Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-03-30

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 30 Martioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Na sas enhmerwsw en taxei gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayth thn ebdomada.

* Ayrio to prwi, stis 10.30, qa dexqei ton Proedro toy Koinoboylioy ths Kinas k. Li Pengk, o opoios episkeptetai th xwra mas. Argotera, sto Megaro Majimoy, ws Proedros toy PASOK, qa proedreysei se kommatikh syskech gia tis Eyrwekloges. To apogeyma qa labei meros sth synedriash ths Boylhs, opoy qa syzhthqei to qema ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio.

* Thn Pempth to prwi, qa dexqei ton episkeptomeno th xwra mas Proedro toy Panama k. Mpagiantares, o opoios synodeyetai apo pente ypoyrgoys, metajy twn opoiwn einai kai o ellhnikhs katagwghs ypoyrgos Paideias k. Qalassinos.

* Thn Paraskeyh to prwi qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Qemata syzhthshs qa einai oi teleytaies ejelijeis sto Kossyfopedio kai h Synodos Koryfhs toy Berolinoy.

Ayta oson afora to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

* Se mia wra apo twra qa synedriasei to Diypoyrgiko Organo ypo thn proedria ths ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn B. Papandreoy, me kyrio qema syzhthshs thn politikh mas kai thn analhch sygkekrimenwn prwtoboyliwn kai metrwn gia thn paroxh ths anqrwpistikhs bohqeias stoys plhttomenoys apo thn krish sto Kossyfopedio prosfyges.

* O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy eixe kai qa exei thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me diaforoys paragontes kai ajiwmatoyxoys jenwn kybernhsewn. Milhse me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Agglias k. Koyk, ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn toy Kanada k. Aj Goyorqi, poy ekdhlwse endiaferon gia symmetoxh ths xwras toy sto programma ths anqrwpistikhs bohqeias sto opoio symmetexoyme. O k. Papandreoy milhse epishs, me thn epikefalhs ths Ypaths Armosteias gia toys prosfyges ka Ogkanta kai thn Italida Epitropo ka Ema Mponino. Qa exei epikoinwnia me ton k. Topoyrkofski, o opoios zhthse na milhsei me ton Ellhna YPEJ. Epishs qa epikoinwnhsei me ton Gallo ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Bentrin, ton k. Ibanof, ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Rwsias kai alloys paragontes.

To apogeyma, stis 5 h wra, o k. Papandreoy qa episkefqei ton arxhgo ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs K. Karamanlh, prokeimenoy na ton enhmerwsei.

Ayrio to prwi, o k. Papandreoy qa synanthqei me toys diatelesantes ypoyrgoys kai yfypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn epi kybernhsewn PASOK kai meqayrio to prwi qa exei analogh synanthsh me toys ypoyrgoys kai yfypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn epi kybernhsewn Neas Dhmokratias. Qema syzhthshs, bebaiws, qa einai h krish sto Kossyfopedio.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

Q. ROYMPANHS: Protiqetai h kybernhsh na prowqhsei h na symfwnhsei gia kapoio chfisma ayrio sth Boylh, me ola ta kommata gia to qema toy Kossyfopedioy;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poia einai h politikh ths kybernhshs sth sygkekrimenh ypoqesh. Gnwrizete poies einai kai oi qeseis twn allwn kommatwn. Pisteyw oti eimaste se mia sygklinoysa kateyqynsh. H syzhthsh ayrio exei enan xarakthra enhmerwtiko. Den antimetwpizoyme ena tetoio endexomeno. H syzhthsh ginetai se epikairh stigmh, prokeimenoy o ellhnikos laos na gnwrizei tis qeseis ths politikhs hgesias ths xwras.

FILHS: Me dedomeno, opws eipate, oti yparxei mia sygklinoysa tash stis qeseis twn ellhnikwn politikwn kommatwn, skeftetai h kybernhsh na sygkalesei syskech twn politikwn arxhgwn, gia na ekfrastei me enan pio symboliko kai oysiastiko tropo ayth h sygklinoysa tash;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh einai sth diaqesh twn politikwn arxhgwn, prokeimenoy na toys enhmerwsei, na akoysei tis apoceis toys kai na ajiopoihsei qeseis kai idees oi opoies einai xrhsimes ayth thn wra. Den antimetwpizoyme endexomeno mias tetoias syskechs. Oi wres einai krisimes kai xreiazetai na analaboyme sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies gia thn paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias. Ayto kanoyme ws kybernhsh kai ws xwra kai sthn kateyqynsh ayth kaqe synergasia einai dekth kai wfelimh.

FILHS: Prokeitai to kybernwn komma kai h kybernhsh -kata mia genikh bebaia ennoia- na enisxysoyn syllalhthria Ellhnwn politwn enantion toy polemoy sth Gioygkoslabia;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti oi polites sthn Ellada einai eleyqeroi na ekfrazoyn tis apoceis toys, na diadhlwnoyn ta aithmata toys kai tis idees toys, kata tropo synnomo kai dhmokratiko. H kybernhsh kai ta politika kommata den gnwrizw na exoyn ekdwsei anakoinwseis eite yposthrijhs, eite aporrichs tetoiwn prwtoboyliwn. Ara, loipon, oi polites kai monon oi polites exoyn to logo. Einai eleyqeroi na kanoyn th dikh toys epilogh.

FILHS: Oi astynomikes dynameis qa exoyn entolh na mhn epiteqoyn stoys polites, an shmera to brady breqoyn ejw apo thn Amerikanikh presbeia;

REPPAS: Oydepote h Astynomia epitiqetai se polites. H Astynomia, apo to rolo poy ths exei anateqei, prepei na perifroyrei th dhmosia asfaleia kai tajh. Ayto qa kanei se kaqe periptwsh. Tipota allo.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h "Apogeymatinh" dhmosieyei shmera thn plhroforia oti me thn eykairia ths symplhrwshs 50 xronwn toy NATO, stis Hnwmenes Politeies exei hdh programmatistei synanthsh Klinton-Shmith-Ntemirel, opoy sto trapezi exoyn etoimo oi Hnwmenes Politeies sxedio epilyshs Kypriakoy kai ellhnotoyrkikwn diaforwn. Exete tetoia plhroforia;

REPPAS: Kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. O Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei tis Hnwmenes Politeies sto plaisio ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO. H Synodos qa diejaxqei sthn Oyasigkton. O Prwqypoyrgos, pragmati, symfwna me to programma toy, qa episkefqei prin th Nea Yorkh, opoy qa labei meros se seira ekdhlwsewn me omogeneis alla kai alloys paragontes ths dhmosias zwhs twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn. Qa labei meros sthn ekqesh poy qa ginei me thn eykairia twn egkainiwn mias neas pterygas sto megalo mhtropolitiko moyseio ths Neas Yorkhs, opoy qa ekfwnhsei logo. Ola ayta, omws, qa sas anakoinwqoyn tis epomenes hmeres me kaqe leptomereia. To programma, loipon, toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Nea Yorkh den exei sxesh me politikes synergasies h prwtoboylies aytoy toy eidoys.

BITALHS: Sto plaisio ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO den yparxoyn skeceis h programmatismenes synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me hgetes allwn kratwn;

REPPAS: Den exei diatypwqei, den exei ekfrastei mia tetoia skech. Den problepetai sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy kapoia tetoia synanthsh. Epanalambanw oti se xwroys, opoy symmetexoyn oi hgetes diaforwn xwrwn, pantote dinetai h dynatothta na antallassontai xairetismoi. Ayto, omws, einai poly diaforetiko apo to na mila kapoios gia mia programmatismenh synanthsh, gia mia syskech, gia mia synergasia, h opoia einai etsi meqodeymenh, wste na odhghsei se syzhthsh kai se sygkekrimena apotelesmata. Kamia sxesh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa htan antiqeth h Ellada se mia tetoia synanthsh;

REPPAS: Den antimetwpizoyme tetoio qema.

ALEJAKH: Prohgoymenws eipate oti "einai mia wra krisimh", anaferomenos stis ejelijeis sth Gioygkoslabia, alla apo thn allh pleyra den katanow giati h kybernhsh, afoy toso krisimh h wra kai afoy yparxoyn genikotera problhmata, kanei aytes tis memonwmenes syskeceis o k. Papandreoy me toys prwhn ypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn ths N. D. kai toy PASOK kai alles syskeceis memonwmenes kai den kanei mia syskech twn politikwn arxhgwn etsi wste na yparxei mia koinh grammh; Giati kai sth Boylh, opws eipate oti qa akoystoyn oi qeseis twn kommatwn, den shmainei oti qa lhfqoyn apofaseis sth Boylh.

REPPAS: H kybernhsh kanei para polla. Gnwrizete oti oi kinhseis ths kybernhshs einai, qa elega, plhqwrikes kai einai kai poly shmantikes, giati symballoyn apofasistika sthn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ta opoia dhmioyrghqhkan logw ths krishs poy jespase sto Kossyfopedio. Me ayth thn ennoia, h Ellada mporei na pei kaneis oti exei enan prwtagwnistiko, enan idiaitero rolo sthn perioxh. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, oi politikoi arxhgoi ana pasa stigmh qa exoyn sth diaqesh toys ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, paragontes ths kybernhshs, prokeimenoy na enhmerwqoyn, prokeimenoy kai oi idioi na diatypwsoyn tis apoceis toys pros thn kybernhsh, pragma to opoio enapokeitai, se megalo baqmo, se dikh toys prwtoboylia. Den qewroyme oti ayta ta opoia exoyme kanei einai liga, opws den qewroyme oti einai arketa. Panta yparxei ena periqwrio na kanoyme kati pio xrhsimo, kati perissotero. Alla ayta poy exoyme kanei, pisteyw oti kalyptoyn to qema apolytws.

ALEJAKH: To deytero to opoio qa hqela na rwthsw einai to ejhs: Mas eipate oti sto plaisio ths Synodoy stis HPA, endexomenws na yparjoyn xairetismoi kai den apokleietai fysika na yparjei xairetismos kai me ton k. Ntemirel. Omws, prin apo ligo kairo yphrxe mia epistolh toy k. Ntemirel pros ton Amerikano Proedro k. Klinton, sthn opoia metajy allwn elege to poso kalh synergasia qa mporoyse na exei me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo. Ola ayta, den dinoyn thn aisqhsh oti dromologeitai mia katastash;

REPPAS: Den eimai armodios na milhsw gia th synergasia kai thn epikoinwnia poy exoyn oi hgetes allwn xwrwn metajy toys. Milw ek meroys ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Sas lew, loipon, oti metajy ths kybernhshs ths Elladas kai twn kybernhsewn twn HPA kai ths Toyrkias den yparxei opoiadhpote epikoinwnia, h opoia na mporei, apo kapoioys, na qewrhqei, na xarakthristei ws proqalamos h eisagwgh se mia tetoia synergasia, se mia tetoia syskech, se mia tetoia synanthsh.

MIXAHL: Ligo prin jespasoyn oi bombardismoi sth Gioygkoslabia o k. Papandreoy eixe mia syntomh episkech, sxedon mesa se miamish hmera phge se oles tis balkanikes prwteyoyses kai egine h perifhmh synanthsh toy Boykoyrestioy. Mhpws, loipon, mporoyse na yparjei thn teleytaia stigmh mia prospaqeia na sygkrathqei h ejelijh h opoia fainotan ston orizonta. Giati den paei twra pali;

REPPAS: Den antilambanomai thn erwthsh sas.

MIXAHL: Einai safhs h erwthsh moy. Tote phge. Twra, giati den paei; O Ibanof phge shmera epishma me ton k. Primakof. Giati na mhn paei o k. Papandreoy ayrio;

REPPAS: Ma, h episkech eixe enan poly sygkekrimeno stoxo. O stoxos aytos epiteyxqhke. Me th diaskech poy egine sto Boykoyresti ekdoqhke to koino anakoinwqen, sto opoio ekfrazontai oi qeseis twn xwrwn ths Balkanikhs. Qeseis gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs poy mas briskoyn oloys symfwnoys kai pisteyw oti kai shmera einai epikaires kai mporei oi qeseis aytes, na xrhsimopoihqoyn, wste na breqei lysh sto problhma poy exei dhmioyrghqei. Twra eimaste se mia allh fash. Oi ejelijeis poy en tw metajy exoyn trejei, exoyn dhmioyrghsei nea dedomena. O k. Papandreoy askei ta kaqhkonta toy antimetwpizontas tis nees synqhkes. Kai pisteyw oti oi prwtoboylies poy exei analabei, sto plaisio ths kybernhtikhs politikhs, einai poly xrhsimes, poly shmantikes.

MIXAHL: Dhladh, k. Ypoyrge, den yparxei stoxos, twra, na paei;

REPPAS: Ma, ola ayta, k. Mixahl, antilambaneste oti ejetazontai, epilegontai kai apofasizontai, analogws twn dedomenwn. Aythn thn wra poy syzhtoyme, den qewroyme oti yparxoyn proypoqeseis gia tetoies episkeceis, oi opoies qa synodeyontai apo ena sygkekrimeno, xeiropiasto, xrhsimo kai wfelimo apotelesma. Mporei, bebaiws, oi synqhkes na epitrecoyn na ginei kati tetoio h kai na epibaloyn, poly perissotero, na ginei kati tetoio, isws kai tis epomenes hmeres. Einai kati, omws, to opoio den fainetai ayth th stigmh. Emeis, eimaste parontes stis ejelijeis, epiqymoyme na exoyme parembash sta pragmata, prokeimenoy na anadeijoyme to shmantiko rolo poy diadramatizoyme sthn perioxh. Kai yp` ayto to prisma, yperaspizomenoi kai perifroyroyntes panta ta eqnika symferonta, qa synexisoyme na analambanoyme tis prwtoboylies mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh dexetai pieseis apo thn amerikanikh kybernhsh gia na stamathsei thn politikh ths, na mhn yperaspizetai, estw kai ligo, ton Milosebits;

REPPAS: Den dexetai kamia piesh h ellhnikh kybernhsh. H ellhnikh kybernhsh stis epikoinwnies poy exei, toso me thn kybernhsh twn HPA, mesw twn ekproswpwn ths, bebaiws, oso kai me ekproswpoys allwn kybernhsewn, exei katasthsei safh th qesh ths. Antapokrinetai stis ypoxrewseis poy exei ws xwra-melos toy NATO. Apo thn allh, logw ths idiaiterhs sxeshs me thn perioxh -afoy einai h monh xwra- melos toy NATO s` ayth thn perioxh- exei diatypwsei mia qesh, h opoia pisteyoyme oti olo kai perissotero briskei aphxhsh, pragma to opoio deixnei thn orqothta ths politikhs poy exoyme xarajei kai akoloyqoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se ti ofeilontai, tote, oi syxnes episkeceis toy Mperns sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Syxnes epafes kai epikoinwnies exoyn oi ekproswpoi ths kybernhshs twn HPA me ekproswpoys twn kybernhsewn se olh thn Eyrwph. Pisteyw oti h ektakth katastash poy exei dhmioyrghqei, epiballei thn taktikh epikoinwnia, h opoia einai taktikh, oxi mono metajy ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai toy presbh twn HPA, alla einai taktikh h epikoinwnia ths kybernhshs mas kai me toys ekproswpoys allwn kybernhsewn. Milhsa sthn arxh gia tis thlefwnikes epikoinwnies poy eixe o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn me synadelfoys toy allwn xwrwn h allwn organismwn kai forewn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw milhsa sygkekrimena gia edw. Gia tis tesseris episkeceis toy k. Mperns sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti oi episkeceis aytes oi opoies einai liges ton ariqmo, einai toses oses xreiazetai, wste oi dyo kybernhseis na syzhtoyn ta qemata poy exoyn prokycei, meta thn krish sto Kossyfopedio.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, se poia qesh anafereste otan lete oti olo kai pio poly briskei edafos...

REPPAS: Ston problhmatismo poy blepw na ekfrazetai apo hgetes allwn kybernhsewn allwn xwrwn gia thn anagkh na anazhthqei politikh lysh sto problhma poy exei dhmioyrghqei h na enisxyqoyn oi prwtoboylies oi opoies kinoyntai s' ayth thn kateyqynsh.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Kai epishs qa hqela, an mporeite na mas kanete ena geniko sxolio gia th synanthsh Primakof - Milosebits.

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti h synanthsh ayth ginetai se mia krisimh stigmh. Apo ta apotelesmata ta opoia, elpizoyme, na prokycoyn, isws qa exoyme thn afethria gia thn antimetwpish toy problhmatos me eirhnika kai politika mesa. Elpizoyme h Dieqnhs Koinothta h opoia parakoloyqei ayth thn wra to drama to opoio ektylissetai sto Kossyfopedio, me anakoyfish na akoysei ta apotelesmata ayths ths synanthshs, efoson bebaiws prokycoyn tetoia apotelesmata. Einai kati to opoio ayth thn wra den mporei na to ektimhsei kaneis apolytws, alla einai dikaiologhmeno na ekfrasoyme ayth thn elpida, giati pisteyw oti ayth h koinh agwnia mas diakatexei oloys.

FILHS: Xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos, milwntas sthn Kentrikh Epitroph toy PASOK afhse na ennohqei oti yparxoyn foboi, oi prosfyges na mhn parameinoyn se omores xwres alla na erqoyn kai sthn Ellada. Qa hqela na mas peite poia einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, an dexetai na filojenhsoyme prosfyges kai poia metra exoyme labei.

REPPAS: Apanthsa se sxetikes erwthseis, xqes, me leptomereies kai sas parapempw s' aytes tis apanthseis. Mporw na epanalabw, omws, th qesh mas synoptika, legontas ta ejhs: Yparxei mia basikh arxh, enas kanonas, oti oi prosfyges prepei na bohqoyntai wste na paramenoyn konta stis esties toys. H Ellada den exei synora me to Kossyfopedio kai th Gioygkoslabia. H Ellada synoreyei me thn Albania kai to kratos twn Skopiwn. H politikh mas, sto sygkekrimeno tomea paroxhs anqrwpistikhs bohqeias gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn, logw ths prosfygikhs kinhtikothtas, shmainei oikonomikh kai ylikh yposthrijh pros thn Albania kai ta Skopia, kyriws, wste na mporesoyn oi xwres aytes na frontisoyn kai na periqalcoyn toys prosfyges, gia na mh xreiastei oi prosfyges na metakinhqoyn notiotera, pros thn Ellada.

H Ellada froyrei ta synora ths. Einai adianohto na qewrei kapoios oti ta synora ths Elladas einai anoikta kai oti eleyqera prosferontai pros diabash. Emeis exoyme bebaiws labei metra gia na antimetwpisoyme to endexomeno mias pieshs enos kymatos prosfygwn. Kati tetoio den exei ekdhlwqei mexri twra kai elpizoyme, logw ths egkairhs prwtoboylias poy analabame na prosferoyme bohqeia sta geitonika krath, oti den qa ekdhlwqei kai sth synexeia. Oi prosfyges, dhladh, qa parameinoyn stis geitonikes xwres, sxetika konta stis esties toys, epeidh ekei kai me th dikh mas symbolh kai bohqeia, opws kai allwn xwrwn kai Organismwn qa exoyn ejasfalisei ajioprepeis synqhkes gia na perasoyn ayth thn tragikh periodo, poy eyxomai na einai poly syntomh kai grhgora na epistrecoyn stis esties toys oloi.

FILHS: Poio einai to programma ths periodeias toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy sta Balkania. Prokeitai na fygei gia to Boykoyresti, to Beligradi, th Sofia.

REPPAS: Den eimai ayth thn wra etoimos, giati den exei oloklhrwqei, na sas dwsw me plhrh leptomereia to programma toy. Mporw na to kanw ayrio to prwi h en pash periptwsei apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas exete th dynatothta na gnwrizete me leptomereies to programma twn episkecewn toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To NATO zhthse apo thn Ellada na perasoyn 80.000 stratiwtes apo Qessalonikh pros Skopia;

REPPAS: Ogdonta xiliades stratiwtes! Einai enas ariqmos o opoios oyte se mia megalh fantasia den mporei na xwresei. Oxi, den yparxei tetoio qema. Kai den nomizw oti einai stis proqeseis toy NATO na xrhsimopoihsei ayto ton ariqmo stratiwtwn, diaforwn baqmidwn. O ariqmos poy problepetai stoys arxikoys sxediasmoys einai ligo megalyteros twn 10.000. Exoyme, peripoy, eggijei to orio ayto. Gnwrizete poia einai h apostolh kai o rolos twn dynamewn aytwn. Paramenei o idios, doqentos oti oi apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei, sto plaisio twn organwn toy NATO, miloyn gia th xrhsimopoihsh xersaiwn dynamewn mono se eirhneytikh apostolh. Allwste, opws eipa, o ejoplismos poy exoyn den einai tetoios poy na toys epitrepei, na toys dinei th dynatothta na laboyn meros se stratiwtikes epixeirhseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, kyrie Ypoyrge, kalyfqhke o ariqmos. Den prokeitai na perasoyn alloi me ayta poy mas lete.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti eimaste konta sthn orofh. Den eipa oti den prokeitai na perasoyn alloi. Oi ejelijeis den mporei na problefqoyn, apolytws, alla sas eipa ti proeblepe o arxikos sxediasmos kai poios einai peripoy o ariqmos twn stratiwtwn poy exoyn dielqei, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn ta synafh qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, otan kalyfqei aytos o ariqmos, den qa pane alloi;

REPPAS: An yparjei allh apofash toy NATO, einai kati to opoio ayth thn wra kaneis den gnwrizei, oyte egw bebaiws. Mporei na allajoyn ta dedomena. Emeis miloyme me bash ta shmerina dedomena. Ta dedomena, loipon, einai ayta sta opoia anaferqhka me leptomereies.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me th fantasia th dikh sas, posoi mporoyn na perasoyn;

REPPAS: Egw, kyrie Stamatopoyle, den epitrepetai na exw oyte mikrh fantasia. Epiballetai na mhn exw fantasia. Egw prepei na eimai apolytws prosgeiwmenos kai realisths.

Q. ROYMPANHS: H Ellada einai symfwnh sthn ayjhsh twn stratiwtikwn dynamewn, se periptwsh poy teqei tetoio qema;

REPPAS: Den exei teqei tetoio qema. Den exei apasxolhsei tetoio qema oyte thn Ellada, oyte alloi exoyn qesei sthn Ellada tetoio qema.

Q. ROYMPANHS: Thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, qelw na rwthsw, thn apasxolei tetoio qema;

REPPAS: Oxi, den mas apasxolei tetoio qema. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei diatypwsei th qesh ths, h opoia, opws gnwrizete, dinei megalo baros sthn prospaqeia gia thn ejeyresh politikhs lyshs, estw kai ayth thn krisimh stigmh. Ara den antimetwpizoyme qema xrhsimopoihshs xersaiwn dynamewn.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Anejarthta gia th qesh arxhs oti oi bombardismoi den feroyn apotelesma, alla mono h politikh diaboyleysh, apo tis plhrofories poy exei h Ellada ws symmaxos, mporeite na mas peite oi mexri stigmhs bombardismoi ti apotelesmatikothta eixan, oson afora epixeirhsiakes stoxeyseis;

REPPAS: Mh me kaleite na metablhqw se ajiologhth twn apotelesmatwn twn stratiwtikwn epixeirhsewn poy exoyn ginei mexri twra. Mporw na pw genika omws, kai nomizw oti aphxw th qesh olwn twn politwn toy planhth, oti oydepote o polemos lynei problhmata. Antiqetws, dhmioyrgei perissotera.

Sas eyxaristw.

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