Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-09-22

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Septembrioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Gnwrizete oti to brady pragmatopoieitai h anoikth sygkentrwsh sthn Kalliqea, opoy qa ekfwnhsei logo o Prwqypoyrgos. Qa exei th dynatothta na anaferqei sto kybernhtiko ergo poy exei epitelestei ayta ta dyo xronia kai na prodiagracei thn poreia ths Kybernhshs kai ths xwras, gia ta epomena dyo xronia. Qa anaferqei stis proteraiothtes ths Kybernhshs, sxetika me toys megaloys stoxoys ths ejwterikhs kai eswterikhs politikhs. Gia thn entajh ths xwras stis eyrwpaikes diadikasies kai thn ONE, gia thn anaptyjh, th diasfalish ths eyhmerias toy Ellhnikoy Laoy kai thn koinwnikh synoxh. O Prwqypoyrgos qa kalesei oles tis dynameis, oxi monon toy Kinhmatos, alla oles tis koinwnikes dynameis, na systrateyqoyn s` ayth thn prospaqeia, h opoia einai mia eqnikh prospaqeia, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme aytoys toys megaloys stoxoys.

SOYGLERHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia th skopimothta ayths ths prwths anoikths sygkentrwshs, ayto to xrono poy pragmatopoieitai.

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos -milhsa molis prin gi` ayto- ekrine oti me th symplhrwsh twn dyo xronwn einai h wra na milhsei gia to kybernhtiko ergo ths dietias poy perase kai na anaferqei sto kybernhtiko ergo opws to exoyme programmatisei -kai elpizoyme na to feroyme se peras me epityxia- gia ta epomena dyo xronia. Einai mia ap` eyqeias epikoinwnia toy laoy, twn politwn, me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths xwras. Mas epanaferei, isws, sta protypa palaioterwn epoxwn. Nomizw, omws, oti ayth h epikoinwnia pantote diathrei thn idiaiterh ajia kai to nohma ths kai gi` ayto prepei na xrhsimopoieitai ws meqodos, para to oti exoyme polla alla mesa sth diaqesh mas shmera, gia na epikoinwnoyme, na diatypwnoyme kai na gnwstopoioyme tis apoceis mas.

KARBOYNH: H Kybernhsh pws ajiologei tis kinhseis, gia th nea taytothta ths Kentroaristeras, twn Klinton, Mpler kai Pronti;

REPPAS: Exei anaptyxqei dieqnws enas problhmatismos, metajy twn hgetwn twn sosialistikwn kai proodeytikwn kommatwn. Ginetai mia prospaqeia na dhmioyrghqei mia nea dieqnhs synergasia, h opoia qa einai eyryterh apo th Sosialistikh Dieqnh. Oi problhmatismoi aytoi poy anaptyssontai, briskontai se antistoixia me tis ejelijeis sthn pagkosmia politikh skhnh. Tis parakoloyqoyme me endiaferon. Gnwrizete oti emeis, etsi ki alliws, exoyme mia shmantikh symmetoxh se tetoies dieqneis synergasies, eite einai h Sosialistikh Dieqnhs, eite einai h Enwsh twn Sosialistikwn Kommatwn ths Eyrwphs. Apo ekei kai pera, kaqe ti to opoio proagei ton politiko problhmatismo, bohqaei thn ejelijh ths ideologias kai thn anazhthsh twn tropwn me toys opoioys qa antapokriqoyme stis apaithseis twn kairwn. Me ayth thn ennoia, pisteyoyme oti den mporei para na xairetistei ws qetiko gegonos.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, pws sxoliazete tis qeseis poy ejefrasan Gallia, Italia, Ispania, oson afora sto qema ths entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E. E., opoy sthn oysia torpilizoyn tis ejelijeis, tonizontas oti qa prepei prwta na lyqei to Kypriako kai meta na proxwrhsoyn oi entajiakes prospaqeies gia thn Kypro.

REPPAS: Den exei diatypwqei epishmws kamia tetoia qesh apo tis kybernhseis twn sygkekrimenwn xwrwn. Oyte exei gnwstopoihqei se mas mia tetoia politikh epilogh. Ayto to opoio moy dinete th dynatothta, me thn eykairia ths erwthshs sas, na pw, einai safes kai einai toyto: Oi Synodoi Koryfhs toy Loyjemboyrgoy kai metepeita toy Karntif exoyn orisei to plaisio, metajy twn allwn, kai gia thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E. E. To plaisio ayto den einai dynaton na diarragei. An kapoioi epiqymoyn mia allh poreia qa prepei na qesoyn th qesh toys ayth epishmws sta organa ths E. E. kai na lhfqoyn apofaseis. Ayto kai praktika den einai efikto, alla kai politika den einai orqo, kata th dikh mas apoch. Giati den einai dynaton, emeis oi opoioi epiqymoyme epiteloys na breqei lysh gia to politiko problhma ths Kyproy, na eimaste aytoi oi opoioi qa plhrwsoyme kai to timhma ths mh ejeyreshs lyshs, logw, akribws, ths arnhtikhs kai adiallakths stashs poy krata h Toyrkia. Den qa prepei, loipon, aytos o opoios epiqymei thn proodo, sthn kateyqynsh ths anazhthshs lyshs toy Kypriakoy qematos, epeidh den yparxei lysh, para to oti to epiqymei kai to prospaqei, na einai aytos o opoios qa plhrwsei kai kapoio timhma. Ki aytos o opoios me th stash toy dynamitizei kaqe prospaqeia gia thn ejeyresh lyshs, na einai aytos o opoios telika qa eisprajei thn ikanopoihsh oti kai alles xwres symfwnoyn me th dikh toy qesh. Ayta einai paraloga, einai adika, den einai dynaton na isxysoyn kai den pisteyoyme oti epishmws, sto plaisio ths E. E., qa diatypwqoyn apo kybernhseis tetoies qeseis.

ROYMPANHS: Epeidh paroysiazetai mia kinhtikothta gyrw apo ta ellhnotoyrkika, opws gia paradeigma oi epafes toy k. Mhtsotakh k. a., qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an exei kapoio mhnyma h ellhnikh Kybernhsh apo thn Agkyra gia kapoia allagh stashs; Exoyme kati kainoyrgio;

REPPAS: Den exoyme opoiodhpote mhnyma kai den einai dynato na sxoliasoyme tis qeseis poy ejefrase o k. Gilmaz ston k. Mhtsotakh, prin gnwrisoyme poies einai aytes. Ayth thn wra einai se ejelijh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Mhtsotakh. O k. Mhtsotakhs qa probei se dhlwseis. Etsi, qa exoyme ki emeis th dynatothta na ajiologhsoyme ayta ta opoia eipe o k. Gilmaz ston k. Mhtsotakh. Elpizoyme na perikleioyn kati qetiko, giati oi mexri twra dhlwseis kai h stash toy k. Gilmaz den epitrepoyn aisiodojia opoiasdhpote morfhs, oyte kan th mikroterh aisiodojia.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, thn Paraskeyh mas eipate oti h Kybernhsh den gnwrize...

REPPAS: Apanthsa, xqes, s` ayto.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Gi` ayto, akribws, qelw na sas rwthsw. Thn Paraskeyh mas eipate oti h Kybernhsh den gnwrizei an qa exei synanthsh o k. Mhtsotakhs me ton k. Gilmaz. Mhpws yparxei kanena problhma;

REPPAS: Den yparxei, apolytws, kanena problhma. O k. Mhtsotakhs, sto plaisio enos koinwnikoy gegonotos, tajidece sthn Kwnstantinoypolh. Me thn eykairia ayth, logw kai ths sxeshs poy exei, ths filias kai ths gnwrimias poy exei me ton k. Gilmaz, eixe mia synanthsh. To periexomeno ayths ths syzhthshs me ton k. Gilmaz, qelei na to katasthsei gnwsto kai ston Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo. Gi` ayto ginetai, ayth thn wra, h episkech toy ston Prwqypoyrgo kai h syzhthsh twn dyo andrwn.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Syggnwmh, den mporesa na oloklhrwsw thn erwthsh. Thn Paraskeyh mas eipate oti h Kybernhsh den gnwrizei gia synanthsh toy k. Mhtsotakh me ton k. Gilmaz kai xqes...

REPPAS: Gia na dhlwsw oti h synanthsh ayth den einai synanthsh h opoia exei opoiadhpote sxesh me kapoion kybernhtiko programmatismo. Einai synanthsh idiwtikh enos politikoy paragonta ths xwras, toy k. Mhtsotakh. O k. Mhtsotakhs, bebaiws, logw ths gnwrimias poy exei, ekane ayth th synanthsh. Apo ekei kai pera epeleje o k. Mhtsotakhs na enhmerwsei ton Prwqypoyrgo episkeptomenos to Megaro Majimoy.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, syggnwmh, alla me diakoptete kai den mporw na oloklhrwsw thn erwthsh moy. Thn Paraskeyh mas eipate oti den gnwrize h Kybernhsh gia epikeimenh synanthsh Mhtsotakh-Gilmaz, enw xqes eipate oti o k. Mhtsotakhs enhmerwse protoy paei sthn Kwnstantinoypolh, gi' ayth th synanthsh. Kata th gnwmh sas, yparxei kapoio problhma stis apanthseis poy exete dwsei;

REPPAS: Kanena apolytws problhma. Apanthsa prin s' ayto. Den eixe nohma na syzhthsoyme peraiterw ena qema, to opoio den apotelei antikeimeno kybernhtikoy programmatismoy.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h Kybernhsh exei apoch gia olo ayto to "sooy" poy parakoloyqhse o planhths, xqes to apogeyma;

REPPAS: Den einai orqo na kaleite thn Kybernhsh na diatypwsei mia politikh qesh epi toy qematos aytoy. Egw, omws, mporw na kanw ena sxolio, den qa apofygw ton peirasmo. Kai qa pw oti to qema ths hqikhs sthn politikh, prwtistws sxetizetai me thn ajioprepeia twn lawn kai to sebasmo twn politwn. Exw th gnwmh oti syxna oi hqikologoi den exoyn aisqhmata, den exoyn arxes kai den exoyn fragmoys. Telikws, einai anhqikoi. Gnwrizete poly kala ti symbainei stis HPA. Pisteyw oti h hqikh sthn politikh einai kati poly eyrytero, me periexomeno poly pio ploysio kai shmantiko, eite apo thn "tragikh kwmwdia", eite apo thn "kwmikh tragwdia", poy ejelissetai aytes tis meres stis HPA. O amerikanikos laos exei kanei thn epilogh toy. O Proedros Klinton exei chfistei apo ton amerikaniko lao. Tis apofaseis tis pairnei o amerikanikos laos. Oydeis mporei na ypokatasthsei ton amerikaniko lao.

SOYGLERHS: Xqes, ston thleoptiko staqmo SKAI, o Proedros ths N. D. k. Kwstas Karamanlhs mesa se ola ta alla -qa staqw se dyo shmeia- eipe oti h paratash toy bioy ths Kybernhshs sas zhmiwnei ton topo. Kai oti stis nomarxiakes kai dhmotikes ekloges h N. D. qa einai o megalos nikhths. Qa hqela na moy peite an symfwneite h diafwneite kai to sxolio sas epi twn ektimhsewn toy k. Karamanlh.

REPPAS: H aisiodojia einai ena qetiko stoixeio sthn politikh. O k. Karamanlhs, fainetai, oti peran twn oswn pollwn arnhtikwn diaqetei, exei kai kati qetiko: thn aisiodojia, h opoia akomh kai otan den einai dikaiologhmenh, einai qetiko na yparxei. Sthn politikh kalo einai na einai kaneis aisiodojos, alla kalytero einai na einai realisths. Stoixeiwdhs realismos qa ypodeiknye ston k. Karamanlh, oti h Kybernhsh, me to programma to opoio efarmozei, exei katorqwsei shmantika epiteygmata ta opoia anagnwrizei o ellhnikos laos, o opoios, otan kai pali erqei h wra, qa epidokimasei thn politikh ths Kybernhshs. Kai etsi den qa epitrecei ston k. Karamanlh na metatrecei ayth thn aisiodojia toy -h opoia tote qa apodeixtei peritrana oti einai xwris periexomeno- se pragmatikothta.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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