Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-01-28

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28.1.98

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

LAKOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, tis teleytaies hmeres parathroyme kapoies synergasies toy Prwqypoyrgoy me Ypoyrgoys -kai oxi mono me Ypoyrgoys, kai me ton Proedro ths Boylhs- oi opoies einai mallon aifnidiastikes. Prokeitai gia synergasies roytinas h o Prwqypoyrgos exei arxisei kapoio kyklo epafwn poy den ton gnwrizoyme;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei synexws tetoioy eidoys synergasies. Oi synergasies aytes entassontai sthn prospaqeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy na dwsei kateyqynseis gia thn proodo toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, gia thn apotelesmatikoterh antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy mas apasxoloyn. Den apoteloyn kati to ektakto, oi synergasies aytes. Me ton Proedro ths Boylhs syzhthse gia thn proodo toy ergoy sth Boylh, ypo thn ennoia ths prowqhshs twn nomoqetikwn prwtoboyliwn poy analambanei h Kybernhsh.

* Synedriazei shmera h Politikh Grammateia...

LAKOPOYLOS: Ti wra;

REPPAS: Stis 19.00 kai h synedriash qa ginei sth Boylh. Alla, ayth einai mia drasthriothta toy kommatos.

* Thn Paraskeyh 30.1 qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph...

LAKOPOYLOS: Me ti qema qa asxolhqei h Politikh Grammateia;

REPPAS: Gia ta politika qemata ths epikairothtas, thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Analogh synedriash, sas exw anakoinwsei oti qa ginei thn Paraskeyh gia thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Einai, dhladh, synanthseis programmatismenes, einai synanthseis poy entassontai sto plaisio twn synergasiwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den einai kati to ejairetiko, kati to idiaitero.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na sxoliasete tis dhlwseis toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ths Bretanias, o opoios synedese thn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy me toys S-300, kata tropo qa elega ypopto kai en oligois filotoyrkiko.

REPPAS: Qa elega oti ejefrase mia proswpikh gnwmh, legontas oti den einai syneth kinhsh h egkatastash twn pyraylwn S-300 sthn Kypro, ayth thn periodo. H qesh ayth den einai qesh ths E.E. Doqhke amesws apanthsh. O Rwsos Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn eipe oti eyqys ej arxhs, oi alles pleyres, ektos ths Toyrkias, diatypwsan th qesh pws efoson yparxei proodos sthn antimetwpish toy Kypriakoy problhmatos h prowqeitai h apostratikopoihsh toy nhsioy, tote mporei na epanejetastei h egkatastash twn pyraylwn. Alla, kati tetoio den einai orato, toylaxiston, ayth thn wra, Etsi, h Rwsia qa antapokriqei sthn ypoxrewsh poy exei na paradwsei toys pyrayloys. O k. Koyk qewrhse pws einai aytonohto dikaiwma ths Kyproy h aytoamyna ths, h epilogh olwn twn meswn, prokeimenoy na amynqei apenanti se enan katakthth, o opoios, me th symperifora toy, den deixnei oti epiqymei lysh sto xronizon Kypriako problhma. Apo kei kai pera einai para polloi paragontes aytoi oi opoioi, kata kairoys, exoyn diatypwsei qesh analogh gia thn topoqethsh twn pyraylwn S-300. Ayto, omws, den allazei th qesh ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs, afoy epishmws, liges hmeres prin, kai pali epibebaiwqhke pws oristikh kai ametakinhth einai h epilogh ths Kybernhshs na topoqethqoyn oi S-300 opws problepei h symfwnia.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Den omilw gia na allajei h qesh ths Kypriakhs Kybernhshs. Omilw mhpws allajei h qesh ths E.E oson afora thn entajiakh poreia.

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo. Ayto to qema oydepote eteqh, ws qema to opoio synartatai me thn proodo twn entajiakwn diadikasiwn ths Kyproy kai den prokeitai na teqei, epishs, twra h sto mellon.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mhpws h Kybernhsh janaskefqhke ayth thn tropologia na thn aposyrei gia na stamathsei thn talaipwria twn Aqhnaiwn;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, h talaipwria ths eqnikhs oikonomias, twn Aqhnaiwn, twn Ellhnwn politwn, einai para poly megalh, otan ta elleimmata twn epixeirhsewn toy Dhmosioy einai se toso ychla epipeda, otan oi epixeirhseis aytes einai zhmiogones, pragma to opoio apobainei se baros toy symferontos olwn twn Ellhnwn politwn. H prwtoboylia thn opoia anelabe h Kybernhsh stoxeyei sto na ejygianei aytes tis problhmatikes epixeirhseis, na tis katasthsei antagwnistikes. Ayto einai pros ofelos olwn. Pisteyoyme oti prepei perissotero ypeyqyna na proseggizoyme ayta ta qemata. Oles oi pleyres exoyme logo. Pisteyw oti h prwtoboylia ths Kybernhshs, h opoia deixnei pws einai diateqeimenh na proxwrhsei se diarqrwtikes tomes, yperbainontas to fobo toy opoioydhpote politikoy kostoys, einai mia prwtoboylia syneth, giati antimetwpizei sygkekrimeno problhma. Problhma to opoio oloi anagnwrizoyme oti yparxei. Den einai mia fantasiwsh ths Kybernhshs. H pragmatikothta einai ameilikth. Yparxoyn aytes oi epixeirhseis, me ta problhmata gia ta opoia exoyme milhsei. Prepei na antimetwpisoyme ayta ta problhmata kai ayto kanei h Kybernhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Alla h katarghsh twn syllogikwn symbasewn den einai...

REPPAS: Yparxei h dynatothta, kyrie Stamatopoyle, na ajiopoihqei ayto to xroniko diasthma, wste mesw twn syllogikwn diapragmateysewn, me to isxyon mexri shmera, dhladh, kaqestws, na antimetwpistoyn ta problhmata poy yparxoyn. Ayto to opoio leei h Kybernhsh einai oti den mporoyme, pleon, na menoyme apaqeis kai adiaforoi apenanti se mia pragmatikothta, h opoia einai qliberh gi aytes tis shmantikes epixeirhseis toy Dhmosioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh syzhteitai sth Boylh to Forologiko Nomosxedio, mhpws h Kybernhsh, se ayto to nomosxedio, balei kapoia tropologia, kapoia diatajh, poy na katargei ayth thn paranomh poy perase gia to ypoyrgeio Gewrgias, poy xarise ta 200 dis;

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh to ena qema me to allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Forologiko nomosxedio einai.

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, akomh kai meta th xqesinobradinh synanthsh me toys ekproswpoys ths GSEE, apo tis dhlwseis fanhke kaqara oti emmenoyn stis qeseis toys, einai anypoxwrhtoi. Ti skeftetai na kanei h Kybernhsh; Yparxei kati kainoyrgio, na to akoysoyme, shmera, apo to stoma to diko sas;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh oti exei skefqei na kanei to exei kanei dhmosiws gnwsto. Proxwraei me thn kataqesh ayths ths diatajhs nomoy, sthn allagh twn mexri shmera isxyontwn, ws pros tis diadikasies me tis opoies qa ginontai oi allages toy genikoy Kanonismoy proswpikoy, se orismenes kai sygkekrimenes epixeirhseis toy Dhmosioy.

KOGIANNHS: Otan, mexri prin apo ligoys mhnes, briskotan se ejelijh o Koinwnikos Dialogos, h Kybernhsh den gnwrize to sobaro ayto problhma pollwn DEKO, gia na to qesei sto trapezi;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei, toylaxiston, pente fores se ayth thn erwthsh. Ston Koinwniko Dialogo, sto kefalaio gia thn Anaptyjh, egine dekto apo oles tis pleyres, oti einai anagkaio na proxwrhsoyme ston eksygxronismo twn DEKO. Ayth akribws h arxh, h ajia an qelete, ayth h politikh qesh egine omofwnws dekth, san epitaktikh anagkh, apo oles tis pleyres. Proxwroyme sthn ejeidikeysh ayths ths genikhs arxhs, thn opoia oloi paradexqhkame. Ki ayto ginetai me enan tetoio tropo, wste na exoyn logo kai symmetoxh sth diadikasia kai oi Ekproswpoi twn ergazomenwn, mesw twn syllogikwn diapragmateysewn, gi ayto to xroniko diasthma to opoio kaloyntai ki ekeinoi na ajiopoihsoyn.

KOGIANNHS: Den qa htan skopimo, tote, prin kataqesete thn tropologia na prohghqei o dialogos kai oxi na akoloyqhsei;

REPPAS: H diatajh ayth aposkopei -epanalambanw- sthn ejygiansh twn DEKO. Qeloyme na tis katasthsoyme antagwnistikes. Sto pneyma ekeinwn twn arxwn kai paradoxwn kineitai kai ayth h prwtoboylia mas.

MOSXOBAS: Eipate, nwritera, oti h Kybernhsh proxwra yperbainontas to politiko kostos. Wstoso, hdh, shmeiwqhke mia ypanaxwrhsh, kaqws h tropologia poy arxika aforoyse oles tis DEKO, perioristhke stis problhmatikes kai telika katelhje na afora mono tesseris DEKO. Kai to paradexqhke oti synista ypanaxwrhsh kai o Yfypoyrgos Ergasias. Kai ena deytero erwthma. Akoysa se mia radiofwnikh synenteyjh ton k. Pantelh Oikonomoy, shmera, poy ejefrase th gnwmh oti: "Me ayth th meqodo, ginetai h arxh gia na pernane kapoies asxetes tropologies se alla nomosxedia".

REPPAS: Gia to prwto qema den antilambanomai poia einai h erwthsh sas. Epaineitai thn Kybernhsh giati deixnei oti exei diaqesh na synennohqei me toys ergazomenoys kai na proseggisei tis dikes toys topoqethseis.

MOSXOBAS: Den labate ypoch sas to politiko kostos, kyrie Ypoyrge;

REPPAS: Eipame oti den einai dynaton, gi ayto kaname ayth thn tropopoihsh, gia Epixeirhseis poy einai, hdh, shmera, sto Xrhmatisthrio, na proxwraei mesw ayths ths diadikasias h allagh sto Geniko Kanonismo Proswpikoy twn epixeirhsewn aytwn. Den afora mono tesseris DEKO, afora perissoteres. Oles ekeines, oi opoies einai zhmiogones, einai elleimmatikes kai ekeines oi opoies epidotoyntai apo ton kratiko Proypologismo. Exoyn grafei ston Typo ta onomata twn epixeirhsewn aytwn. Apo kei kai pera den dikaiologeitai fobos, san ayton poy ejefrase o kalos synadelfos, gia to oti h meqodos ayth eisagetai to prwton kai ayto ginetai doliws, mono kai mono, gia na egkainiazoyme ena neo kaqestws, dia twn asxetwn, dhladh, tropologiwn na ryqmizoyme qemata. Kaqe allo. Gnwrizete para poly kala oti ayth h diadikasia, h opoia den einai swsth, xrhsimopoieito sto parelqon kata koron. Exoyme kanei megalh prospaqeia, me entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, kai to fainomeno ayto exei syrriknwqei ews ejafanistei. Gi ayto, loipon, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh den nomizw oti dikaiologeitai ayth h kritikh.

PARIS: Pisteyei pragmatika h Kybernhsh oti qa mporoyse na katasthsei DEKO, opws p.x. h Olympiakh, pragmatika antagwnistikes meta apo toso xronia sysswreymenoy xreoys;

REPPAS: Aytos einai o stoxos. Gnwrizete oti yparxei, hdh, se ejelijh programma ejygianshs gia thn O.A. Kat' epanalhch eipa oti, an den mporoyn na ginoyn kerdofores, toylaxiston, na katastoyn oso ginetai ligotero zhmiogones oi epixeirhseis aytes. Den exoyme froydes elpides. Gnwrizoyme, omws, apo thn allh oti yparxoyn periqwria beltiwshs sth leitoyrgia twn epixeirhsewn aytwn. Kai sthn kateyqynsh ayth kinoymaste.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw: Apo to prwi diakineitai ena keimeno kapoiwn synadelfwn sas boyleytwn toy PASOK, anypografo keimeno. Den jerw an to exete labei ki an exete na kanete kapoio sxolio.

REPPAS: Den to exw ypoch moy, alla gnwrizw apoceis poy diatypwnoyn synadelfoi boyleytes kai alla stelexh toy PASOK, mesw synenteyjewn, mesw dhlwsewn, mesw omiliwn poy kanoyn. Ayto einai kati, to opoio qa elega oti apotelei kanona sthn leitoyrgia ths politikhs zwhs ths xwras mas.

LAKOPOYLOS: Skeftetai o Prwqypoyrgos na proxwrhsei tis epomenes hmeres se anasxhmatismo ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei kai epanalambanw mia akomh fora: Den yparxei tetoio qema, den yparxei kan tetoia skech.

Eyxaristw poly.

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