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U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing #38, 99-03-26

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From: The Department of State Foreign Affairs Network (DOSFAN) at <http://www.state.gov>


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U.S. Department of State
Daily Press Briefing

I N D E X

Friday, March 26, 1999

Briefer: James P. Rubin

SERBIA (KOSOVO)
1-3		US Condemns Latest Instances of Serbian Repression
3		Refugees Flee Fighting in Kosovo/US Assistance to Refugees
5-6		NATO Countries Support of NATO Action in
		  Kosovo/Greece/Italy
6-7,9		Secretary Albright's Remarks to the Serbian People/Purpose
10		Senator Helm's on Supporting Opposition Groups to Overthrow
		  Milosevic
8		Secretary Albright's Contacts with Foreign Ministers

FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA 3-4 Update on Situation in Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia

BOSNIA 4,9-10 Reports of Serb MiG-29s Shot Down over Bosnia 10 Reports Pilots Captured

RUSSIA 4 Demonstrations in Front of US Embassy in Moscow 4 Russian Opposition to NATO Action in Kosovo 5 Secretary Albright's Conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov 5 US-Russian Relations/Discussions on Range of Issues 5 UN Security Council Vote on Russian Resolution on Kosovo 7-8 Canceled Visit by Prime Minister Primakov to US/Timing/Decision

GREECE/TURKEY 8 Concern Serbian Aggression in Kosovo Could Increase Tension in the Wider Region 8 Secretary Albright's Conversation with Greek Foreign Minister

UKRAINE 8-9 Foreign Minister's Travel to Belgrade

CHINA 10-11-12 US to Sponsor China Resolution at UN Commission on Human Rights 11-12 White House Announces Visit of Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji 12 Secretary Albright's Conversation with Chinese Foreign Minister

NORTH KOREA 12 Next Round of Missile Talks, March 29-30, in Pyongyang

MIDDLE EAST PEACE PROCESS 12-13 European Union Statement on Peace Process


U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

DPB #38

FRIDAY, MARCH 26, 1999, 1:45 P.M.

(ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)

MR. RUBIN: Greetings and welcome to the State Department briefing. Let me start on the subject of Kosovo. The United States is extremely alarmed by reports of an escalating pattern of Serbian attacks on Kosovar Albanian civilians. For example, we have received reports that yesterday Serbian forces executed 20 ethnic Albanians in the village of Goden. Also yesterday, Serbian security forces reportedly attacked civilians in the Podujevo area, and there are ominous indications that men of fighting age were separated from their families.

The United States Government wants to send a clear message to those responsible for the actions of the Yugoslav army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs that the United States is using national technical means to watch unfolding events in Kosovo. We will continue to work with the prosecutor of the International Tribunal to assist her efforts to prosecute anyone responsible for ordering and carrying out war crimes, crimes against humanity or genocide in Kosovo.

The United States also reminds those responsible for the actions of the Yugoslav Army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Kosovo that attacks directed against the civilian population, the summary execution of detained persons and wanton destruction or devastation not justified by military necessity are war crimes under international law. War crimes, along with genocide and crimes against humanity, that may be committed in Kosovo are within the jurisdiction of the International Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia. Such crimes have no statute of limitations.

Commanding officers and political leaders can be held responsible for the actions of their subordinates. This is spelled out in the statute of the Tribunal adopted by the United Nations Security Council in May 1993.

QUESTION: Would the Administration consider holding Mr. Milosevic responsible for the atrocities committed in the last Balkans war?

MR. RUBIN: As far as the Bosnia war is concerned, Barry, you've asked this question before. The answer remains the same; and that is that it's up to the Tribunal to follow the evidence where it leads. We would support whatever decisions the Tribunal makes in that regard.

QUESTION: Joe Lockhart today was unable -- either by lack of knowledge or lack of sure knowledge or whatever -- to specify any of the reported atrocities. There's all sort of horror stories coming out, like teachers having their throats slit in front of their students. I know the Secretary herself used that phrase yesterday. I thought maybe some information has come to the State Department.

MR. RUBIN: There are increasing reports of atrocities against Albanian civilians in Kosovo. As I indicated, we are extremely alarmed by these reports, and we are putting a great deal of resources and effort into checking these out as quickly as we can and as thoroughly as we can. Any and all evidence of atrocities will be turned over to the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia.

We do know the Serbian authorities moved to close down Koha Ditore, the largest Albanian language newspaper. A security guard at the newspaper was shot and killed. Journalists were reportedly detained, and the newspaper's publisher has gone into hiding. We condemn this in the strongest possible terms - this latest assault on the independent media in Kosovo.

QUESTION: Are there any reports suggesting the Albanians, like the KLA, perhaps, are also committing atrocities in this heated environment?

MR. RUBIN: We don't have any such reports.

QUESTION: You made a strong point about how the United States is using national technical means to keep an eye on this. Is the United States in a position to perhaps provide the public with some visuals that could underscore your concern and your evidence?

MR. RUBIN: Let me say, the purpose of this statement is very simple: that the people responsible for these kinds of atrocities, if, indeed, they are going on, need to understand that our resources will be made available to the Tribunal for prosecution. It may not mean that we are in a position to provide that information immediately, but because there is no statute of limitations on war crimes or crimes against humanity or genocide, and given the resources of our national technical means, what these people need to know is that we are going to use our resources. We're going to make them available, and they may prove significant in any prosecution that might result.

QUESTION: Is there anything the United States or NATO is prepared to do to stop it, other than just watch it on spy satellites?

MR. RUBIN: I would categorically reject the premise of your question. Right now, the United States Government and its NATO allies are engaged in military operations directed at those Serbian forces that are conducting these kind of operations. That is doing a lot more than standing by and offering information.

QUESTION: All indications are that there have been no attacks on the tanks or forces in Kosovo; that all the attacks are still directed at large, hard targets, air defenses and so forth. Why aren't you going after the Serb forces in Kosovo?

MR. RUBIN: Your indications are incorrect.

QUESTION: From your knowledge of Yugoslavia and the way the system works, do you think that these attacks - if, in fact, they're being carried out - could be done without the knowledge and direct support of Milosevic?

MR. RUBIN: I'm not going to speculate on the chain of command. Clearly, the decision to conduct an offensive in Kosovo is one that is taken from the top. We have no question about that. With respect to any particular atrocity or any particular crackdown or any particular arrest, I'm not in a position to speculate.

QUESTION: Jamie, does the State Department have any current figures on the numbers of refugees which have been leaving Kosovo - where they're going? And how concerned are you that these large numbers of refugees will potentially destabilize neighboring countries?

MR. RUBIN: We are concerned. Let me say, according to the High Commissioner for Refugees, people continue to flee the fighting in Kosovo. There are no reports of large movements. The Macedonian border remains open, and an estimated 16,000 to 20,000 Kosovo refugees are now in Macedonia. The vast majority of these entered since the escalation of the Serbian offensive against the Kosovar population.

UNHCR reports that approximately 400 refugees have crossed the border into Albania via unauthorized border crossings as of last night. In other areas in the region, UNHCR reports that approximately 1,300 have crossed into Bulgaria and Turkey. Some draft-age Serbs may have crossed into Bosnia. As of today, UNHCR reports total number of displaced as follows: within Kosovo, 260,000; Montenegro, 25,000; Serbia, 30,000; Albania, 19,000; Macedonia, 16, 000 to 20,000; Bosnia, 12,000.

The State Department, working with AID and the Office of Foreign Disaster Assistance, continue to redirect relief supplies and support staff to the region to support the influx of new Kosovar refugees. For example, the International Medical Corps redirected funds to preposition five mobile health clinics in Macedonia and six mobile clinics in Albania. UNCHR and NGOs are also currently expanding their operations in Macedonia, Albania and other countries in the region.

In Kosovo, our reports are that while local NGOs, such as the Mother Theresa Society, have attempted to make some deliveries of aid to displaced persons. The vast majority of aid distribution has been shut down as a result of the Serbian military and police to action. So that is the humanitarian situation.

QUESTION: Could you address the second part of the question about the US Government's concern about the destabilization of around from Yugoslavia's -

MR. RUBIN: Well, I know yesterday this issue came up in the context of the disturbance at the US Embassy in Macedonia. I think that situation has stabilized. We have authorized departure for American personnel; that is a voluntary departure. It is our judgment that that is the appropriate response. The safety and welfare of all Americans in Macedonia is of paramount interest to us.

I think that was a demonstration by a predominantly ethnic Serb crowd that got out of hand. We believe that Ambassador Hill has reported today the situation has quieted down substantially there as of now.

QUESTION: Can you tell us what you know about the shooting down of the Migs in Bosnia --where they might have been headed and what they might have been armed with?

QUESTION: Can we continue on demonstrations? Can you give us a rundown about other places, other embassies where there have been demonstrations? To what extent any fences or outer walls --

MR. RUBIN: I know there was a demonstration in front of the Moscow Embassy today, but it was peaceful. I'm not aware of any other particular demonstrations.

As far as your question is concerned, my information is that two Serb Mig- 29s were shot down over Bosnia. It was an act of desperation to move against SFOR in Bosnia according to the information from the Pentagon that I have, and the planes were shot down.

QUESTION: How were they shot down? Was it a shoulder fired or -

MR. RUBIN: They were shot down by aircraft. That's all I know.

QUESTION: Jamie, does this have any implications for the Dayton peace accords?

MR. RUBIN: No, I think the fact that they were unable, even through this act of desperation, to interfere with the SFOR operations is a sign that the Bosnia peace process continues, although tensions are obviously higher.

QUESTION: Is the fallout from the initial days of air strikes greater or more worrisome than you had expected? I mean, not just the refugees but the attacks on not only the American embassies, but other embassies as well, and particularly the extent to which Russia seems to be going to disengage itself from the United States and the West. Apparently, there's some talk in Moscow about Russia paying off its soviet-era debt to Yugoslavia. They've halted, once again, consideration of START II, cooperation on Y2K, the kicked out the NATO reps in Moscow.

MR. RUBIN: You didn't mention all the other stuff I mentioned yesterday; let me do that. Let me say that we expected Russian opposition. They've been very clear with us that they oppose the use of air power in Kosovo. They did, however, recognize the value of threatening the use of force in the hopes of convincing President Milosevic to make a peace agreement. We don't believe you can go about threatening without being prepared to carry it out; that is our view.

Secretary Albright had a lengthy conversation with Foreign Minister Ivanov yesterday afternoon. I think she felt it was a good conversation; that both she and he understood the importance of US-Russian relations. Clearly, the Russian Government has signaled they do not want to see an isolation as the result of their differences with us on Kosovo. Foreign Minister also made clear they're not going to pursue transfers of arms in his press conference.

You mentioned things that aren't happening; I've mentioned a few that are, which is that the CFE talks are continuing, the IMF officials are going to go to Moscow to work on economic matters, the Russian officials worked with us here on the non-proliferation mattes with respect to Iran, on the highly enriched uranium discussions, where we signed an agreement. So clearly, it's going to be a mixed bag. There will be some things they work with us on.

With respect to NATO, the decision was obviously made to ask the officials from the NATO Information Office to depart. Let's remember, those were public information officials. Discussions continue at various levels with the Russians. START II is something that's been on and off the agenda for a long, long time. At the end of the day, we cannot let this disagreement with Russia that's a difference of principle interfere with our decision about what was the right course of events in Kosovo, what was the right choice.

We couldn't stand by and watch the offensive that was being conducted that was likely to escalate without taking any action simply because the Russians didn't agree. I think that view is very clearly expressed by the Security Council today, when 12 members of the Security Council refused to go along with the Russian position on this. So I think most of the world understands that the crisis in Kosovo is a serious one that justifies action. But we and the Russians will try to move on and get beyond this disagreement, as we pursue the greater interests we have with Russia.

QUESTION: What's going on with the Italians and the Greeks? And how is that the Administration officials are able to say that all of NATO is one big happy family when there's comments coming out of both those capitals saying that they want the bombings stopped, or at least they want the Contact Group to meet again to talk?

MR. RUBIN: First of all, "one big happy family" hasn't come out of my mouth. But let me say this, NATO is an alliance of democracies. In a democracy, you're going to have dissident voices; that is the nature of democracy. People are going to speak out; they're going to have different nuances.

What I'm saying is that in the concrete policy channels of Brussels and in our bilateral discussions, both the Greeks and the Italians have been supportive of continuing the course that NATO has chosen. That doesn't mean that their officials won't express concerns. They may express them one way or another.

What matters to us is that the unity in the North Atlantic Council that Secretary General Solana needs to work with in order to keep the bombing and military operation running continues, even while some officials in Greece at some time may say certain things while others say other things. I would note that the Defense Minister pointed out that he does support the military operation. The Italians yesterday started off the day expressing concern that the offensive had stopped by the Serbs and, therefore, the bombing should stop. Well, as you can tell from the questioning we've had today, that's clearly not the case. And I think by the end of the day the Italians made clear they intended to fulfill their responsibilities.

So in an alliance of democracies, I would expect there to be occasional voices where the nuance and the emphasis is on a different syllable - but when it comes to the decisions that have to be made in the decision-making councils, those have proceeded without any real adjustment.

QUESTION: Turning to the Kosovar Albanians, now that NATO is involved what guarantees does the US have that at the conclusion of all of this, the Kosovar Albanians won't change their mind and say that they'll settle for nothing short of independence?

MR. RUBIN: Clearly, the conduct of the war by the Serb authorities makes its harder for the Kosovar Albanians to not take the position that you have described. On the other hand, we have worked very closely with them in recent weeks. Secretary Albright has been in regular touch with some of the leaders; Senator Dole has been in regular touch with them on our behalf; and other officials are now talking to them.

I think right now they're concerned more about the offensive operations in Kosovo than what would happen after three years if there were a peace process. But clearly, the resentment will build with these offensive operations.

Our view remains the same - we think the right course is the peace plan. The Kosovar Albanians have signed the peace plan and we've received no indication that they intend to walk away from that signature.

QUESTION: Jamie, can I ask you what was Secretary Albright's purpose, the President's as well, in making those telecasts or whatever they are to Serbia?

MR. RUBIN: Well, I think you've received a copy of the statement that she made, and I think the purpose speaks for itself. I think what it is is an attempt to make clear to the people of Serbia, who don't receive a lot of independent information, that the United States does not have any quarrel with the people of Serbia. We have a quarrel with the policies of its leadership.

Some of you have asked how this information got out, so let me pass that on. These remarks were sent out live via a USIA satellite in both digital and analog formats. A number of broadcasters in the region were informed of the transmission, as were Serbian media outlets. Individual owners of satellite dishes in Serbia and elsewhere were able to pull down the signal. The Secretary's remarks were video streamed and disseminated via the Internet to individuals and media outlets in Serbia and the region. The message is currently being repeated on the USIA satellite, as well as on Voice of America and Radio Free Europe broadcasts. Although we don't have exact numbers - and we won't be able to have exact numbers - we are confident that the message by the Secretary in Serbo-Croatian will be reached by a significant population in Yugoslavia and the surrounding areas.

We hope that they, who have only received the kind of propaganda coming off Serbian television, will now understand the motivations of NATO actions in - -

QUESTION: Is the US trying to - is the Secretary trying to incite or encourage the people of Serbia to get rid of their leader?

MR. RUBIN: That is not what the message contains; there's no suggestion of that.

QUESTION: Well, we read the words; and the words tell the Serbs that he, not NATO, is responsible for the bombs falling on them.

MR. RUBIN: Right, and remember what they're hearing from him. They're hearing from him that only the West is out to do x, y and z, and they're receiving propaganda. We're trying to counter that propaganda.

QUESTION: Clarify something on the canceled Clinton-Primakov summit. President Clinton on Tuesday morning stated that he was looking forward to substantial talks with Primakov. Saying that, he obviously must have assumed that the Russians would view it as a fait accompli if the bombings would start. At exactly the same time between 11:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m., the Vice President called Primakov to effectively tell him that the air war in the Balkans would commence most likely during Primakov's stay in Washington, effectively dis-inviting him. How does this fit together?

MR. RUBIN: Well, I wouldn't see it that way at all. I think we made very clear that the decision not to come was Primakov's decision. We didn't have a problem with Primakov coming here unless he had a problem with it. The extent of our candor and openness with the Russians was such that we let him know that we couldn't assure him that the bombing wouldn't take place when he was here. So he had to make a decision. But we would have been fine and happy and satisfied if the Prime Minister came here and continued the work we were doing, which is what the President was pointing out.

Meanwhile, as part of the closeness of the relationship, the Vice President was talking directly to the Prime Minister, letting him know that if this was a problem for him that in the interest of candor and advance consultation and transparency that he ought to know that the air campaign could begin while he was in Washington.

QUESTION: Do I understand you correctly that there never was any understanding before Primakov came that during his stay there would be no commencing of bombings?

MR. RUBIN: The schedule was set many days in advance. The Holbrooke mission did not fail until that phone call. Secretary Albright had been informing Ivanov daily about the work of Ambassador Holbrooke; and it wasn't until Ambassador Holbrooke was instructed to leave Belgrade that the trigger for air strikes began. So prior to that time it was an open question as to when that would happen. As a result of Ambassador Holbrooke being unable to move President Milosevic we consulted, in the interest of transparency and the close relationship we have, with Russia and they made their decision.

QUESTION: Yes, I want to get back to Greece. Both the President and Secretary Albright used an argument during their messages that there is a possibility of a confrontation between Greece and Turkey from Kosovo situation. This provoked some statements from Greek officials even the Prime Minister, the President of the republic. How do you explain that?

MR. RUBIN: Yes, we are not suggesting that Greece and Turkey are going to attack each other; that is not the point. What we are suggesting is as the pressures demonstrated by this conflict in Kosovo could spread, that pressure will build on Greece and Turkey in the event of the war spreading. So given the concern we have about Greece and Turkey, the close relationship we have with Greece and Turkey, we are concerned about any situation that could increase pressures on them of many different kinds. But we don't have any specific desire to suggest that Greece or Turkey are going to go to war with each other.

QUESTION: Did the Secretary have any contacts with Greek officials there in the last 24 hours?

MR. RUBIN: Two days ago, she spoke to the Greek Foreign Minister.

QUESTION: Jamie, can you give us a sense as to who the Secretary has spoken to in the last day?

MR. RUBIN: Yes, I can. She did speak to Foreign Minister Ivanov yesterday evening. She spoke to the Hungarian Foreign Minister today; she spoke to the Portuguese Foreign Minister; she spoke to Secretary General Solana. She spoke to the Ukrainian Foreign Minister yesterday and the Chinese Foreign Minister yesterday.

QUESTION: I there a role for Ukraine in all of this?

QUESTION: I was actually just going to ask a Ukrainian question. I believe it was the Ukrainian Parliament who is now speaking about the fact that maybe they need to reconsider their decision to draw down in terms of their nuclear weapons, the renunciation of nuclear weapons?

MR. RUBIN: Well, we're aware that the RADA is having a debate, just as others are having debate. During the conversation with the Ukrainian Foreign Minister, he made clear the domestic pressure that was on his government, the concern that existed there, and indicated that he intended to go to Belgrade.

The Secretary sought to discourage him from that, thinking that there wasn't likely to be any different message to the Ukrainian Foreign Minister than there was to Ambassador Holbrooke or any other of the many interlocutors that have discussed this matter with President Milosevic. But we do understand that they are going. We do recognize that there are domestic pressures in Ukraine. I think the sense she got from the call was that they weren't really worried about any decision to not continue their non- nuclear status.

QUESTION: Did she say something like, would you mind conveying our standing message, which is that he has to do x, y and z?

MR. RUBIN: I think she made clear to him, as the President did in a letter to the Prime Minister, President of Ukraine, that what we're looking for is for the offensive operations to stop and Milosevic to embrace the peace process.

QUESTION: I want to go back to a line of questioning that Barry was following. That is, when these messages - particularly the message that Albright delivered today - to the Serbian people went out, did you consider that, in fact, her words might be taken by some people in Serbia as an encouragement to try to rise up against Milosevic?

MR. RUBIN: No. Let's be very clear. The Serb authorities control the propaganda machine. One of the sad facts of this whole conflict in Serbia and in former Yugoslavia has been the extent to which these propaganda machines have misled the public both about the activities of their adversaries or their other members of ethnic communities and the extent to which the international community's proposals are peace proposals or something else.

So we are aware that the Serbian authorities are using their propaganda machine to argue that the attacks by NATO are attacks on the Serbian people. We thought it was important to use this modern technology to try to penetrate that propaganda machine as best as possible. We have no illusions of how difficult that is to do, and I didn't claim great coverage for such a broadcast, but we do think it's worth trying.

QUESTION: Jamie, there are reports that some of the worst actors in the Bosnian conflict are popping up in Kosovo - Seselj and some of the other paramilitary thugs that were so brutal during that conflict. Since you all are watching things rather closely there and you have picked out some specific atrocities, are you seeing an increase in paramilitary activity by people such as Seselj?

MR. RUBIN: I have no information on specific individuals.

QUESTION: Jamie, can we go back to Bosnia for a minute and the Migs? I know this is always dangerous -- quoting back to you. You said it was an act of desperation. And as far as the Dayton peace accords go, they didn't make it so it shows it's working. Isn't this the most serious violation that has occurred in Bosnia, with Migs flying in there.

MR. RUBIN: Well, clearly, it's a serious issue when Serbian planes are flying into Bosnia. But they were shot down and it was an act of desperation, and that's that.

QUESTION: What do you mean by an act of desperation? Doesn't it also show the Serbs are --

MR. RUBIN: They're unable to interfere with the military operations being conducted in Serbia and Kosovo, and so they were lashing out in an act of desperation and they were shot down.

QUESTION: But doesn't it show some intent on the part of the Serbs to violate the Dayton peace accords, and what does that say?

MR. RUBIN: We have no doubt that the authorities in Belgrade have not been urging the Serb officials in Bosnia to act inconsistent with the Dayton accords. They've been doing that all along. We don't believe the message coming in from Belgrade is, live up to the Dayton peace accords with every comma and period. On the contrary, Milosevic has sought to manipulate political activity in Bosnia to try to undermine the accords. But the fact that the growing numbers of people in Bosnia are seeing the benefits of peace has made it very difficult for him to do so.

QUESTION: Jamie, what of the two pilots that were captured - the two Yugoslav pilots? What happens next with them? And also, do you have any message for the Serbs, should any Allied pilots be captured by them?

MR. RUBIN: We hold the Serbs responsible for the safety of all Americans, including American journalists in Serbia. With respect to any activity like that, obviously we would expect them to live up to the laws of war.

QUESTION: And what about the two Yugoslav --

MR. RUBIN: I have no information on that.

QUESTION: Going back, sort of picking up on Carole, I believe yesterday Senator Helms introduced legislation calling for the US should support opposition groups which would lead to the overthrow of Milosevic. Does the US support that legislation?

MR. RUBIN: We, as a general rule, don't want to see every particular policy or nuance of policy legislated into law. We look to have maximum flexibility for the Executive Branch in its pursuit of foreign policy. But let me say this, the idea of funding democratic programs in Serbia is something we're very supportive of; we do spend considerable sums on it ourselves.

QUESTION: On China, a Chinese Embassy spokesman just said on CNN recently that China had learned that the United States was going to support an anti- China resolution in Geneva on human rights. I wondered if that were in fact true.

MR. RUBIN: Let me address the question as follows. The United States will introduce a resolution on China's human rights practices at the United Nations Commission on Human Rights, which is currently meeting in Geneva. The decision to go forward with the resolution at the Commission this year is based on the fact that the government of China's human rights record has deteriorated sharply over the past year.

Since the end of last year, authorities have initiated a crackdown against organized political opposition. Dozens of political activists have been detained for peaceful political activities, and three leaders of the China democracy party have been given harsh sentences in closed trials that clearly violated due process.

As noted in our human rights report, authorities also have tightened regulations on publishers and newspapers, increased monitoring of the Internet, continued to restrict religious practice and intensified controls over Tibet. These developments are a source of deep concern to the United States. They constitute a reversal of the comparatively more tolerant attitude toward political expression and association which Chinese authorities had begun to exhibit.

The Chinese Government has accepted international human rights obligations by signing the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. In its dialogues with the United States, the European Union and others, China has stated its intention to fulfill its obligation under these conventions and other instruments of international human rights law.

The UN Commission for Human Rights, the world's preeminent international forum on human rights is, therefore, the appropriate venue to discuss violations of internationally recognized human rights. The resolution in Geneva that we will pursue represents one part of our strategy of purposeful, principled engagement with China that serves the interests of both countries.

In separate development, the White House has announced that Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji will come to the United States for an official visit on April 6 through 14. We look forward to useful, productive talks with Premier Zhu on the wide range of issues and interests on our bilateral agenda, including non-proliferation, trade, human rights and global issues.

We believe that a policy of engagement, rather than seeking to isolate China, offers the best means to advance our national interest. As the President said last week, the evidence is that the Chinese would like a constructive relationship with us, and that the best course for America over the long run is for us to establish a positive but eyes-wide-open relationship to work with the Chinese where it's in our interest to do so, and to frankly and forthrightly state our differences where they exist.

QUESTION: Jamie, what exactly is this resolution going to say? Will it condemn China's practices over the course of the last year? Will it just remind China that it has signed a covenant? What are the words you're going to use?

MR. RUBIN: I think it's premature for me to get into the specific wording. We're beginning to consult with other members of the Human Rights Commission. Clearly it will detail the human rights abuses that we have laid out and, obviously, urge those abuses to be reversed.

QUESTION: Do you have other sponsors? Have you consulted -

MR. RUBIN: At this time, I'm announcing America's intention to go forward. We are in consultation with other countries.

QUESTION: Do you know when it will be?

MR. RUBIN: We have several weeks before this would begin in late April.

QUESTION: You have no indications that Premier Zhu is going to cancel his trip?

MR. RUBIN: No, I don't. Secretary Albright informed the Chinese Foreign Minister of our intention in her phone call with him yesterday. She made clear the reasons for this decision and the fact that we consider this part of our principled policy of engagement and that we have to be frank where areas of disagreement are. We expect Premier Zhu to be here.

QUESTION: Whom was she talking to? I didn't hear.

MR. RUBIN: The Foreign Minister of China.

QUESTION: The US and North Korea resume missile talks Monday in Pyongyang. So do you have any statements of these talks? What is your expectations?

MR. RUBIN: The US and North Korea will meet for another round of missile talks next week, March 29 and 30, in Pyongyang. These talks will be a follow-up to our last round. At the last round, the two sides discussed our concerns about North Korea's destabilizing Taepo Dong I launch last August, as well as other missile proliferation issues.

We continue to have serious concerns about North Korea's development, testing and export of missiles and missile technology. We will use the talks to press these concerns and to seek tight constraints on North Korea's missile activities. We previously held talks with the North Koreans in April '96, June '97 and October 1998.

Obviously, North Korea's missile proliferation activities are of great concern to the United States and will be addressed in full at these negotiations.

QUESTION: The Europeans on a Palestinian state -- is that something the US wishes hadn't happened or what?

MR. RUBIN: We have seen the European Union's statement. Clearly, there are views that the United States and the European Union do not share.

To the extent that the EU statement emphasizes the importance of negotiations to resolve permanent status issues, that is very important. Our views are clear: We believe Oslo is based on the principle that all permanent status issues can only be resolved through negotiations. We are, thus, opposed to a unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state. We will encourage accelerated permanent status negotiations. These discussions should not be open-ended but rather should be completed within a target period or a time frame. Both parties should refrain from unilateral actions on the ground or statements that prejudge or predetermine the outcome of permanent status negotiations.

QUESTION: I guess the trigger there, thinking of, is the end of the five- year period?

MR. RUBIN: We don't agree with that part, to the extent that it calls for action outside of the negotiations.

QUESTION: That's the point. Old bets aren't off because you passed May 4 or whatever.

MR. RUBIN: That's not our view.

QUESTION: Thank you.

(The briefing concluded at 2:20 P.M.)


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