Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-03-05

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 5 Martioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia to xqesinobradyno diabhma twn Amerikanwn pros thn Ellada kai thn Toyrkia na "kaqisoyn hsyxa";

REPPAS: Pragmati, xqes to apogeyma, o ekproswpos ths amerikanikhs presbeias k. Snel, episkefqhke to Geniko Grammatea toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn k. Apostolidh. Antistoixh kinhsh egine apo thn pleyra twn HPA kai sthn prwteyoysa ths Toyrkias, thn Agkyra. Skopos ayths ths episkechs htan h metafora ths qeshs twn HPA pros thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, na parameinoyn se xamhlo epipedo oi tonoi antiparaqeshs, poy einai se ejelijh metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias, prokeimenoy na symbaloyme etsi sthn epanafora enos klimatos hremias sthn perioxh. Einai mia qesh twn HPA, thn opoia metefere o ekproswpos toys. Pisteyoyme oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh sthn prajh exei deijei pws kanei ejwterikh politikh arxwn se oloys toys tomeis, alla kai stis dimereis sxeseis me thn Toyrkia. H Ellada epiqymei oi sxeseis aytes na symbaloyn sth dhmioyrgia enos klimatos eirhnhs, asfaleias kai staqerothtas sthn perioxh. H Ellada den exei probei se tetoies energeies, gia tis opoies mporei kapoios na thn kathgorhsei oti symballei sth dhmioyrgia proypoqesewn apostaqeropoihshs sthn perioxh. Antiqetws. Pisteyoyme oti h Toyrkia, apo th dikh ths pleyra, qa kanei to idio, prokeimenoy na yparxei hremia, thn epomenh periodo, sthn perioxh kai na apoklimakwqei h entash stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh h Ellada, opws eipate, den exei probei se proklhseis, giati apeyqynontai kai se emas;

REPPAS: Giati ayth einai h apoch twn HPA, poy qewroyn oti, oi dyo xwres, poy ayth thn periodo exoyn mia ojymenh sxesh, qa prepei na symbaloyn, wste na jeperastei ayth h ojythta stis sxeseis toys. Emeis qa synexisoyme thn politikh poy akoloyqoyme, giati pisteyoyme oti h politikh ayth einai h endedeigmenh, gia na diasfalisoyme toys oroys kai tis proypoqeseis gia thn hremia sthn perioxh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai ti apanthsame se ayton ton kyrio; REPPAS: H qesh poy ekfrazw, ayth thn wra, martyra poso swsth einai h politikh poy akoloyqoyme. Einai mia politikh, h opoia aposkopei kai sthn prajh symballei sth dhmioyrgia synqhkwn eirhnhs kai hremias sthn perioxh.

ALEJAKH: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ektos apo aytes tis parembaseis twn Amerikanwn poy synistoyn cyxraimia, exei h kybernhsh kapoies alles plhrofories oti mporei na dhmioyrghqei epeisodio to epomeno diasthma. Kai to lew ayto, giati einai entones oi fhmes apo polla stelexh, ta opoia lene kati tetoio. Kai to deytero, to opoio qelw na sas rwthsw einai to ejhs: Mhpws, sto plaisio ths ejomalynshs twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn, skeftomaste na aroyme to beto gia th xrhmatodothsh ths Toyrkias;

REPPAS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, gnwrizete poies einai oi proypoqeseis poy exoyme qesei, edw kai poly kairo, gia thn apemplokh toy xrhmatodotikoy kanonismoy.

Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, prepei na pw oti h ejomalynsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn mporei na epiteyxqei, an h Toyrkia epideijei mia allh symperifora. An me th stash ths empraktws symballei sth beltiwsh twn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn. Giati, mexri twra, h stash ths einai epiqetikh kai proklhtikh enantion ths Elladas.

Gia to fhmologoymeno "epeisodio", poy rwtate eimai kathgorhmatikos se ayto. To exoyme pei kai allh fora, to lew kai twra. Den exoyme sygkekrimenes plhrofories oti h Toyrkia proetoimazei kapoia stratiwtikh drash se baros ths xwras mas. Den yparxei opoiadhpote tetoia plhroforia. Ayto to opoio dhmioyrgei ena klima entashs stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, einai oi epanalambanomenes dhlwseis twn Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn oi opoies, bebaiws, apoteloyn mia proklhsh, synistoyn mia apeilh. Emeis eimaste, opws se kaqe analogh periptwsh, etoimoi na antimetwpisoyme kaqe endexomeno.

MOYRTZHS: Me symbash poy epikyrwse h albanikh Boylh, ta Tirana edwsan to dikaiwma sthn Toyrkia na limenizei ta polemika ths ploia sthn Aylwna, alla kai na xrhsimopoiei thn omwnymh naytikh bash poy symfwna me plhrofories th misqwse me pente ekatommyria dolaria. Qelw na rwthsw an isxyei kat` arxhn ayto, an eixate enhmerwqei kai poia einai h antidrash sas.

REPPAS: Ereynoyme ayto to qema. Prokeitai gia mia dimerh symfwnia dyo eleyqerwn kratwn. Den pisteyoyme oti h Albania, efoson proxwrhse se mia tetoia symfwnia, to ekane gia na strafei enantion ths Elladas. Kai pisteyoyme oti h xrhsimopoihsh ayths ths bashs qa ginei me tetoio tropo, wste na mhn apotelesei ormhthrio gia epiqetikes energeies enantion ths Elladas.

MOYRTZHS: Exete tetoies diabebaiwseis;

REPPAS: Epanalambanw oti to qema ayto, stis leptomereies toy, ereynatai akomh. Sas eipa poia einai h genikh qesh mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn shmera plhrofories an egine aerofwtografhsh sthn Krhth, nai h oxi;

REPPAS: Den yparxei opoiadhpote plhroforia, den eixame kapoio peristatiko.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi, lew gia to prohgoymeno peristatiko. Giati, xqes, jerate-den jerate. Twra, poy proxwrhsan kapws ta stoixeia, mhpws yparxei kati;

REPPAS: Ayto einai kati poy mporeis na to ektimhseis, na to ypoqeseis, kaneis tis analyseis soy kai bgazeis ta symperasmata soy. Den gnwrizeis an exoyn ginei oi fwtografhseis h oxi. Gnwrizeis omws oti yphrjan aeroplana ta opoia eixan ton katallhlo ejoplismo. Apo kei kai pera einai qema ektimhsewn. Gia na xrhsimopoihqoyn ayta ta aeroplana, mporeis basima na to ypoqeseis kai ayto. Alla, epanalambanw, einai kati to opoio apasxolei tis armodies yphresies kai ta qemata ayta gnwrizete oti apaitoyn ena sxetiko xrono meleths, prokeimenoy na ejaxqoyn ta asfalh symperasmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayth thn perioxh poy fwtografisan h oxi, einai ekei poy qa topoqethqoyn oi S-300;

REPPAS: Einai mia perioxh ths Krhths. Gnwrizete oti exoyme epilejei thn Anatolikh Krhth gia na topoqethqoyn oi pyrayloi S-300.

MIXAHL: Isxyei ayth h apofash, h epilogh;

REPPAS: Peri poioy qematos omileite;

MIXAHL: Lete oti "epilejame thn perioxh ths Krhths". Kai lew, loipon, egw: meta kai to gegonos kai to symban ayto, paramenei h arxikh epilogh;

REPPAS: Twra, isxyei perissotero. To eipe allwste o Prwqypoyrgos sthn omilia toy sth Boylh.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti "twra isxyei perissotero". Gia ejhgeiste to ligo, ayto.

REPPAS: H apanthsh poy dinw syndeetai me thn erwthsh poy kanate. Otan lete meta apo ayto poy ekanan oi Toyrkoi, an isxyei ayto...

MIXAHL: Logiko den einai ayto kyrie Ypoyrge; Syggnwmh.

REPPAS: Oxi, den einai kaqoloy logikh h erwthsh sas. Giati exoyme pei me kathgorhmatiko tropo, to epanelabe kai o Prwqypoyrgos shmera, oti ayth einai h oristikh epilogh kai qa ginei ekei h egkatastash toy pyraylikoy systhmatos. Otan syndeete ayto me th xqesinh drash twn toyrkikwn aeroplanwn sthn eyryterh perioxh, antilambaneste oti h apanthsh poy qa parete, einai tetoia apanthsh.

MIXAHL: Ma, den einai anagkh na syndeetai. Th stigmh poy h Toyrkia...

REPPAS: Eseis to syndesate, lew.

MIXAHL: Ma, ena lepto kyrie Ypoyrge. Nomizw oti edw pera h erwthsh htan safhs kai eixe safes ypobaqro, alla den hqela na epektaqw perissotero gia na mh nomizete oti edina megalyterh diastash. Dhladh, h Toyrkia eite fwtografise eite den fwtografise, ekane, an qelete, to ti nomizei ayth oti ekane. Emeis, loipon, shmera exontas ypoch to ti qelei h Toyrkia na kanei, synexizoyme s' ayth thn kateyqynsh; Moy apanthsate nai. Kai sas lew egw, giati twra akomh perissotero; Ayto prospaqw na katalabw.

REPPAS: Kyrie Mixahl, otan rwthsate, rwthsate syndeontas thn egkatastash twn S-300 sthn Krhth me to xqesino peristatiko. H qesh ths Toyrkias exei ekdhlwqei edw kai arketo kairo. Kai h apanthsh poy exei doqei apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, exei doqei edw kai arketo kairo kai einai safhs: Oti h egkatastash qa ginei sthn Krhth. Ara to qema exei lhjei. Eseis to epanaferete, syndyazontas th xqesinh pthsh twn toyrkikwn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn, me thn epilogh mas gia thn egkatastash twn pyraylwn. Giati to kanete ayto; Qewreite oti mporei aytos na einai logos gia na allajoyme thn epilogh mas; Profanws ayto qewreite, gia na kanete ayth thn erwthsh.

MIXAHL: To ti profanws qewrw, einai diko moy qema.

REPPAS: Sas parakalw, ke Mixahl, einai diko sas qema, alla den qa elegxete tis apanthseis poy dinw. Giati dinw apanthseis kai jerw poly kala giati tis dinw m' ayton ton tropo poy tis dinw.

MIXAHL: Ofeilw na tis katagracw kai na tis krinw.

REPPAS: Na tis katagracete kai na tis krinete.

MIXAHL: Ayto lew. Den tis elegxw, den syzhtaw na parw alles apanthseis.

REPPAS: Sthn prwth erwthsh poy kanate, syndesate thn egkatastash toy pyraylikoy systhmatos me th xqesinh pthsh twn toyrkikwn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn, oxi me th qesh ths Toyrkias genika. H qesh ths Toyrkias exei ekdhlwqei edw kai kairo. Kai h apanthsh apo thn Ellada, sth qesh ayth, exei doqei edw kai kairo.

Sas eyxaristw.
Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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