Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-07-31

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 31 Ioylioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase shmera to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio to opoio asxolhqhke me dyo qemata..

Prwton, th xwroqethsh egkatastasewn enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn kai th qespish toy Olympiakoy Laxeioy. Kai deyteron, tis allages sto asfalistiko systhma, gia tis opoies eishghqhke o armodios Ypoyrgos. Sxetikes dhlwseis exoyn kanei oi armodioi Ypoyrgoi.

Periorizomai na pw oti, oson afora tis xwroqethseis, to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio enekrine thn eishghsh ths gnwsths se sas Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs kai aneqese sthn Organwtikh Epitroph Diorganwshs twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn na proxwrhsei sthn ektelesh twn ergwn. Ayto htan to nohma ths shmerinhs apofashs. Oson afora to Olympiako Laxeio, sas ypenqymizw oti h qespish toy exei apofasistei edw kai arketo kairo (apo to 1996, me to N/2433) kai einai wra na teqei se efarmogh.

Oson afora tis allages sto asfalistiko systhma, den qa mpw se kamia leptomereia. Epanalambanw apla oti stoxos mas einai na proxwrhsoyme stis diarqrwtikes allages kai to syntomotero dynato, afoy oloklhrwqei h syzhthsh, h opoia ayth thn wra brisketai se ejelijh, qa katateqei, me th morfh nomosxedioy, h protash ths Kybernhshs. Sto plaisio ths shmerinhs syzhthshs egine kai enas apologismos gia to ergo poy egine ston tomea ayto, kata thn prohgoymenh periodo, me idiaiterh anafora sth systash toy kladoy kyrias asfalishs twn agrotwn, sto plaisio toy OGA, opoy, pragmatika, eixame mia entypwsiakh antapokrish twn ergazomenwn sthn ypaiqro. Mexri thn arxh toy xronoy (1.1.1998) sto metro eixan antapokriqei 780.000 agrotes, enw oi ektimhseis-prosdokies efqanan ton ariqmo ayto stis 630.000. Jeperasame, dhladh, kaqe prosdokia. H antapokrish htan para poly qetikh.

Sas anaferw ena akomh stoixeio, poy isws exei gia sas dhmosiografiko endiaferon: Sto plaisio ths diadikasias gia thn apografh kai nomimopoihsh twn allodapwn poy briskontai sthn Ellada apo ta stoixeia toy OAED prokyptei oti ews to telos Maioy eixan apografei 373.000 polites.

Sto periqwrio ths shmerinhs synedriashs, egine mia anafora se dhmosieymata ta opoia exoyn sxesh me apofash Dioikhtikoy Prwtodikeioy gia apodoxes (aforoyn anadromika) twn dikastikwn leitoyrgwn. Qa probei se dhlwsh o armodios Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs. Pisteyoyme oti to synolo toy dikastikoy kladoy den symfwnei me tetoies ejelijeis kai oti einai kalo na apofeygontai aytes oi astoxies. Synoptika h kateyqynsh poy exei h Kybernhsh einai pws den yparxei tetoio qema. Ayto gia na mpoyn ta pragmata sth qesh toys kai na mh synthreitai kai anaparagetai to qema.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Legontas "den yparxei tetoio qema", ti ennoeite;

REPPAS: Logw eyaisqhsias poy exei m` ayta ta qemata o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs exei epikoinwnhsei me ekproswpoys twn dikastikwn leitoyrgwn. Apekomise th symfwnia toys oti, pragmati, mia tetoia ejelijh den antapokrinetai stis epiqymies kai tis pepoiqhseis poy exoyn gia to pws prepei na ameibontai oi dikastikoi, katw apo tis paroyses synqhkes. M` ayth thn ennoia, einai ena qema poy mas apasxolhse kai h Kybernhsh exei ayth thn kateyqynsh, ayth th qesh: Chfisthke to eidiko misqologio, den tiqetai qema anadromikwn apodoxwn kai den einai dynaton me dikastikes apofaseis na anatrepetai o proypologismos, o opoios prepei na ekteleitai me synepeia.

LAKOPOYLOS: O Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs epikoinwnhse me syndikalistika h alla organa h me filoys toy;

REPPAS: Me ton Proedro ths Enwshs Dikastwn kai Eisaggelewn k. Lymperopoylo, o opoios toy metefere ayth thn apoch. Ayto mas eipe o k. Giannopoylos, o opoios apo to prwi, asxoleitai epimelws kai systhmatika me to qema, gia logoys oysiastikoys, praktikoys, alla kai gia logoys politikoys kai symbolikoys, toys opoioys antilambaneste oloi.

MIXAHL: Ti eipe eisagwgika o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, eyxomenos sta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy kalh jekoyrash kai epistrofh me nees dynameis sto ergo toys meta tis diakopes, ekane mia poly syntomh anafora sthn periodo poy perase. Eipe oti kaname shmantika bhmata. Anefere ws epityxhmenh, metajy twn allwn, thn prospaqeia ths Kybernhshs ston tomea twn sxesewn ths xwras mas me tis xwres ths E. E. Anaferqhke qetika sthn poly eynoikh gia to nomisma kai genika gia thn oikonomia mas ejelijh ths entajhs ths draxmhs sto Mhxanismo Synallagmatikwn Isotimiwn, poy dhmioyrghse ena allo klima kai proselkyei to ependytiko endiaferon jenwn paragontwn. Anefere, epishs, kai tis dyskolies poy synanthsame sthn prospaqeia mas, kata thn periodo poy perase. Ekane sygkekrimenh anafora sta problhmata ta opoia antimetwpizei h Olympiakh Aeroporia, ekfrazontas thn aisiodojia toy pws ki ayta qa antimetwpistoyn. Se kaqe periptwsh, epeshmane o Prwqypoyrgos, h prospaqeia mas gia tis aparaithtes diarqrwtikes allages, qa synexistei, giati apoteloyn to mono dromo, wste na epityxei h Ellada toys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei, stoxoys filodojoys, alla anagkaioys, prokeimenoy na exoyme mia isxyrh qesh sth dieqnh koinwnia, ta epomena xronia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti mesolabhse kai ekei poy o k. Pagkalos kathgoroyse ton k. Klinton gia ta "xontroeidestata" cemata, gia tis yposxeseis poy den thrhse, xqes, diabebaiwse ton k. Mperns oti trefei thn ychloterh proswpikh ektimhsh gia ton Proedro Klinton. Ti mesolabhse; Ti allaje;

REPPAS: Den allaje tipota. H politikh twn dyo xwrwn paramenei ayth poy gnwrizete. O k. Pagkalos epeshmane oti oi ejaggelies ths kybernhshs kai toy epikefalhs twn HPA den efarmozontai pantote kai oti ayto einai ena arnhtiko fainomeno, to opoio prepei na stamathsei. Pisteyoyme oti oi sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn einai kales kai qa ginoyn poly kalyteres. Einai sxeseis isotimias, prokeimenoy na epidiwxqei kai na epiteyxqei amoibaia wfeleia twn lawn kai twn dyo xwrwn. Gnwrizete oti pantote tetoies sxeseis, dokimazoyn entaseis, exoyn diakymanseis. Oi sxeseis aytes, omws, mporei na pei kapoios oti diaxronika kinoyntai se qetikh kateyqynsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayta poy grafontai toses hmeres gia krish... ;

REPPAS: Gia ola ayta ta qemata dwsame apanthseis. Kaqe kybernhsh diatypwnei thn politikh ths. Emeis epiqymoyme, sta megala qemata -ta opoia mas endiaferoyn kai sta opoia h kybernhsh twn HPA exei ekdhlwsei endiaferon na emplakei- na sympesoyn oi politikes twn dyo xwrwn. Kai ayto, doqentos oti gia ta qemata ayta kai idiaitera gia to Kypriako, to opoio einai dieqnes qema, to plaisio politikhs poy exei apofasisei o OHE, kalyptei apolyta kai thn politikh poy prowqei h ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Ara, loipon, yparxei "stadion dojhs lampron" gia na analhfqoyn prwtoboylies. Yparxei kai pedio symptwshs, doqentos oti o OHE einai h megalh oikogeneia ths Oikoymenhs, sthn opoia anhkoyme kai emeis kai oi HPA. Etsi exei to qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati, tote, k. Ypoyrge, efqase sto shmeio na zhtaei syggnwmh o k. Pagkalos gi` ayta poy eipe;

REPPAS: Ayto einai mia ekfrash poy xrhsimopoieite eseis. Den symfwnw me ayth thn ekfrash sas. O k. Pagkalos, opws kai sto parelqon, etsi kai twra, alla kai sto mellon, qa syzhta, ws Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas, me diplwmates-ekproswpoys twn allwn xwrwn ta qemata dimeroys h dieqnoys endiaferontos. Kai qa syzhta ws ekproswpos ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, sth bash ths isotimias, epidiwkontas na prowqhsei to eqniko symferon. Kai to eqniko symferon epitassei, metajy twn allwn, na proballoyme me safhneia tis qeseis mas kai taytoxrona na apaitoyme apo oloys na ginontai sebastes aytes oi qeseis, poly perissotero giati einai qeseis oi opoies briskontai se apolyth armonia me tis apofaseis Dieqnwn Organismwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, den rwthsa ayto. Rwthsa qa kataggellei kai meta qa zhtaei syggnwmh; To idio eixe ginei kai me ton k. Kinkel.

REPPAS: Den synebh ayto to opoio isxyrizeste. Eseis jekinate thn erwthsh sas apo mia bash, h opoia den antapokrinetai sta pragmata. Logiko einai, loipon, na mh sas ikanopoiei kai h apanthsh moy.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Syzhthqhkan shmera eqnika qemata kai pws sxoliazei h Kybernhsh tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Roympin;

REPPAS: Den syzhthqhkan qemata ejwterikhs politikhs. Oson afora tis dhlwseis toy k. Roympin, exw na pw oti ekfrazoyn thn politikh twn HPA, h opoia mporei me megalh anesh na taytistei me thn politikh ths xwras mas gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. Ayto epidiwkoyme, ayto epiqymoyme. Apomenei, pleon, na to doyme kai sthn prajh. Ayto einai to zhtoymeno, edw kai para polla xronia.

G. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mporei gia thn Kybernhsh h parenqesh gia tis ellhnoamerikanikes sxeseis na exei kleisei, wstoso o prwhn proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias, o k. Ebert, me nees dhlwseis toy zhthse apo ton Prwqypoyrgo na antikatasthsei ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn h an exei filotimo o k. Pagkalos, opws eipe, na paraithqei o idios. Exete kapoio sxolio gi` aytes tis dhlwseis;

REPPAS: O k Ebert den orizei poios qa einai Ypoyrgos sthn Kybernhsh, opws, epishs, den nomimopoieitai me tetoio eykolo tropo, xwris na exei epidiwjei na exei emperistatwmenh enhmerwsh, an epiqymei na exei enhmerwsh, na probainei se kataggelies kai xarakthrismoys, agnowntas to periexomeno twn syzhthsewn kai agnowntas, pisteyw, kai aytes akoma tis dhlwseis poy ekane o k. Pagkalos, oi opoies kata ton k. Ebert dhmioyrghsan problhma. Einai ena texnasma gia na brisketai enas politikos sthn epikairothta. Ayto to texnasma exei xrhsimopoihqei kat` epanalhch. Allote me epityxia kai allote oxi. Qa elega oti o k. Ebert den to xrhsimopoiei epityxws ayto to texnasma. To epixeirhse kai otan htan arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs kai den ton odhghse poyqena ayth h prospaqeia toy. To epixeirei kai twra poy den einai sth qesh ayth. Den jerw poios einai o stoxos toy. Pantws, an stoxos toy einai na parameinei sth dhmosiothta to epitygxanei. An exei alloys stoxoys, nomizw oti den qa toys epityxei.

KOLWTAS: Yphrxe epikoinwnia toy Proedroy Klhridh me ton k. Shmith se sxesh me thn programmatismenh episkech toy k. Miller;

REPPAS: Den yphrje kapoia epikoinwnia gia eidiko qema. Kata kairoys ginontai tetoies epafes kai epikoinwnies.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, proxqes, o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn dhlwse oti den qelei na dei ton k. Miller kai den qa ton dexqei. Xqes, dhlwse oti qa ton dexqei. Ti allaje pali mesa se mia hmera;

REPPAS: Gia thn oikonomia ths syzhthshs, an dexqw oti exoyn ginei allages, den prepei oi allages aytes na anazhtoyntai apo esas pantote sthn politikh poy akoloyqei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti o k. Pagkalos exei diatypwsei kai protaseis poy odhgoyn sthn ejeyresh lysewn, gia na odhghqoyme sto mellon se apostratikopoihsh ths Kyproy, kati poy den symbainei epeidh h Toyrkia threi apolyta arnhtikh stash. O k. Pagkalos, opws eipe -kai ayth einai h qesh ths Kybernhshs- den einai diateqeimenos na syzhta, otan to periexomeno twn syzhthsewn einai ejw apo to plaisio to opoio exei apofasistei gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. An pragmatika dexontai oi tritoi, oi opoioi tritoi, na symballoyn sthn epilysh toy Kypriakoy, paramenontas s` ayto to plaisio, me tis prwtoboylies kai tis alles prospaqeies poy anaptyssoyn, tote bebaiws h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh einai proqymh na syzhthsei mazi toys. Oxi, omws, sthn antiqeth periptwsh. Ayto eipe o k. Pagkalos. Anamenoyme apo ton k. Miller, otan episkefqei thn Ellada, sto plaisio twn prwtoboyliwn poy ekdhlwnei, na symballei qetika, wste na ektonwqei h entash poy yparxei metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias peri to kypriako qema kai bebaiws na prowqhqei h prospaqeia poy ginetai tosa xronia, xwris, dystyxws, apotelesma poy den einai allo apo th lysh toy Kypriakoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Allo, rwthsa. Egw rwthsa giati thn Trith o k. Pagkalos eipe oti den prokeitai na ton dexqei kai thn Pempth leei "qa ton dexqw"

REPPAS: Giati, akribws, k. Stamatopoyle -apanthsa kai lypoymai giati den to antilhfqhkate- o k. Pagkalos den hqele ekeinh th xronikh stigmh na proxwrhsei se mia tetoia syzhthsh. O k. Pagkalos, exontas ypoch toy ayta ta opoia gnwrize, den hqele na einai antikeimeno ths syzhthshs ayto to opoio kata th dikh toy krish kai kata ta fainomena qa eixe ayth h synanthsh. O k. Pagkalos qa syzhthsei, sth bash omws twn koinwn desmeysewn poy exoyn analhfqei gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy, oxi ejw apo ayto to plaisio. Kai gi` ayto akribws aneptyja thn apanthsh poy edwsa, ypenqymizontas sas, metajy allwn, oti o k. Pagkalos exei diatypwsei idees, prokeimenoy na einai paragwgikos kai epoikodomhtikos se aytes tis prospaqeies poy ginontai gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. Ayto prepei na einai safes.

KYRIAKIDOY: Alhqeyei oti o k. Zospen einai sthn Ellada kai qa synanthqei me ton k. Shmith;

REPPAS: H Ellada einai mia omorfh xwra kai polloi jenoi thn episkeptontai. H alhqeia einai oti dyo hgetes qa breqoyn entos toy Aygoystoy sthn Ellada. O k. Zospen qa erqei, shmera, sthn Ellada. Pragmatopoiei idiwtikh episkech. Exei epikoinwnhsei me ton k. Shmith. Qa exoyn thn eykairia na synanthqoyn kai na syzhthsoyn oi dyo andres sth diarkeia ths paramonhs toy k. Zospen sthn Ellada. Pros to telos toy mhna qa episkefqei thn Ellada o Kagkelarios ths Aystrias k. Klima, o opoios qa paei ston Agion Oros me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai qa exoyn, bebaiws, kai syzhthseis gia qemata koinoy endiaferontos kai ayth h episkech einai idiwtikh.

MIXAHL: Einai programmatismeno, poy qa ginei ayth h synanthsh Shmith-Zospen;

REPPAS: O k. Zospen, apo shmera to brady, kanei diakopes sthn Antiparo. Parakalw, na sebasteite ki eseis to oti o jenos politikos dialeje ena ellhniko nhsi gia na perasei tis diakopes toy kai na jekoyrastei, wste na anakthsei dynameis gia to ergo to opoio ton perimenei sthn Gallia, apo ton Septembrio. Den prepei na eimaste enoxlhtikoi kai na epibarynoyme tis diakopes toy. To idio isxyei kai gia ton k. Klima.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Eidame, shmera, diafora dhmosieymata na milane gia anasxhmatismo. Anaferontai kai se sas kai sas metakinoyn sto Ypoyrgeio Metaforwn. Ti exete na peite ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: Ola ayta den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn alhqeia kai thn pragmatikothta. Einai geloio kai lyphro na grafontai tetoia pragmata.

Eyxaristw poly. Kales diakopes.

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