Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-10-13

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 13 Oktwbrioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TO GENIKO GRAMMATEA ENHMERWSHS GIANNH NIKOLAOY

Geia sas. Prin mpoyme sth gnwsth diadikasia twn erwthsewn sas, epitrecte moy na kanw ena sxolio poy afora sth stash poy epideiknyei, tis hmeres aytes, to komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs, h Nea Dhmokratia. To brady twn eklogwn, alla kai sth synexeia, polla stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias exoyn anaferqei se "rapisma" pros thn Kybernhsh, se "xastoyki" pros thn Kybernhsh, se "skampili" pros thn Kybernhsh. Fantazomai den exoyn efeyrei akoma allo prosdiorismo twn "xtyphmatwn". Taytoxrona, oi ypochfioi nomarxes kai dhmarxoi poy yposthrizei h N. D., emfanizontai ws plhrws akommatistoi kai kaloyn to lao kaqe perioxhs na toys chfisei, epeidh endiaferontai -ypotiqetai- gia to symferon ths polhs toys. Edw, loipon, nomizw oti mporei na shmeiwsei kaneis mia baqytath ypokrisia ths N. D. poy sxetizetai me to nohma ths chfoy twn politwn s` aytes tis ekloges, kai ston prwto kai sto deytero gyro. Oi men ypochfioi ths kaloyn toys polites na sthrijoyn yperkommatika, ypotiqetai, chfodeltia, h de hgesia ths epixeirei to mhnyma ayths ths chfoy na to metatrecei, opws ekeinh leei, se "skampilia, xastoykia kai rapismata".

Pisteyoyme oti h N. D. prospaqei na streblwsei to nohma aytwn twn eklogwn kai epixeirei na dhmioyrghsei ena klima amfisbhthshs ths politikhs ths Kybernhshs, alla kai ths staqerhs mexri shmera poreias ths xwras. Emeis exoyme epishmanei oti stis ekloges aytes krinontai nomarxes, dhmarxoi, programmata, stoxoi kai epidiwjeis poy aforoyn sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh. To politiko mhnyma poy asfalws yparxei, den sxetizetai me th synolikh kritikh kai ektimhsh ths poreias ths Kybernhshs poy, opws polles fores exoyme pei, qa ginei, otan teleiwsei h tetraetia to 2000. Pisteyoyme oti oi polites den qa parasyrqoyn kai den qa jegelastoyn apo thn ypokritikh stash ths hgesias ths N. D., h opoia einai bebaio, oti epixeirei shmera na emfanistei ws "agaqo probato" enwpion twn politwn. Einai piqanon, omws, pisw apo to "agaqo probato" na elloxeyei panta o "kakos lykos". Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KIAOS: Mia dieykrinish: Anafereste mono se stelexh ths h kai ston arxhgo ths N. D. ;

NIKOLAOY: O arxhgos ths N. D. to brady twn eklogwn eipe oti yphrje ena isxyro rapisma pros thn Kybernhsh. Kai malista kalese toys polites, th deyterh Kyriakh, na dwsoyn ena akoma isxyrotero rapisma, kat` ayton.

KIAOS: Dhladh, o "kakos lykos" einai o k. Karamanlhs, praktika;

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Gelia.

NIKOLAOY: Egw milhsa gia thn politikh ypokrisia ths N. D., h opoia shmera emfanizetai -ypotiqetai- ws oydeterh, yperkommatikh kai aytodioikhtikh se o, ti afora to proswpo poy emfanizoyn oi ypochfioi nomarxes kai dhmarxoi, enw epwnyma stelexh ths -toy arxhgoy ths mh ejairoymenoy- kaloyn toys polites na dwsoyn mhnymata, rapismata, xastoykia kai skampilia.

MIXAHL: Katarxhn, eipate, oti thn frash "epixeirei h hgesia ths N. D. na dhmioyrghsei ena klima amfisbhthshs ths politikhs ths Kybernhshs". Ayto giati na einai arnhtiko; Komma antipoliteyshs einai kai qa sas amfisbhthsei gi` ayto poy kanete.

NIKOLAOY: Exei kaqe dikaiwma h N. D. na amfisbhtei thn Kybernhsh kai na kanei thn kritikh ths kai na exei opoia gnwmh qelei gia thn Kybernhsh. Dikaiwma ths einai. Ayto poy eipa egw einai to ejhs: Oti, me aformh thn chfo kai epi nomarxwn kai dhmarxwn -ypotiqetai akommatistwn h yperkommatikwn- ayth thn chfo epixeirei na emfanisei ws amfisbhthsh ths poreias ths xwras mexri shmera. Enw stis nomarxiakes kai dhmotikes ekloges oi polites kaloyntai na chfisoyn ypochfioys nomarxes, dhmarxoys, dhmotika, nomarxiaka programmata kai ergo gia osoys ypochfioys htan kai mexri shmera en energeia.

MIXAHL: Syggnwmh, kyrie Ekproswpe, gia na mporesw na katalabw. Katarxhn, den exei kaqe politikos sxhmatismos s` ayth th xwra to dikaiwma ths epiloghs toy tropoy amfisbhthshs h kritikhs apenanti se kapoion allon; Dialeje h N. D., loipon, thn chfo aythn ths perasmenhs Kyriakhs. To mempto den mporw na katanohsw poy brisketai. Ektos ki an eseis den amfisbhteite ayto to dikaiwma ths N. D., alla amfisbhteite ton tropo me ton opoio to kanei.

NIKOLAOY: H N. D. exei dikaiwma na kanei o, ti ekeinh pisteyei oti prepei na kanei. Kai oloi krinomaste apo ta erga mas. Egw, apanthsa shmera kai eqesa th dikh mas stash gyrw apo aytes tis ekloges. Einai ekloges gia thn Aytodioikhsh. H Kybernhsh toy PASOK einai ayth poy exei proxwrhsei stis tomes gia thn Aytodioikhsh kai exei diasfalisei to rolo ths Aytodioikhshs mexri shmera kai asfalws qa einai kai ayrio poly megalyteros kai poly sobaroteros. Kai bebaiws, oi polites exoyn kaqe logo na strafoyn qetika se ekeinoys poy einai yper ths Aytodioikhshs kai den prospaqoyn na ekmetalleytoyn thn Aytodioikhsh gia alloys skopoys.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti h hgesia ths N. D. deixnei ena proswpo "agaqoy probatoy" poy piqanon pisw toy na krybetai enas "kakos lykos". O k. Abramopoylos gia paradeigma;

NIKOLAOY: O k. Abramopoylos anhkei sthn hgesia ths N. D. ;

MIXAHL: O idios dhlwnei oti einai sto idio komma.

NIKOLAOY: O k. Abramopoylos den anhkei sthn hgesia ths N. D. kai malista exei kataqesei kai thn kommatikh toy taytothta. Ara, den anaferomai ston k. Abramopoylo, gia na ginw pio safhs.

MIXAHL: Kai o "kakos lykos", poios einai;

NIKOLAOY: Apanthsa. Ekane kai o k. Kiaos thn idia erwthsh kai apanthsa.

SOYGLERHS: Dyo hmeres meta thn prwth Kyriakh twn dhmotikwn kai nomarxiakwn eklogwn, mporei na mas pei h Kybernhsh poies einai oi aities ths eklogikhs httas ths.

NIKOLAOY: Kat' arxhn, opws eipame kai xqes, analytika, edw -kai opws epishma exei dhlwsei kai o Grammateas toy Kommatos k. Skandalidhs sth synenteyjh poy paraxwrhse xqes kai parakoloyqhsan synadelfoi sas- den yphrxe htta gia thn Kybernhsh, gia to PASOK, giati den krinetai h Kybernhsh. Kai gia na to pw akoma akribestera, den yphrxe htta gia toys ypochfioys toys opoioys yposthrize to PASOK. Exoyme, opws eipame kai prin, pollapla mhnymata apo aytes tis ekloges, ta opoia xrhzoyn idiaiterhs analyshs kai idiaiterwn proseggisewn. Ayta, opws eipame kai xqes, me hremia kai nhfaliothta qa ektimhqoyn. Bebaiws, emeis speysame na dhlwsoyme oti opws kaqe eklogikh diadikasia etsi kai ayth h eklogikh diadikasia, emperiexei kai politika mhnymata ta opoia qa analysoyme. Alla, opws eipame kai xqes, kai mporw na epanalabw kai na anaferw kai alla paradeigmata shmera, exoyme diaforetikes periptwseis opoy oi ypochfioi poy sthrizontai apo ola ta kommata exoyn megalh apostash, qetikh h arnhtikh, apo to antistoixo pososto twn kommatwn stis teleytaies eqnikes ekloges h apo to antistoixo pososto twn yposthrixqentwn apo ta idia kommata ypochfiwn nomarxwn kai dhmarxwn stis ekloges toy '94. Kai sas anefera xqes orismena paradeigmata, opws p. x. h Kozanh h kai alles perioxes. Epeidh loipon kapoioi, prospaqwntas na ermhneysoyn poio einai ayto to mhnyma, kataskeyazoyn diafora senaria kai o kaqenas kataqetei thn apoch toy -qemito bebaiws- qa prepei kaneis na proseggisei me idiaiterh prosoxh ayto to mhnyma, lambanontas ypoch gia paradeigma, oti exoyme perioxes apo aytes poy xarakthrizontai laikes synoikies ths Aqhnas, opoy oi ypochfioi toy PASOK yperchfisthkan kai malista me para poly megala pososta. Sas anefera xqes th Nikaia, sas anefera to Nomarxh ths Dytikhs Aqhnas, mporoyme na poyme gia to dhmarxo twn Liosiwn, o opoios phre pososto 75%. Ekei, giati den katadikasthke h politikh ths kybernhshs; Ti mporei na pei h N. D. otan exase gia paradeigma th Nomarxia kai to Dhmo ths Kozanhs; Ekei katadikasthke h politikh ths N. D. ; Ti mporei na pei h N. D., otan o k. Papagewrgopoylos phre 10 monades katw apo to pososto poy eixe sygkentrwsei o k. Kosmopoylos sth Qessalonikh stis prohgoymenes dhmotikes ekloges; Katadikasthke ekei h politikh ths N. D. ; To idio isxyei kai gia to Synaspismo kai to K. K. E. Mporoyme na poyme apeira tetoia paradeigmata. Qelw na pw, loipon, oti oi nomarxiakes kai dhmotikes ekloges eixan entono to proswpiko stoixeio. Kai asfalws mesa stis chfoys twn politwn emperiexotan h epidokimasia h h apodokimasia twn ypochfiwn nomarxwn h dhmarxwn.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mhpws ayth h apanthsh sas se politiko epipedo einai mia anwrimh ektimhsh gia thn Kybernhsh;

NIKOLAOY: H Kybernhsh den kanei pote anwrimes ektimhseis.

SOYGLERHS: Ektimw oti thn Kyriakh eidan alla ta matia mas, alla akoysame.

NIKOLAOY: Kala, eseis mporei na ektimate o, ti qelete, dikaiwma sas. Emeis prepei na ektimoyme ayto poy blepoyme. Exoyme ta apotelesmata mprosta mas kai sas kalw na janamelethsete toys xartes twn apotelesmatwn gia na diapistwsete oti ayta poy leme emeis einai swsta.

ARGYROS: Fainetai oti o k. Tsoxatzopoylos den symfwnei me tis dikes sas ektimhseis. Ekeinos milhse gia ptwsh toy PASOK kai gia anodo ths N. D.

NIKOLAOY: Epeidh jerw akribws ti eipe o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, sas diabebaiw oti kai ekeinos symfwnei mazi moy kai egw mazi toy.

KIAOS: Kai sthn ektimhsh oti plhsiazoyn ta dyo kommata;

NIKOLAOY: Den katalabainw thn erwthsh sas. Ti shmainei "plhsiazoyn";

MOYRTHS: Oi synadelfoi ennooyn oti ta dyo kommata, -ths N. D. poy exei mia kapoia anodo kai toy PASOK poy paroysiazei mia kapoia ypoxwrhsh- plhsiazoyn se o, ti afora thn ekproswphsh toys sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh. Symfwneite s' ayto;

NIKOLAOY: Den qa mpoyme twra se leptomerh analysh, symfwnw h diafwnw me tis sygkekrimenes paragrafoys twn dhlwsewn twn stelexwn toy PASOK. Ayto poy mporw na pw egw -kai epanalambanw- einai oti ayta poy eipe o k. Tsoxatzopoylos einai swsta. Symfwnei me ayta poy lew egw kai egw symfwnw me ayta poy eipe ekeinos.

SOYGLERHS: Sthn allh ektimhsh toy k. Tzoymaka, oti "kybernhtiko komma eimaste kai xasame. Ti perimenate dhladh; Na kerdisoyme me oloys toys alloys apenanti mas kai me tosa eswterika problhmata poy exoyme", qa hqela to sxolio sas.

NIKOLAOY: Den exw ayth th dhlwsh mprosta moy.

SOYGLERHS: Thn ekane se radiofwniko staqmo.

NIKOLAOY: Den thn exw mprosta moy, lypamai. Den mporw na sxoliasw dhlwsh poy den thn exw mprosta moy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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