Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-09-11

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Septembrioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase shmera to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Qema ths synedriashs htan h Balkanikh politikh. Gnwrizete oti gia to qema ayto eixame synedriasei kai prin, peripoy, ena xrono. Oson afora th synergasia me tis alles balkanikes xwres, diapistwnetai mia shmantikh proodos, h opoia exei syntelestei se oles tis perioxes drashs ths Kybernhshs. Exoyn analhfqei politikes prwtoboylies gia th staqerothta kai thn eirhnh sthn perioxh. Ypegrafh to Symfwno Filias kai synergasias me thn Albania. Anaferomai s'ayth th sygkekrimenh prajh, epeidh pragmatika apetelese -h ypografh ayths ths Synqhkhs- thn arxh mias neas periodoy stis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn. Exoyn analhfqei prwtoboylies ston politistiko tomea. Yparxoyn drasthriothtes oi opoies einai poikiles kai synexeis. Kai bebaiws, idiaitera ayjhmenh einai h synergasia ston oikonomiko kai emporiko tomea. H Ellada yphrje enas poly kalos oikonomikos symparastaths twn geitonikwn xwrwn, otan xreiasthke. Kai sto plaisio ths amoibaias wfeleias kai ths isotimhs synergasias, brisketai se mia poly kalh -prowqhmenh se sxesh me alles xwres ths E.E. - emporikh synergasia me tis geitonikes xwres. Oi deiktes einai olo kai pio eynoikoi kai martyroyn thn proodo sth sxesh ths Elladas me tis balkanikes xwres ston emporiko kai oikonomiko tomea. H prospaqeia ths Kybernhshs qa synexistei sthn idia kateyqynsh. Den qelw na mpw twra se leptomereies. Ekane kapoia dhlwsh o k. Pagkalos. Qa eimai sth diaqesh sas -an qelete gia epimeroys qemata- na sas enhmerwsw.

Prin th syzhthsh toy qematos ths hmerhsias diatajhs o Prwqypoyrgos ekane kapoies politikes epishmanseis:

* Eipe oti kleinei enas dieths kyklos apo thn eklogikh anametrhsh toy 1996. O apologismos toy kybernhtikoy ergoy einai qetikos. Se oloys toys tomeis exoyme apotelesmata, ta opoia mas ikanopoioyn. Ayto, omws, ypagoreyei se oloys mas thn eyqynh kai to xreos na enteinoyme thn prospaqeia mas, wste sth dietia poy akoloyqei ews to 2000, oloklhrwnontas thn efarmogh toy programmatos mas na diekdikhsoyme kai pali thn empistosynh toy ellhnikoy laoy.

* Anaferqhke stis diarqrwtikes allages stis opoies proxwra h Kybernhsh gia ton eksygxronismo ths oikonomias kai ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Opws, epishs, tis poly epityxeis epiloges kai ta shmantika bhmata poy kaname, prokeimenoy na proseggisoyme to megalo stoxo gia thn entajh ths xwras sthn ONE.

* Ypogrammise thn anagkh na enteinoyme, akomh perissotero, thn prospaqeia kai na beltiwsoyme ta apotelesmata ths kybernhtikhs politikhs, oson afora thn epilysh problhmatwn poy antimetwpizei sthn kaqhmerinh zwh toy o poliths.

* Epishmane thn anagkh, na ginei to kratos pio apotelesmatiko kai parallhla, na anadeijoyme akomh perissotero ton koinwniko xarakthra toy, ajiopoiwntas tis politikes prwtoboylies ths Kybernhshs kai diasfalizontas thn koinwnikh synoxh.

* Se ena allo shmeio twn epishmansewn toy, milhse gia thn anagkh h Kybernhsh, oi Ypoyrgoi, na briskontai se stenh epafh kai me thn Perifereia, toys polites poy zoyn sthn ellhnikh eparxia. Na symballoyn sthn antimetwpish kai lysh twn problhmatwn poy toys apasxoloyn kai na anadeiknyoyn to ergo ths Kybernhshs, enhmerwnontas toys polites kai taytoxrona kanontas tis kalyteres epiloges, afoy epitopoy mporoyn na gnwrizoyn kalytera pws exoyn ta qemata.

* Anaferqhke sthn eperxomenh eklogikh anametrhsh kai eipe oti bebaiws, einai safes to politiko mhnyma, to opoio panta periexetai se tetoioy eidoys eklogikes anametrhseis. Oles oi ekloges, allwste, exoyn kai ena politiko mhnyma. Oi ekloges einai gia thn Aytodioikhsh. O xwros ths Aytodioikhshs einai pronomiakos gia to PASOK. Xwros ston opoio opoies qesmikes h diarqrwtikes allages exoyn epiteyxqei, epiteyxqhkan meta apo nomoqetikes kai politikes prwtoboylies poy anelaban oi Kybernhseis toy PASOK.

* Tonise oti h Kybernhsh qa synexisei to ergo ths atalanteyto, prokeimenoy sto plaisio -poy apotelei kai ayto mia katakthsh- ths oikonomikhs kai politikhs staqerothtas, na ejasfalisoyme kalyteres synqhkes zwhs gia toys Ellhnes polites.

* Milhse kai pali gia thn anagkh na eimaste oloi energws parontes stis ejelijeis. Me to ergo mas na symbaloyme, wste na apodeixqoyme ajioi ths empistosynhs toy laoy. Kai ejefrase thn aisiodojia toy oti h epomenh dietia qa einai to idio apotelesmatikh, qetikh, opws kai h dietia poy parhlqe.

* Anaferqhke se shmeia toy programmatos toy ews ta Xristoygenna, se ekdhlwseis, stis opoies o idios qa labei meros. Opws:

-Sthn ekdhlwsh poy qa labei xwra sthn Kalliqea, stis 22 Septembrioy, opoy qa ekfwnhsei logo.
-Se periodeia poy qa kanei sto telos Septembrioy sto Nomo Aitwloakarnanias.
-Sth synanthsh poy qa exei me toys hgetes ths Roymanias kai ths Boylgarias, sto plaisio ths balkanikhs synergasias stis arxes Oktwbrioy stoys Delfoys.
-Sth Balkanikh Diaskech ths Attaleias sthn opoia qa labei meros.
-Se episkeceis poy programmatizontai, entos twn epomenwn mhnwn, sthn Polwnia kai thn Ispania. Kai se diafores alles drasthriothtes tis opoies paraleipw na anaferw ayth thn wra.

Menw s'ayta kai eimai sth diaqesh sas. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke kai stis dhlwseis poy kanoyn oi Ypoyrgoi kai sygkekrimena afhse na ennohqei oti oi dhlwseis poy kanoyn oi kyrioi Tsoxatzopoylos, Pagkalos, Giannopoylos, allazoyn thn eikona ths Kybernhshs; Eipe kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Kamia apolytws tetoia anafora den egine. O Prwqypoyrgos oyte kan xrhsimopoihse th frash "dhlwseis Ypoyrgwn h stelexwn". O Prwqypoyrgos den anaferqhke se ayta ta qemata. Milhse gia th diaxeirish, poy polles fores ginetai, apo toys mhxanismoys enhmerwshs, drasthriothtwn poy aptontai ths kaqhmerinothtas ths zwhs olwn mas, me enan tetoio tropo, o opoios polles fores epikalyptei ta prwteyonta kai shmantika qemata. Eipe o Prwqypoyrgos oti, emeis qa prepei me thn energh paroysia mas -milhsa gi ayto allwste kai prin- na eimaste synexws parontes, wste h koinh gnwmh, o ellhnikos laos na exei enan qetiko prosanatolismo. Na gnwrizei, dhladh, poia einai ta shmantika kai na mhn epikalyptontai ta shmantika apo ta deytereyonta, opws gia logoys epikairothtas, poly syxna, ginetai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ti ennoeite "mhxanismoys enhmerwshs"; Dhladh, poioi einai aytoi oi mhxanismoi poy exei entopisei o Prwqypoyrgos...

REPPAS: Eseis oi idioi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Emeis;

REPPAS: Eseis, poy, polles fores qemata ta opoia exoyn poly mikrh shmasia ta proballete poly perissotero apo shmantika gegonota h qemata, ta opoia kaqorizoyn th zwh twn politwn. Gnwrizete pws leitoyrgoyn ta MME. Oloi exoyme mia tetoia empeiria. Mporei na synedriazei ena kybernhtiko organo, to KYSEA fer eipein, gia na labei mia apofash, sxetika me to ejoplistiko programma ths xwras kai na apotelesei prwth eidhsh sto deltio eidhsewn h ejomologhsh enos sympolith mas poy einai "transejoyal" h ta MME na strefoyn to endiaferon toys perissotero sto gamo kapoiwn allwn sympolitwn mas, enw thn idia hmera mporei na exei lhfqei mia poly shmantikh apofash gia ena qema poy afora allages sto ekpaideytiko systhma ths xwras. Ayto den einai mia empeiria poy thn exoyme oloi; Giati sas kanei entypwsh;

KIAOS: Me sygxwreite, arxisyntakths qa ginei o Prwqypoyrgos, dhladh;

REPPAS: Asfalws, oxi. Alla o Prwqypoyrgos, opws o opoiosdhpote allos poliths, exei dikaiwma na diatypwnei ayth thn apoch, thn opoia diatypwnw ki egw eyqews kai eyqarsws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, ti prepei, na mas dinei kaqe mera kapoio xarti o Prwqypoyrgos, gia na grafoyme ayta...

REPPAS: Ayto katalabate k. Stamatopoyle;

STAMATOPOYLOS: ...gia na einai ikanopoihmenos, gia na mh mas brizei dhladh; Ayto qelete na mas peite;

REPPAS: Den sas ebrise kaneis. H Kybernhsh, o Prwqypoyrgos ki egw proswpikws ektimoyme to ergo sas. Alla, qa moy epitrecete na pw, opws kaqe allos poliths, oti zw ki egw se ayth th xwra. Den eimai ektos ayths ths xwras. Lypoymai poy fainetai oti para polloi apo esas, enw eiste se MME, den qelete na dexqeite oti einai mia pragmatikothta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, milhse gia "mhxanismo". Mhxanismos einai mia periergh lejh.

REPPAS: Den einai kaqoloy periergh lejh. Qelete na xrhsimopoihsw kapoia allh lejh; Mesa Enhmerwshs, oi leitoyrgoi twn MME, oi anqrwpoi twn MME;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, "metexoyn se enan mhxanismo" lete. Se "mhxanismo";

REPPAS: Kalws, kalws k. Stamatopoyle. Gnwrizete para poly kala ti einai ayto to opoio eipa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti na gnwrizw; Ton "mhxanismo";

REPPAS: Den gnwrizete poly kala, to eipate eseis, den exw antirrhsh. Alla, en pash periptwsei, einai mia pragmatikothta, ths opoias oloi eimaste martyres.

PAPPA: Se ayto to plaisio poy perigracate, o Prwqypoyrgos den eipe oti qa prepei na apofeygontai sxolia se anqrwpino kai proswpiko epipedo poy apoprosanatolizoyn; Den eipe o Prwqypoyrgos kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Molis twra ayto den eipa; Oti polles fores o tropos me ton opoio proballontai ta qemata, otan yparxei, bebaiws, to prwtogenes yliko, einai tetoios o opoios adikei ta prwteyonta kai shmantika.

KONTOPOYLOS: Yphrje kapoia antiparaqesh metajy toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn kai ths Ypoyrgoy Anaptyjh;. Eipe kati h ka Papandreoy ston k. Pagkalo;

REPPAS: Den yphrje apolytws kamia antiparaqesh. Otan miloysame gia tis diodoys ths xwras, o k. Pagkalos poy ekane kai thn eishghsh eipe oti qa prepei h eikona stis eisodoys ths xwras na einai poly kalyterh. Na einai h eikona mias eyrwpaikhs xwras. Kai ayto shmera den symbainei. Prepei na antimetwpisoyme ena qema. To qema ths leitoyrgias ekei pollwn yphresiwn. Qa prepei, epiteloys, kapoios na exei to logo ths dioikhshs olwn aytwn twn yphresiwn. H epilogh poy kanei h Kybernhsh, einai to rolo ayto na ton analaboyn oi G.G. ths Perifereias, se kaqe Perifereia ths xwras poy synoreyei me geitonikes xwres, opoy yparxoyn eisodoi. Kai, bebaia, yparxoyn kai oi yphresies toy EOT. H ka Papandreoy eipe oti symfwnei apolytws o EOT na ypaxqei s'ayth thn eniaia Dioikhsh. O Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn argotera eipe -mias kai anafereste se ayto to qema- oti qa analhfqei tis epomenes hmeres, nomoqetikh prwtoboylia kai qa lyqei ayto to qema. Den yphrje opoiadhpote allh antiparaqesh.

KONTOPOYLOS: Den ths eipe, dhladh, oti to grafeio toy EOT ston Promaxwna einai brwmiko, oti o idios to brhke kleisto, oti eleipe o ypallhlos k.lp.;

REPPAS: O k. Pagkalos eipe oti yparxoyn ktiria ta opoia anhkoyn ston EOT kai ta opoia, kata th dikh toy empeiria, den xrhsimopoioyntai panta. H ka Papandreoy eipe oti oi paragontes, oi ypallhloi toy EOT, xrhsimopoioyn ta grafeia ws bash h ws ormhthrio gia na askhsoyn ta kaqhkonta toys. Kai to qema odhghqhke sthn telikh qesh na metabibastoyn ola ayta stis Genikes Grammateies twn Perifereiwn, pragma to opoio, opws sas eipa, nomoqeteitai tis epomenes hmeres.

ELENOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish. Prin eipate oti anaferqhke o Prwqypoyrgos ston tropo poy oi mhxanismoi ths Enhmerwshs diaxeirizontai kapoia problhmata. Katopin, apantwntas sthn ka Pappa eipate oti bebaiws, eipe ayto o Prwqypoyrgos. Oti, dhladh, na apofeygontai apo stelexh ths Kybernhshs sxolia proswpikoy h anqrwpinoy xarakthra. Ti apo ta dyo telika isxyei;

REPPAS: Den eipa ayto. Eipa oti o Prwqypoyrgos ekane mia anafora sto oti polles fores gegonota ta opoia einai mikrhs shmasias, anadeiknyontai ws gegonota megalhs shmasias. Kai epikalyptoyn ta shmantika. Ayto eipa.

ELENOPOYLOS: Apo ta Mesa, oxi apo ta stelexh, dhladh.

REPPAS: Htan mia poly genikh anafora toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Egw edwsa mia ektash -an qelete- anaferontas kai paradeigmata, ta opoia apoteloyn koinh empeiria olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn. Apo kei kai pera o Prwqypoyrgos htan poly safhs se ayto poy eipe. Milhse poly syntoma. Metajy olwn twn allwn poy eipe, ekane ki ayth thn epishmansh. Tipota allo.

LIARELHS: Epeidh den katalaba, gia ton Prwqypoyrgo to problhma poio einai; H anadeijh kapoiwn gegonotwn opoy -kata ton Prwqypoyrgo- h eyqynh anhkei sta MME kai stoys mhxanismoys toys -opws toys eipate- h to problhma afora aytoys poy dhmioyrgoyn ayta ta deytereyonta gegonota, poy en prokeimenw einai oi Ypoyrgoi ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: H apanthsh einai aytonohth kai periexetai sthn erwthsh sas. O Prwqypoyrgos den einai aytos poy orizei to programma twn thleoptikwn staqmwn. O Prwqypoyrgos einai aytos, o opoios exei xreos, kai ayto epidiwkei, na leitoyrgei h Kybernhsh oso ginetai pio apotelesmatika kai na proballetai to ergo ths, alla kai to ergo twn Ypoyrgwn me qetiko tropo. Ayto ton apasxolei. Den ton apasxolei to pws leitoyrgoyn ta MME. Alla, bebaiws, einai mia diapistwsh ayth thn opoia kaname.

FILHS: Stis politikes epishmanseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy yphrje kapoia anafora sthn entash anamesa sto Fanari kai thn Ekklhsia ths Elladas;

REPPAS: Den egine opoiadhpote tetoia anafora.

FILHS: Epeidh to qema ths egkatastashs monimhs antiproswpeias, Grafeio opws legetai, toy Oikoymenikoy Patriarxeioy sthn Ellada, afora kai thn ellhnikh eswterikh ennomh tajh, yparxei kapoia topoqethsh gia to qema ayto;

REPPAS: Den yparxei opoiadhpote ejelijh oson afora to sygkekrimeno qema. Kai ayto kai ola ta alla synafh qemata, apoteloyn antikeimeno syzhthshs toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy Paideias me thn hgesia ths Ekklhsias ths Elladas, h opoia, gnwrizete poly kala, exei enan diko ths Kanonismo, th dikh ths aytonomia, alla den payei na exei adelfikes sxeseis me to Patriarxeio. H Kybernhsh endiaferetai kai exei gnwmh epi twn qematwn aytwn. Ta qemata ayta apasxoloyn th synergasia ths Kybernhshs, mesw toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy, me thn hgesia ths ellhnikhs Orqodojhs Ekklhsias.

FILHS: To qema exei prokycei kai me to Fanari. To ellhniko Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn exei mia politikh sxesh me to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio. H ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei syzhthsei to problhma poy exei dhmioyrghqei me to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio;

REPPAS: To Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas den exei opoiadhpote allh sxesh me to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio peran ths sxeshs poy ypagoreyetai apo to gegonos oti to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio einai h hgesia ths Orqodojhs Ekklhsias. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h Orqodojh Ekklhsia gia th xwra mas kai gia ton Ellhnismo, apotelei mia poly idiaiterh ptyxh toy politismoy mas, ths zwhs mas kai ths koinwnias mas. Ayth einai h sxesh poy exoyn kai ej aytoy toy logoy thn exoyn. Ta qemata ta opoia aforoyn th leitoyrgia qrhskeytikwn yphresiwn ths Orqodojhs Ekklhsias sthn patrida mas, sthn Aqhna, syzhtoyntai sto plaisio ths synergasias ths Kybernhshs me thn hgesia ths Orqodojhs Ekklhsias ths Ellados.

FILHS: Dhladh to aithma toy Oikoymenikoy Patriarxeioy poy einai allo nomiko proswpo apo thn Ekklhsia ths Ellados, na anoijei sthn Ellada diko toy grafeio, ena aithma poy afora thn ellhnikh eswterikh ennomh tajh kai oxi ta eswterika ths Ekklhsia ths Ellados, den exei apasxolhsei thn ellhnikh Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Exei apasxolhsei thn ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Gnwrizete poia einai h qesh mas kai sas eipa den yparxei tipota neotero, peran twn oswn gnwrizete. Afoy den exei anoijei grafeio, gnwrizete oti den exei anoijei grafeio. Yparxei kamia ejelijh; Den yparxei kapoia ejelijh. Exei lhfqei kapoia apofash; Den exei lhfqei kamia apofash. An eixe lhfqei apofash qa eixe anakoinwqei.

BITSENTZOY: Epeidh milagame, prin apo ligo, gia thleoptikes eikones qa hqela na rwthsw an o Prwqypoyrgos h o armodios Ypoyrgos h kapoios allos apo to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio eyaisqhtopoihqhke apo tis eikones poy edeijan xqes ta kanalia apo gymnasia kai lykeia poy anoijan kai briskontai se mia aqlia katastash gia na stegasoyn paidia gia th nea sxolikh xronia. Ennow sxoleia toy Dhmosioy poy einai etoimorropa, xwris tzamia kai xwris karekles.

REPPAS: Sto xwro poy exei sxesh me thn ekpaideysh yparxoyn problhmata. Prepei, enw epishmainoyme ta problhmata, gia na mhn eimaste isopedwtikoi na proballoyme kai ta epiteygmata. Giati exoyme pragmatika qeamatikh beltiwsh kai sthn ekpaideysh. Toso oson afora thn ypodomh kai ton ejoplismo twn ekpaideythriwn, alla kai oson afora kai th stelexwsh. Mporei na pei kaneis oti ta pragmata, fetos, einai poly kalytera apo kaqe allh xronia. Yparxoyn ayta ta problhmata. Yparxoyn sxoleia, se kapoies perioxes, opoy oi synqhkes den einai idanikes. Isws briskontai katw apo to epipedo ekeino sto opoio qa eprepe na ginetai didaskalia to 1998. Alla prepei na deite ta pragmata kai apo thn allh pleyra. Ta poly oysiastika bhmata poy exoyn ginei. Yparxoyn sxoleia sthn Ellada ta opoia syndeontai metajy toys kai einai dynaton me thn antallagh ekpaideytikhs peiras h th didaskalia apo apostash, polla paidia se sxoleia ths Elladas na morfwnontai me ena tropo prwtoporiako. Yparxoyn sxoleia sta opoia einai protyph h didaskalia. Yparxoyn polla kainoyrgia ktiria, idiaitera sthn ellhnikh perifereia. Sthn Aqhna kai sthn eyryterh perioxh gia logoys poy antilambaneste ta problhmata exoyn sxesh me toys xwroys, oi opoioi den einai kai toso polloi. Yparxei ena problhma poy afora thn ypodomh twn sxoleiwn.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na rwthsw sxetika me to nomosxedio poy syzhtate sth Boylh. Problepetai sto nomosxedio oti oi etaireies poy einai eishgmenes sto Xrhmatisthrio den xreiazetai na exoyn onomastikes metoxes gia na symmetasxoyn se kapoia chfiakh platforma. Antiqetws, mia ekdotikh epixeirhsh h efhmerida h ena ekdotiko omilo prepei na exei onomastikes metoxes. Mporeite na mas peite giati ayth h diaforetikh antimetwpish;

REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete -den qelw na epimeinete- na mh syzhthsoyme ta toy nomosxedioy edw, dedomenoy oti syzhtoyntai hdh sth Boylh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti to parakoloyqoyn to qema oi synadelfoi sas, oi koinoboyleytikoi syntaktes kai den nomizw oti einai wraio na yparxei mia parallhlh diadikasia. Syzhthsame polles fores kai apanthsa se erwthseis sas mexri na erqei to qema sth Boylh. Gnwrizete oti hdh oloklhrwqhke h syzhthsh toy nomosxedioy sto plaisio ths Epitrophs kai, thn epomenh ebdomada, qa ginei h syzhthsh sto Tmhma ths Boylhs. Qa hqela gia logoys deontologias, na mh syzhthsoyme ayto to qema edw sto plaisio ths politikhs enhmerwshs. Qetete ena qema. Mporw na sas apanthsw eyxerestata, alla den einai wraio.

MIXAHL: Ws epilogh sas giati to kanate; Ayto me endiaferei. Den me endiaferei to texniko meros.

REPPAS: Prwta ap'ola anafereste poly apospasmatika se mia ryqmish h opoia den perilambanei mono ayto sto opoio anafereste. Moy dinete, omws, thn eykairia na epishmanw oti to kaqestws twn radiothleoptikwn staqmwn eleyqerhs lhchs den allazei. Ta osa hdh problepontai, oson afora thn onomastikopoihsh twn metoxwn twn etaireiwn poy drasthriopoioyntai s'ayton ton tomea ejakoloyqoyn na isxysoyn. Oson afora tis nees syndromhtikes radiothleoptikes yphresies oi ryqmiseis stis opoies proxwroyme, lambanoyn ypoch toys afenos th dieqnh empeiria kai afeteroy thn texnikh kai texnologikh proodo. Gnwrizete oti stis paradosiakes radiothleoptikes yphresies, logw ths spaniothtas twn syxnothtwn, dinetai h dynatothta mono se ligoys na drasthriopoioyntai s'ayton ton tomea. Kai gi'ayto akribws, prepei na epibaloyme periorismoys wste na dwsoyme th dynatothta se polloys paiktes na anaptyjoyn drasthriothta. Antiqeta, stis nees texnologies, thn chfiakh texnologia, oi texnikoi aytoi periorismoi den yparxoyn. Kaqenas krinetai aytotelws kai efoson ekplhrwnei orismenes proypoqeseis mporei na anaptyjei ayth th drasthriothta. Pisteyoyme, loipon, oti s'aytes tis dyo drasthriothtes poy apaitoyn ychlo kostos gia tis aparaithtes ependyseis, prepei na proselkysoyme to endiaferon ellhnikwn h eyrwpaikwn epixeirhsewn poy einai fereggyes kai ajiopistes. Kai gi'ayto, akribws, qetoyme tetoioys periorismoys wste afenos na ejasfalizoyme th diafaneia poy epiqymoyme, kai afeteroy na antimetwpizoyme to problhma h to endexomeno yperbolikhs sygkentrwshs dynamhs. Leme, loipon, oti tis epixeirhseis aytes poy einai eishgmenes se ellhniko h jeno Xrhmatisthrio, epeidh me thn entajh toys s'ayto to mhxanismo qa exoyme mia eparkh diaspora metoxwn kai mia ikanopoihtikh diafaneia, mporoyme na tis ejairesoyme. Den einai efikto, allwste, na ginei kati diaforetiko logw ths ypoxrewshs na exoyn onomastikes metoxes mexri teleytaioy fysikoy proswpoy metoxwn. Einai kati poy den yparxei poyqena ston kosmo. Sas lew -gia na kleisw etsi- oti oi ryqmiseis poy problepei to nomosxedio se oti afora th sygkentrwsh kai th diafaneia einai toso aysthres, toso prowqhmenes, wste oi alles xwres ths Eyrwphs ston tomea ayto, briskontai para poly pisw. Qa elega oti den exoyn kan ryqmisei ayta ta qemata. Emeis den einai dynaton na agnohsoyme oyte ayth thn empeiria, oyte thn proodo poy exei kanei h texnologia, h opoia kai mas dinei perissoteres dynatothtes.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw kati, to opoio einai eyrytera koinwniko. Plhroforoymai, endexomenws na to deite kai eseis ypo morfh tropologias poy qa kataqesoyn h opoia na apagoreyei se shmerinoys idiokthtes aqlhtikwn anwnymwn etaireiwn, h symmetoxh se syndromhtika kalwdiaka chfiaka kanalia. Qa dexqeite mia tetoia ryqmish;

REPPAS: Den exei teqei tetoio qema. An teqei qa to antimetwpisoyme. Qa moy epitrecete na mhn anakoinwsw ayth thn wra th qesh mas, doqentos oti ola ayta ta qemata mas exoyn apasxolhsei, ta exoyme epejergastei, exoyme melethsei to Koinotiko Dikaio kai pisteyoyme oti oi ryqmiseis stis opoies proxwroyme, me opoies beltiwseis prepei na ginoyn, ejyphretoyn ta symferonta olwn, me dikaio, logiko kai isotimo tropo.

PAPPA: Peran toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, synedriazei twra kapoio allo organo;

REPPAS: Yparxei mia syskech toy Prwqypoyrgoy me Ypoyrgoys poy symmetexoyn sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai me alloys paragontes, gia trexonta qemata poy aforoyn kyriws thn oikonomikh politikh ths Kybernhshs. Ginetai mia syzhthsh se ena plaisio para poly geniko enocei twn epomenwn systhmatikwn synedriasewn gia thn katartish toy Proypologismoy.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Poy ginetai h syskech;

REPPAS: Sto grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Einai mia atyph syskech.

KIAOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an egine kamia idiaiterh anafora apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, otan miloysate gia tis dhmotikes ekloges, gia thn sygkekrimenh antiparaqesh poy ekdhlwqhke metajy PASOK kai Synaspismoy gia thn ypochfiothta ths kas Damanakh, me systaseis.

REPPAS: Den egine kamia onomastikh anafora, se opoiodhpote shmeio. Kai bebaiws, den eipwqhke otidhpote exei sxesh me ayto poy eseis onomazete antiparaqesh. Egw to onomazw ekfrash koinhs agwnias gia ena epityxes apotelesma.

FILHS: Oi Ypoyrgoi poy ejefrasan thn koinh toys agwnia gia to qema poy anaferate, mhpws eixan kapoia apoch, aytoi h o Prwqypoyrgos, gia thn "agwnia" poy ejefrase o k. Soyladakhs, xqes, epitiqemenos sto Synaspismo kai ston k. Kwnstantopoylo gia to qema ths kas Damanakh;

REPPAS: Den egine opoiadhpote anafora. To eipa molis prin. Prepei omws na pw oti o k. Soyladakhs den epitiqetai kai den prepei na xarakthrizetai epitiqemenos. Giati den einai epiteqemenos. Einai maxomenos yper enos skopoy ston opoion pisteyei.

FILHS: Otan o k. Soyladakhs leei stoixeia anakribh, opws oti "o k. Kwnstantopoylos den exei paei se kamia ekdhlwsh ths kas Damanakh", h erwthsh einai: Maxetai yper enos skopoy h maxetai enantion mia politikhs symprajhs stis dhmotikes ekloges;

REPPAS: Oloi dinoyn th maxh toys me ton kalytero tropo prokeimenoy na exoyme ena qetiko apotelesma.

FILHS: Kai ena qema poy afora th balkanikh politikh : Gia ta Skopia ti eipwqhke sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio;

REPPAS: Oson afora th synergasia mas me to geitoniko kratos, eipwqhke oti h Ellada exei anaptyjei idiaiteres oikonomikes sxeseis. Eimaste, ws xwra, o deyteros -meta th Serbia- oikonomikos etairos toy geitonikoy kratoys kai o prwtos ependyths s'ayto. Yparxei to qema ths onomasias, to opoio den exei thn entash toy parelqontos, alla bebaiws, kata kairoys erxetai sto proskhnio. Epiqymia mas einai na oloklhrwqei h diadikasia ayth sto plaisio toy OHE, me lysh h opoia qa ikanopoiei oles tis pleyres kai qa antapokrinetai se pragmatika dedomena.

Eipwqhke, epishs, oti h Ellada -kai idiaiterws h Boreia Ellada- mporei na apotelesei to kentro gia thn anaptyjh ayths ths perioxhs, mesa apo programmata isotimhs synergasias. O k. Pagkalos ekane mia xarakthristikh -an qelete- epishmansh, tonizontas oti oles oi alles xwres poy geitoneyoyn me ta Skopia den exoyn, isws, th dynatothta synergasias me ta Skopia poy exei h Ellada. Giati kaqe xwra prepei na antimetwpisei kyriws qemata eswterikoy endiaferontos kai epeidh oles oi geitonikes me ta Skopia xwres briskontai se ena epipedo anaptyjhs to opoio den toys epitrepei na antapokriqoyn se desmeyseis kai ypoxrewseis gia thn anaptyjh enos geitonikoy toys kratoys. Antiqeta, h Ellada, h B. Ellada, exei epityxei ena tetoio epipedo wste na ths parexetai ayth h dynatothta.

FILHS: Qema episkechs toy k. Shmith, yparxei;

REPPAS: Den eteqh tetoio qema.

Sas eyxaristw poly kai kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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