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U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing #28, 99-03-08

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From: The Department of State Foreign Affairs Network (DOSFAN) at <http://www.state.gov>


973

U.S. Department of State
Daily Press Briefing

I N D E X

Monday, March 8, 1999

Briefer: James P. Rubin

FRY-SERBIA
1		US condemns sentencing of Serb journalists

FRY -KOSOVO 1,3 Amb. Hill reports that KLA General Staff has approved Rambouillet agreement. 1 Amb. Holbrooke's travel to region a possibility, though nothing is definitive yet. 2,3 Amb. Hill is working to get the agreement signed. 4 Several NATO foreign ministers expected to meet with Milosevic 4 Exact timing of KLA visit to US still not decided.

DAYTON ACCORDS 4 Brcko decision is not open to ratification by parties. They agreed to binding arbitration. 5 US stands by Westendorp's dismissal of Poplasen. 5 Bosnia is proceeding; NATO forces are there; Dayton implementation proceeds.

GREECE 6 Mr. Karamanlis will meet Sec. Albright, Vice President Gore, others.

CHINA 6-7,9 Theater missile defense (TMD) would be a defensive system, not an offensive threat. 7 Program doesn't yet exist. 10-11 US has extremely strict policy on protecting sensitive information and technology.

DR. PERRY'S TRAVEL 7-8,9-10 He is in the midst of visiting Japan, South Korea and China on US North Korea policy. 9 He is on a private visit to Taiwan.

NORTH KOREA 11 Bilateral talks continue today on suspect underground site.

CAMBODIA 11-12 US thinks capture of Ta Mok is a highly productive development. 12 US believes Ta Mok must be brought to justice before an international criminal tribunal.

COLOMBIA 12 US expresses deepest sympathy on murder of three Americans. 12-13,15-16 US not surprised at FARC's denial of responsibility, but does not believe it.

CARICOM 14 US does not accept linkage between banana imports and anti-narcotics efforts.

CUBA 14-15 US pleased Baltimore Orioles and Cuban national team will be able to play each other.

ASSISTANT SECRETARY INDYK'S TRAVEL TO MIDDLE EAST 15 He will be discussing issues of regional concern in Turkey, Jordan and Syria.


U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

DPB #28

MONDAY, MARCH 8, 1999, 1:00 P.M.

(ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)

MR. RUBIN: Greetings. Welcome to the State Department briefing. I see some of the wire services are doubled up here. That makes it easier, not harder. I've missed you all; it's been a long time.

We have one statement on the sentencing of a Serbian journalist. The bottom line is the United States condemns in the strongest terms today's five- month prison sentence of Slavko Curuvija, the editor-in-chief of the Belgrade daily newspaper, by the Serbian criminal court. The conviction represents further intensification of the regime's campaign against independent media outlets throughout the country, which began with the Serbian information law passed last year.

We'll be posting that statement after the briefing. With that, I will go to your questions.

QUESTION: Is Ambassador Holbrooke heading for the region shortly? And could you update us on the state of play on the diplomatic situation vis-a- vis Kosovo?

MR. RUBIN: Yes. Ambassador Hill has reported to the Secretary as follows. The KLA - the Kosovar Liberation Army - general staff has asked him to tell Secretary Albright that they have approved the agreement as negotiated at Rambouillet and that they have authorized its signature. We will obviously be awaiting that signature, and Secretary Albright has been informed of this.

As far as Ambassador Holbrooke is concerned, that is a possibility; but let me say, what we need to do is get the maximum clarity from the Kosovar Albanian side so that we are in a position to put the necessary pressure on the Serb side. I don't have any final decisions to provide you on the front of Ambassador Holbrooke at this time.

QUESTION: Once you get that priority, Holbrooke probably will go?

MR. RUBIN: Again, that's a possibility but I have nothing definitive for you.

QUESTION: Isn't Ambassador Hill meeting in the hills of Kosovo somewhere, as we speak?

MR. RUBIN: Yes, I think he's left now.

QUESTION: He's now left?

MR. RUBIN: I think so.

QUESTION: Was he meeting with the general staff?

MR. RUBIN: The Liberation Army general staff among others, yes.

QUESTION: Okay, is their agreement to sign enough for you to conclude that the agreement will be signed?

MR. RUBIN: I think I will conclude that the agreement has been signed when it's been signed.

QUESTION: You have some doubt about -

MR. RUBIN: I didn't say that.

QUESTION: What did you say; what did you mean?

MR. RUBIN: I said -- you asked me a question, when we will believe that it's signed. I said when we see it signed, it will be signed, by definition.

QUESTION: When do you expect it to be signed? I mean, did they give you a time or date today?

MR. RUBIN: Ambassador Hill talked to them, and he is working on that issue. I have nothing more for you on that.

QUESTION: Can you say how they resolved the KLA concerns about Russian troops and the disarmament issue?

MR. RUBIN: The agreement hasn't been adjusted.

QUESTION: It has not?

MR. RUBIN: Nope.

QUESTION: What do you mean by maximum clarity? If the KLA general staff has said they will sign it, what else remains?

MR. RUBIN: As I said in response to Sid's question, a signature remains.

QUESTION: Well, I know but if, there apparently - I thought you were alluding to some issues before.

MR. RUBIN: No.

QUESTION: No, just the signature?

MR. RUBIN: Right.

QUESTION: Technically, where would they have to sign?

MR. RUBIN: On the piece of paper.

(Laughter.)

QUESTION: Where in this world?

MR. RUBIN: It doesn't matter.

QUESTION: Are you all going to try and secure this signature before Paris on the 15th?

MR. RUBIN: We would want it signed as soon as possible.

QUESTION: So you're saying there is - right now there are no other plans for Hill to meet with the KLA?

MR. RUBIN: I don't know Hill's plans, but I would expect him to stay in contact with the Kosovar Albanians until the agreement is signed. For those of you who were in France during the talks and understand the make-up of the Kosovar Albanian delegation, clearly the fact that the KLA general staff has approved the agreement and authorized its signature and has indicated and said that to Ambassador Hill and asked him to pass that on to the Secretary is significant. The point is that until an agreement is signed, it's not signed.

QUESTION: I still don't understand what you mean when you say we need maximum clarity. In what respect?

MR. RUBIN: I thought I just answered that.

QUESTION: No, you didn't; you didn't answer it.

MR. RUBIN: I did very clearly. Maximum clarity would be a signature.

QUESTION: That's all you need. You've got the inclination that they will sign it as drawn up at Rambouillet?

MR. RUBIN: That is what Ambassador Hill reported to the Secretary of State -- that the KLA general staff told him to tell her that they have approved the agreement and authorized its signature.

QUESTION: How about the political side of the Kosovars?

MR. RUBIN: That has tended to be less of a problem.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) - was quoted on the wires as accusing some political leaders of the alliance of undermining NATO's ability to take military action regarding Kosovo, and that some alliance leaders are giving Milosevic certain guarantees that they shouldn't be giving him. What is the US view of that?

MR. RUBIN: I don't know what he's referring to. I'd need a more specific statement from him as to what he's specifically referring to. We believe that all the NATO allies approved the January 30 agreement. There's been no indication that any of them no longer support that decision of NATO. There are a number of foreign ministers who are expected to be in Belgrade, making their case to Milosevic for him to agree to the accords as negotiated, as German Foreign Minister Fischer did today. We believe the alliance remains unified in its determination to try to bring peace to this region by the means that have been described.

QUESTION: Are you still expecting the Kosovar Albanian delegation in Washington this week?

MR. RUBIN: We are expecting to have such a visit. The exact timing, I have nothing new for you. I don't believe we've ever put out exactly when they would come, so the exact timing and make-up has not been determined.

QUESTION: Do you have any update on what's happening on the ground in Brcko, in light of the decision there on Friday and the firing of Poplasen and the US killing of a Serb?

MR. RUBIN: The Brcko decision is not open to ratification by the parties. All parties signatory to Dayton agreed to the arbitration process and accepted Roberts Owen as the arbitrator. All have previously stated their intent to implement the decision when made. As the Secretary stated on Friday, we call upon all the leaders to fulfill their commitments to the arbitrator's decision.

The statement by the Republika Srpska Assembly that the Brcko decision is a violation of Dayton is simply off the mark. Brcko could not be resolved at Dayton. The parties agreed to binding arbitration by an independent arbitrator, and the parties pledged to implement the arbitration decision fully. We urge the parties to work with the arbitrator. We believe the Republika Srpska and the Federation should both work constructively on implementing the many details of the decision.

We're aware that there have been certain resolutions, certain rumors about Dodik reconsidering his resignation. Let me simply say on that that it is clearly a time of turbulence for the leadership of the Republika Srpska. It would be imprudent to speculate on what his decisions would be. But it is our view - and it has always been our view - that the most pro-Dayton government possible would be the best for the people of Bosnia and the RS and the world.

QUESTION: What is the reaction, Jamie, of the United States Government to the firing of Poplasen?

MR. RUBIN: We stand by High Representative Westendorp's dismissal of the president of the RS.

QUESTION: If he refuses to go, do you stand by Westendorp's threat that NATO will remove him?

MR. RUBIN: I haven't seen that specific threat. I'd have to see what words were used and what implications might be from my answering that question in the affirmative.

QUESTION: Okay, as a technicality?

MR. RUBIN: We certainly support Carlos Westendorp's efforts to implement the Bosnia agreement. I haven't seen that specific statement and wouldn't want to, therefore, make any comment on it.

QUESTION: Do you know if that would be in their power to do?

MR. RUBIN: I would have to check with the lawyers.

QUESTION: Do the events in Bosnia complicate what you're trying to do in Kosovo?

MR. RUBIN: Well, the Balkans is complicated enough. Each one of the situations is complicated without a reference to another. The bottom line is that Bosnia is proceeding; NATO forces are there; the implementation of Dayton proceeds. President Milosevic can make whatever calculations he wants. That's one of the unfortunate disadvantages of being a dictator. If he wants to agree to the accords, he can agree to them and he can sell them, and he will do so if he makes that decision. We don't think that the events in Bosnia change the fact that this is the right agreement for Serbia.

QUESTION: Anything on the health of President Tudjman -- how he's doing these days?

MR. RUBIN: When I was in London I heard a rumor that turned out to be related to another leader, but I have nothing for you on that.

QUESTION: The Greek Prime Minister last Friday in the Parliament made some very clear statements against terrorism. Do you have a reaction on these statements?

MR. RUBIN: As a general rule, we welcome condemnations of terrorism as well as concrete measures to combat terrorist organizations, but I haven't seen the full text of this statement. So other than that general point, I wouldn't be able to comment.

QUESTION: Recently yesterday, some Turkish officials raised again the tone of the rhetoric against Greece and the relationship between Greece and Turkey. Do you have any reaction to that?

MR. RUBIN: I don't have a specific reaction, no.

QUESTION: The leader of the Greek opposition, Costas Karamanlis, in town. Tomorrow he's going to meet with Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Do you have any comment on that?

MR. RUBIN: Yes, Mr. Karamanlis, head of the New Democracy Party, is in Washington for a long scheduled visit. He will be meeting with Vice President Gore and with Secretary Albright among others. We have a long tradition of meeting with opposition leaders of democratic allies. They will discuss from our side the general US-Greek bilateral relations, including areas where we work together. That's the general topic.

QUESTION: One more question. (Inaudible) -- met the other day with the Secretary General of the Greek Foreign Ministry. Do you know what it is all about, this meeting?

MR. RUBIN: I don't have any details on that specific meeting. We don't normally divulge details of meetings at that level.

QUESTION: China. The Chinese over the weekend have made some rather strong statements about missile defenses -- that would be the last straw if the United States provided missile defenses to Taiwan. I wondered how you saw that.

MR. RUBIN: Secretary Albright was there. She went to great lengths to try to explain to the Chinese Government what the question of theater missile defense is and what it is not. Let me reiterate, theater missile defense is a defensive system, and should not be perceived as a threat to any country's securities.

The Taiwan authorities are currently assessing their own capabilities and needs, and therefore it would be premature for me to comment about what their intentions are. But what we believe is that instead of worrying about a decision that has not been made to deploy defensive technologies that do not yet exist, the Chinese should focus on the regional and global proliferation of missiles. The threat of missile proliferation is an issue that we can work together with the Chinese on.

We remain firmly committed to fulfilling the security and arms transfers provision of the Taiwan Relations Act. We will continue to assist Taiwan in meeting its legitimate defense needs in accordance with the Taiwan Relations Act and the 1982 joint communique with the PRC. We regularly consult with Taiwan on its defense requirements. As part of these consultations we have briefed Taiwan, as we have many other friends, on the concept of a theater missile defense - the concept. This is a development program, this is not a deployment program. No decisions regarding deployments to defend countries, areas or forces other than those of the United States have been made.

These are the points, in large measure, that we made to the Chinese when Secretary Albright was there. We sought to clarify any misunderstandings about what this is all about. For their own reasons, they've chosen to focus on a program that does not yet exist. We don't really have much further to say about it.

QUESTION: Well, precisely because the Secretary had just been there and had these conversations, I just wondered if you read anything particularly ominous in the fact that they have apparently chosen to disregard that and just harp on it publicly.

MR. RUBIN: They didn't disregard it. They said the same thing to her as they've said publicly. So there is nothing - this is a difference of view about the significance of TMD. They took this position while we were there, and they're still taking this position. We had a certain position while we were there and we're still having the same position. So there's no disregarding; there's no not regarding; there just continues to be differences, as we said at the time.

QUESTION: Well, for them to use the language, "this would be the last straw," sounds pretty --

MR. RUBIN: Well, you'll have to ask them what they meant by that phrase; I don't know.

QUESTION: Can you talk a little bit about former Secretary Perry's stop in Taipei and the significance of that?

MR. RUBIN: In Taipei? I don't have anything - in Seoul.

QUESTION: I thought he also went to --

MR. RUBIN: I'm not aware of that. He's now in the region consulting --

QUESTION: He went to Taipei, too.

MR. RUBIN: Well, it's not part of this trip, as far as I understand it. This trip is going to the PRC, ROK and government of Japan. I don't know what other stops he made; I'll have to check that for you.

QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

MR. RUBIN: I did see those reports, I just don't have - yes, he has his own private business that he might be pursuing through his own position at Stanford that may have nothing to - what I'm trying to explain to you is Dr. Perry's itinerary is Dr. Perry's business, except to the extent that he's performing a mission for the US Government. The mission that he's performing for the US Government was to go to Japan, South Korea and the People's Republic of China. If he made other stops pursuant to his other job - because, again, I know it's hard, but when we use these special envoys, they also have their own lives and their own work that we're not asking them to completely stop. So my information has him going on a trip to those three places. If he stopped somewhere else, you'd have to check with his secretary about his plans.

QUESTION: But given the sensitivity of US relations with Taiwan and US relations with China and Taiwan's relations with China as well, at the very least if this is a separate mission - his own personal work - at the very least, it certainly leaves confusion by overlapping with a trip that's associated with an official US mission.

MR. RUBIN: In your minds, not in ours.

QUESTION: Could I follow up, please?

MR. RUBIN: Possibly in your mind, I don't know; but it's not in our minds that there's confusion. Our position on Taiwan and TMD, I've given you very clearly. If you'd like to know about Dr. Perry's mission with respect to North Korea, I'd be happy to provide that information for you. If that's not of interest to you, then there's no confusion in our opinion.

QUESTION: Jamie, how did the PRC officials - I take it Mr. Tang - how did they react when asked about the missile build-up on the coastlands across the Taiwan Straits from Taiwan, number one? Number two, how could they object to a theater missile defense in Japan or Korea or for Taiwan that would only be defensive if they didn't have some kind of offensive motives in their build up of missiles? Thirdly, what about Japan? China is crying about Japan being involved in a theater missile defense. Is there any validity to that?

MR. RUBIN: It sounds like you've been reading our talking points.

QUESTION: The Chinese motivations, analysis, reasoning, I'll have to leave to them. All I can do is explain to you what our view is on the subject of theater missile defense. We certainly made clear to the Chinese that the more progress can be made between China and Taiwan, the more the cross-strait dialogue can be successful; and that the less there is concern about Chinese missile deployment, that the less likely that this development program need ever materialize.

Similarly, to the extent that other places like Japan or South Korea consider theater missile defense in light of the North Korean missile program, the best way to avoid the problem that they're concerned about is for them to work with us to stop the North Korean program from expanding and growing. Those are the points we made to the Chinese.

QUESTION: Does the US fear that Chinese missiles deployed -- now shorter- range missiles deployed that could reach Taiwan -- does the US fear that those missiles need to be countered by a theater missile defense; is that what it's about?

MR. RUBIN: I think we've spoken to those missiles before. Remember, it's not new that China has missiles. They've had missiles for a long time; there's nothing new about that. With respect to Taiwan deciding that it wants theater missile defense, as I indicated to you, there is nothing new here either. We have briefed them, and they've asked informational questions, and that's where things stand.

QUESTION: I just have to follow up again. If, in fact, Secretary Perry planned these two trips to happen at the same time but for different bosses, are you concerned that he did go to Taiwan on our nickel, or at least in conjunction with a trip that was a US mission? Does it bother you? Are you concerned the way it will affect the Chinese?

MR. RUBIN: No, not at all.

QUESTION: Did the Secretary explain to the Chinese -- (inaudible)?

MR. RUBIN: No, in fact, they never raised it; nobody raised it. As far as I can tell, only journalists have raised it.

QUESTION: We'll see what happens in the next couple of days.

MR. RUBIN: Yes. I think he's not there anymore. So if they were concerned about it, you probably would have heard it in the comments that were asked about with respect to TMD. But if you want to pass on your concerns, I'm sure they'll take them.

(Laughter.)

QUESTION: Secretary Perry - well, with regard to him - some congressmen recently -

MR. RUBIN: Oh, I have some new data. Perry is on a private trip to Taiwan, sponsored by the National Committee for US-China Relations. He is there for so-called track two discussions on matters, including cross-Strait issues. He is not traveling on behalf of the Administration or carrying any message for the Administration. Looks like I got that one right.

QUESTION: Several congressmen apparently have sent a letter to former Secretary Perry, asking him to urge the Administration to take a tougher policy line toward North Korea. Do you have anything about that?

MR. RUBIN: Dr. Perry is now in the region consulting with our friends and allies as he conducts his policy review. He has met with key congressional figures and will do so again as he proceeds to gather as many views as possible for his consideration. I cannot speculate on the outcome of the review, still a work in progress; but I am certain it will carefully evaluate the views expressed in Congressman Gilman's letter.

The purpose of Dr. Perry's travel is to exchange views on North Korea and US Government policy with key government officials. I'm sure that in the course of his review following this trip, he will take into account the views expressed and evaluate them carefully.

QUESTION: A follow-up on China, as well. Just over the last few days, there have been reports of espionage by the Chinese, thefts of nuclear weapons secrets. Do you anticipate that this is going to put an extra strain on a relationship with the PRC any time soon?

MR. RUBIN: Let me say on that subject that we have no illusions about China. China, like many other countries, seeks to acquire sensitive information and technology for military uses by many means. That is why we established strong measures to protect classified information and prevent acquisition of sensitive technology and we prosecute those who violate our laws.

In the case of China, we have extremely strict policies. We do not authorize any arms sales to China or exports of dual use technology for military uses. We also limit the export of dual use technology to China for civilian uses to minimize the risk of military diversion.

The Chinese will make certain statements, as they did, but we will go about our business of protecting our information and technology; and that's what we have to do.

QUESTION: Do the Chinese or anybody else appear to have stolen miniaturization technology?

MR. RUBIN: I believe that's a matter under investigation and has been stated so by the White House.

QUESTION: So you don't know?

MR. RUBIN: No, I didn't say that. I said it's a matter under investigation.

QUESTION: Could these allegations affect the consideration of future satellite sales to China?

MR. RUBIN: Again, this is a matter under investigation and I wouldn't want to speculate on the outcome of an investigation.

QUESTION: Do you think the Administration can resist the pressure from Congress as a result of this series of damaging allegations? Do you think you can resist their push to pull back from your partnership, I guess, with China?

MR. RUBIN: I don't think we have a partnership. We said we're seeking to develop a strategic partnership. We do engage with the Chinese through a variety of channels and a variety of means, and will continue to do so. We are as concerned as Congress about any potential violations. That is why we work so hard on the subject. We took a number of steps to try to make sure that these - that we intensified investigation of possible espionage cases and strengthen security at the labs. We have no illusions about China, and will continue to operate with the expectation that China, like many other countries, will seek to acquire sensitive information and technology for military uses.

As far as how this impacts on the congressional debate, all I can tell you is what we will pursue, which is a policy that we believe is in our national security interest. That is one in which we try to work with China to prevent the development of dangerous occurrences around the world - whether that's in the India-Pakistan front on non-proliferation; whether it's ballistic missile sales or technology sales; whether it's stopping the North Korean nuclear program. Those are things that affect the national security interest of the American people. We believe the best way to achieve those objectives vis-a-vis China is to work with them on it and not to isolate China and not work with them on it.

In the meanwhile, we have no illusions that China, like many other countries, seeks to acquire sensitive information and technology for military uses by many different means. We'll act on that front vigorously.

QUESTION: (Inaudible)-relationship?

MR. RUBIN: We're going to do what we think is best for the national security of the United States. And what we think is best for the national security of the United States is to work with them to solve national security problems that affect the United States.

QUESTION: I just wondered if you have anything on the North Korea talks in New York.

MR. RUBIN: What I have on that is as follows. They are continuing today the bilateral talks on the suspect underground site. We are seeking steps by North Korea to remove fully our suspicions about the site, including by providing access to it. We have repeatedly stated we are not prepared to pay North Korea to ensure compliance with its obligations. That discussion in ongoing and we will continue it until we receive satisfaction or until we decide it's no longer worthwhile to discuss it.

QUESTION: Do you know if there was intervention of the American side to Ankara in the last 24-hours in order to ease tensions in the Aegean?

MR. RUBIN: I don't have any information on that angle.

QUESTION: It's looking increasingly unlikely that Cambodians are going to agree to an international tribunal, especially with what they've just said about the latest Khmer Rouge leader, Ta Mok, will be tried in Cambodia. Is the United States opposed to a domestic trial?

MR. RUBIN: I don't think one precludes the other; one can do both. That has always been a possibility.

Let me say that we think the capture of Ta Mok and the prospect of his being brought to justice is a highly positive development for which the Cambodian Government deserves much credit. We have been in close contact on this subject. The Secretary obviously had an extensive discussion with Thai leaders on this subject. We recognize the need to follow Cambodian legal procedures to establish legal custody of Ta Mok and to properly investigate him. Ta Mok must be brought to justice, and we were pleased with the Cambodian Government's clear intention to accomplish this.

The United States strongly believes that the trial of Ta Mok and other senior Khmer Rouge leaders before an international criminal tribunal established by the Security Council would serve important interests of Cambodia and of the international community and would offer an opportunity for both justice and reconciliation. We intend to continue a close contact with the government of Cambodia in order to discuss all options and possibility for accomplishing these mutually held goals.

QUESTION: The Cambodian Foreign Minister is on his way to New York to talk to Kofi Annan. Do you know if anybody from this Administration will be seeing him?

MR. RUBIN: I don't have any information on that, but I can check that for you after the briefing.

QUESTION: On Colombia, last Friday you said that FARC had not only kidnapped but killed the three Americans citizens in the country. Can you share with us the evidence you have to think so; and are you still thinking the same way?

MR. RUBIN: Our deepest sympathy and prayers go out to the family and friends of the three American hostages who were kidnapped February 25 in Colombia and whose bodies were found in Venezuela on March 4. We have no additional information on the murder of Terence Freitas, Ingrid Washinawatok and Laheenae Gay of Hawaii, who were affiliated with American NGO environmental and indigenous rights organizations working on education progress projects with the Indians there.

True to form, the FARC continues to deny responsibility for its action. When the FARC has killed or kidnapped other American citizens, they also denied responsibility for their actions. In the case of the kidnapping of the three American New Tribes missionaries, we have concrete information that the FARC was responsible, contrary to their denials. In another case, we also have concrete proof that the FARC killed two American citizens. So we're not surprised that they have denied responsibility.

QUESTION: They come in three days and tell us a different story from that because they are investigated by their own selves. Does the United States have enough evidence to still think that they were the ones who committed those assassinations?

MR. RUBIN: We strongly condemn the FARC for these brutal murders and demand that they immediately turn over those responsible to the Colombian Government. We call upon the government of Colombia to arrest and extradite to the United States those responsible for this cowardly act of international terrorism.

QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

MR. RUBIN: Let me say that we met with the FARC at the suggestion of the Colombian Government, and we've made it very clear to them our position on a number of matters. We decided a meeting with serve our interests by providing a strong message to end the practice of kidnapping citizens, fully accounting for the missing. In light of the recent events, is hard to imagine another meeting unless they do bring those responsible to justice.

QUESTION: There are reports that the Colombian Government intercepted, I believe, radio messages between those who had captured these Americans and commanders and that the order was given to kill them. Do you take these reports as being credible?

MR. RUBIN: I have no information on radio intercepts.

QUESTION: But does the US Government or does Colombia -- has Colombia presented evidence that would constitute a smoking gun in the linking of FARC leadership to these killings, this massacre?

MR. RUBIN: We strongly condemn the FARC for these brutal murders and demand that they immediately turn over those responsible to the Colombian Government.

I'm not sure I'm going to have much more to assist you, but I'm happy to take your questions.

QUESTION: On what grounds are you asking for the extradition of those people? As far as I know, it is a crime committed in Colombia by Colombians. So I don't see extradition for -

MR. RUBIN: We're calling on the government of Colombia to arrest and extradite to the United States those responsible. If they arrested them, they can make the decision to extradite them.

QUESTION: On the statement last Friday, it was mentioned just the FARC. An interview with relatives or friends of Mr. Freitas on Saturday in New York, they tell us personally that he had received threats from the paramilitary groups in California. Do you have any comments on this?

MR. RUBIN: I don't have any information on that. I'll have to check it for you.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) -- international extradition laws, would it make a difference if they were killed in Venezuela or Colombia? Apparently, news reports are saying -

MR. RUBIN: I'd have to ask our lawyers.

QUESTION: The Caribbean countries have just decided to stop the cooperation with the United States in narco-trafficking because -

MR. RUBIN: Who has?

QUESTION: The Caribbean countries.

MR. RUBIN: Have decided?

QUESTION: Yes, because the problem with the bananas. They say until the United States resolve the banana problem with the European Union, they're going to stop all the cooperation with the United States on narco- trafficking.

MR. RUBIN: You, I think, have overstated what they've said. Let me say that - I have something on this, when I can find it.

Cooperating in the international fight against drug trafficking and abuse has manifestly in the interest of the members of CARICOM. We think that CARICOM leaders know that.

Others in the Caribbean that try to excuse drug production by claiming economic necessity are merely attempting to justify an illegal activity. Cannabis has been cultivated in Caribbean states since long before the United States brought its case on bananas to the World Trade Organization. Pressure against drug producers, however, has increased recently with the growing recognition of the problems of marijuana use and the corrupting and corrosive effect of economic dependency on the illegal trade, provoking cannabis growers to rationalize their illegal activity.

For example, the Caribbean nation of St. Lucia relies heavily on banana exports, yet has an excellent close collaborative and cooperative anti- drug/anti-crime working relationship with the United States. At the same time, the government of St. Lucia is working diligently to diversify its economy. So there may be some who want to create this linkage. We don't think it's justified.

QUESTION: Still on the Caribbean, there is a lot of position in Miami - the game that is going to be played in Cuba between the Orioles and the national team of Cuba. Do you have any response? How are you dealing with Cuban leadership in Miami to support this kind of -

MR. RUBIN: We have regular dialogue with them. I don't have any particular details. We do understand that major league baseball and the owners of the Baltimore Orioles have reached an agreement with the Cuban Sports Institute on the modalities of two exhibition games between the Orioles and the Cuban national team. The first game will take place in Havana on March 28; the second will take place in Baltimore this season at a date to be determined as soon as possible.

The two sides will meet again shortly to sort out logistics. We are pleased that the games will take place and that the people of Cuba will have the opportunity to watch US baseball in action. The games will bring the American and Cuban people together in a sport loved in both countries. There will be minimal or no net proceeds from the games. The proceeds will be used mainly to support baseball and other sports related activities, like exchanges, consistent with US law, policy and regulations.

This is an agreement between the two baseball organizations, and that's where it stands.

QUESTION: They are saying that Fidel Castro is planning to attend the game in Havana. Do you have any concerns for that?

MR. RUBIN: I don't know whether he is or not.

QUESTION: The Antigua elections are tomorrow, Tuesday, I believe. There are reports that there are American warnings that say that Antigua is under threat by individuals who have infiltrated government bodies. Why is there such a warning; can you explain what that's about?

MR. RUBIN: I'll have to get you some information on that; I don't have that available to me here.

QUESTION: Martin Indyk's trip to the Middle East, Syria, Lebanon - is there anything on that?

MR. RUBIN: Yes, Martin Indyk is traveling. He is going to Turkey, Jordan and Syria. The purpose of Assistant Secretary Indyk's travel is to discuss regional issues of mutual concern, including Iraq and the peace process. I think it is not realistic to resume negotiations on the Syria track before the Israeli elections. However, we, in our discussions in the region, do discuss the peace process and I expect him to discuss it with the Syrian leadership. But it would be highly unrealistic to suggest that one could resume negotiations, as I've seen in some reporting already.

QUESTION: Is this mostly an Iraq trip, since I believe all three are neighbors of Iraq?

MR. RUBIN: I would say, if I had to lean peace process/Iraq, I'd probably lean that way, yes.

QUESTION: He will be in Ankara tomorrow. Do you think he will handle some Incerlik base and the Northern Iraq/Kurdish issues also?

MR. RUBIN: I'm sure he will discuss Iraq and all its component parts in Turkey, yes.

QUESTION: Do you still believe that your government is supporting the peace process in Colombia, even though this has happened with the FARC and the American citizens?

MR. RUBIN: We've been assisting in the process pursuant to requests from the Colombian Government and doing what they've asked us to do to try to help. I expect us to continue to do that.

QUESTION: What about the meeting with the FARC in Costa Rica? You said that maybe the FARC wasn't killing the American people. So what about the meeting in Costa Rica?

MR. RUBIN: I think I answered the question about the meeting. I'd be happy to answer --

QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

MR. RUBIN: The next step is for them to turn over those responsible for the killing of these Americans.

QUESTION: There have been allegations that the United States assisted the Guatemalan Government while it was known to be committing acts of genocide. What is the Administration's reaction to that?

MR. RUBIN: I've got some material I'll provide you after the briefing.

QUESTION: Anything on Pinochet?

MR. RUBIN: I have nothing new on that.

QUESTION: There's a story floating around in a British paper relating to the declassification of some of the cables from the Spanish judge about the meeting between Henry Kissinger and Pinochet and so on and so forth. Anyway, what is the status of the declassification?

MR. RUBIN: I will have to check that for you.

QUESTION: Back to Guatemala for a moment.

MR. RUBIN: I don't have any information on Guatemala; I'll have to get it for you after the briefing.

QUESTION: Today the Turkish police captured the same bomb attacker who attacked the governor of a southern state in Turkey. They admitted they trained in Greece at a camp named Alani (PH). Do you have anything on the subject?

MR. RUBIN: No, I don't.

QUESTION: Thank you.

(The briefing concluded at 1:50 P.M.)


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