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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 1 Martioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalo mhna.

Qa moy epitrecete na kanw eisagwgikws ena sxolio epta shmeiwn:

* Prwton, o Ampntoylax Otsalan efyge apo th Syria, efyge apo th Rwsia, efyge apo thn Italia opoy eixe zhthsei politiko asylo. Giati; Kai kathgoreitai h Ellada, h xwra poy exei prwtostathsei sth symparastash pros ton koyrdiko lao. Kathgoreitai h politikh hgesia ths xwras mas, poy exei analabei kai synexizei na analambanei prwtoboylies gia thn asfalh metafora twn triwn gynaikwn, gia thn anadeijh toy koyrdikoy qematos, me epistoles, me synennohseis sto plaisio ths E. E. Kathgoreitai h Ellada, th stigmh malista poy h politikh poy akoloyqoyme, politikh arxwn sto qema ayto, exei kostos. H xwra mas ginetai dekths diabhmatwn kai epikrisewn.

* Deyteron, enoxopoieitai to tajidi toy tote ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn sthn Kenya, ena tajidi poy htan apo poly kairo programmatismeno sto plaisio twn dimerwn sxesewn. Allwste, eginan episkeceis kai se alles geitonikes xwres ths Afrikanikhs Hpeiroy. Ena tajidi poy egine otan den yphrxe yponoia kan gia thn eleysh toy Otsalan sthn Ellada. H ellhnikh kybernhsh apo palia eixe apoqarrynei ton Ampntoylax Otsalan na erqei sthn Ellada. Den ton kalese h ellhnikh kybernhsh sthn Ellada. Den ton efere h ellhnikh kybernhsh sth xwra mas. Den mporei, loipon, kaneis, oyte o pleon kakopistos, na kathgorei thn kybernhsh oti sxediaze me kapoio tropo thn prowqhsh toy sthn Kenya. To erwthma, giati efyge o Ampntoylax Otsalan apo thn Italia, paramenei anapanthto. Opws to erwthma, giati kapoioi eferan ton Otsalan sthn Ellada, kontra sthn epishmh politikh ths xwras, paramenei epishs anapanthto.

* Triton, giati h fortish kai h sygkinhsh gia ton agwna toy koyrdikoy laoy gia ta symferonta toy koyrdikoy laoy, prepei kapoioys na toys odhgei sto na sykofantoyn th xwra mas kai thn politikh hgesia; Giati h symparastash mas ston agwna toy koyrdikoy laoy gia thn anagnwrish twn dikaiwmatwn toy, payei apo kapoioys na syndeetai me ta symferonta toy ellhnikoy laoy, me ta symferonta ths xwras mas poy prepei na ginoyn epishs sebasta; To symferon ths xwras mas ypagoreyei th diasfalish ths eirhnhs, ths staqerothtas kai ths koinwnikhs proodoy. Den einai pros to symferon toy koyrdikoy laoy kai einai antiqeto sta symferonta toy ellhnikoy laoy, to na antimetwpizetai to koyrdiko zhthma ws qema ellhnotoyrkikhs dienejhs.

* Tetarton, giati ginetai prospaqeia apo kapoioys na anadeixqoyn se ryqmistes twn eswterikwn politikwn ejelijewn sthn Ellada, ypokaqistwntas etsi ton kyriarxo ellhniko lao; H symporeysh kapoiwn Koyrdwn me kykloys poy exoyn gnwsto prosanatolismo, fanerwnei mia diaqesh na kaqorisoyn kai na ephreasoyn tis eswterikes ejelijeis. Prepei na gnwrizoyn oloi, oti ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn Kybernhsh s' ayth th xwra, toys eklegei o ellhnikos laos kai mono. Se kanenan allo den peftei logos.

* Pempton, giati ayth thn wra agnooyntai oi propagandistikoi kai sykofantikoi isxyrismoi ths Toyrkias enantion ths Elladas; Thn wra poy h kybernhsh antimetwpizei me cyxraimia, synesh kai apofasistikothta thn prospaqeia ths Toyrkias na pyrodothsei me entash tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, giati oi alloi siwpoyn; Ayth thn wra antilambanontai ws antipalo toys thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, enantion ths opoias strefontai;

* Ekton, ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs apodeiknyontai katwtera twn peristasewn. Se mia krisimh stigmh zhtoyn allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy kai ekloges h paraithsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs. Idiaiterws h N. D., to komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs yioqetei oysiastika tis anypostates kathgories ekproswpwn toy R. K. K. Xarassei thn politikh ths me bash ta legomena kapoiwn, mono kai mono gia na strafei enantion toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths Kybernhshs. An ayto to rolo exei epilejei h Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh, tote ginetai epizhmia gia thn asfalh prooptikh ths xwras.

* Ebdomo, h Kybernhsh qa eggyhqei thn poreia ths Elladas pros toys megaloys eqnikoys kai koinwnikoys stoxoys. Qa petyxoyme, para ta empodia kai tis yponomeyseis, na diasfalisoyme thn prooptikh kai to mellon toy ellhnikoy laoy kai ths Elladas.

Ayto einai to eisagwgiko sxolio poy hqela na kanw.

Gnwrizete oti o Prwqypoyrgos, epikefalhs kommatikhs antiproswpeias brisketai aytes tis hmeres sthn Italia, sto Milano, opoy symmetexei stis ergasies toy Synedrioy toy Eyrwpaikoy Sosialistikoy Kommatos. Emeis eimaste edw, sto plaisio ths kaqhmerinhs syzhthshs mas. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

LEONTOPOYLOS: To Sabbato, sto arxiko sxolio poy kanate gia thn ka Ntilan, eixate milhsei gia kapoio endexomeno rolo poy mporei na diadramatizei kai eixate pei oti prepei na diereynhqei aytos o rolos. Mhpws exete, ws kybernhsh, kapoia sygkekrimenh ektimhsh gia ta kinhtra, kapoia endexomenh progeysh; Yparxei kapoia ektimhsh, dhladh, giati doqhke ayth thn wra h synenteyjh, poy opws lete kai sto eisagwgiko sas sxolio, sykofantoymeqa apo thn Toyrkia klp;

REPPAS: Milhsame gia thn anagkh na dieykrinistei o rolos ths ka Kilits. Kai ayto, giati meiname ekplhktoi apo ton tropo me ton opoio h ekproswpos toy RKK paroysiase th dikh ths ekdoxh gia ta istorika gegonota. Oysiastikws, ejapelyse mia epiqesh, ena libelo enantion toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ths kybernhshs kai ths Elladas, xwris na tekmhriwsei, malista, ayth thn adikh epiqesh ths. Einai qema na apanthsei h idia h opoioi gnwrizoyn gia toys logoys kai ta kinhtra ayths ths stashs poy epeleje th sygkekrimenh stigmh. Ta erwthmata poy qesame tote, epanalabame xqes, kai epanaferw kai shmera, metajy twn allwn pollwn erwthmatwn, pisteyoyme oti paramenoyn anapanthta. Einai qema to opoio oson afora thn istoria ths ypoqeshs qa ereynhqei, toso sto plaisio ths eisaggelikhs ereynas, oso kai sto plaisio leitoyrgias ths ypo systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs sth Boylh.

Oson afora th stash proswpwn kai forewn, to logo exei h Dikaiosynh, an oi leitoyrgoi ths krinoyn oti yparxei gi' aytoys antikeimeno, me to opoio prepei na asxolhqoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kathgorhsate ola ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs kai th N. D. perissotero, oti zhtoyn ekloges kai paraithsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai oti yioqetoyn kathgories ths ekproswpoy toy RKK. Ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs ebalan toys ekproswpoys toy RKK na kanoyn aytes tis dhlwseis kai thn ka Ntilan ayth th synenteyjh;

REPPAS: Asfalws oxi. Ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs kai idiaiterws o k. Karamanlhs, me poly aneyqyno tropo, yioqethsan akrita kai astoxa -se oysiastiko epipedo milw pleon- tis asthriktes kai sykofantikes aytes kathgories, epeidh qewrhsan oti eixan etsi mia eykairia na plhjoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn Kybernhsh, enw qa mporoysan afenos na zhthsoyn perissoteres plhrofories, antapokrinomenoi se sxetikh prosklhsh poy exei apeyqynei o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn edw kai arketes hmeres kai afeteroy na diaxwrisoyn ta qemata poy exoyn sxesh me thn kommatikh kai politikh antiparaqesh sthn Ellada, apo ta qemata ta opoia sxetizontai me thn koinh stash toy ellhnikoy laoy kai ths xwras mas apenanti se tetoioy eidoys prosboles, oi opoies kaqe allo para einai dikaiologhmenes, poly perissotero malista poy den periexoyn oyte ena chgma tekmhriwn h stoixeiwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den htan ypoxrewmenh molis jespase h istoria na enhmerwsei amesws ta kommata; Giati to kanei katopin eorths;

REPPAS: Exoyn klhqei ta kommata apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Twra...

REPPAS: Oxi twra. Edw kai arketes hmeres. Apo thn prwth hmera poy anelabe kaqhkonta o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, o k. Papandreoy. Gnwrizete oti ayto egine dyo-treis hmeres meta, afotoy eixame ayth th dysmenh ejelijh sthn ypoqesh Otsalan. Ara, loipon, apo tis prwtes hmeres klhqhkan ta kommata na enhmerwqoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi, ayto to qema einai polles hmeres. Den einai treis-tesseris hmeres.

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, den qymaste kala...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw poly kala qymamai. Giati den enhmerwsate otan eixate edw ton Otsalan; Giati den enhmerwsate ta kommata oti ton exete edw;

REPPAS: O dromos ths enhmerwshs htan anoixtos, alla ta kommata den antapokriqhkan. Omws, anejarthta apo ayto, den pisteyw oti xreiazetai h kybernhsh na zhthsei apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs kai th N.D. na topoqethqoyn epiteloys apenanti sto mparaz twn propagandistikwn sykofantikwn isxyrismwn enantion ths Elladas, apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas lew, giati den toys enhmerwnate tote;

REPPAS: Qa me afhsete na sas apanthsw; Mh biazeste. Giati, ayth th stigmh poy einai krisimh, pragmatika einai krisimh stigmh gia th xwra, ta kommata epididontai kai ejantloyntai se mia kritikh me kathgories kata ths kybernhshs, xwris na mpoyn ston kopo gia to qema ayto na diereynhsoyn, na plhroforhqoyn kai na milhsoyn eyrytera me cyxraimia, ypodeiknyontas ena dromo o opoios qa einai xrhsimos dromos gia th xwra kai ton ellhniko lao. Ejantloyntai mono se ena libelo kata ths kybernhshs kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Ayto, pisteyw, apodeiknyei pws pragmati einai katwtera twn peristasewn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den eprepe na enhmerwsete apo tote ta kommata kai eidikotera thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, oti einai sthn Ellada o Otsalan kai na parete mia koinh apofash, gia to ti qa kanete; To krycate th stigmh poy sas rwtoysame kai emeis, edw kai legate oyte Kerkyra, oyte Arajo, oyte edw hrqe, oyte pathse to podi toy, oyte perase kaqoloy.

REPPAS: Xairomai giati me thn erwthsh sas moy dinete thn eykairia na epanalabw oti h Ellada, poy me kostos gia thn idia anelabe na prosferei gia anqrwpistikoys kai mono logoys bohqeia ston Ampntoylax Otsalan, ginetai shmera stoxos tetoiwn epiqesewn, apo kapoioys ekproswpoys Koyrdwn, oi opoioi den ektimoyn oti monon h xwra mas akoloyqhse mia tetoia politikh bohqeias pros ton A. Otsalan, me aristes proqeseis kai me apotelesma, bebaiws, dysmenes, gia to opoio exoyn analhfqei eyqynes. Kai sto plaisio ths ereynas poy ginetai se dyo epipeda, ekei opoy alloy yparxoyn eyqynes, qa apodoqoyn sto akeraio. Ayto akribws einai to stoixeio toy problhmatismoy, to opoio anadeiknyetai mesa apo thn erwthsh sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kati akoma sxetika me ayto poy eipate "giati oi alloi siwpoyn". Poioi einai oi alloi poy siwpoyn;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw tis teleytaies hmeres, enw einai kaqhmerinh h epiqesh poy dexetai h xwra mas apo thn hgesia ths Toyrkias, na exoyn ekfrasei ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs kapoia qesh epi toy qematos aytoy. Enw emeis, se kaqhmerinh bash, me cyxraimo tropo, antimetwpizoyme toys isxyrismoys ths toyrkikhs propagandas. Opws, epishs, oxi mono ta kommata, alla kai foreis kai proswpa exoyn adiaforhsei gi' aytoy toy eidoys thn epiqesh poy dexetai h Ellada.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai meta apo ola osa exoyn symbei o Prwqypoyrgos aisqanetai thn anagkh na paraithqei;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos perissotero para pote, aisqanetai thn anagkh na odhghsei thn Ellada stoys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei. Na diasfalisoyme thn politikh staqerothta, ws to xrhsimo kai aparaithto edafos epi toy opoioy qa anaptyjoyme oles tis epomenes prwtoboylies. Prwtoboylies oi opoies qa mas feroyn sthn Oikonomikh kai Nomismatikh Enwsh, san mia xwra isotimh me tis alles xwres ths E. E., wste na ypodexqoyme me ajiwseis ton 21o aiwna kai na antimetwpisoyme tis proklhseis poy exoyme mprosta mas.

SOYGLERHS: Qelw na rwthsw prwton, an h kybernhsh enhmerwqhke gia th synenteyjh ths k. Ntilan kai poios phre thn apofash gia th synenteyjh ayth kai deyteron an to sklhro kathgorw pros thn ellhnikh kybernhsh se ayto to ycos jekinaei apo thn koyrdikh hgesia h apo kapoia alla kentra;

REPPAS: Gia to deytero den exw ypoch moy stoixeia ta opoia na me odhgoyn se ena asfales symperasma. Mporw na kanw polles ypoqeseis, pragma to opoio den einai toy parontos. Gia to prwto sas lew oti h synenteyjh ayth htan epilogh aytwn poy thn paraxwrhsan. H ellhnikh kybernhsh den exei opoiadhpote emplokh sth lhch mias tetoias apofashs gia thn paraxwrhsh synenteyjhs. Eipa omws kai epanalambanw me emfash oti opws panta etsi kai twra qa synexisoyme th symparastash mas ston agwna toy koyrdikoy laoy kai pantote, epeidh, h Ellada einai mia Dhmokratia, qa dinoyme to dikaiwma se tetoia proswpa na lene eleyqera tis apoceis toys. Oloi sthn Ellhnikh Dhmokratia exoyn dikaiwma na ekfrasoyn eleyqera tis apoceis toys. Ayto einai to megaleio ths Dhmokratias poy exoyme kerdisei ston topo mas.

SOYGLERHS: Kati akomh kyrie Ypoyrge: Apo pote h eleyqerh ekfrash timwreitai me diagrafh; Kai erwtw me aformh th diagrafh apo to PASOK toy k. Mpantoyba.

REPPAS: Yparxei ena plaisio entos toy opoioy prepei na kinoyntai ta stelexh kai oi boyleytes enos kommatos. Kaqe komma exei mia sygkekrimenh politikh. Se kaqe komma symmetexei o kaqenas epeidh dexetai kapoies arxes kai desmeyetai apo tis epiloges toy kommatos. Etsi, akribws, apofasise o Prwqypoyrgos kai ekrine oti einai ektos toy plaisioy politikhs poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh h stash toy k. Mpantoyba kai gi' ayto proxwrhse sth lhch ayths ths apofashs.

PARIS: Meta apo ola ayta ta gegonota oson afora ton k. Otsalan, qewrei h kybernhsh oti h apofash na toy parasxei anqrwpistikh bohqeia htan laqos;

REPPAS: H apofash ayth den htan lanqasmenh apofash. Sas eipa, allwste, oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh den proskalese ton Ampntoylax Otsalan sthn Ellada kai synepws h ellhnikh kybernhsh den dhmioyrghse to qema. H kybernhsh breqhke apenanti se ena tetelesmeno gegonos. Breqhke mprosta s' ena problhma, to opoio eprepe na antimetwpisei. Ekeinh thn wra epikrathse h apoch oti gia anqrwpistikoys logoys eprepe na prosferoyme ayth th bohqeia. Ek twn ysterwn mporei kapoios na kanei polles analyseis kai isws diaforetikes ektimhseis. Shmasia exei oti h Ellada htan h monh xwra h opoia epeleje ayto to dromo ths anqrwpistikhs arwghs pros ton Ampntoylax Otsalan, pragma to opoio, fainetai, kapoioi to paragnwrizoyn kai dikazoyn kai amfisbhtoyn akomh kai tis proqeseis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, pragma aparadekto.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Sthn arxh ths eisagwgikhs sas topoqethshs, sto tetarto shmeio -an qymamai kala- eipate oti kapoioi kykloi ejyphretoysan kapoia symferonta me stoxo na plhjoyn thn kybernhsh kai ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla h kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos eklegontai apo ton ellhniko lao klp. klp. Poioi einai aytoi oi kykloi entos Elladas poy exoyn aytoys toys stoxoys;

REPPAS: Moy kanei entypwsh oti yparxei mia sympleysh kai symparatajh kapoiwn ekproswpwn twn Koyrdwn me paragontes kai kykloys oi opoioi exoyn ena safh antikybernhtiko prosanatolismo. Einai faneres oi politikes diaqeseis kai epidiwjeis toys na anatrapei o Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh toy PASOK. Ayto akribws ennow.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Poioi einai aytoi;

REPPAS: Milhsa gi' aytoys me toys opoioys brisketai se symparatajh ayth h omada poy ekproswpei Koyrdoys. Kai prepei na pw, oti otan milame gia koyrdiko lao h otan milame gia Koyrdoys h gia ekproswpoys Koyrdwn, den prepei na mas diafeygei oti o koyrdikos laos ariqmei polla ekatommyria anqrwpwn kai den ekproswpeitai mono apo to RKK. H opoioi ekproswpoyn to RKK, den ekproswpoyn kat' anagkh h apokleistikws to synolo toy koyrdikoy laoy. Ayto prepei na einai safes, dioti yparxei kai ayth h parejhghsh kai paranohsh, me apotelesma na exei stenecei para poly o kyklos ekproswphshs toy koyrdikoy laoy, pragma to opoio pisteyoyme oti den einai pros to symferon toy laoy aytoy. Timoyme tis ekproswphseis kai toys foreis poy ekfrazoyn tis diaqeseis toy koyrdikoy laoy. Prepei, omws, ola ayta na ta antimetwpizoyme sth swsth diastash toys.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, na epimeinw ligo, epeidh den dieykrinisate: Sygkatalegete kai ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, sygkatalegete proswpa, foreis, poioi einai aytoi;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs na exoyn mia kaqhmerinh synergasia me toys sygkekrimenoys ekproswpoys Koyrdwn. Apla yparxei mia symfwnia se politiko epipedo h opoia prokyptei kairoskopika kai ek twn pragmatwn, epeidh ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs qewroyn oti brhkan ena pronomiako, gi' ayta, pedio prokeimenoy na plhjoyn thn kybernhsh.

KARAGIANNH: Eipate sto prwto shmeio ths eisagwgikhs sas topoqethshs, oti h politikh arxwn poy akoloyqei h xwra mas sto Koyrdiko exei kostos me apotelesma na ginetai h xwra mas kai dekths diabhmatwn. Parakalw na mas dieykrinisete apo poioys ginontai ayta ta diabhmata kai deyteron, an alhqeyei h plhroforia oti yphrje diabhma ths amerikanikhs pleyras, gia th xorhghsh politikoy asyloy stis treis synergatides toy A. Otsalan;

REPPAS: Oi HPA exoyn ekfrasei thn enoxlhsh toys, giati h Ellada prosefere kalych gia thn asfalh metafora twn triwn gynaikwn sthn Ellada, apo thn presbeia mas sto Nairompi. Epishs, exoyn ekdhlwsei enoxlhsh giati prosferame politiko asylo. Otan milw gia politikh arxwn, milw gia tis prwtoboylies poy exoyme analabei kai analambanoyme epeidh pisteyoyme oti etsi empraktws symparastekomaste ston agwna toy koyrdikoy laoy kai idiaiterws symballoyme sto na epiteyxqei mia dikaih antimetwpish toy Ampntoylax Otsalan, poy ayth thn wra dokimazetai sthn toyrkikh fylakh. Poia allh xwra exei analabei sxetikes prwtoboylies; O Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos esteile epistolh se omologoys toy kai eqije to qema. H Ellada einai ayth h opoia phre thn prwtoboylia kai eqese to qema pros syzhthsh sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn, thn prohgoymenh Deytera. Kai sto plaisio ayths ths syzhthshs diatypwqhke h dhlwsh twn shmeiwn poy einai taytoshma me thn protash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Kati analogo ginetai shmera me to Synedrio toy Eyrwpaikoy Sosialistikoy Kommatos. Ola ayta deixnoyn oti h Ellada einai ayth h opoia shkwnei thn eyqynh na anadeijei ta qemata toy agwna toy koyrdikoy laoy. Kai omws h Ellada einai ayth h opoia kata periergo tropo, monh qa elega, exei ginei stoxos epikrisewn apo kapoioys, pragma to opoio qewroyme pws einai aparadekto.

KARAGIANNH: Orismenes plhrofories anaferoyn oti stis prosfates katalhceis poy eginan sta ktiria ellhnikwn presbeiwn, eklaphsan eggrafa diplwmatikwn antiproswpeiwn kai malista me ychlo baqmo diabaqmishs. To erwthma moy einai an epibebaiwnete aytes tis plhrofories kai an einai dynaton na mas enhmerwsete gia to periexomeno kai thn ektash ayths ths apwleias.

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw leptomereies sto epipedo poy zhtate na apanthsw. Eipame tote pws h energeia ayth katalhchs ktiriwn ellhnikwn diplwmatikwn apostolwn, htan mia exqrikh energeia enantion ths Elladas kai thn apodokimasame. Pisteyoyme oti h kinhsh ayth htan epilogh oligariqmwn omadwn kai den aphxei th diaqesh h tis epiloges toy koyrdikoy laoy. To pisteyoyme ayto. Apo kei kai pera, oi ellhnikes diplwmatikes yphresies, diapistwsan oti pragmati exoyn proklhqei para polles zhmies sta ktiria twn diplwmatikwn apostolwn mas, meta apo aytes tis katalhceis. Se orismenes periptwseis, opws sto Projeneio sto Berolino exoyn ginei terasties zhmies. Alla kai se alla ktiria oi zhmies poy exoyn proklhqei, einai megaloy megeqoys. Ayto mporw na to pw.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Paramerizontas tis opoies enstaseis kai diafores epi toy prokeimenoy, qa mporoyse enas kalopistos antilogos na paradexqei ta osa eipate sthn anakoinwsh sas, sto prologo sas. O aplos omws poliths h opados toy PASOK, an qelete, anarwtietai poies einai oi politikes eyqynes ths kybernhshs s' ayto to qema. Twra apologeitai se sygkekrimena qemata kai anejarthtws twn timwriwn poy qa epiblhqoyn meta apo tis anakriseis klp h kybernhsh den aisqanetai to xreos na dei tis paralhceis ths na tis omologhsei kai na tis diorqwsei; Eiste ypeyqynoi apenanti ston lao poy xeiristhkate kat' ayton ton tropo ayth thn ypoqesh, wste oi men Koyrdoi na sas kathgoroyn oti paradwsate ton Otsalan, h de Toyrkia na sas leei oti yposthrizete to RKK. Ayto einai ejwfreniko.

REPPAS: Gia thn wra ayth, symplhrwnw egw, h kybernhsh monh ths antimetwpizei thn kritikh ths antipoliteyshs, h opoia antipoliteysh den noiwqei thn anagkh sto plaisio mias ypeyqynhs stashs apo thn pleyra ths, na analysei ta gegonota etsi kai na akoloyqhsei mia politikh h opoia qa symballei wste h xwra mas -giati h kybernhsh den einai mono kybernhsh, ayth thn wra ekproswpei th xwra mas, me th qelhsh toy ellhnikoy laoy- na antimetwpisei apotelesmatika ayth th diplh epiqesh. Antiqetws, h antipoliteysh paramenei sto na diapistwnei ayth thn epiqesh poy dexetai h xwra kai h idia na prosqetei th dikh ths kritikh pros thn kybernhsh, epeidh qewrei oti ayto qa th bohqhsei na antlhsei mikrokommatika ofelh.

Prepei na pw, oti gia ta gegonota kai tis eyqynes poy anamfibola yparxoyn, odhghqhkame sthn allagh toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos. Gnwrizete oti treis koryfaioi ypoyrgoi epacan na einai melh ths kybernhshs. Gnwrizete epishs, oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei milhsei kai dhmosiws gia politikes eyqynes poy yparxoyn. Ola ta alla, apoteloyn antikeimeno ereynas toso twn eisaggelikwn arxwn, oso kai ths ypo systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Emeis epiqymoyme na lamcei h alhqeia, na yparjei plhrhs enhmerwsh kai plhroforhsh gia to pws ejelixqhkan ta gegonota, prokeimenoy ta porismata poy qa diatypwqoyn na dwsoyn se oloys mia kaqarh eikona gia thn ypoqesh ayth. H kybernhsh, sas diabebaiw kai epanalambanw kati poy exw pei, den exei tipota na krycei kai den fobatai thn alhqeia. Qeloyme na xyqei apleto fws s' ayth thn ypoqesh kai qa symballoyme s' ayth thn kateyqynsh.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Kai mia erwthsh poy exei sxesh, an den kanw laqos, me th dikh sas armodiothta h kapoioy synergath sas, edw sto Ypoyrgeio. Ti exei kanei h Ellada ston tomea ths enhmerwshs ths dieqnoys koinhs gnwmhs, thn propaganda panw s' ayto to qema; Den exei ena etoimo sxedio otan symbei kati tetoio na mporei na antidra;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola h Ellada exei symmaxo ths to dikio kai thn alhqeia. Ayto kanei eykolotero to ergo ths. Qa moy epitrecete omws na mh feroyme edw, sto trapezi mias dhmosias syzhthshs, tis prwtoboylies poy analambanoyme kai tis energeies poy kanoyme ston tomea ayto. Antilambaneste kai eseis pws ayto apotelei qema to opoio xeirizomaste, metajy twn allwn, kai me mystikothta, doqentos oti an to metatrecoyme se zhthma dhmosias syzhthshs, emfanizoyme ta "opla" poy exoyme h ta ergaleia poy xrhsimopoioyme se ekeinoys oi opoioi qa hqelan na ta katasthsoyn anenerga. Kai den prepei na to kanoyme ayto. Sas lew, mono, pws aytes tis hmeres o Genikos Grammateas Enhmerwshs k. Nikolaoy, brisketai sto ejwteriko. Qa episkefqei diafores xwres sthn Eyrwph kai stis HPA. Syzhta me ta Grafeia Typoy, me toys paragontes kai toys foreis me toys opoioys exoyme mia kalh synergasia gia thn anadeijh toy proswpoy ths sygxronhs Elladas sto ejwteriko. Yparxei mia seira prwtoboyliwn poy einai se ejelijh, alla gia ola ayta ta qemata, parakalw, na afhsete toys xeirismoys s' aytoys poy einai armodioi. Pisteyw oti qa antapokriqoyn sto rolo toys.

FILHS: Kat` arxhn, kyrie Ypoyrge, eseis h kapoioi apo thn kybernhsh qa pate shmera to apogeyma sth synaylia;

REPPAS: Egw, kyrie Filh, exw sterhqei aytes tis xares ths zwhs, gia logoys oi opoioi jepernoyn th qelhsh moy. Qa eimai mexri arga to brady sto grafeio moy.

FILHS: Qa yparjei antiproswpeia toy kybernhtikoy kommatos h ths kybernhshs to apogeyma sth synaylia;

REPPAS: Oson afora to komma den gnwrizw. Pisteyw, omws, oti kanena politiko komma den exei dhlwsei oti qa ekproswphqei me antiproswpeia se ayth thn ekdhlwsh.

FILHS: H kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto.

FILHS: H kybernhsh exei parasxei oles tis dieykolynseis gia na ginei ayth h synaylia;

REPPAS: Asfalws. Den yparxei kanena problhma ston tomea ayto. Allwste, oi pneymatikoi anqrwpoi kai oi kallitexnes exoyn problhmatismoys kai anhsyxies, tis opoies ekdhlwnoyn me th dhmioyrgia toys. Kai panta h kallitexnikh kai pneymatikh dhmioyrgia einai eyprosdekth.

FILHS: Epikeintai metra periorismoy ths drashs twn Koyrdwn sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: Exw pei kat` epanalhch kai epanalambanw oti kaqe poliths se ayth th xwra, efoson anaptyssei synnomh drasthriothta, efoson den parabiazei to syntagmatiko kai nomiko plaisio ths xwras, mporei na leei tis apoceis toy, na kineitai, na drasthriopoieitai kata tis dikes toy epiloges. Den antimetwpizei kanena problhma. Ayto einai to krithrio kai mono.

FILHS: Otan sthn apanthsh sas sthn ka Ntilan lete oti parembainei sta eswterika ths xwras, gia to opoia ypeyqynos einai mono o kyriarxos ellhnikos laos, ayto kata th gnwmh sas synista mia aitia, mia aformh gia ton periorismo ths drasthriothtas twn Koyrdwn sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: Bebaiws oxi. Apla qeloyme na kanoyme safes oti o kyriarxos ellhnikos laos exei ejoysies poy aytos kai mono mporei kai dikaioytai na askei. Kai apo thn allh, mh sas diafeygei pws, opws exoyn to dikaiwma oi polites poy zoyn se ayth th xwra, opws h ka Kilits, na miloyn kai na lene tis apoceis toys -kai yperaspizomaste ayto to dikaiwma toys kai eggyomaste ayto to dikaiwma toys- parakalw anagnwriste kai s` emas th dynatothta kai to dikaiwma na diatypwnoyme kai th dikh mas qesh.

FILHS: Sthn anakoinwsh poy apantoysate sthn ka Kilits, eipate oti yioqetei aisxres toyrkikes sykofanties. Poies einai aytes;

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti h synenteyjh htan ena anqellhniko paralhrhma. To eipa kai to epanalambanw. Den htan tipota allo para mia yioqethsh ths pio aisxrhs toyrkikhs propagandas, giati xwris kanena stoixeio, para mono th diaisqhsh h thn cyxologikh analysh twn proswpikothtwn sthn opoia pisteyei oti proebh me epityxia, katelhje sto na diatypwnei kathgories enantion toy Prwqypoyrgoy, enantion Ypoyrgwn, enantion ths kybernhshs. Kathgories enantion ths xwras mas, enantion ths kybernhshs mas diatypwnontai apo thn Toyrkia. Pisteyw, loipon, oti qa eprepe, anti na metablhqei se organo kai meso antikybernhtikhs propagandas me tis dhlwseis ths, na einai poly pio prosektikh, na staqmisei ta pragmata etsi kai na milhsei stoixeioqethmena kai ypeyqyna, giati allwste etsi mporei na bohqhsei kalytera kai to kommati ekeino toy koyrdikoy laoy poy ekproswpei. Ayto pisteyw oti einai to diko ths xreos kai s` ayto eprepe na antapokriqei.

FILHS: H Toyrkia leei oti o Prwqypoyrgos kai o k. Pagkalos syneprajan se mia dieqnh synomwsia kai paredwsan ton Otsalan sthn Toyrkia;

REPPAS: H Toyrkia kai h hgesia ths exei ejapolysei mia ekstrateia dysfhmishs ths Elladas, dysfhmishs ths politikhs hgesias ths xwras mas, epeidh isxyrizetai oti parexoyme prostasia sto RKK, oti dhqen leitoyrgoyn stratopeda sthn Ellada kai diafora alla ceydh, ta opoia einai fantasiwseis kai myqeymata. Pisteyw oti ayth thn wra poy h Ellada dexetai epiqesh apo thn Toyrkia, h ka Kilits den qa eprepe -ej antikeimenoy isws, aqelhta isws, alla sthn prajh ayto egine- na rijei nero s` ayto to mylo ths propagandas enantion ths Elladas. Giati strafhke enantion ths Elladas kai ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, me tropo o opoios einai anepitreptos.

FILHS: Gia na ginei safes, giati thn kathgoroyme thn ka Kilits. H kybernhsh eipe proxqes oti yioqetei h ka Kilits tis pio aisxres toyrkikes apoceis, sykofanties, dhmosieymata k. lp. Yparxei toyrkikh qesh poy leei oti h Ellada edwse ton Otsalan sthn Toyrkia; Ayto leei h ka Kilits.

REPPAS: Milhsa gia toyrkikh propaganda. H toyrkikh propaganda strefetai enantion ths Elladas kai ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. H ka Kilits strafhke me tis dhlwseis ths enantion ths Elladas kai ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Gi` ayto milhsa.

FILHS: O Proedros ths Boylhs k. Kaklamanhs se synenteyjh toy shmera sta NEA proteinei ston Prwqypoyrgo na proxwrhsei se anasxhmatismo meta to Synedrio. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: O k. Kaklamanhs enocei toy Synedrioy, opws kai alla stelexh, diatypwnei tis apoceis toy. O Prwqypoyrgos exei thn armodiothta kai thn ejoysia na parei tis telikes apofaseis gia diafora qemata, metajy twn opoiwn to sygkekrimeno, poy apotelei qema dikhs toy apokleistikhs armodiothtas.

FILHS: To skeftetai o Prwqypoyrgos to qema ayto;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete pws ayth thn wra eimaste enocei toy Synedrioy. Den gnwrizw ti skeftetai o Prwqypoyrgos kai mhn perimenete na apantw se sxetikes erwthseis poy aforoyn diaqeseis, skeceis h ypoqeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Einai kati to opoio qa prepei eseis na to krinete apo tis prajeis. Na basisteite, dhladh, sta pragmatika dedomena. Ayth thn wra den yparxei kati tetoio. Ara, loipon, den yfistatai tetoio qema.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mporeite na ermhneysete to gegonos oti koryfaia stelexh ths kybernhshs bghkan na yperaspistoyn thn politikh ths kybernhshs kai th xwra meta thn kaqoristikh parembash toy k. Mikh Qeodwrakh kai oxi prin apo aythn;

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti ola ta stelexh, meta th synenteyjh poy edwse h ka Kilits, enoiwsan thn anagkh na antimetwpisoyn ayth thn epiqesh enantion ths ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, h opoia htan aparadekth kai ybristikh kai gi` ayto akribws me kaqe tropo ekanan faneres tis apoceis toys, oi opoies einai apoceis yper twn ellhnikwn symferontwn kai oxi yper ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai mono. Exw th gnwmh oti h antidrash htan amesh. Mhn jexnate oti h synenteyjh ayth doqhke arga to Sabbato. Apo thn allh hmera to prwi, kiolas, se seira radiofwnikwn staqmwn kai allwn meswn enhmerwshs, stelexh ths kybernhshs, alla kai stelexh toy PASOK, diatypwsan tis apoceis toys.

GARGALAKOS: Exei diatypwqei h ektimhsh oti telika to RKK protimhse th xwra mas gia na erqei o Otsalan, o hgeths toy, epeidh hqele na wqhsei se sygkroysh Ellada kai Toyrkia. Kai gi` ayto efyge kai apo thn Italia. Exei diatypwqei kai grafei ayth h ektimhsh. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei tetoies proseggiseis;

REPPAS: Ayto einai kati adianohto. To koyrdiko problhma qa lyqei mono mesw eirhnikwn kai politikwn meswn. H epilysh toy koyrdikoy qematos akomh kai mesw enos ellhnotoyrkikoy polemoy einai skech, poy an kapoioi thn kanoyn, einai exqroi ths Elladas kai etsi prepei na antimetwpistoyn. Alla pisteyoyme oti jefeygei apo kaqe logikh paradoxh mia tetoia analysh, sthn opoia den qelw na pistecw oti kapoioi exoyn probei. Kai poly perissotero oti kapoioi prospaqoyn na th baloyn se efarmogh. Ayta einai pragmata adianohta.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Oysiastika lete apo to Sabbato to apogeyma oti, opoios kathgorei thn kybernhsh, anejarthta ean aytes oi kathgories proerxontai apo diaforetikoys xwroys kai me diaforetiko periexomeno, oysiastika thn kathgoroyn gia to idio pragma. Lete, dhladh, oti kai ekeinoi poy kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh oti paredwse ton Otsalan kai ekeinoi poy thn kathgoroyn, epeidh prosefere anqrwpistikh bohqeia, taytizontai. Qa hqela na mas peite apo poio kanona logikhs taytizete ayto to entelws diaforetiko pragma;

REPPAS: Apo th diapistwsh oti ayth thn wra h kybernhsh kai mono ayth kaleitai na shkwsei to baros ths eyqynhs gia thn poreia ths xwras, doqentos oti oloi oi alloi arkoyntai sto na diatypwnoyn kathgories enantion ths kybernhshs kai tipota allo. Eite einai kommata, eite foreis, den exw antilhfqei na diatypwnoyn mia politikh protash h na anaptyssoyn mia drasthriothta gi` ayto to qema ypo thn eyreia ennoia toy. Diapistwnw oti periorizontai sto na kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh kai na zhtoyn thn paraithsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Ayto einai ena ergo poy to exoyme janadei, alla pisteyw oti ayto apodeiknyei pws einai katwteroi twn peristasewn. Giati ayth thn wra o ellhnikos laos den perimenei apo ta politika kommata kai toys alloys foreis eykoles kathgories enantion ths kybernhshs. Oi kathgories enantion ths kybernhshs mporei na exoyn th qesh toys sto plaisio ths politikhs antiparaqeshs, sto plaisio ths leitoyrgias toy politikoy systhmatos. Alla, bebaiws, ws stoixeio mias eyryterhs protashs h opoia einai xrhsimh gia na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata poy ayth thn wra exoyme mprosta mas. Ayto den ginetai omws.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Me thn apanthsh sas epibebaiwnete thn apoch poy leei oti kai h kathgoria ths kybernhshs pros ton eswteriko politiko xwro oti yioqetoyn thn toyrkikh propaganda -giati ayto leei oysiastika- synista kathgoria poy sas apeyqynetai oti me ayto ton tropo toyrkopoieite eseis oi idioi ws kybernhsh thn eswterikh politikh zwh ths xwras. Ti apantate se ayto;

REPPAS: Oti ayto einai ejw apo tis dikes mas qeseis. Den to eipe kaneis, den to yposthrije kaneis apo thn kybernhsh. Lypoymai poy to lete eseis. Einai ayqaireto diko sas symperasma. Den exei kamia sxesh me tis qeseis ths kybernhshs. Bebaiws, exei sxesh me tis epiqymies ekeinwn poy qa hqelan kai di` aytoy toy tropoy na laspwsoyn kai na sykofanthsoyn thn kybernhsh.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Oysiastika diamorfwnete ena sxhma poy leei oti, opoios kathgorei ton k. Shmith h thn kybernhsh, oysiastika kathgorei thn Ellada kai ton ellhniko lao. Exw ypoch moy dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy -an tis amfisbhthsete, qa sas tis ferw kai tis hmeromhnies kai tis akribeis ekfraseis- thn periodo '90-'93 na xarakthrizei thn tote kybernhsh kai ton tote Prwqypoyrgo ws prodotes. Gi` aytes toy tis dhlwseis -kai oxi mono gi` aytes- o k. Pagkalos anabaqmisthke kai egine Ypoyrgos twn Ejwterikwn. Tote o k. Pagkalos kai to PASOK, kathgorwntas ton k. Mhtsotakh gia prodosia, kathgoroyse thn Ellada kai ton ellhniko lao; Kybernhsh htan tote h Nea Dhmokratia.

REPPAS: Sas diafeygei oti apo tote mexri shmera exoyn mesolabhsei dyo eklogikes anametrhseis, tis opoies kerdise to PASOK kai me thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy kyberna ton topo. Kai sas diafeygei ayto poy eipa kat` epanalhch oti o ellhnikos laos einai o ypertatos kriths, aytos o opoios exei thn ejoysia na mas krinei thn katallhlh stigmh, apodidontas tis eyqynes se aytoys, poy qewrei oti exoyn eyqynes kai epilegontas ekeinoys, poy qewrei oti einai oi ikanoi, prokeimenoy na ton ekproswphsoyn kai na odhghsoyn th xwra sto mellon. Afhste, loipon, ton ellhniko lao na krinei. Ayto to opoio den prepei na kanoyme, einai na qewroyme pws kaqenas apo emas einai o ellhnikos laos kai na diatypwnoyme me ayth th genikh aforistikh topoqethsh, th diaqesh toy ellhnikoy laoy, enw sthn prajh kai sthn oysia den ekfrazoyme tipota allo, para thn proswpikh mas epiqymia kai qesh.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada egine mia ektakth syskech toy Genikoy Symboylioy Eswterikwn Ypoqesewn. Qa hqela na jerw poios ekproswphse ekei thn ellhnikh pleyra kai se ti symfwnhsan;

REPPAS: Se ayto to Symboylio Eswterikwn Ypoqesewn thn Ellada ekproswphsan yphresiakoi paragontes toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs, opws ginetai kai se alles tetoies periptwseis.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Se ti symfwnhsan kai ti apofasisthke;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw leptomereies ayths ths apofashs. Parakalw mporeite na apeyqynqeite armodiws sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, toy opoioy ypallhloi symmeteixan se ayth th Synodo kai na exete leptomereis apanthseis. Nomizw oti exei ekdoqei sxetikh anakoinwsh h opoia ayth thn wra den einai sth diaqesh moy.

KARASABBA: Eipate oti h ka Ntilan me th synenteyjh ths strafhke kata tropo anepitrepto kata ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai toy k. Shmith. Pws qa strafei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, o k. Shmiths kai h Ellada kata ths kas Ntilan; Qa parete sygkekrimena metra; Qa ths peite na fygei apo th xwra;

REPPAS: H diafwnia einai politikh. Einai diafwnia se sxesh me ta alhqh peristatika. H kybernhsh den strefetai enantion ths kas Kilits me astynomiko h dioikhtiko tropo, efoson h ka Kilits zei me tetoio tropo kai drasthriopoieitai sthn Ellada etsi, wste na mhn parabainei to syntagmatiko kai nomiko plaisio ths xwras.

KARASABBA: Meta apo ola ayta ta opoia exoyn ginei, h Ellada qa synexisei na dinei bhma sto RKK na kanei tetoia prosblhtikh propaganda;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti sthn Ellada, opws kai se alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, yparxoyn grafeia toy Apeleyqerwtikoy Metwpoy ta opoia leitoyrgoyn nomimws. Ayto, allwste, einai kati to opoio ginetai se nomimo plaisio kai apotelei, qa elega, mia anagkh dedomenoy kai toy megaloy ariqmoy twn prosfygwn se diafores xwres ths Eyrwphs, poy katagontai apo diafores perioxes. Kai prepei na pw oti ginetai mia prospaqeia apo diaforoys na paroysiasoyn thn ekproswphsh twn Koyrdwn sthn Ellada, ws ekproswphsh mias sygkekrimenhs organwshs. Exw apanthsei gia to qema ayto.

FILHS: H ka Kilits ti ekproswpei;

REPPAS: To RKK. H idia leei oti ekproswpei ayth thn organwsh. Bebaiws, den diwketai to fronhma twn politwn poy zoyn sthn Ellada. Ayto to opoio elegxetai omws einai h systash grafeiwn kai h leitoyrgia yphresiwn apo kapoies organwseis. Kai exw pei poies einai aytes oi organwseis oi opoies mporoyn na leitoyrgoyn nomimws sthn Ellada.

FILHS: Synenteyjh Typoy qa janadwsei h ka Kilits;

REPPAS: Einai qema dikhs ths epiloghs. Einai diko ths dikaiwma.

FILHS: To RKK mporei na dinei synenteyjh Typoy sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: To fronhma den diwketai sthn Ellada. Apo kei kai pera eipa oti einai sygkekrimenes oi organwseis poy epitrepetai na leitoyrgoyn nomimws sth xwra mas.

KARASABBA: Pera apo th dhlwsh toy STATE DEPARTMENT sxetika me to qema toy politikoy asyloy kai meta apo ayta poy eginan to perasmeno Sabbatokyriako, yphrje kapoia epafh melwn ths kybernhsews me thn amerikanikh kai israhlinh pleyra sxetika me ayto to qema ths synenteyjhs;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw na exei ginei kapoia allh synergasia gia to qema ayto. An ennoeite thn episkech sthn Ellada toy Genikoy Grammatea toy Ypoyrgeioy Asfaleias toy Israhl, sas lew oti einai mia episkech programmatismenh apo kairo, sto plaisio twn dimerwn sxesewn. Qa synanthqei me ton Arxhgo kai ton Yparxhgo ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias. Einai kati to opoio ginetai metajy twn ekproswpwn se ayto to epipedo twn xwrwn poy exoyn synacei metajy toys sxetikes symfwnies. Den exei kamia sxesh -eimai kathgorhmatikos se ayto- me th sygkekrimenh ypoqesh.

SOYRMELH: Meta apo ayth thn ekfrash dysareskeias twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn, se ti epipedo briskontai shmera oi ellhnoamerikanikes sxeseis; Einai kalyteres, einai to idio h einai xeiroteres;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti oi ellhnoamerikanikes sxeseis einai kales. Mporei na ginoyn, bebaiws, kalyteres. Alla einai se poly kalo epipedo shmera oi sxeseis.

SOYRMELH: To idio htan kai xqes;

REPPAS: Gia to xqes ean to ennoeite se istorikh diastash, qa sas pw oti yphrje mia periodos poy eixame kakes sxeseis. Eixame pagwmenes sxeseis. Sas lew oti shmera oi ellhnoamerikanikes sxeseis einai se poly kalo epipedo.

SOYRMELH: Eipate oti to RKK den ekproswpei ton koyrdiko lao. Wstoso, blepoyme oti yparxoyn sthn Ellada grafeia toy Apeleyqerwtikoy Metwpoy. Skeftetai h Ellada na anoijei grafeia kai twn ypoloipwn koyrdikwn omadwn, dhladh twn ypoloipwn kommatwn poy ekproswpoyn ton koyrdiko lao sthn Toyrkia;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti to Apeleyqerwtiko Metwpo ekfrazei, an oxi to synolo, to megalo fasma toy koyrdikoy laoy kai opws se alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, etsi kai sthn Ellada leitoyrgoyn nomimws ta grafeia toy. Apo kei kai pera, den exei ekdhlwqei kapoio aithma h kapoia diaqesh gia th dhmioyrgia grafeiwn allwn organwsewn.

KIAOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an qewreite oti to RKK einai tromokratikh organwsh.

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei se ayto kat` epanalhch. Sas parapempw, loipon, se dhlwseis poy exw kanei. Yparxei enas ektetamenos dialogos, ton opoio tyxainei na exw mprosta moy, o opoios egine sthn politikh enhmerwsh ths 4hs Maioy 1998. Sas ta exw pei ola. Ayta isxyoyn, den allazei tipota. Aytes einai oi qeseis mas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Peste ta.

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei se ayto ki exw pei kat` epanalhch oti prajeis bias h egklhmatikes energeies apodokimazontai apolytws apo emas. Kai qewroyme oti h diekdikhsh twn dikaiwmatwn omadwn opoiasdhpote morfhs, poly perissotero enos oloklhroy laoy, prepei na ginetai me eirhnika kai politika mesa. Einai safhs h topoqethsh mas.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: H ka Kilits kai oi alles dyo synexizoyn na einai sth diaqesh twn ellhnikwn anakritikwn arxwn;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti me dikh toys prwtoboylia kai eyqynh zhthsan ena allo katalyma apo to jenodoxeio poy filojenoyntan. Exoyn eleyqeria kinhsewn. Den ypokeintai se opoiodhpote periorismo kai bebaiws, efoson zhthqei na kataqesoyn kai pali, pisteyw oti qa proselqoyn me proqymia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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