Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-02-03

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 3 Febroyarioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, h opoia omofwnws apofasise, tis epomenes hmeres, na ypografei h symbash paraxwrhshs gia thn kataskeyh toy Metro sth Qessalonikh. Sth synexeia, poly syntoma, h symbash ayth qa prowqhqei sth Boylh, prokeimenoy na katastei nomos toy kratoys, me thn kyrwsh ths.

Gia ola ayta ta qemata, dinei synenteyjh Typoy, ayth thn wra, o k. Laliwths. Egw den qa anaptyjw, peraiterw, otidhpote sxetiko me th synedriash ayth.

Mporw na apanthsw stis erwthseis sas, efoson to epiqymeite. Exw arketa stoixeia sth diaqesh sas, opws eimai sth diaqesh sas na akoysw tis erwthseis sas gia qemata ths epikairothtas.

KIAOS: Sthn arxh, o Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke se alla qemata;

REPPAS: Den egine syzhthsh, oyte kan anafora se opoiodhpote allo qema.

PODHMATA: H kybernhsh qewrei thn arxikh apofash, gia thn egkatastash twn S-300 sthn Kypro, orqh h lanqasmenh; Dedomenoy oti o k. Tsoxatzopoylos th xarakthrise, xqes, orqh kai o k. Pagkalos, prin apo liges hmeres, lanqasmenh.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h stash twn dyo kratwn sta qemata amynas einai koinh. H poreia mas einai koinh, opws koinh qa einai kai sto mellon. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia -kai se ayto prepei na meinoyme- einai oti oi apofaseis lambanontai me gnwmona to eqniko symferon. Otan elhfqh h mia apofash, elhfqh katw apo sygkekrimenes synqhkes. Otan elhfqh h allh apofash, elhfqh katw apo diaforetikes synqhkes. Kai stis dyo periptwseis prytaneyse to eqniko symferon. Pisteyw oti ayto prepei na ektimhqei deontws kai se teleytaia analysh, kaqenas mporei na exei tis dikes toy ektimhseis, ayto to opoio, omws, oydeis dikaioytai na kanei, poly perissotero otan xeirizetai eqnikes ypoqeseis, einai na paramenei akamptos kai dogmatikos, mono kai mono gia na yperaspizetai tis entypwseis poy epidiwkei na dhmioyrghqoyn kai oxi thn oysia, poy den einai allh apo thn yperaspish toy eqnikoy symferontos. Me ayth thn ennoia, oi apofaseis twn organwn ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias kai h stash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, se oles tis faseis, se oles tis syzhthseis gia to sygkekrimeno qema, htan staseis oi opoies sthrixqhkan sto eqniko symferon kai mono.

ALEJAKH: Gnwrizei h kybernhsh oti yparxei parembash ths toyrkikhs kybernhshs ston Amerikano Proedro Klinton poy toy leei oti qa qewrhsei aitia polemoy thn egkatastash twn S-300 sthn Krhth;

REPPAS: H Toyrkia -diko ths qema einai- mporei na anaptyssei prwtoboylies kai na parembainei opoy ekeinh nomizei. Diko mas qema einai na oxyrwsoyme thn amyna mas kai na ajiopoihsoyme ta dikaiwmata mas me tetoio tropo, o opoios qa einai wfelimos gia th xwra mas, alla, bebaiws, kai gia thn eyryterh perioxh, me th dhmioyrgia synqhkwn eirhnhs, staqerothtas kai asfaleias. H epilogh gia thn egkatastash toy sygkekrimenoy oplikoy systhmatos sthn Krhth, exei ginei. Apomenei h syzhthsh, se texniko kai mono epipedo twn leptomereiwn. H epilogh ayth einai dikh mas. H apofash den ypokeitai se opoiondhpote elegxo tritwn. Ara, loipon, eite h Toyrkia, eite oi HPA, eite opoiadhpote allh xwra exei diaforetikh gnwmh, parakaloyme na thn krathsei gia ton eayto ths. Emeis qa proxwrhsoyme me gnwmona to diko mas symferon. Kai pisteyoyme oti to symferon ths xwras mas einai apolyta synyfasmeno, taytismeno qa elega, me to symferon poy exoyn ola ta krath poy epiqymoyn thn eirhnh kai th staqerothta sthn perioxh. Se ayth thn kateyqynsh kinoymaste. Me ayth thn ennoia, emeis exoyme labei tis apofaseis mas, tis opoies lambanoyme pantote -exei apodeixqei allwste ayto- me eyqynh gia thn eyryterh perioxh. Aytes tis apofaseis qa efarmosoyme.

FILHS: Apantwntas sthn erwthsh ths kas Podhmata, eipate oti otan elhfqhsan oi apofaseis htan swstes. Ek twn ysterwn twra, pisteyete ws kybernhsh oti h apofash poy elhfqh gia thn paraggelia twn S-300, gia thn egkatastash sthn Kypro, tote, ek twn ysterwn omws, htan swsth h oxi;

REPPAS: Htan mia apofash poy elhfqh me gnwmona to eqniko symferon. Elhfqh apo thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia, htan symfwnh h kybernhsh ths Elladas, giati etsi, katw apo tis synqhkes ekeinhs ths periodoy, prowqhqhke h efarmogh mias koinhs amyntikhs stashs, prokeimenoy na proaspisoyme kai na diasfalisoyme thn Kypro. Oi synqhkes apo tote ews shmera exoyn allajei arketa. Ypenqymizw kai parapempw se dyo idiaiterhs shmasias ejelijeis: H mia afora thn proodo twn entajiakwn syzhthsewn ths Kyproy sthn poreia ths pros thn E. E. H deyterh ajiologh ejelijh afora thn ekdosh dyo Chfismatwn twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, poy epiprosqetws -peran ths epanalhchs dhladh, ths politikhs bashs epi ths opoias prepei na sthrixqei kaqe prospaqeia gia thn anazhthsh lyshs sto kypriako qema- anaferontai kai sthn anagkh meiwshs ths entashs kai twn ejoplismwn sthn perioxh, sthn kateyqynsh ths apostratikopoihshs. Mia qesh h opoia einai symfwnh me thn politikh poy, edw kai arketo kairo, anaptyssei h Kypriakh Kybernhsh. Ayta ta stoixeia den prepei na ta agnooyme kai gi ayto akribws eipa, oti exoyme epideijei kai apodeijei oti me wrimothta kai eyqynh pairnoyme tis apofaseis mas.

FILHS: Ta stoixeia ayta ta agnooyse o k. Pagkalos thn Paraskeyh, otan apo to bhma ths Boylhs, dhladh, apo epishmo bhma, oxi se kapoio radiofwno, elege oti htan laqos h paraggelia;

REPPAS: O k. Pagkalos eipe to aytonohto. Eipe oti tote eixame mia apofash, twra exoyme mia allh apofash. Ayth h diafora shmainei oti twra kanoyme thn epilogh poy einai swsth, ara, h epilogh poy egine ekeinh thn periodo mporei na mhn htan h kalyterh epilogh. Bebaiws, otan allazeis qesh se kati, mporeis na peis oti h qesh poy exeis twra, epeidh akribws einai kalyterh, ej antidiastolhs prokyptei oti h palaioterh den htan h kalyterh. Sas lew, omws, epiprosqetws, oti ayto einai poly logiko, einai aytonohto. Kaqe fora prepei na ejetazeis, stis apofaseis poy pairnei kapoios, to analogo periballon. Katw apo tis synqhkes ypo tis opoies lambanontai aytes oi apofaseis.

FILHS: Xqes, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, o synarmodios ypoyrgos gia to qema, apo to epishmo bhma -oxi se radiofwna- ths Boylhs, leei jana oti htan swsth h paraggelia, alla strabwse sto dromo me toys xeirismoys. Symmerizeste ayth thn apoch eseis;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ola ayta ta qemata. Den antilambanomai thn agwnia sas, gia na ejaxqei ena symperasma, to opoio prepei na einai symfwno me to symperasma poy eseis bgazete, ws dhmosiografos kai ws poliths. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia -kai eipa kaqenas exei tis ektimhseis toy- einai toyto kai s` ayto menoyme: Oti einai koinh h stash kai h poreia twn dyo kratwn sta qemata amynas.

FILHS: Den prepei na exoyme agwnia, otan h kybernhsh dinei thn entypwsh prosynedriakoy dialogoy, mesa sth Boylh, gia ena eqniko qema;

REPPAS: Na exete agwnia, an h ellhnikh kybernhsh fanei sthn prajh oti den einai sto pleyro ths Kyproy. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei apodeijei kat` epanalhch oti einai sto pleyro ths Kyproy, enisxyei kai diasfalizei thn amyna ths, me ton kalytero kaqe fora tropo. Gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyme proxwrhsei se koines stratiwtikes askhseis. Yparxei h prwtoboylia poy exei analabei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, me qetika apotelesmata, gia thn proodo twn entajiakwn syzhthsewn, prokeimenoy h Kypros na entaxqei sthn E. E. Kai bebaiws, h kinhtikothta poy parathreitai thn teleytaia periodo peri to Kypriako deixnei oti to qema ayto den einai sto periqwrio. Apasxolei to dieqnh paragonta kai ton apasxolei se qetikh kateyqynsh, afoy oi prospaqeies toy sthrizontai s` ayto to politiko plaisio poy epanabebaiwse o OHE. Ayth h ejelijh einai poly qetikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai yper toy eqnikoy symferontos ayta ta opoia lene twra, ek twn ysterwn, o k. Pagkalos kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos;

REPPAS: O k. Pagkalos kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos einai epifaneis ypoyrgoi. Einai dhmosioi paragontes oi opoioi exoyn prosferei ston topo. Xeirizontai ta qemata toys me megalh eyqynh kai -pisteyw- apotelesmatikothta.

FILHS: Pisteyete;

REPPAS: Bebaiws, to pisteyoyme. Apolytws to pisteyoyme. Qa prepei, loipon, h kritikh gia tetoia epimeroys qemata na "pesei" kai na fwtistei perissotero h prospaqeia poy kanoyn oi sygkekrimenoi ypoyrgoi, alla kai h kybernhsh sto synolo ths, sthn kateyqynsh yperaspishs twn eqnikwn symferontwn. Ayto exei shmasia. Ayto prepei na mas endiaferei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, den thn kanoyme emeis thn kritikh. Oi idioi thn kanoyn. Aytokritikh kanoyn. Einai yper toy eqnikoy symferontos ayta ta opoia bgainoyn kai lene twra; Aytoi einai ypeyqynoi anqrwpoi;

REPPAS: Asfalws, einai yper toy eqnikoy symferontos oi epiloges twn dyo ypoyrgwn, se oloys toys tomeis. Mporw na apariqmhsw orismenoys apo aytoys, ean to epiqymeite. Exoyn apodeijei oti h symbolh toys einai poly qetikh, prwtagwnistikh qa elega, yper toy eqnikoy symferontos.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Sthn arxikh sas apanthsh gia toys S-300 eipate na mhn eimaste akamptoi kai gia logoys entypwsiasmoy na leme diafora k. lp., dioti ayto den einai yper toy eqnikoy symferontos. Aytoi oi xarakthrismoi aforoyn kai ta osa eipe o k. Tsoxatzopoylos xqes;

REPPAS: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos, me ta osa eipe den dhmioyrgei opoiadhpote entypwsh. O kanonas ston opoio anaferqhka egw einai ena genikos kanonas. Einai mia arxh, h opoia exei genikh ajia kai thn epanalambanw me aformh thn syzhthsh poy kanoyme.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Poioys aforoyn ayta; Aforoyn kapoioys sygkekrimenoys;

REPPAS: H prospaqeia poy kanoyme kaqe fora prepei na stoxeyei sthn ejyphrethsh ths oysias, sthn efarmogh toy periexomenoy mias politikhs kai oxi sth dhmioyrgia entypwsewn.

KIAOS: Poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs; Ayth poy leei o k. Pagkalos h ayth poy leei o k. Tsoxatzopoylos;

REPPAS: H qesh ths kybernhshs einai ayth poy gnwrizete. Exoyme apofasisei thn egkatastash twn pyraylwn S-300, meta thn prwtoboylia poy anelabe h Kypriakh Dhmokratia, sthn Krhth. Kai s` ayto to stadio eimaste twra.

KIAOS: Epeidh o men k. Pagkalos -na to epanalabw ki egw- eipe oti laqos einai h paraggelia, o de k. Tsoxatzopoylos swsth h paraggelia kai strabwse sto dromo, ti apo ta dyo isxyei;

REPPAS: Gia ola ayta apanthsa. Qa sas parapemcw ston perifhmo Koyntera kai sto gnwsto ergo toy "h abastaxth elafrothta toy einai", opoy anaferei se kapoio shmeio...

FILHS: H ka Lianh...

REPPAS: Blepw oti eiste gnwsths pollwn stoixeiwn ta opoia xarakthrizoyn thn kaqhmerinh zwh sthn Ellada k. Filh. Ta parakoloyqeite apo konta, diapistwnw, me thn anafora sas ayth.

FILHS: Edw zw, kyrie Ypoyrge.

REPPAS: Den einai dynaton dyo fores na antimetwpiseis me tis idies istorikes synqhkes ena fainomeno. Kaqws pernaei o kairos, allazoyn oi synqhkes. Mporei na exeis mia diaforetikh apoch h diaforetikh epilogh, alla den mporeis na gyriseis pali to xrono pisw, na breqeis pali se ekeinh th xronikh stigmh, se ekeines tis synqhkes, wste ejetazontas ta pragmata me th sofia kai thn peira poy exeis sto metajy, apokthsei, na kaneis isws mia diaforetikh epilogh. KIAOS: Epeidh o Koyntera den einai kybernhtikos ekproswpos, sas parakalw: Ayto poy eipe o Pagkalos h ayto poy eipe o Tsoxatzopoylos einai h apoch ths kybernhshs; Tipota perissotero.

REPPAS: Kyrie Kiao, den perimena apo esas na eiste peripoy diwkths twn syggrafewn, twn pneymatikwn anqrwpwn. Den katalabainw giati sas enoxlei h anafora ston Koyntera. Den katalabainw thn enoxlhsh sas, me sygxwreite poly. Pisteyw oti ayto qa eprepe na prokalesei eyfrosynh kai oxi na apotelesei shmeio antidikias. Apo kei kai pera, sas eipa poies einai oi apoceis mas gia ta qemata ayta. Den qa xreiazotan isws na dwsw apanthseis. Tis edwsa mono gia thn anagkh ths syzhthshs poy kanoyme edw, doqentos oti exete thn prajh, thn efarmogh mias politikhs, tis apofaseis ths kypriakhs kai ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, oi opoies ylopoioyntai. Otan exete, loipon, to sygkekrimeno ergo, parelkei h syzhthsh se qewrhtiko epipedo.

PODHMATA: Exei yioqethsei h kybernhsh kapoio sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma gia thn egkatastash twn S-300 sthn Krhth;

REPPAS: Einai kati to opoio antimetwpizetai sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias me th Rwsia, gia thn antimetwpish akribws twn leptomereiwn poy exoyn texniko kai diadikastiko xarakthra. Den yparxei sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma. Pantws, o xronos egkatastashs twn pyraylwn sthn Krhth einai synarthsh ths oloklhrwshs aytwn twn syzhthsewn. Pisteyoyme oti den qa makrynei aytos o xronos.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean yparxei symfwnia metajy kybernhshs kai Attiko-Metro gia th leitoyrgia toy metro prin tis ekloges toy 2000 kai an ayto exei na kanei se sxesh me thn allagh stashs toy YPEXWDE, poy den dexetai pleon oti oloi h eyqynh gia thn kaqysterhsh toy ergoy barainei thn etairia, alla kai thn idia thn kybernhsh, me apotelesma na doqoyn epipleon 65 dis.

REPPAS: Gia ola ayta ta qemata oi synadelfoi sas, fantazomai oti qa rwthsoyn shmera ton armodio ypoyrgo, o opoios dinei synenteyjh, malista gia ena qema poly sygkekrimeno, opws einai to Metro ths Qessalonikhs. Ara qa exei th dynatothta na apanthsei gia qemata poy aforoyn to Metro ths Aqhnas. Exw pei kat` epanalhch oti ena tmhma toy Metro qa einai etoimo kai mporei efoson to epitrepoyn oi synqhkes na teqei se leitoyrgia prin apo tis ekloges. An pragmatika mporei to koino na xrhsimopoihsei tis yphresies toy Organismoy aytoy, toy Metro ths Aqhnas, qa prepei na tis xrhsimopoihsei. Den qa prepei na skefqoyme oti, epeidh akribws odeyei h xwra pros ekloges, kapoioi Organismoi den prepei na leitoyrgoyn, mono kai mono gia na mhn kathgorhqoyme oti to kanoyme gia thn proselkysh chfoforwn. Pisteyw oti ayta einai pragmata adianohta. To gnwrizete ki eseis. Den stamataei h zwh. H zwh synexizetai kai meta tis ekloges, alla kai prin apo tis ekloges. Olh h zwh mas einai meta apo ekloges kai prin apo ekloges. Ti na kanoyme. Stis dhmokraties, ston koinoboyleytismo etsi ginetai.

PAPAXRHSTOS: Pote qa ginoyn oi ekloges gia na jeroyme pote qa leitoyrghsei to metro;

REPPAS: Sas exw pei pote qa leitoyrghsei to metro. Gnwrizete oti stis arxes toy 2000 ena tmhma toy qa exei teqei se leitoyrgia. Afoy, loipon, eipa oti ena tmhma toy metro qa leitoyrghsei prin apo tis ekloges, gnwrizete oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn to 2000.

FILHS: Ayrio erxetai o Genikos Grammateas toy NATO k. Solana sthn Aqhna, opws exete anakoinwsei. Yparxei mia protash, ena sxedio ths Omadas Epafhs gia to qema toy Kossyfopedioy, to opoio -apo oti grafoyn oi efhmerides- parexei eyreia aytonomia, sta oria ths aposxishs, sto Kossyfopedio. Yparxei kapoia topoqethsh ek meroys ths ellhnikhs pleyras gi` ayth thn ejelijh;

REPPAS: Anafereste sto kaloymeno sxedio Xil, to opoio problepei, entos twn synorwn ths Gioygkoslabias, eyreia aytonomia gia to Kossyfopedio. Ayto einai to basiko sxedio epi toy opoioy kaloyntai na syzhthsoyn oi dyo antimaxomenes pleyres, aytes tis hmeres, sth Gallia. Exei pei o kaloymenos "Apeleyqerwtikos Stratos" toy Kossyfopedioy oti qa steilei ekproswpoys. Anamenetai na kanei to idio kai h kybernhsh ths Gioygkoslabias. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei topoqethqei apo tis prwtes epi toy qematos aytoy, milwntas gia thn anagkh anagnwrishs twn dikaiwmatwn twn moysoylmanwn sto Kossyfopedio kai, bebaiws, th dhmioyrgia enos status, enos kaqestwtos poy problepei aytonomia sto Kossyfopedio, xwris na allazoyn ta synora ths Gioygkoslabias.

FILHS: To sxedio Xil, kata th gnwmh sas, ejyphretei ayth thn kateyqynsh;

REPPAS: Apotelei th bash gia syzhthsh. H lysh sto problhma mporei na proelqei, efoson oi dyo pleyres symfwnhsoyn. Kai an symfwnhsoyn kai thrhsoyn th symfwnia toys, qa exoyn jeperasei thn krish. An den symfwnhsoyn, mikrh shmasia exei h opoia protash diatypwnetai. Pisteyoyme oti einai mia kalh bash epi ths opoias mporei na anaptyxqei h syzhthsh kai na prokycei symfwnia.

FILHS: To Beligradi zhthse na sygklhqei to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE. Ep` aytoy, exete eseis kapoia ektimhsh;

REPPAS: Einai kati to opoio antimetwpizoyn oi xwres poy symmetexoyn sto Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE. Qewroyn oti prepei na prohghqei h synanthsh poy ginetai twra sto Rampoyigie, sth Gallia, prokeimenoy na ginei to prwto bhma, na aposafhnistoyn oi qeseis twn dyo pleyrwn kai na oikodomhqei olh h prospaqeia panw sth symfwnia poy mporei na prokycei sto plaisio ayths ths synanthshs. Apo ekei jekinoyn ola. Anamenetai h ekbash ths synanthshs ayths. Kai ektimoyme oti h Dieqnhs Koinothta, qa epideijei fantasia kai ikanothta, prokeimenoy na anaptyjei kai alles prwtoboylies, an ayto einai aparaithto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gia ena dhmosieyma ths germanikhs efhmeridas "Frankfoyrte Algkemaine"...

REPPAS: Xairomai poy me rwtate, giati hqela na kanw egw ena sxolio. Diatypwste thn erwthsh sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: ... symfwnei h kybernhsh me ayta poy grafei peri "sidhroy parapetasmatos" kai to opoio einai plhrwmeno apo to Ellhniko Dhmosio;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, den einai plhrwmeno apo to Ellhniko Dhmosio ayto to dhmosieyma. Deyteron, to enqeto afierwma, to opoio ekane h sygkekrimenh egkyrh kai megalh germanikh efhmerida gia thn Ellada, exei poly qetikes anafores sth xwra mas, me ejairesh bebaiws, tis atyxeis aytes anafores, oi opoies kai apo thn efhmerida "Bradynh" shmera perigrafontai kai gia tis opoies to Grafeio Typoy ths Ellhnikhs Presbeias sth Bonnh, exei diamartyrhqei egkaira, stelnontas sxetikh epistolh me tis analoges epishmanseis.

Prepei na pw oti einai ceydhs h anafora oti yphrje filojenia sthn Ellada enos h pollwn dhmosiografwn, oi opoioi organwsan to dhmosieyma ayto. Oydeis filojenhqhke me dika mas ejoda. To Ellhniko Dhmosio den epibarynqhke. Apla, sto plaisio toy afierwmatos, organismoi oi opoioi qewroyn oti prepei na probaloyn sto anagnwstiko koino ths Germanias tis yphresies toys h tis qeseis toys, ekanan diafhmistikes kataxwrhseis gia tis opoies plhrwsan bebaiws. Oydeis plhrwse gia na yparjei sygkekrimeno periexomeno s` ayto to afierwma. Opoies dapanes eginan, doqhkan gia diafhmistikes kataxwrhseis.

Epishs, prepei na pw oti ayth h efhmerida -kai exw ta antitypa sth diaqesh sas- kai meta apo ayto to afierwma, alla kai alles fores, exei anaferqei, me poly qetiko tropo, kai sthn Ellada kai ston ellhniko lao kai sthn prospaqeia poy kanei -an qelete- h kybernhsh kai sygkekrimena o Prwqypoyrgos. Einai prosfato to kyrio arqro to editorial ths efhmeridas ayths, poy anaferetai me poly epainetika logia sthn Ellada. Ara, loipon, einai adikh ayth h epiqesh, poly perissotero otan agnoei aytos o opoios egrace to sygkekrimeno qema sthn efhmerida sas, k. Stamatopoyle, aytes tis leptomereies stis opoies anaferqhka kai tis opoies mporw na epekteinw akomh perissotero, an ayto einai aparaithto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eseis o idios eipate oti diamartyrhqhkate. Eseis eipate oti htan atyxeis oi anafores kai oti diamartyrhqhke to Grafeio Typoy. Ti ftaiei h efhmerida, dhladh;

REPPAS: Shmera, leei, prwton, oti plhrwsame gi` ayto to dhmosieyma kai deyteron...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi organismoi poy anhkoyn, k. Ypoyrge; Den einai kratikoi;

REPPAS: Oi organismoi kanoyn diafhmistikes kataxwrhseis. Deyteron, den proxwrhsame se diafhmistikh kataxwrhsh, wste afenos na prepei na plhrwsoyme kai afeteroy (ej aytoy toy logoy, ths dapanhs dhladh sthn opoia ypoblhqhkame) na exoyme elegjei to periexomeno toy afierwmatos. Sas lew oti to periexomeno toy afierwmatos to opoio anaptyssetai se arketes selides, einai genika qetiko gia thn Ellada. Atyxeis einai aytes oi anafores, stis opoies anaferetai swsta kai h efhmerida sas kai tis opoies kai emeis epishmaname egkaira, me antidrash toy armodioy ypallhloy, toy Proistamenoy toy Grafeioy Typoy, sth Bonnh. Apo ekei kai pera, h sygkekrimenh efhmerida exei kanei qetikes anafores kat` epanalhch prin, alla kai meta apo ayto to afierwma sthn Ellada kai sthn prospaqeia poy kanei h xwra mas.

Epanalambanw oti den einai alhqes pws filojenhsame me ejoda mas kapoion, opws den einai alhqes oti plhrwsame xrhmata, prokeimenoy na ejasfalisoyme to dhmosieyma. Den elegxoyme to periexomeno aytwn twn afierwmatwn. Kaqe organismos einai eleyqeros na diafhmistei, an qewrei oti exei mia eykairia na probalei tis yphresies toy. Kai, bebaia, prepei na plhrwsei gi` ayto. Dwrean diafhmish den yparxei sta MME. To gnwrizete poly kala.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla apo poion phre entolh...

REPPAS: Kai prepei, epishs, na poyme, me aformh thn prospaqeia poy kanoyme gia thn anadeijh ths pragmatikhs eikonas ths sygxronhs Elladas ston kosmo, proxwroyme aytes tis hmeres -einai se ejelijh oi sxetikes diadikasies- se diagwnismo gia thn anaqesh toy ergoy se mia megalh etairia. Hdh, sto diagwnismo o opoios ginetai me anoixtes kai diafaneis diadikasies, exoyn proselqei epta ypochfioi kai exoyn kataqesei tis meletes toys, toys fakeloys twn ypochfiothtwn toys. Epitroph apo eidikoys empeirognwmones ypo thn proedria toy kaqhghtoy Marketingk kai Diafhmishs toy Oikonomikoy Panepisthmioy k. Aylwnith, qa krinei kai qa ajiologhsei toys fakeloys twn ypochfiwn kai qa katartisei ton pinaka, basei toy opoioy qa ginei h epilogh toy epikratesteroy.

Apo ekei kai pera, lypoymai giati blepw polla dhmosieymata na ginontai, ta opoia profanws ginontai meta apo parakinhsh h paraplhroforhsh poy didetai apo endiaferomenoys.

Lypoymai, giati enw h Ellada, epi twn hmerwn mas, gia prwth fora, kanei mia systhmatikh kai episthmonikh prospaqeia na probalei to pragmatiko proswpo ths ston kosmo, ayto antimetwpizetai me kaxypocia kai adikh kritikh. Lypoymai para poly.

Lene kapoioi: "thn wra poy exoyme litothta, dinoyme xrhmata gi` ayto to skopo". Ti ennooyn;

Otan exoyme problhma sta nosokomeia, ennooyn oti ola ta xrhmata prepei na ta dwsoyme sta nosokomeia; Na mhn kanoyme aqlhtika erga; Na mhn kanoyme erga anasthlwsewn ston tomea toy Politismoy. Na mhn kanoyme erga poy aforoyn akribws thn anadeijh toy pragmatikoy proswpoy ths Elladas se olo ton kosmo; Ayto panta problepotan. Apla, gia prwth fora twra, akoloyqoyme systhmatiko tropo kai kanoyme ereynes, wste na sthrizetai h prospaqeia mas ayth se episthmonika dedomena. Gia prwth fora ginetai ayto to ergo. Einai adikh ayth h kritikh kai lypoymai, giati polles fores kai oi dhmosiografoi, "elafra th kardia", paraplhroforoymenoi, metaferoyn ayta poy toys lene alloi, tritoi, oi opoioi exoyn bebaiws idioteleia, sta fylla h sta Mesa poy ergazontai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se poion anafereste, twra;

REPPAS: Genikws omilw, k. Stamatopoyle.

FILHS: O Arxiepiskopos Xristodoylos dhlwse oti sta Imia h Ellada ypesth mia eqnikh tapeinwsh. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: H krish sta Imia htan mia eqnikh krish, thn opoia h kybernhsh antimetwpise me synesh kai apofasistikothta. Kai telikws, ta apotelesmata ta opoia eixame, qa elega oti htan mallon qetika gia th xwra mas. H Toyrkia einai ekeinh h opoia eneplakh se mia peripeteia, apo thn opoia h idia den mporei na apemplakei, giati den to epiqymei. Kai brisketai apenanti sth Dieqnh Koinothta, h opoia thn kalei epaneilhmmena na ajiopoihsei tis diadikasies toy Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs kai h Toyrkia to apofeygei, deixnontas etsi, tis pragmatikes proqeseis ths. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws o Makariotatos eipe ayta ta opoia kai eseis epanalambanete. Den qa krinw ta osa eipe o Makariotatos. Ayto to opoio, omws, mporw me kathgorhmatiko tropo na pw kai na diabebaiwsw etsi, mesw ymwn kai ton ellhniko lao, einai toyto: Oti toso sta Imia, oso kai se opoiadhpote allh gwnia ths Elladas, h kybernhsh einai paroysa, proaspizetai ton eqniko xwro kai kanei ta panta, wste na antimetwpizontai me apotelesmatiko tropo oles oi amfisbhthseis. Kai pisteyw oti apotelesmatikos tropos einai na diasfalizeis thn akeraiothta toy xwroy soy, xwris na odhgei se opoiasdhpote morfhs peripeteies, oi opoies dia ths allhs odoy, apo thn "pisw porta", opws qa legame, se odhgoyn se syrriknwsh h se meiwsh kai ekptwsh twn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn soy.

H Ellada paramenei stis qeseis poy exei diatypwsei apo tote gia prwth fora, meta thn ekdhlwsh ayths ths krishs. Pisteyoyme oti exoyme dikaiwqei, akoloyqwntas ayth thn politikh. Kai en pash periptwsei, den dikaiologeitai opoiadhpote epiqesh h katafora enantion ths kybernhshs gia thn krish ekeinh. H kybernhsh ekane oti kalytero mporoyse na ginei.

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h topoqethsh toy Arxiepiskopoy exei enan eyqy, politiko, epikritiko xarakthra gia thn kybernhsh. To antilambaneste h oxi kai ti lete ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: Leme ayta ta opoia sas eipa.

FILHS: Oti exei dikaiwma na leei thn apoch toy o Arxiepiskopos;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti o Makariotatos, an prepei na dexqei erwthseis apo esas, qa tis dexqei apo esas. An prepei o idios na pei kati, to opoio qewrei oti einai swsto, ekeinos qa epilejei na to pei. Ayto to opoio exoyme na kanoyme emeis, den einai na miloyme gia ta diafora qemata, alla na askoyme sygkekrimenh politikh. Na efarmozoyme sygkekrimeno programma, wste na diasfalizoyme thn eqnikh anejarthsia kai ajioprepeia kai taytoxrona, na ejasfalizoyme thn proodo kai thn eyhmeria gia ton ellhniko lao.

Emeis omiloyme, loipon, me to ergo mas. Aytos einai o rolos ths kybernhshs. Kai einai enas rolos, ton opoio einai adynato na analabei h na diekperaiwsei opoiosdhpote allos. Giati thn ypoxrewsh ths apofashs kai ths ypografhs thn exoyn o Prwqypoyrgos kai oi ypoyrgoi. Ayth einai h alhqeia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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