Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-06-24

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Ioynioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Oi synadelfoi sas parakoloyqoyn pws ejelissetai h episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sta Nayphgeia, opoy ekfwnei logo ayth thn wra.

Eimai etoimos na akoysw tis erwthseis sas.

LAKOPOYLOS: Grafetai shmera ston Typo, se megalh ektash, oti to PASOK ws komma analambanei, kata kapoio tropo, ena rolo epopth sthn efarmogh ths oikonomikhs politikhs ths Kybernhshs. Qelete na mas peite an ayth h ermhneia einai orqh kai ti epiballei ayth th sxesh kommatos kai Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Qa zhtoysa na apofeygete tis ermhneies, giati synhqws prokyptoyn parermhneies. H oikonomikh politikh apofasizetai apo thn Kybernhsh. Exei ejaggelqei kai threitai me synepeia. To programma twn diarqrwtikwn allagwn ejelissetai me bash ta osa exoyme yposxeqei kai ejaggeilei. O rolos toy kommatos einai rolos yposthrijhs kai anadeijhs ayths ths politikhs. Einai rolos o opoios afora tis eswterikes diadikasies, prokeimenoy to synolo twn kommatikwn dynamewn na laboyn meros se ayth thn prospaqeia, h opoia ginetai gia thn proodo ths xwras. Me ayth thn ennoia, einai para poly shmantikos. O kaqenas exei to diko toy rolo. Den prokeitai o enas na ypokatasthsei ton allo kai gi' ayto akribws, den dikaiologeitai opoiadhpote sygxysh -poy kapoioi qewroyn oti exei prokycei- gia thn armodiothta poy exoyn ta kybernhtika organa gia ta osa aforoyn thn Kybernhsh kai ta kommatika organa gia ta qemata poy aforoyn th leitoyrgia toy Kinhmatos.

KIAOS: Apasxolhse, estw sth skech, armodioys ths Kybernhshs h spoydh me thn opoia h Astynomia ekleise to porisma poy ejedwse gia thn ypoqesh ths dolofonikhs epiqeshs enantion toy foithth Koysoyrh;

REPPAS: Den yparxei opoiadhpote spoydh. H Astynomia den espeyse na kleisei kapoia ypoqesh. Antiqetws. Oi ereynes ths Astynomias synexizontai. To eipa xqes kai to epanalambanw. O eisaggeleas eixe qesei proqesmia kai entos ayths ths proqesmias, qa eprepe na diabibastei o fakelos me ta eggrafa ths proanakrishs sth dikastikh arxh. H Astynomia ayto ekane, afoy, me synepeia, eprepe na symmorfwqei se ayth thn entolh toy armodioy eisaggelea. Oson afora ayto to idio to epeisodio, h Astynomia synexizei thn ereyna ths kai an yparxoyn nea stoixeia -o fakelos einai anoixtos- qa proskomistoyn kai qa prowqhqoyn stis armodies dikastikes arxes.

KIAOS: Epeidh diabazoyme sta reportaz oti einai...

REPPAS: Eipa, k. Kiao, oti eixe qesei sygkekrimenh proqesmia o eisaggeleas, entos ths opoias qa eprepe na prowqhqoyn se ayton ta eggrafa ths proanakrishs poy dienhrghsan oi armodies yphresies ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias. H Ellhnikh Astynomia synexizei thn ereyna. To yliko to opoio sygkentrwse, to eqese sth diaqesh toy eisaggelea. H oloklhrwsh ths ereynas apo thn pleyra ths Astynomias, pisteyoyme oti qa einai epityxhs, efoson katorqwsei na entopisei aytoys toys opoioys ypociazontai oi arxes ths Astynomias, ws emplekomenoys se ayto to qlibero epeisodio.

KIAOS: O Ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajews exei jekinhsei endexomenws mia ereyna gia to ti symbainei sto xwro ths Astynomias, diafora peristatika poy exoyn kataggelqei;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti sthn Ellhnikh Astynomia exoyn ginei para polles allages ta teleytaia xronia. Htan prwtoboylia ths Kybernhshs toy PASOK na epitrapei akomh kai o syndikalismos twn andrwn ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias. Pisteyw oti h Ellhnikh Astynomia einai pleon ena dhmokratiko swma poy leitoyrgei me sebasmo pros to Syntagma kai toys nomoys toy kratoys. Opoia fainomena parektropwn ekdhlwnontai, antimetwpizontai analogws. H Ellhnikh Astynomia mporei na pei kapoios oti apotelei ena stoixeio leitoyrgias toy politeymatos mas, to opoio den exei opoiadhpote sxesh me nootropies kai symperifores toy parelqontos.

KIAOS: Apokleiete na yparxoyn qylakes poy h drasthriothta toys den symbadizei me to plaisio poy anaptyjate;

REPPAS: An qelete na kanoyme ypoqeseis, den mporw na apokleisw tipota se ayto ton kosmo kai me ta osa exoyme dei na ginontai. Apo thn allh, omws, den einai dynato na syzhtoyme sth bash aytwn twn ypoqesewn, gia ena qema poy afora ena sygkekrimeno tomea toy ellhnikoy kratoys.

KIAOS: Epeidh eixame peristatika...

REPPAS: Ta opoia exoyn antimetwpistei me poly aysthro tropo.

KIAOS:... nomizete oti exoyn kleisei oi ypoqeseis; Ayto qelw na pw.

REPPAS: An yparxoyn alla qemata, qa antimetwpistoyn me ton idio aysthro tropo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, efoson h Astynomia gnwrizei, ta proswpa, den jerei tis dieyqynseis poy menoyn gia na toys syllabei;

REPPAS: Apanthsa s' ayto xqes, k. Stamatopoyle. Apanthsa kai eipa pws kai mono oti kapoioi krybontai, epeidh akribws den katoikoyn pleon stis dieyqynseis stis opoies emenan, ayto dhlwnei oti kai oi idioi antilambanontai oti einai enoxoi, oti h drasthriothta toys ayth apotelei antikeimeno ereynas apo tis diwktikes arxes kai gi' ayto prospaqoyn na apofygoyn ton entopismo kai th syllhch toys.

SOYGLERHS: Ektimaei h Kybernhsh oti yparxoyn anqrwpoi poy kinoyntai me opoiodhpote tropo gia na "koykoylwsoyn" ayth thn ypoqesh; REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Opoiadhpote ypoqesh periexei prajeis, oi opoies einai ajiopoines, oxi mono qa antimetwpistei me bash ta osa problepoyn oi nomoi kai to dikaio ths xwras mas. H hgesia ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias kai h politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs, deixnoyn idiaiterh eyaisqhsia se ayta ta qemata. Giati einai gnwsta ta paqh kai ta laqh toy parelqontos. H stash ths hgesias toy Ypoyrgeioy kai ths Astynomias qa einai ameilikth apenanti se tetoia fainomena.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Qelw na rwthsw, ean o Prwqypoyrgos qewrei oti h apostolh ellhnikwn maxhtikwn aeroplanwn kai h staqmeysh toys sthn Pafo, einai kati poy den xreiazetai na to gnwrizei.

REPPAS: Milhsame ektetamena gi' ayto to qema. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayth h epixeirhsh, h ekpaideytikh pthsh, egine meta apo synennohsh twn dyo kybernhsewn.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Anaferomai ston Prwqypoyrgo.

REPPAS: Lete na yparxei kybernhsh ths opoias o Proedros na exei antiqeth gnwmh apo aythn;

T. MPERMPERAKHS.: Yparxei swreia dhmosieymatwn, opws to "BHMA THS KYRIAKHS", h "KAQHMERINH", h "AYGH", oi opoies epikaloymenes kybernhtikes phges anaferoyn oti o Prwqypoyrgos den gnwrize thn apostolh twn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn.

REPPAS: Qa labete apanthsh apo tis efhmerides, stis opoies prepei na apeyqynqeite. Otan apeyqyneste se mena sas dinw sygkekrimenh apanthsh kai einai h apanthsh poy exw dwsei edw kai arketes meres.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me poia krithria epelegh h Trapeza toy k. Xolmproyk gia xrhmatooikonomikos symboylos ston OTE;

REPPAS: Milwntas gia paremferes qema prin arketes hmeres, eipame oti o OTE, o opoios exei ekdhlwsei endiaferon na ginei metoxos toy antistoixoy organismoy thlepikoinwniwn ths Moldabias, exei epilejei ws symboylo s' aythn thn prospaqeia poy kanei th gnwsth etaireia. Ayth h Trapeza symboyleyei ton OTE, opws kai alloys megaloys organismoys s' olo ton kosmo. Einai enas egkyrotatos kai koina apodektos symboylos. Gnwrizei ayta ta qemata. Exei ejeidikeysh kai gnwsh toy antikeimenoy. Den exei opoiadhpote sxesh to oti o k. Xolmproyk mporei na synergazetai me ayton ton oiko.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn polloi tetoioi organismoi. Jafnika pws entopisan oti yparxei aytos;

REPPAS: Exei xrhsimopoihqei sto parelqon kat` epanalhch. Einai apo toys pleon egkyroys, exei gnwsh twn qematwn aytwn, exei empeiria. Ta exw pei kat' epanalhch ayta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto parelqon poy xrhsimopoihqhke;

REPPAS: Den exw proxeira, twra, ta stoixeia. Prwth fora akoyte ayton ton trapeziko oiko o opoios xrhsimopoieitai ws symboylos megalwn epixeirhsewn toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy kai oxi monon; Einai apo toys megalyteroys dieqneis oikoys gi` ayta ta qemata.

FASOYLAS: Mia dieykrinish. Eipate oti exei xrhsimopoihqei kai sto parelqon. Prin, dhladh, o k. Xolmproyk analabei akoma kapoies drasthriothtes sthn perioxh;

REPPAS: Den exei opoiadhpote sxesh h synergasia poy exei o k. Xolmproyk me thn Trapeza. Den einai ayto to krithrio gia thn epilogh ths Trapezas se diafores tetoias morfhs synergasies me to ellhniko dhmosio h organismoys toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy. Nomizw oti o k. Xolmproyk prosfata anelabe kapoia kaqhkonta s' ayto ton organismo. O organismos omws aytos yparxei edw kai arketa xronia. Exei xrhsimopoihqei apo th dekaetia toy '80.

SOYGLERHS: Xqes, eidame ton k. Abramopoylo kai ton k. Benizelo se filofronhseis, enw eixe prohghqei mia entash. Gnwrizete kati eseis giati phgame sta malaka;

REPPAS: Einai stoixeio politismoy oi politikoi andres, akomh kai otan diafwnoyn, na antallassoyn tis apoceis toys me kosmio tropo. Panta h eyaisqhsia kai h glykythta dinoyn diejodo akomh kai stis megalyteres antiparaqeseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati allaje o fakelos ths Olympiadas;

REPPAS: O fakelos ths Olympiadas den exei allajei. Gnwrizete poly kala oti o fakelos aytos htan ena apo ta poly shmantika opla ta opoia eixame sth diaqesh mas kai ajiopoihsame, prokeimenoy na analaboyme th diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004. Twra, pleon, einai sth dikh mas eyxereia na antimetwpisoyme epimeroys qemata me tetoio tropo, wste kai to periballon, alla kai ta oikonomika dedomena ta opoia den mporoyme na ta agnohsoyme, na tyxoyn ths kalyterhs antimetwpishs apo thn pleyra mas, prokeimenoy na anaptyxqoyn ayta ta liga akoma erga poy einai aparaithta gia th diorganwsh ths Olympiadas. Den allazei o fakelos, alla pantote exei h kaqe xwra, h kaqe polh, h kaqe diorganwtria arxh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, ayto to dikaiwma. Kai ayto to dikaiwma ajiopoioyme. Nomizw oti einai pros epaino kai oxi pros kathgoria to oti deixnoyme ayth thn eyaisqhsia kai to endiaferon na ejoikonomhsoyme xrhmata gia na mhn traymatisoyme to periballon ekei poy den prepei na to kanoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tote den eixe lhfqei ypoch to periballon;

REPPAS: Asfalws kai eixe lhfqei. To oti eixe lhfqei ypoch fainetai apo to oti o fakelos aytos meta pollwn epainwn egine dektos apo toys kaloymenoys Aqanatoys, oi opoioi mas aneqesan th diorganwsh twn Agwnwn.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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