BRIEFING 13-05-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 13/5/96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA

STAMATOPOYLOS: Syggnwmh poy sas diakoptw, dhladh;

REPPAS: Ta erga poy ginontai stis 13 Perifereies ths xwras me thn eyqynh kai thn epopteia twn organwn ths Perifereias. Epishs, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph qa asxolhqei kai pali me ton nomo peri eyqynhs Ypoyrgwn.
* Thn Pempth (16.5.96) qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, to opoio qa asxolhqei me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Aigaioy. Ayta apo pleyras moy. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Giati enw ekleise o Proedros toy PASOK "ranteboy" me ton Grammatea, den exei kleisei akoma "ranteboy" me ton Prwqypoyrgo; Den qa htan pio swsto na enhmerwqei prwta apo ton Prwqypoyrgo;

REPPAS: O Proedros toy PASOK einai Proedros toy Kinhmatos. Qewrhse pws o kyklos twn synanthsewn tis opoies epidiwkei na exei me ta stelexh toy PASOK, prepei na einai kyklos o opoios qa jekinhsei apo ton Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs. Einai kati poy den to krinoyme, oyte to sxoliazoyme. Afora tis syzhthseis oi opoies ginontai sta plaisia toy kommatikoy dialogoy en ocei toy Synedrioy. H Kybernhsh den exei logo na sxoliasei, na ajiologhsei h na bgalei symperasmata apo th roh aytwn twn syzhthsewn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mas eipate prohgoymenws oti h Kybernhtikh Epitroph qa asxolhqei me ta Perifereiaka Erga kai to nomo peri eyqynhs Ypoyrgwn. Den qa eprepe na syzhthsei kai ayto to qema, poy exei anacei fwties, to gnwsto qema toy OTE; Den thn apasxolei to qema ayto thn Kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Asfalws thn apasxolei thn Kybernhsh, kyrie Stamatopoyle. Kai h Kybernhsh exei mia synergasia me th Dioikhsh toy Organismoy mesw toy armodioy Ypoyrgeioy. Alla kyriws o Prwqypoyrgos - opws gnwrizete - eixe prosfatws synanthsh me ton Proedro toy D.S. toy OTE k. Dhmhtrh Papoylia. Asfalws kai parakoloyqei to qema ayto h Kybernhsh. Thn apasxolei idiaiterws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den qa eprepe, omws, na thn apasxolhsei se ena organo ychlo, se ychlo epipedo, opws einai to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai h Kybernhtikh Epitroph;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, yparxei Prwqypoyrgos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai.

REPPAS: Epipedo panw apo to epipedo sto opoio kineitai o Prwqypoyrgos, den yparxei sta plaisia ths Kybernhshs. Yparxei endiaferon ths Kybernhshs gia to sygkekrimeno qema poy qesate. To opoio endiaferon - epanalambanw kai pali - einai entono kai exei na kanei me thn yperaspish toy dhmosioy symferontos kai thn, apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs, epideijh diaqeshs me kaqe tropo, wste opoia erwthmatika h amfibolies dhmioyrgoyntai na antimetwpizo- ntai sth gennhsh toys. Giati h Kybernhsh epiqymei h Dikaiosynh na kanei aproskopta kai aperispasth to ergo ths, wste na mhn yparxei h paramikrh skia sto dhmosio bio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den qa eprepe omws, ektos apo ton Proedro toy OTE poy einai kainoyrgios, na eblepe o Prwqypoyrgos kai ton Geniko Dieyqynth, ton k. Lamproy;

REPPAS: Exei epikoinwnia kai me ton k. Lamproy. Yparxei synergasia. Allwste, o Proedros toy D.S. toy OTE k. D. Papoylias kai o Genikos Dieyqynths toy Organismoy k. P. Lamproy ypografoyn apo koinoy thn ekdoqeisa xqesinh anakoinwsh apo ton OTE.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ton k. Lamproy, o k. Prwqypoyrgos ton exei dei kat'idian;

REPPAS: Sas eipa: O Prwqypoyrgos exei epikoinwnia kai me ton k. Lamproy. Yparxei synergasia. Exei synergasqei kai me ton k. Lamproy o k. Prwqypoyrgos, kyrie Stamatopoyle. Allwste - epanalambanw - kai o Proedros kai o Genikos Dieyqynths toy OTE synypografoyn thn anakoinwsh, h opoia apotelei proion synergasias twn dyo andrwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Thn anakoinwsh, thn ypografoyn. Ton ena eide mono.

REPPAS: Ma, sas eipa: Exei synanthqei kai me ton k. Lamproy o k. Prwqypoyrgos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den exei anakoinwqei, omws.

REPPAS: Polles synanthseis den anakoinwnontai. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti den ginontai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, ti; Einai mystikes;

REPPAS: Oxi, den einai mystikes. Einai syzhthseis kai synanthseis oi opoies ginontai sta plaisia ths antimetwpishs twn problhmatwn gia thn prowqhsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Den apoteloyn eidhsh oi synanthseis aytes. Eidhsh yparxei otan afora kapoia apofash, kapoia ejelijh sto kybernhtiko ergo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: En pash periptwsei, o OTE qa dwsei ta ypoloipa triakosies xiliades chfiaka stis idies etaireies;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoia apofash ayth thn wra poy syzhtoyme. O OTE exei Dioikhtiko Symboylio. Otan teqei ayto to qema, qa labei tis apofaseis toy me bash to symferon toy Organismoy.

EYSTAQIOY: Ep' aytoy k. Ypoyrge: Epeidh meta to xqesino dhmosieyma ths KAQHMERINHS arxise ena "mparaz" antidrasewn toso entos toy kybernwntos kommatos, oso kai apo to xwro ths Antipoliteyshs, ektos apo to Kommoynistiko Komma poy den exw yp' och moy kapoia anakoinwsh toy. Qa hqela na rwthsw: Ti skeftetai na kanei h Kybernhsh meta tis apokalyceis kai meta thn parembash ths Dikaiosynhs shmera to prwi; Kat' arxhn, h boylhsh poia einai, sto qema poy eipe o k. Stamatopoylos; Qa proxwrhsei sthn ypografh ths symbashs h oxi;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh endiaferetai na lamcei h alhqeia. Dioti qewrei oti o dhmosios bios einai synwnymos ths diafaneias kai ths ejyphrethshs toy dhmosioy symferontos. Opotedhpote prokyptei opoiodhpote qema, einai aparaithto h Dikaiosynh me ta organa ths na dinei apanthseis, wste na mhn - epanalambanw kai pali - paramenei h paramikrh skia se tetoia qemata poy exoyn megalh shmasia. H Kybernhsh endiaferetai na prowqhqei h poreia anadiorganwshs kai eksygxronismoy toy OTE. To Dioikhtiko Symboylio toy OTE, sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn toy, qa labei tis apofaseis toy.

EYSTAQIOY: H kateyqynsh wstoso ths Kybernhshs - me sygxwreite gia thn parembash poy kanw jana - oso diarkei h dikastikh ereyna, poia einai; Einai na anablhqei h opoiadhpote syzhthsh gia to qema ths symbashs;

REPPAS: H kateyqynsh ths Kybernhshs einai mia kai monh: Na yphrethqei to dhmosio symferon kai bebaiws h anaptyjiakh prospaqeia toy OTE, ypo thn proypoqesh oti ola qa ginoyn me plhrh diaygeia thn opoia apaitei h diaxeirish toy dhmosioy xrhmatos h h lhch apofasewn tetoias shmasias.
Sas eyxaristw poly.

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 13.5.1996

Synergasia diarkeias mias wras kai eikosi leptwn (13.40 - 15.00) eixe shmera o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Shmiths me ton Ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs k. Eyaggelo Benizelo. Meta th synanthsh, o k. Benizelos, ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy, dhlwse stoys dhmosiografoys:

"Eixame mia analytikh synergasia me ton Prwqypoyrgo, kat'arxas gia qemata armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs. H synergasia eixe ws antikeimeno ta nomosxedia poy exei epejergasqei kai poy prowqei to Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs".

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gia to qema toy OTE syzhthsate kaqoloy, kyrie Ypoyrge; Shmera steilate ena eggrafo ston Eisaggelea...

BENIZELOS: Enhmerwsa ton k. Prwqypoyrgo gia to eggrafo moy pros ton Eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy, me to opoio zhthsa na kinhqoyn oi nomimes diadikasies gia thn plhrh dialeykansh ths ypoqeshs ayths. Kai anaferomai sto dhmosieyma ths KAQHMERINHS gia thn yparjh trapezikwn logariasmwn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Prin thn apostolh toy eggrafoy, eixate epikoinwnhsei me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

BENIZELOS: Oxi, ayto einai aytonohth antidrash ths Kybernhshs dia toy Ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa janasyzhthqei o nomos peri eyqynhs Ypoyrgwn;

BENIZELOS: Katalhjame s'ena sxhma, meta apo protash moy, me ton k. Prwqypoyrgo o opoios qa enhmerwsei ayrio (14.5.96) kai thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Kinoymaste sto plaisio to opoio exoyme qesei, lambanontas ypoch mas oles tis eyaisqhsies kai toys qesmikoys stoxoys poy prepei na ejyphretei to nomosxedio ayto. Qa anakoinwsw leptomereies stoys syntaktes toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs, otan einai etoimh h diatypwsh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gia tis allages;

BENIZELOS: Gia thn poreia toy nomosxedioy aytoy. Alla qa hqela na epifylaxqoyme mexri kai thn ayrianh synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Proteina mia lysh qesmikh kai nomotexnikh, h opoia lambanei ypoch ths ola ta dedomena kai egine ayth dekth kai apo ton Prwqypoyrgo.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gia to qema toy OTE exoyme kati parapanw, kyrie Ypoyrge;

BENIZELOS: Oxi. Ta alla ta gnwrizoyn oi armodies eisaggelikes kai dikastikes arxes. Emeis, ws Kybernhsh, epiqymoyme to aytonohto: Na mhn yparxoyn skies sto dhmosio bio kai na dialeykanqei plhrws h ypoqesh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Pws sxoliazete thn apocinh synanthsh Papandreoy - Skandalidh;

BENIZELOS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Qa mas pei o k. Skandalidhs to apotelesma ths synanthshs ayths. Einai, fantazomai, poly shmantiko na jeroyme thn epiqymia kai th qesh kai th stash toy Proedroy toy PASOK.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Eseis qa synanthqeite me ton Proedro toy PASOK;

BENIZELOS: Den exw ypoch moy kati tetoio, den exei kanonisqei kati tetoio.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Syzhthsate ta eswkommatika kai thn poreia pros to Synedrio;

BENIZELOS: Opws einai aytonohto, syzhthsame kai gia ta eswkommatika zhthmata me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Oi synomilies moy me ton Prwqypoyrgo einai panta poly filikes kai poly gonimes. Giati yparxei enas koinos stoxos oloy toy stelexikoy dynamikoy toy PASOK, poy einai h enothta, h sobarothta toy xwroy kai h ikanothta toy na askhsei thn ejoysia kai na diekdikhsei th nikh stis epomenes ekloges. Kai ekei prepei na synteinoyme. Exw de proswpika - to lew ayto - thn entypwsh oti dhmioyrgoyme mia eikona, tis teleytaies ebdomades, h opoia einai arnhtikh kai h opoia adikei kai ton kaqena apo mas kai oloys mas mazi. Kai adikei fysika kai to ergo ths Kybernhshs, to opoio einai para poly ploysio. Kai to lew ayto meta apo mia syzhthsh gia swreia nomosxediwn kai prwtoboyliwn toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs, dhladh ths Kybernhshs.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eixate diatypwsei mia protash gia "moratorioym" sto eswkommatiko pedio. Den gnwrizoyme an th qesate sto Ektelestiko Grafeio kai an th qesate ston k. Shmith. Kai an th qesate, poia htan h antidrash;

BENIZELOS: Ma, h protash moy gia "moratorioym" einai mia palha moy protash. Thn exw kanei edw kai arketes ebdomades pia kai afora ton tropo ths pros ta ejw emfanishs mas. Apo ekei kai pera, oloi teinoyme kai prepei na teinoyme sthn anazhthsh lysewn, oi opoies na einai bebaiws safeis, na mhn afhnoyn apories ston ellhniko lao kai na diasfalizoyn th sobarothta mas kai thn ikanothta mas na kerdisoyme th maxh ths Kybernhshs kai th maxh twn eklogwn. Kai qa thn kerdisoyme, dioti den yparxei ajiopisth Antipoliteysh, h opoia na proteinei kati to opoio na sygkinei ton ellhniko lao.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Thn eishghsh ths Trimeloys Epitrophs toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy, thn jerete, fantazomai. Poia einai h apoch sas;

BENIZELOS: Den hmoyn sthn teleytaia synedriash, giati eixa ekproswphsei to Ektelestiko Grafeio sthn teleth anagoreyshs toy Basoy Lyssaridh, ws epitimoy didaktoros. Apo ekei kai pera, qa moy epitrecete na epifylaxqw.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h epistolh poy eixate steilei ston Prwqypoyrgo, eteqh kaqoloy ws antikeimeno syzhthshs;

BENIZELOS: Oxi.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Eyxaristoyme poly, kyrie Ypoyrge.

BENIZELOS: Kai egw eyxaristw.

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