Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-01-07

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Ianoyarioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Sas eyxomai kalh xronia, dhmioyrgikh kai gemath me epityxies.

* Ayth thn wra brisketai se ejelijh h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Makariotato Arxiepiskopo. Meta thn oloklhrwsh ths qa ginoyn dhlwseis.

* Qa akoloyqhsei syskech ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai symmetoxh armodiwn kybernhtikwn paragontwn gia qemata dasopyrosbeshs.

* Ayrio kai meqayrio, opws gnwrizete, qa diejaxqei h Synodos ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy PASOK kai ws ek toytoy den qa exoyme drasthriothta kybernhtikoy organoy.

* Thn Trith, 12 Ianoyarioy, o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sth Madrith, pragmatopoiwntas epishmh episkech, meta apo prosklhsh toy Ispanoy omologoy toy.

Ayta se poly genikes grammes. Qa hqela na akoysw tis erwthseis sas gia na epanelqoyme ston kanoniko kai omalo ryqmo ths kaqhmerinhs epikoinwnias mas.

KIAOS: Ti apanthsh dinei h Kybernhsh afenos sthn toyrkikh anakoinwsh gia to FIR Aqhnwn kai afeteroy sta tektainomena stis Bryjelles, sxetika me ton enaerio xwro, ta rantar, me aerodiadromoys poy den eginan, enw eprepe na ginoyn k. lp.

REPPAS: Qa kanw ena geniko sxolio: To qema ayto afora thn paroxh plhroforiwn pthsewn sthn perioxh toy Aigaioy. H perioxh ayth kalyptetai apo to FIR Aqhnwn. H Yphresia Politikhs Aeroporias einai armodia kai ypeyqynh na dinei plhrofories, basei twn opoiwn qa diejagontai me asfaleia oi pthseis ston enaerio xwro toy Aigaioy. H qesh poy ekfrasthke apo to toyrkiko Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn periexei abasimoys kai atekmhriwtoys isxyrismoys. Einai gemath apo anakribeies kai ws synhqws epixeirei na paraplanhsei thn koinh gnwmh, afoy diastreblwnei thn pragmatikothta. To FIR Aqhnwn sympiptei sta anatolika kai boreia synora me ta eqnika synora ths xwras mas. O elegxos poy askeitai apo tis armodies yphresies, askeitai ikanopoihtika, an lhfqei ypoch oti ton prohgoymeno xrono eixame th leitoyrgia toso toy palaioy systhmatos, oso kai toy neoy texnologika prohgmenoy systhmatos poy exei egkatastaqei kai syntomotata -einai qema poly ligoy xronoy- qa leitoyrgei pleon plhrws, gia na prosferei diplh kalych se olo to FIR Aqhnwn.

To antistoixo systhma to opoio exei qesei se leitoyrgia kai xrhsimopoiei h Toyrkia einai aparxaiwmeno, einai poly palaias texnologias. Shmera me to systhma ayto h Toyrkia den kalyptei kan tis dikes ths anagkes, to synolo dhladh toy FIR Kwnstantinoypolhs. Oi aitiaseis poy proballei, asfalws, den aforoyn ton enaerio elegxo. Antiqetws, fanerwnoyn tis politikes proqeseis ths Toyrkias gia mia allagh toy kaqestwtos, oson afora ton elegxo ths enaerias kykloforias sto Aigaio. H Toyrkia einai h teleytaia h opoia mporei na omilei gia to qema ayto, doqentos oti kat` epanalhch, me thn parabiash twn kanonwn enaerias kykloforias sto Aigaio, exei dhmioyrghsei kindynoys gia thn asfaleia twn pthsewn ths Politikhs Aeroporias sthn perioxh, pragma to opoio thn kaqista ypeyqynh gia th dhmioyrgia problhmatwn kai kaqe allo para dikaioytai, ws timhths, na kataggellei thn Ellada h ellhnikes yphresies oti dhqen den antapokrinontai stis ypoxrewseis toys, h idia de na prospaqei na emfanizetai oti symballei sthn antimetwpish aytoy toy problhmatos.

Mporw na anaferqw me leptomereies kai perissotera stoixeia ta opoia epibebaiwnoyn ayto to geniko plaisio sto opoio perioristhka. Ta stoixeia ayta martyroyn oti o xwros poy kalyptei to FIR Aqhnwn exei megalh toyristikh zhthsh, logw ths qeshs toy, alla kai logw ths oikonomikoterhs leitoyrgias poy prosferei otan xrhsimopoieitai gia tis pthseis aeroporikwn etaireiwn. Einai enas xwros o opoios exei poly fqhna telh yperpthsewn. Einai enas xwros o opoios ejaitias aytoy akribws toy logoy paroysiazei megalh kinhsh, idiaitera se orismenes periodoys. Ta pososta kaqysterhsewn ta opoia anaferontai den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia. Prepei na sas pw oti ta pososta kaqysterhsewn einai logika, an lhfqei ypoch ayth h idiomorfia sto xwro toy FIR Aqhnwn. Kai pantws, yparxoyn ta paradeigmata allwn xwrwn, opoy ta pososta kaqysterhsewn kinoyntai se analoga epipeda. Sthn Agglia to epipedo kaqysterhsewn brisketai sto 21% kai sth Gallia sto 14%. H Gallia kai h Agglia shmeiwnw, xrhsimopoioyn ena prohgmeno systhma enaerias kykloforias, san ayto to opoio ki emeis exoyme hdh qesei se leitoyrgia. Sth xwra mas to pososto twn kaqysterhsewn brisketai sto 17% gia to 1998. Kai ayto giati, opws sas eipa, leitoyrgoysan taytoxrona dyo systhmata: To palio gia epixeirhsiakoys logoys kai to kainoyrgio gia ekpaideytikoys logoys. Otan leitoyrghsei plhrws to kainoyrgio systhma kai monon ayto, qa prosferei diplh kalych.

Prepei na sas pw oti ayto to ypersygxrono, yperaytomatopoihmeno systhma enaerias kykloforias ths xwras mas, poy einai kai h teleytaia lejh ths texnologias, kalyptei kai ola ta geitonika FIR, mexri thn Agkyra, th Sofia, ta Skopia, ta Tirana, thn Italia, to Libyko pelagos kai thn Kypro. Opws exei anakoinwsei o epikefalhs ths YPA, ton epomeno mhna qa leitoyrghsei kanonika ayto to neo systhma. Pisteyoyme oti me thn oloklhrwsh toy programmatos ekpaideyshs twn xeiristwn toy systhmatos, ayto qa ginei katorqwto.

Epanalambanw oti to systhma poy xrhsimopoiei h Toyrkia einai monhs kalychs kai oxi diplhs kalychs, opws apaitei o ICAO kai en pash periptwsei den kalyptei kan thn perioxh toy FIR Kwnstantinoypolhs.

SOYRMELH: Ti qa pei diplhs kalychs;

REPPAS: Qa prepei kaqe perioxh na kalyptetai dyo fores gia logoys asfaleias. Na exoyme "diplh sarwsh kai epibebaiwsh", opws legetai xarakthristika sth sxetikh orologia.

Gia na oloklhrwsw, omws, to sxolio moy, qelw na pw oti ayto to qema, poy einai ena texniko yphresiako zhthma, qa eprepe na antimetwpistei s` ayto to epipedo. Lypoymaste poy h Toyrkia epeleje na prosdwsei politiko xarakthra s` ayto to qema. Den mas ekplhssei ayth h "prwtoboylia ths", doqentos oti kat` epanalhch efeyriskei qemata kai kataskeyazei problhmata, prokeimenoy na epibarynei tis dimereis sxeseis. An h diaqesh poy exeis, o prosanatolismos soy, h epilogh soy einai na ojyneis tis sxeseis me mia allh xwra, mporeis na to epityxeis poly eykola, me to na qeteis synexws nea problhmata, ta opoia esy kataskeyazeis, mono kai mono gia na ejyphrethseis tis politikes epidiwjeis soy. Tetoioy eidoys epidiwjeis den prokeitai na ginoyn dektes. Aporriptontai asyzhthti. To kaqestws, oson afora ton elegxo sto sygkekrimeno FIR, paramenei ayto poy isxyei mexri twra kai s' ayto pisteyoyme oti kai oi dieqneis organismoi einai apolyta symfwnoi. Ayto, allwste, prokyptei kai apo to gegonos oti den exei teqei opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh h sxetikh antidrash. Kalo einai, loipon, h Toyrkia na antimetwpisei ta problhmata poy thn apasxoloyn kai na apofeygei th dhmioyrgia newn problhmatwn, poy en pash periptwsei den apoteloyn kai ton kalytero dromo gia thn poreia ths idias ths Toyrkias sto plaisio ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas.

Ayto einai to sxolio poy hqela na kanw.

KIAOS: Anaferqhkate sthn idiomorfia toy FIR Aqhnwn. Ti ennoeite "idiomorfia";

REPPAS: Milhsa gia sygkekrimena stoixeia poy xarakthrizoyn to FIR Aqhnwn. Gnwrizete poly kala oti aytos o enaerios xwros brisketai se mia perioxh apo thn opoia dierxontai polla aeroplana. H enaeria kykloforia ths xwras mas dexetai mia kinhsh aeroskafwn yperpollaplasia, se sygkrish me tis alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, me bash ton plhqysmo ths kaqe mias xwras.

KIAOS: Ayto ennoeite "idiomorfia"; Wraia, loipon.

REPPAS: Bebaiws. Ayta ta aeroplana kateyqynontai se polloys proorismoys. Ayto to FIR einai poly pio "elkystiko", gia logoys poy exoyn sxesh me thn oikonomia kai thn asfaleia twn pthsewn, giati einai poly fqhnotera ta telh twn yperpthsewn, alla kai to kostos sta aerodromia ths xwras gia ta aeroplana poy ta xrhsimopoioyn kai sth synexeia petoyn sto FIR Aqhnwn. Kaqe FIR, opws kai to diko mas, exei ta idiaitera stoixeia toy. Ayta ta idiaitera stoixeia aforoyn to FIR Aqhnwn.

KIAOS: Pote qa proxwrhsei h Ellada stoys neoys aerodiadromoys kai ti qa ginei;

REPPAS: Ayta ta qemata exoyn syzhthqei. Oi aerodiadromoi oi opoioi xrhsimopoioyntai shmera einai aytoi poy gnwrizete. Kai prepei na sas pw oti opoiadhpote allagh ginetai pantote me th symfwnia toy dieqnoys organismoy, toy ICAO, me thn antistoixh yphresia ths kaqe xwras. Oydepote mexri twra exei ginei allagh, xwris na symfwnei h armodia yphresia kaqe kratoys. Ara, loipon, den dikaiologeitai opoiosdhpote problhmatismos gia dhqen kindynoys, oi opoioi prokyptoyn apo mia tetoia stash apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias.

Epanalambanw oti h Toyrkia kataskeyazei ena qema gia eynohtoys logoys...

KIAOS: Anejarthtws ths Toyrkias rwtw egw.

REPPAS: Synexizetai to idio kaqestws. Qa synexisoyn na xrhsimopoioyntai oi aerodiadromoi poy kai shmera xrhsimopoioyntai. Den exei prokycei otidhpote allo se sxesh me to qema ayto. Opoio qema apasxolei ton ICAO, to syzhta me thn antistoixh yphresia, opws kai opoio qema apasxolei thn YPA to qetei ypoch toy dieqnoys organismoy kai otan oi dyo pleyres symfwnoyn, tote mporei na prokycoyn kai allages.

KIAOS: To neo rantar pote qa egkatastaqei;

REPPAS: Ta nea rantar exoyn egkatastaqei kai xrhsimopoioyntai ayth thn wra gia ekpaideytikoys skopoys. Otan oloklhrwqei aytos o kyklos ekpaideyshs, qa xrhsimopoihqoyn pleon kai gia epixeirhsiakoys skopoys. Kai eipame oti ayto anamenetai na ginei entos toy erxomenoy Febroyarioy. To anakoinwse o idios o epikefalhs ths YPA poy gnwrizei kai ta leptomerh stoixeia.

KIAOS: Poies einai oi apanthseis poy dinei h Kybernhsh ston ICAO, sthn IATA sta sygkekrimena pleon qemata poy tiqentai apo aytoys toys organismoys;

REPPAS: Den exoyn teqei qemata ta opoia dhmioyrgoyn amfisbhthseis gia ton elegxo sto FIR Aqhnwn. Ara den yparxoyn kai oi sxetikes apanthseis poy zhtate me th dikh sas erwthsh. Bebaiws, yparxei dialogos gia ola ayta ta qemata, epeidh toso h YPA, oso kai o dieqnhs organismos epiqymoyn na diejagontai kanonika oi pthseis sthn perioxh me th megisth dynath asfaleia. Ayta ta qemata briskontai pantote sthn epikairothta. Pantote syzhtoyntai kai prepei na syzhtoyntai kai pantws ayth h syzhthsh den prepei na odhgei kapoioys sto na bgazoyn symperasmata peri endexomenhs allaghs toy kaqestwtos sto sygkekrimeno enaerio xwro, sto FIR Aqhnwn.

KARASABBA: Mia dieykrinish parakalw: To FIR Aqhnwn giati na kalyptei to FIR Kwnstantinoypolews h Libyhs;

REPPAS: Anaferqhkame aplws sth -logw prohgmenhs texnologias- dynatothta poy exei ayto to systhma to opoio exei egkatastaqei. Den shmainei oti qa xrhsimopoihqei gia epixeirhsiakoys logoys to neo ayto texnologika prohgmeno systhma, wste na elegjoyme thn enaeria kykloforia sto FIR Kwnstantinoypolhs h se FIR allwn xwrwn.

KARASABBA: Alla;

REPPAS: Den antilambanomai thn erwthsh sas.

KARASABBA: Den to katalabainw ki egw...

REPPAS: Kaqe systhma elegxoy enaerias kykloforias -opws antilambaneste- exei ena orismeno belhnekes, megalytero h mikrotero, analogws twn dynatothtwn toy. Ta oria kaqe xwras einai idiaitera kai jexwrista. Den exoyme na kanoyme me krath poy kaqena ap` ayta einai enas sygkekrimenos kyklos, o opoios na sympiptei me ta oria embeleias ths dynatothtas parakoloyqhshs ths enaerias kykloforias apo to sygkekrimeno systhma. Ara, loipon, to systhma to opoio einai egkatesthmeno sthn Aqhna, exei mia orismenh embeleia, h opoia kalyptei ayth thn eyryterh perioxh. Einai qema dynatothtas toy systhmatos kai den exei kamia sxesh h dynatothta ayth me thn askhsh toy elegxoy sthn enaeria kykloforia se geitonika FIR.

KARASABBA: Den qa eixe problhma h Ellada an yphrxe ena antistoixo systhma eite sthn Kwnstantinoypolh h stis gyrw perioxes, alla kalypte kai to Libyko kai to FIR Aqhnwn;

REPPAS: Den prokeitai peri oplikoy systhmatos! Prokeitai peri enos systhmatos to opoio elegxei thn enaeria kykloforia, syllegei kai prosferei plhrofories oson afora tis pthseis ths Politikhs Aeroporias. An h Toyrkia proxwrhsei -opws exei proxwrhsei h Ellada- sthn promhqeia kai egkatastash meta apo kapoia xronia enos analogoy systhmatos, einai dynato to systhma ayto, an einai prohgmeno texnologika, na exei ikanothta kalychs mias poly eyryterhs perioxhs. Den shmainei, omws, ayto oti ena tetoio systhma xrhsimopoieitai epixeirhsiaka, prokeimenoy na elegjei thn kykloforia ston enaerio xwro enos alloy FIR.

T. MPERMERAKHS: Mia dieykrinish: Anaferate oti prokeitai peri texnikoy yphresiakoy systhmatos kai gi` aytoys toys logoys aporriptontai kai oi aitiaseis oi toyrkikes. Yparxei kapoia allagh stis qeseis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, giati palaiotera, apo oti egw gnwrizw, to FIR Aqhnwn den xarakthrizotan texnikh yphresiakh ypoqesh.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti gia to qema ayto exoyn doqei kat` epanalhch apanthseis, exoyn aposafhnistei ta qemata. Apla leme oti sympiptei to orio toy FIR Aqhnwn na einai to orio twn synorwn ths xwras mas, anatolika kai boreia. Einai mia symptwsh. Den symbainei se oles tis periptwseis. Ayto den anairei th qesh, oti sto Aigaio yparxei dieqnhs enaerios xwros h dieqnh qalassia ydata. Ti sxesh exei to ena me to allo; Kai to FIR Kwnstantinoypolhs, opws kai alla FIR elegxoyn thn kykloforia twn pthsewn se perioxes poy den anhkoyn sthn eqnikh kyriarxia enos sygkekrimenoy kratoys, alla einai dieqneis.

Panta ginotan ayto kai panta ginetai. H politikh toy elegxoy twn pthsewn poy akoloyqeitai sth sygkekrimenh perioxh, einai gnwsth edw kai para polles dekaeties, konta pente dekaeties isxyei ayto to kaqestws kai den prokeitai na allajei.

KIAOS: Giati tosa xronia den eixe proxwrhsei ston katallhlo ejoplismo h ellhnikh pleyra kai poy ofeilontai oles aytes oi dysleitoyrgies;

REPPAS: Ta systhmata ayta einai kainoyrgias texnologias, den yparxoyn edw kai para polla xronia. Den einai kai para polles oi xwres poy xrhsimopoioyn ayta ta systhmata, ta opoia emeis hdh promhqeythkame, exoyme egkatasthsei kai syntoma qa xrhsimopoihsoyme kai epixeirhsiaka...

KIAOS: Giati ayto den egine nwritera;

REPPAS: Egine to syntomotero dynato. Kai prepei na sas pw, gia na eimaste eilikrineis, oti h sxetikh kaqysterhsh prepei na anazhthqei se polloys logoys, metajy twn opoiwn kai se nootropies syntexniakes diaforwn omadwn poy den qeloyn na analaboyn kaqhkonta diaxeirishs aytwn twn newn systhmatwn, giati qewroyn oti afaireitai ena shmantiko antikeimeno apo aytoys. Exoyme tetoioy eidoys antidraseis apo diafores syntexnies se polloys tomeis. Kai sto sygkekrimeno tomea, qa elega oti oi ypallhloi ths armodias yphresias den edeijan thn pio ypeyqynh stash. Qa mporoyse, pragmati, to systhma ayto na eixe mia poly kalyterh tyxh, na eixe egkatastaqei kai na xrhsimopoieitai, hdh, epixeirhsiaka.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, estalh sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn mia epistolh apo th Dhmokratia twn Skopiwn, me thn opoia zhteitai na mesolabhsei h Ellada sthn E. E. gia na ginontai oi emporikes symfwnies kai oi metafores toys me to onoma "Dhmokratia ths Makedonias". Ti apantaei h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Oti h qesh ths Elladas gia ta sygkekrimena qemata exei aposafhnistei plhrws. Gnwrizete th syzhthsh poy kaname prin apo tis eortes, oson afora to sxetiko qema gia ton kwdiko, dhladh, poy qa xrhsimopoiei h geitonikh xwra sthn allhlografia poy diakineitai apo kai pros aythn. Apo ekei kai pera h ellhnikh kybernhsh to qema ths onomasias to antimetwpizei sto plaisio twn diadikasiwn poy ejelissontai ypo thn aigida toy OHE kai den eimaste diateqeimenoi me plagioys tropoys na apodexqoyme opoiadhpote tetelesmena. Me ayth thn ennoia, loipon, den yfistatai opoiodhpote qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H epistolh hrqe meta, an exete ypoch sas...

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw an exei stalei h epistolh. Sas lew poia einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Polles epistoles erxontai kai feygoyn apo thn Ellada. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs. H qesh ths kybernhshs einai ayth poy sas aneptyja molis prin kai gnwrizete poia einai h antidrash twn armodiwn yphresiwn toy ellhnikoy kratoys sto qema poy proekyce prosfata, oson afora ton kwdiko poy qa xrhsimopoiei h sygkekrimenh xwra gia th diakinhsh ths allhlografias ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei apanthsei to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Parakalw gia perissoteres leptomereies apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den jerete, dhladh.

REPPAS: Asfalws, den gnwrizw poies epistoles stelnontai kaqe hmera se kaqe ypoyrgeio, den einai dynato na to gnwrizw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas eipa den einai mia tyxaia epistolh.

REPPAS: Kalws. Ayth einai h dikh sas gnwmh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei dei kai to fws ths dhmosiothtas kai den sas exei apasxolhsei.

REPPAS: Den apasxolhse esas, epi toses hmeres poy, opws lete, exei dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas, afoy den apeyqynqhkate sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn gia na parete apanthsh. Giati den apeyqynqhkate sto YPEJ gia na parete mia apanthsh;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw edw apeyqynomai, den apeyqynomai sto YPEJ.

REPPAS: Ekeinoi oi opoioi endiaferontai na plhroforhqoyn sxetika me qemata poy ta qewroyn toso poly shmantika, mporoyn na exoyn amesws apanthseis, qetontas ta analoga erwthmata armodiws.

ALEJAKH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mhpws yparxei kamia ejelijh sto qema twn S-300; Yparxei kati kainoyrgio apo ellhnikhs pleyras poy mporeite na mas peite; Kai anaferomai sto poy qa egkatastaqoyn oi pyrayloi, ejakoloyqei na isxyei to senario ths Krhths, yparxei kati kainoyrgio;

REPPAS: Exoyn ginei leptomereis anakoinwseis apo thn kypriakh kai thn ellhnikh kybernhsh. Oi qeseis oi opoies anaferontai stis anakoinwseis aytes, ekfrazoyn th boylhsh mas, alla kai thn politikh h opoia qa tyxei apolyths efarmoghs.

ALEJAKH: Kai...;

REPPAS: Ti "kai"; Den einai apokalyptikes kai safeis oi qeseis aytes;

ALEJAKH: H qesh ths kypriakhs kybernhshs leei oti den qa egkatastaqoyn kai oti qa pane sthn Krhth piqanotata. Ayto, toylaxiston, nomizw. Kai apo ellhnikhs pleyras; Qa yparjei ejelijh; Qa pane sthn Krhth; Qa synedriasei h Boylh h kapoio symboylio;

REPPAS: Den exei symfwnhsei me th qesh ayth h ellhnikh kybernhsh; Asfalws kai exei symfwnhsei. Ayta einai gnwsta. Na qewreite oti einai dedomenh h qesh ayth poy apotelei koinh qesh ths Kyproy kai ths Elladas.

ALEJAKH: Dhladh, einai dedomeno oti oi pyrayloi qa pane sthn Krhth;

REPPAS: Exoyme apanthsei gi` ayto to qema. Opws akribws o Proedros Klhridhs me leptomereia anefere tis qeseis toy, qeseis me tis opoies symfwnhse me dhlwsh toy o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos, etsi akribws na perimenete na ejelixqoyn kai ta gegonota.

KIAOS: Exei kleisei to qema;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayth thn wra h kypriakh kybernhsh syzhta me thn allh pleyra, sthn opoia exei paraggeilei to opliko systhma. H politikh qesh einai ayth, to pyrayliko ayto systhma na egkatastaqei sthn Krhth. Ayth einai h kateyqynsh, ayth einai h qesh kai qa tyxei efarmoghs, alla qa prepei na syzhthqoyn oi leptomereies.

FASOYLAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h Aqhna ti apantaei stis epikriseis twn kypriakwn kommatwn kai eidika ston prwhn Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Kyprianoy, o opoios dhlwse ki aytos oti den yfistatai pleon dogma.

REPPAS: Einai isws prwth fora poy me toso xarakthristiko kai sygkekrimeno tropo h Ellada, peran ths ekfrashs ths boylhshs ths na staqei dipla sthn Kypro, steketai sthn prajh dipla sthn Kypro. Gnwrizete oti ta teleytaia xronia exoyn diejaxqei koina stratiwtika gymnasia Elladas-Kyproy. Gnwrizete oti h Ellada einai ayth h opoia prwtostatei sthn prospaqeia poy kanei h Kypriakh Dhmokratia gia thn entajh ths sthn E. E., pragma to opoio pisteyoyme oti qa apoferei terastia politika kai diplwmatika ofelh kai pleonekthmata sthn Kypro. Ki etsi, emmesws mporei na pei kaneis, enisxyei kai thn amyna ths Kyproy.

Emeis, oson afora thn amyna ths Kyproy, den prokeitai na kanoyme opoiadhpote ekptwsh! Alla, den qa ypokycoyme kai se opoiondhpote peirasmo kai prokeimenoy na fanoyme arestoi se kapoioys, na dhmioyrghsoyme anepanorqwth zhmia sto eqniko zhthma. Qeloyme na enisxysoyme thn amyna ths Kyproy kai ola -kai to qema twn S-300- prepei na ta syzhtoyme se synarthsh me to kyrio zhthma, poy einai h amyna ths Kyproy. H amyna ths Kyproy enisxyetai, otan einai bebaio oti h Ellada einai sto pleyro ths Kyproy. Kai h Ellada einai sto pleyro ths Kyproy. Gi` ayto petoyn ellhnika maxhtika aeroskafh sthn Kypro, pragma poy den synebaine palaiotera. H Ellada einai sto pleyro ths Kyproy. Gi` ayto dinoyme th maxh gia thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E. E. me oti synepagetai ayto kai gnwrizete poia einai ta ofelh mias tetoias ejelijhs. H Ellada einai sto pleyro ths Kyproy. Giati dwsame mia maxh, poly shmantikh, wste na yparxoyn ayta ta chfismata toy OHE, me th symplhrwmatikh anafora sthn anagkh meiwshs ths entashs kai twn ejoplismwn, sthn kateyqynsh dhladh ths apostratikopoihshs, kati poy epiqymei h kypriakh pleyra. Ola ayta, loipon, den einai amelhtea kai den prepei na parablepontai.

H apanthsh poy dinei h ellhnikh kybernhsh sta kypriaka kommata einai oti sebetai tis apoceis toys. Alla, h ellhnikh kybernhsh den qa kanei to paramikro, to opoio qa qesei se amfibolia h se kindyno thn arragh enothta, to eniaio metwpo Elladas kai Kyproy. Ayth einai h qesh mas. Kai parakalw oloys, otan topoqetoyntai, ayth th basikh skech na exoyn ws afethria twn topoqethsewn toys.

BITALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, milhsate pali gia to qema ths apostratikopoihshs. Erwtw, meta thn apofash gia toys S-300, me poioys oroys diapragmateyontai h Aqhna kai h Leykwsia to qema ths apostratikopoihshs; Kai an skeptetai h ellhnikh pleyra na zhthsei pleon kapoies poly sygkekrimenes desmeyseis, pera apo tis dhlwseis toy k. Mpler kai toy k. Klinton, poly sygkekrimenes desmeyseis...

REPPAS: Opws; Gia dwste moy ena paradeigma.

TSAFOS: Syggnwmh, na symplhrwsw: Ejarta h Ellada pleon th mh egkatastash twn S-300 sthn Krhth apo thn apostratikopoihsh toy boreioy katexomenoy tmhmatos ths Kyproy, opws eixe pei o k. Klhridhs palaiotera kai meiwnontai synexws oi apaithseis toy; Apo ti ejarta h Ellada th mh egkatastash twn S-300 sthn Krhth;

REPPAS: Oson afora to qema ths egkatastashs twn S-300 sthn Krhth, apanthsa. H qesh ayth isxyei, paramenei, den allazei. Oson afora th stash mas genikotera sto qema ths apostratikopoihshs ths Kyproy, gnwrizete oti h kypriakh kybernhsh exei analabei tis sxetikes prwtoboylies. Dystyxws, yparxei h arnhtikh stash ths Toyrkias. Kai h stash ayth pisteyoyme oti epibarynei th qesh ths. Den exei symbalei wste na yparxei apotelesma s` ayto ton tomea. Pisteyoyme oti sto plaisio anabaqmishs toy endiaferontos ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas gia to Kypriako, h prosqhkh ayth sto sygkekrimeno chfisma toy S. A. toy OHE poy anaferetai kai sta qemata twn ejoplismwn, ths entashs, ths asfaleias kai ths apostratikopoihshs, einai ena para poly qetiko stoixeio. Qewroyme oti einai mia epityxia. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, emeis den eimaste h pleyra ekeinh poy epiqymei thn antiparaqesh. Eimaste h pleyra ekeinh poy epiqymei thn anazhthsh, mesw ths politikhs kai ths diplwmatikhs odoy, lysh sto kypriako qema. Kai pisteyoyme oti oi kinhseis poy kanoyme exoyn enisxysei thn politikh kai diplwmatikh qesh ths Kyproy sthn prospaqeia ayth poy kataballetai me ena entonotero endiaferon kata thn teleytaia periodo, apo to dieqnh paragonta.

Ola ayta, prepei na ta ajiopoihsoyme, gia na fqasoyme epiteloys sth lysh enos problhmatos poy ekkremei edw kai para polla xronia. Polles proseggiseis eginan, h alhqeia einai oti meta apo peripoy 25 xronia, to Kypriako paramenei alyto. Qa prepei, loipon, na deijoyme fantasia, tolmh, ikanothta, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme, epiteloys, lysh s` ayto to problhma. Pisteyoyme oti h kypriakh kybernhsh, alla kai h kybernhsh ths Elladas, exei deijei s` ayto ton tomea oti kai idees exei kai prwtoboylies pairnei, wste na anabaqmisei to kypriako zhthma.

KIAOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an apokleiete to endexomeno na odeysoyn, na egkatastaqoyn se allo nhsi oi S-300.

REPPAS: Einai kati poy den exei apasxolhsei kai den apasxolei kanenan.

KIAOS: Pws skeftetai h Kybernhsh na teleiwsei h nea ojynsh toy dramatos poy legetai Olympiakh Aeroporia. Ti qa kanete me thn Olympiakh, me toys xeiristes;

REPPAS: Emeis epiqymoyme thn oloklhrwsh efarmoghs toy programmatos ejygianshs gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia. Eixe epityxei na beltiwsei th qesh ths h Olympiakh Aeroporia. Dystyxws, ta akaira kai ejw apo kaqe logikh aithmata, ta opoia qetoyn oi pilotoi, dhmioyrgoyn terastioys kindynoys gia thn prooptikh toy eqnikoy aerometaforea. Apo to Septembrh toy '98 h Dioikhsh ths epixeirhshs exei synergastei me egkyro dieqnh oiko, prokeimenoy na anazhthqoyn, mesw diafanwn diadikasiwn, strathgikoi symmaxoi gia thn O. A. Qa prospaqhsoyme na enteinoyme kai na epitaxynoyme ayth th diadikasia, prokeimenoy to syntomotero dynato h O. A. na anhkei mazi me alloys se mia strathgikhs shmasias symmaxia, gia na antimetwpisei ta problhmata ths. Exw th gnwmh oti den einai dynaton -kaqe kalopistos poliths symfwnei se ayto- na ginontai dekta aithmata poy odhgoyn oysiastika se ayjhsh twn apodoxwn twn pilotwn se pososto 35% kata meso oro. Aithmata ta opoia den problepontai sto programma ejygianshs, to opoio exei chfistei kai efarmozetai. Kata ta alla h O. A., me ta opoia problhmata antimetwpizei, qa synexisei na prosferei tis yphresies ths, mesw twn adelfwn etaireiwn. Peran twn sygxwneysewn se orismena dromologia poy exoyn mikrh kinhsh, prepei na sas pw oti oi Makedonikes Aerogrammes kai h Aeroploia -poy exoyn analabei dromologia, ta opoia den diejagei h Olympiakh me to diko ths stolo- einai epixeirhseis ta kerdh twn opoiwn oysiastika epanerxontai sto tameio ths O. A. Ayto ws sxolio-apanthsh sta osa legontai peri syrriknwshs ths drasthriothtas ths O. A. Den prokeitai peri aytoy. Kata ta alla, pisteyoyme oti qa prepei na synaisqanqoyn kai na analaboyn tis eyqynes toys oloi kai oi pilotoi idiaiterws na skeftontai me bash to synoliko symferon, poly perissotero afoy den qigetai to diko toys symferon.

KIAOS: Afoy to programma ejygianshs fainetai oti den proxwrei, ti prokeitai na kanei h Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Eipa se mia apostrofh ths apanthshs moy oti prepei na entaqei kata th gnwmh mas h anazhthsh twn strathgikwn symmaxwn, wste to syntomotero dynaton h O. A. na entaxqei se mia tetoia oikogeneia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei xronodiagramma; Giati mexri pote qa anazhteitai o strathgikos symmaxos poy lete; Giati anazhteitai xronia.

REPPAS: Lete oti ton anazhtoyme xronia. Den ton anazhtoyme xronia. Eipa oti to Septembrh toy '98 anateqhke se megalh jenh etaireia, poy eidikeyetai sto antikeimeno ayto h anazhthsh strathgikwn symmaxwn gia thn Olympiakh. Den ton anazhtoyme xronia. Einai qema ligoy xronoy. Giati to programma ejygianshs ths Olympiakhs efarmozetai edw kai peripoy ena xrono. Oxi parapanw. Loipon, h prospaqeia ayth poy ginetai, einai para poly shmantikh, einai kairia kai pisteyoyme oti qa epityxei. Alla, gia na epityxei, den prepei na ekdhlwnontai aytes oi yponomeyseis. Poly perissotero apo ergazomenoys poy exoyn mia neyralgikh qesh sthn O. A., opws einai oi pilotoi. Ta aithmata ta opoia qetoyn einai ejwpragmatika, einai pera apo kaqe logikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Allo rwtaw. Kai aytoi to idio lene, olo anazhteitai kai den brisketai. Poso qa parei, dhladh;

REPPAS: Den anazhteitai para mono gia ligoys mhnes. Kai pisteyoyme oti den qa einai polloi oi mhnes akomh poy qa xreiastoyn, prokeimenoy me epityxia na oloklhrwsei to ergo toy o oikos me ton opoio synergazetai h Olympiakh, wste sth synexeia na labei tis sxetikes apofaseis h dioikhsh ths.

SOYRMELH: Qa hqela na kanw dyo erwthseis. H mia einai gia toys S-300, an arxise h kybernhsh synomilies me th rwsikh pleyra, dioti ypotiqetai oti h rwsikh pleyra qa apofasisei. An arxisan, loipon, oi krisimes aytes synomilies poy elegan oi Rwsoi. H deyterh einai gia thn Olympiakh. Lete oti zhtane 35% ayjhsh. Oi idioi otan toys rwtas, lene oti qeloyn na kanoyn 9 hmeres "repo" to mhna, opws exoyn th dynatothta apo toys dieqneis organismoys. Kai me thn katastash ayth 6-7 meres mono, mporoyn na kanoyn. Ki ayto shmainei oti h Olympiakh, ton perasmeno xrono, ekane tis pthseis ths xrhsimopoiwntas kata 35% tis wres "repo" twn pilotwn ths. Apo poy einai 35% ayjhsh poy zhtane;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete pio einai to synolo twn aithmatwn poy exoyn kataqesei;

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Oxi.

REPPAS: Den gnwrizete. Sas lew, loipon, oti metajy twn allwn, zhtoyn oxi aplws na ameibetai h yperergasia toys parapanw apo thn kanonikh ergasia, alla zhtoyn na ameibetai sto diplasio. Zhtoyn h forologhsh toys na meinei sto 12,5% kai oxi sto 15%, opws problepei to programma ejygianshs. Kai ayto thn wra poy alloi polites forologoyntai se pososto 30% h 40%. Zhtoyn na diathrhqoyn ta pronomia gia syggeneis toys, prokeimenoy na exoyn th dynatothta na tajideyoyn me eisithria xwris antitimo. Ola ayta ta aithmata -mporw na anaferqw kai se alla- symposoyntai se mia ayjhsh, an ginoyn dekta, poy fqanei sto ycos toy 35%. Pisteyw oti einai kati to opoio den einai logiko, den mporei na ginei dekto kai en pash periptwsei einai ejw apo tis dynatothtes ths O. A. Einai ejw kai apo to programma gia thn ejygiansh ths etairias poy apofasisthke kai exei teqei se efarmogh.

SOYRMELH: Aytoi zhtoyn neoys pilotoys. Lene oti einai 423 twra oi pilotoi sthn Olympiakh kai oti kanonika qa eprepe na einai 589, symfwna me ayta poy elege to programma ejygianshs. Lene epishs -kai me sygxwreite...

REPPAS: An qelete leptomereies, egw eimai sth diaqesh sas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Oxi.

REPPAS: Epeidh blepw na ginontai sxolia apo synadelfoys sas poy qeloyn stoixeia, qa prepei na sas pw oti, oson afora to qema twn pilotwn, otan zhthqhke apo thn O. A., to 1996, h proslhch 35 pilotwn, doqhke h egkrish kai proslhfqhkan 35 neoi pilotoi. Ypoblhqhke aithma ek neoy, ton perasmeno Dekembrh, gia thn proslhch 45 pilotwn sthn O. A. Exei egkriqei. Lypoymaste, giati den eixan diapistwqei poly pio prin oi anagkes gia thn proslhch newn pilotwn sthn O. A. To aithma ayto ypoblhqhke molis ton perasmeno Dekembrh. Hdh, exei doqei egkrish kai mesw diagwnistikhs diadikasias, qa ginei proslhch twn 45 newn pilotwn sthn O. A. Ayto einai to qema.

Oson afora ayto poy eqesan oi synadelfoi sas -an kalws katalaba to nohma twn sxoliwn poy kanate- sas lew toyto: Oti, enw eixe doqei egkrish gia 35 pilotoys sthn O. A., afoy 35 pilotoi eixe zhthqei tote na proslhfqoyn, ayqaireta estalhsan gia ekpaideysh h proepilexqhkan synolika, an qymoymai kala, 78 pilotoi. Proslhfqhkan oi 35. Apaithqhke apo thn pleyra twn pilotwn na proslhfqoyn akomh 23 poy kriqhkan katallhloi. Oi perissoteroi apo aytoys anhkoyn ston oikogeneiako kyklo twn en energeia pilotwn ths O. A.. Eipwqhke apo thn kybernhsh pws to aithma gia thn proslhch 35 pilotwn ikanopoihqhke kai oti efoson tiqetai neo aithma gia proslhch newn pilotwn, qa proxwrhsoyme sthn proslhch allwn 45 pilotwn, me tis diagwnistikes diadikasies poy problepontai s` aytes tis periptwseis. Hdh, doqhke h egkrish kai qa proxwrhsei h sxetikh diagwnistikh diadikasia.

SOYRMELH: Kai gia th Rwsia kai toys S-300;

REPPAS: Den qa apofasisei h Rwsia. Sas eipa oti ayth thn wra eimaste sto stadio poy h kypriakh kybernhsh syzhta ta sxetika qemata, tis texnikes kai alles leptomereies, me th Rwsia sthn opoia exei dwsei th sxetikh paraggelia.

KARASABBA: Mia dieykrinish gia toys pyrayloys. H Ellada qa epwmistei meros toy kostoys...

REPPAS: Oi pyrayloi aytoi paramenoyn sthn kyriothta ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, h opoia, me thn paraggelia gia thn promhqeia kai egkatastash toys, exei analabei kai to kostos.

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