Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-03-11

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11.3.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON GENIKO GRAMMATEA TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS NIKO AQANASAKH

Geia sas.

* O Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrhse gia to Londino, opoy qa parei meros sthn Eyrwpaikh Diaskech. Ton synodeyei, mazi me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Q. Pagkalo kai ton Anaplhrwth Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy, o Ypoyrgos Typoy D. Reppas, gi' ayto eimai egw sth diaqesh sas. Gnwrizete oti meta apo to Londino qa akoloyqhsei h episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Praga, stis arxes ths epomenhs ebdomadas.

* Na sas anakoinwsw, epishs, oti stis 18 toy mhnos, thn epomenh Tetarth, qa pragmatopoihsei epishmh episkech sthn Aqhna o Prwqypoyrgos ths Oyggarias Gkioyla Xorn. Ta qemata poy qa syzhthqoyn stis synanthseis poy qa exei, qa estiastoyn, kyriws, sthn anaptyjh twn dimerwn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn, sth genikoterh katastash sthn perioxh kai sthn poreia entajhs ths Oyggarias sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai sto NATO.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KIAOS: Mia dieykrinish: Apo to Londino qa paei kat' eyqeian sthn Praga h qa perasei apo kapoy alloy; Qa meinei dhladh kai meta th Diaskech sto Londino;

AQANASAKHS: Apo to Londino qa paei sthn Praga.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an ayto poy eipe o k. Katsanebas sth Boylh gia thn arsh ths monimothtas twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn kai symfwna me ta dhmosieymata poy yparxoyn shmera, to skeftetai h Kybernhsh.

AQANASAKHS: Ayto to qema apanthqhke hdh sthn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia, me topoqethsh toy koinoboyleytikoy ekproswpoy toy kommatos, toy k. Sfyrioy, kai apo ayto edw to bhma, epaneilhmmena, epishs, exei apanthqei. Den ejetazei h Kybernhsh tetoio qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla o k. Katsanebas htan eishghths...

AQANASAKHS: Den ejetazei h Kybernhsh qema arshs ths monimothtas twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn. Kai gnwrizete eseis, epishs, ws palaios politikos syntakths, oti exei oloklhrwqei h diadikasia twn protasewn gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos, sth Boylh. H monimothta sxetizetai kai me ayto, poy epishs den eqigh, to qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai giati bghke o k. Katsanebas na pei ayto to pragma;

AQANASAKHS: Giati rwtate emena gi' ayto;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati htan eishghths ths Kybernhshs.

AQANASAKHS: Allh erwthsh, parakalw.

GARGALAKOS: H Kybernhsh exei ajiologhsei thn katastash poy epikratei sto komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs;

AQANASAKHS: H Kybernhsh den epembainei sta eswterika twn allwn kommatwn. Parakoloyqoyme thn krish poy brisketai se ejelijh. Einai gegonos oti einai mia makroxronh krish. Alla ayto poy mporei na endiaferei emas einai na mporesei to komma ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs na diadramatisei to qesmiko toy rolo, ws komma ths meizonos antipoliteyshs.

GARGALAKOS: Akoysthkan, shmera, polla sxolia gyrw apo kapoio "orgio" kommatikwn parembasewn, se o,ti afora tis kriseis sthn Ellhnikh Astynomia. Exete kapoio sxolio ep' aytoy;

AQANASAKHS: Eida kapoia dhmosieymata. Einai synexeia dhmosieymatwn poy anaferqhkan kai se o,ti afora tis kriseis stis Enoples Dynameis. Einai entelws anypostates oi plhrofories aytes kai osoi tis dioxeteyoyn, prosferoyn xeiristh yphresia, dioti h Kybernhsh den epembainei me kanena tropo sth leitoyrgia twn armodiwn Yphresiakwn Symboyliwn. Epi ths oysias, oi kriseis ginontai me krithria ajiokratias, me diafaneia kai antikeimenikothta kai sxolia tetoia einai sxolia poy metaferoyn ena klima allwn epoxwn poy shmera den yparxei.

GARGALAKOS: Poiwn epoxwn;

AQANASAKHS: Allwn epoxwn poy exoyn katagrafei istorika.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazete thn apofash toy Dikasthrioy sta Trikala poy katadikase agrotes, xwris dikaiwma efeshs;

AQANASAKHS: Thn apofash toy Dikasthrioy den mporw na th sxoliasw, opws katalabainete. Ean eisagete etsi thn erwthsh sas, dystyxws den mporw na apanthsw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai prwtofanhs ayth h apofash "xwris efesh". Dhladh, timwrei h Kybernhsh toys agrotes;

AQANASAKHS: Ypoqetw oti ena Dikasthrio, ean krinei oti prepei na epiblhqei mia poinh xwris efesh, epiballei mia poinh xwris efesh. H sygkekrimenh de poinh, opws gnwrizete kai opws diabasa, einai me anastolh. To qema synthreitai kai shmera sthn epikairothta, epeidh -apo ta dhmosieymata eida- den kataballontai ta elaxista dikastika ejoda, oytws wste na teleiwsei ayto to qema kai na arxisei na leitoyrgei h anastolh. Ayto omws kai to giati ginetai, einai allo qema.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Sthn Eyrwpaikh Diaskech, sto Londino, qa syzhthqei kai to qema ths anergias;

AQANASAKHS: Qa syzhthqoyn genika qemata oikonomias kai oikonomikwn ejelijewn sthn Eyrwph kai stis ypochfies gia entajh xwres.

KARASABBA: Qa hqela na rwthsw, poia qa einai h ellhnikh stash ean den antapokriqei o Proedros Slompontan Milosebits sto dekahmero poy toy eteqh...;

AQANASAKHS: Den nomizw oti yparxei kapoios logos na milhsoyme shmera gia to ti qa ginei meta apo 10 hmeres. Ayto poy mporoyme na epanalaboyme shmera -kai na epanalabw egw apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs- einai ayto poy exei eipwqei apo thn prwth stigmh kai ayto poy prokyptei kai apo to keimeno poy ypegrace h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, dia toy Ypoyrgoy twn Ejwterikwn. Kai ayto einai mia ekklhsh gia aytosygkrathsh kai metriopaqeia, mia ekklhsh gia prowqhsh twn diadikasiwn toy dialogoy kai apodoxh basikwn arxwn, oi opoies einai: Sebasmos twn ejwterikwn synorwn, oxi aposxistikes politikes, oxi sth bia, sebasmos twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn kai twn basikwn eleyqeriwn. Ayto einai to plaisio sto opoio kineitai h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh se o,ti afora ayto to qema. Ta ypoloipa na ta blepoyme kaqe fora sthn wra toys, me thn eyxh na breqei syntoma lysh.

SOYRMELIDHS: H dhlwsh poy ypegrace h Kybernhsh me orismenes alles balkanikes xwres, qewrei h ellhnikh Kybernhsh oti einai plaisio arxwn poy isxyei gia ola ta meionotika problhmata ths perioxhs kai olwn aytwn twn xwrwn poy ypegracan th dhlwsh h einai mono gia to Kossobo;

AQANASAKHS: H sygkekrimenh dhlwsh einai dhlwsh gia to Kossobo. An qelete na me rwthsete gia kati sygkekrimeno na me rwthsete kai qa sas apanthsw.

SOYRMELIDHS: Oxi, rwtaw an einai plaisio arxwn h mono gia to Kossobo.

AQANASAKHS: Einai basikes arxes kai qewrw oti isxyoyn. To qema toy sebasmoy twn ejwterikwn synorwn p.x. sthn perioxh mas einai kati poy h Kybernhsh kai h Ellada to qetei apo thn prwth stigmh. To qema toy sebasmoy twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn einai epishs qema poy tiqetai panta. Gi' ayto lew, an exete kati sygkekrimeno na me rwthsete gia na ejeidikeysw kai egw thn apanthsh moy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto poy ypegrace h Toyrkia gia sebasmo twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn to efarmozei ayth sth xwra ths;

AQANASAKHS: Se o,ti afora thn katastash twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn sthn Toyrkia, gnwrizete para poly kala tis qeseis ths Elladas. Gnwrizete, epishs kai tis qeseis ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Exoyn diatypwqei sygkekrimenes aitiaseis, sygkekrimenes epishmanseis kai sygkekrimenes parathrhseis. Ayta einai gnwsta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den kanoyme kai emeis mazi me oloys osoi ypegracan, mia diakhryjh gia thn prostasia twn Koyrdwn apo tis sfages twn Toyrkwn;

AQANASAKHS: Se o,ti afora to Koyrdiko kai sto xwro ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs sthn opoia anhkoyme, ta Organa ths E.E. kai to Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio, exoyn ekdwsei sygkekrimenes apofaseis, me sygkekrimeno periexomeno kai me eishghseis ths ellhnikhs pleyras.

SOYRMELIDHS: An epomenws ta osa exoyme ypogracei sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh gia to Koyrdiko arkoyn, giati den arkoyn ta osa exoyn ypogracei to NATO kai h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. gia to Kossobo, alla xreiazetai na ypogracoyme ejairetikh dhlwsh;

AQANASAKHS: To ti arkei kaqe fora einai politikh ektimhsh poy thn kaneis kaqe fora.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Askhqhkan pieseis apo amerikanikhs pleyras gia na ypogracoyme ayto to keimeno;

AQANASAKHS: Oxi, k. Stamatopoyle. Me tis alles xwres yparxei mia diaboyleysh, antallagh apocewn kai allhloenhmerwsh. Den yparxei diadikasia piesewn gia ena qema sto opoio den exoyme diafwnia. Den exoyn epishmanqei diafwnies epi toy keimenoy.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Anamenei h Kybernhsh klimakwsh twn toyrkikwn proklhsewn sto Aigaio kai thn Kypro ystera apo thn antidrash twn Toyrkokypriwn gia thn entajiakh diadikasia ths Kyproy;

AQANASAKHS: Giati na eimai profhths kakwn; Giati na kanw thn Kassandra; Poly perissotero poy an parapemcw parenqetika ston Omhriko stixo, aytos leei oti "h Kassandra problepe kai problepe swsta sthn polh ta deina ths". Ara, den exw logo na kanw thn Kassandra. Epi ths politikhs, omws, to pws qa epilejei na antidrasei h Toyrkia einai diko ths qema. Emeis, exoyme epimeinei olo ayto to diasthma sthn anagkh hremias sthn perioxh kai th diatarajh ths hremias den thn prokalei se kamia periptwsh h Ellada.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Ystera apo thn apofash toy Loyjemboyrgoy, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe diablecei, eixe ektimhsei...

AQANASAKHS: Eixe yparjei mia entash ek twn pragmatwn. Kategrafh ki ayth.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Akribws, gi' ayto rwtw.

AQANASAKHS: Elpizoyme oti den qa yparjoyn tetoies antidraseis. Dioti tetoioy eidoys antidraseis, apedeixqh, opws kai sth fash amesws meta to Loyjemboyrgo, oti den ejyphretoyn prwta ap' ola thn Toyrkia. H Toyrkia prepei na katanohsei oti den ths ftaiei oyte h Ellada, oyte oi loipes xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs gia to oti den metexei shmera sth Diaskech. Yparxei to plaisio toy Loyjemboyrgoy, to opoio apeyqynetai kai sthn Toyrkia. H Ellada exei epaneilhmmena tonisei oti den antitassetai sthn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias. To antiqeto. Alla prepei na einai sebasto kai na ikanopoieitai ena sygkekrimeno plaisio, to opoio isxyei gia tis xwres poy einai melh ths E.E. h poy einai ypochfies gia entajh sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: Meta thn epistolh Ntenktas pros ton k. Klhridh, sthn opoia o Ntenktas leei oti qa prepei na symmetasxei ws kratos ontothtas stis synomilies kai meta thn apotyxhmenh synanthsh Miler-Ntentkas, qa legate oti odhgoymeqa se ena epikindyno adiejodo sto Kypriako akoma kai sto qema ths entajhs;

AQANASAKHS: Den qa elega oti odhgoymeqa opoydhpote. O k. Ntenktas ayto poy kanei einai emmonh sthn adiallajia. Ayth h stash den symballei bebaiws. Perimenoyme allagh ayths ths stashs. Elpizoyme se allagh ayths ths stashs. En pash periptwsei se o,ti afora thn poreia ths Kyproy pros thn E.E., exoyme katasthsei safes oti den einai dynaton h poreia ayth kai h Kypriakh Dhmokratia na einai omhros ths toyrkikhs katoxhs.

MOSXOBAS: Epimenei h Kybernhsh sthn apoch oti den qa ferei pros chfish sth Boylh th symfwnia gia to ergostasio ths Flwrinas;

AQANASAKHS: Einai mia qesh ths Kybernhshs h opoia exei anakoinwqei. Eida oti osoi kathgoroysan thn Kybernhsh otan ginotan h syzhthsh gia to an qa phgaine sth Boylh gia kyrwsh kai antidroysan se ayth th diadikasia, shmera pairnoyn tis antiqetes qeseis. To qema ths Flwrinas syzhthqhke diejodika xqes kai shmera kai sthn armodia Koinoboyleytikh Epitroph. H Kybernhsh gnwrizete oti proxwrhse ston orismo anejarthtoy ektimhth. Yphrje omofwnh apofash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. To ergo ths Flwrinas proxwrei. To ergo ths Flwrinas qa ginei opws exei sxediastei.

Me thn eykairia na sas anakoinwsw oti qa episkefqei ayrio th Flwrina kai th Melith, ystera apo prosklhsh twn forewn ths perioxhs kai ths diakommatikhs epitrophs, kybernhtiko klimakio me epikefalhs thn Ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs ka Papandreoy gia na syzhthsei kai na enhmerwsei gia to parapera xronodiagramma kai gia thn ylopoihsh toy ergoy kai thn kataskeyh toy ergostasioy sth Flwrina.

MOSXOBAS: Qa proxwrhsei ws exei, me to kostos poy anakoinwqhke xqes sth Boylh...;

AQANASAKHS: Apanthsa.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Poia einai h qesh ths Kybernhshs sthn ekklhsh poy ekane h Gewrgianh Kybernhsh na apodokimastoyn oi ekloges poy prokhryjan oi aytonomistes ths Apxazias;

AQANASAKHS: Den to exw dei to qema. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw. Mporw na apanthsw, me bash genikes arxes, alla einai ena eidiko qema poy den to exw koitajei kai den qelw na apanthsw proxeira.

KIAOS: Ayto poy eipate prohgoymenws gia th Flwrina, h Kybernhsh, dhladh, emmenei sto oti oloi zhtoysan na mhn paei sth Boylh kai meta zhtoyn na paei, enw h Kybernhsh elege apo thn arxh oti den qa paei to qema sth Boylh;

AQANASAKHS: Den eipa tipota tetoio egw. O,ti eipa yparxei katagrammeno sta praktika. Eipa ...

KIAOS: Eipate oti "oloi"...

AQANASAKHS: Den eipa "oloi". Eipa pws blepw oti kapoioi oi opoioi yposthrizan ayto, shmera yposthrizoyn ekeino. Den einai "pros qanaton" na yposthrizeis kati allo...

KIAOS: Mporeite na dieykrinisete ean einai kapoioi h oloi, epeidh kai h Kybernhsh elege sthn arxh oti qa paei sth Boylh kai meta oti den qa paei.

AQANASAKHS: H Kybernhsh proxwrei me thn omofwnh apofash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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