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U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing #126, 97-09-03

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From: The Department of State Foreign Affairs Network (DOSFAN) at <http://www.state.gov>


966

U.S. Department of State
Daily Press Briefing

I N D E X

Wednesday, September 3, 1997

Briefer: James B. Foley

MIDDLE EAST
1          Dennis Ross meetings with Israeli delegation today, Palestinians
             tomorrow
1-2        Netanyahu list of Hamas and Islamic Jihad suspects
2          Shooting of Israelis near Jerusalem, likely criminal
2          Secretary Albright's flow of information

UNITED KINGDOM 2 Secretary will not attend Princess Diana's funeral; First Lady & Admiral Crowe attend 2 Secretary's flight arrangements Northern Ireland: Visa for Gerry Adams; classification of IRA as terrorist groups

TURKEY/ISRAEL 3 Trilateral Turkey-Israel-US military exercise in Mediterranean, SAR exercises; effect on peace process

BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA 3-5 Republika Srpska agreement with SFOR re return of broadcasrt transmitter to Pale Serb control; US scrutiny of specific commitments; US' major role in the decision 4 Application of free speech principles 5-7 Russian reaction to SFOR operations in RS, commitment to Dayton implementation 6 Municipal elections expected this month 6-7 Gelbard whereabouts, meetings

CAMBODIA 7-8 Amb Quinn meeting with King Sihanouk; status of Prince Ranariddh, other exiles 9 No Americans found onboard Vietnamese plane crash

NORTH KOREA 8 DPRK messages to US re defectors, effect on dialogue; status of four-party talks 9 Amb. Chang defection: no update on asylum request 14 US reaction to destruction caused by tidal wave; WFP assessment of need

CYPRUS 9-11 Tom Miller upcoming travel 9/7-20/97 to Europe; purpose of trip; timing of Cyprus resolution; Amb. Holbrooke activities; status of UN-sponsored negotiations 11 Request for press briefing by Tom Miller

ARMS CONTROL 12 Russian missiles found by Turkey aboard Egyptian vessel; US proliferation concerns

TURKEY 12 Arrests of Kurdish democracy advocates

MEXICO 14 President Zedillo remarks re development of democracy

ALGERIA 15 Recent wave of violence; US assessment of elections 15-16 US view of need for Algerian government dialogue with opposition; UNSYG remarks


DEPARTMENT OF STATE DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

DPB #126

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1997 12:40 P.M.

(ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)

MR. FOLEY: Greetings. I assume this is my water. This may be a week old.

Okay. I have no announcements.

Barry?

QUESTION: I don't have any questions. Yes, what's taking so long with the Israeli delegation? Have the talks been expanded or altered in any way?

MR. FOLEY: No. As far as I know, the composition has not expanded. I think we mentioned yesterday who was here on the Palestinian side.

QUESTION: Israeli.

MR. FOLEY: On the Israeli side. That's tomorrow. Thank you, Sid.

Mr. Naveh and Arad are here. But the meeting, apparently, is still going on.

QUESTION: When will the Palestinians come and talk to Ross?

MR. FOLEY: Tomorrow.

QUESTION: In the morning?

MR. FOLEY: I don't have that. I can get it for you.

QUESTION: As of now, the Palestinians and the Israelis are not planning -

MR. FOLEY: No. There are no trilateral meetings or joint Palestinian- Israeli meetings planned. The schedule is for the Israeli delegation to come in today and the Palestinian delegation tomorrow.

QUESTION: I asked you yesterday if you'd seen a report that Prime Minister Netanyahu had handed over a list of 1,500 alleged members of Hamas and the Islamic Jihad, and you said you would be looking into it. Do you have anything?

MR. FOLEY: I still haven't seen that report. I don't know if it was a wire report or a press report.

QUESTION: It was a report at a military base in --

MR. FOLEY: We didn't have that. But in any case, I'm not going to go into the details of those discussions within the security mechanism that has been established. We're going to let those take place on their own.

QUESTION: Have you all fleshed out what happened in Israel this morning with the shooting?

MR. FOLEY: Well, we haven't had an official report, for example, from our embassy there. I've only seen the press reports and spoken to some of our Middle East people who understand, at least on a preliminary basis, that it was probably of a criminal nature and certainly not a political or terrorist nature.

QUESTION: How will the Secretary - or will she hear about today's meetings and tomorrow's meetings from Dennis Ross? Or will she catch up on it later, or is she keeping in phone contact? Can you give us some sense of how this information gets to her?

MR. FOLEY: Well, as you know, she's on a private visit, and she's on vacation, a much deserved one. And she has been in some contact. I do know, when Princess Diana passed away, that there was some contact with her, at least with members of her traveling party. But I don't have any specific information on that, Barry.

QUESTION: General thing. Rumors persist that she might be attending the funeral, even though she's not part of the U.S. delegation. Do you have anything you can say on that?

MR. FOLEY: No, I have nothing on that. The White House announced --

QUESTION: Can you tell us she's not going to be at the funeral?

MR. FOLEY: That's my understanding, yes.

QUESTION: Is there anybody else that you are aware of, besides the First Lady, who will be attending from this country?

MR. FOLEY: I understand that Admiral Crowe, our ambassador, has been invited also to attend.

QUESTION: Are they the only two?

MR. FOLEY: As far as I know.

QUESTION: How did the Secretary fly to Europe, commercial or government?

MR. FOLEY: I'd have to check on that. I believe it was commercial, but I'd have to check for you.

QUESTION: Can you do that?

MR. FOLEY: Sure.

QUESTION: On the Middle East and about U.S., Israel and Turkish naval exercise in the east part of the Mediterranean.

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: Do you agree with the Syrian and Egyptian foreign ministers which are against this kind of exercise? They claim that this kind of exercise is harmful for the Middle East peace process.

MR. FOLEY: Well, we don't agree with that characterization. The fact is that these exercises are of a humanitarian nature; specifically, they involve humanitarian search and rescue operations. So we don't see any connection between these exercises and any sort of political developments in the Middle East. They exist on their own merit.

QUESTION: Bosnia?

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: Yesterday you were saying that the track record of the Bosnian Serbs isn't good, so you don't expect a whole lot from their promises of late saying that they're going to give more free air time to the transmissions that come out of Pale, et cetera.

That would lead some to believe that maybe SFOR - the only reason they returned the transmission to the Bosnian Serbs is because they were out- bullied by Karadzic's forces. How would you respond to that - that it was nothing more than a conciliatory measure on the part of NATO troops because they were afraid of a conflict?

MR. FOLEY: I wouldn't draw that conclusion at all. As I stated yesterday, in the judgment of SFOR and the High Representative it was deemed useful to give the Pale authorities an opportunity to comply with certain stipulations that they agreed to.

As I said, we are not optimistic, based on their track record. But they deemed it useful to give them a chance. And we're going to be watching every day now to see whether they live up to their specific commitments.

It will not be terribly difficult to make such a judgment. They agreed to stop spewing out hostile propaganda against the SFOR troops and against the international presence. They agreed to give Madame Plavsic a platform. They agreed to give the OHR a platform on the transmitter.

We will be able to determine very specifically whether they've met those commitments or not.

QUESTION: The return of the transmission was in no way to avert a clash - a possible outbreak?

MR. FOLEY: Well, you'd have to talk to SFOR about the tactical considerations that went into their judgment. But SFOR remains in the vicinity. It's maintaining a presence in the area of this broadcast tower. They're keeping an eye on the situation. SFOR and the international community is indeed monitoring how the Bosnian Serbs live up to these commitments. If they don't live up to these commitments, I think you'll have to stay tuned.

Yes.

QUESTION: (Inaudible)

MR. FOLEY: I don't have a report today out of the theater. You might have to check with SFOR on that. I don't have any reports that indicate they haven't lived up to it.

Judd.

QUESTION: Does the U.S. Government worry about free speech issues here? I mean, here we have the leading democracies of the world telling a radio station what it can and can't put on the air.

MR. FOLEY: We of course believe in free speech. We practice what we preach here and around the world.

However, the parties in Bosnia signed their names and made commitments at Dayton, specific commitments that involved respect for the terms of the Dayton agreement and involved commitments to respect SFOR's judgment and SFOR's conditions. It's been clearly stipulated that the kind of hateful propaganda that has been spewing forth from Bosnian Serb outlets is unacceptable. It's in that context that those decisions were made.

Sid.

QUESTION: Do you mean to leave the impression that the United States had no role in this decision, in this deal?

MR. FOLEY: Well, there's a chain of command at SFOR and it goes through SACEUR up to the North Atlantic Council. The North Atlantic Council met over the weekend and took a decision, which I referred to yesterday, that authorized SFOR to take necessary action in that regard.

The United States obviously participated in the Council decision.

QUESTION: So when you say - you keep, at least to me, giving the impression that this was an SFOR operation from beginning to end. Actually, the United States had a major voice in this decision.

MR. FOLEY: As a member of the North Atlantic Council, yes.

QUESTION: To what extent are the Russians involved what you're attempting to do in Bosnia? Are they silent partners? Or have they been - I've lost track. Gelbard was supposed to go to Moscow - did he go to --

MR. FOLEY: He did, yes.

QUESTION: To what extent are the Russians with the U.S. on this?

MR. FOLEY: Well, they certainly share our objectives. I think the international community is united, and that's, I think, not to be forgotten. There's a big change from where we were two years ago before Dayton. SFOR embodies that unity of purpose.

We believe that the Russians remain committed to our overall goals of Dayton implementation. We're currently in discussion with the Russians and with our other partners in SFOR and at NATO about the upcoming elections and the role of the international community in those elections.

I wouldn't want to comment beyond that because those discussions are ongoing.

QUESTION: The U.S. has chosen sides between the two Bosnian Serb factions. I wondered if the Russians made the same choice. You can tell me to ask them, but --

MR. FOLEY: I wouldn't characterize it that way. We didn't choose sides. We're there to implement Dayton, and one of the Bosnian Serbs sides -- who happens to be the constitutionally-elected president - has decided that she supports Dayton implementation.

QUESTION: Right. But you are - the U.S. is indeed --

MR. FOLEY: I would be surprised if anyone characterized the Russians, for example, as supporting those who oppose Dayton, including the Pale clique.

QUESTION: I understand. We all know the Russians are supposed to have some special influence with the Serbs. I mean, I'm not questioning your motives for choosing sides, and I'm not even accusing you of mission creep. But the U.S. has come down in support of one Bosnian Serb leader who is violently opposed by another Bosnian Serb leader. Whatever your reasons are - they could be perfectly valid - but I wonder if the Russians were with you on that?

MR. FOLEY: Well, I have no trouble accepting the characterization that we have been supporting the constitutionally-elected president of the Republika Srpska who supports Dayton implementation; and that we do oppose a clique of people headed, behind the scenes, by an indicted war criminal.

So I won't apologize for your characterization.

QUESTION: If this gets ugly, the question - if it gets ugly, you'll want to have as many friends as you can have. So do you have the Russians with you?

MR. FOLEY: Your point that the Russians can play a role and do have influence within the Serb communities there is one well taken. We have, I think, over the last few years counted on Russian influence in a positive sense.

Sid.

QUESTION: New subject?

QUESTION: One more --

MR. FOLEY: More on Bosnia?

QUESTION: Do you still expect or would you still like the municipal elections to take place this month?

MR. FOLEY: Very much so, and we still hope and expect that they will take place on time.

QUESTION: Any word from Gelbard?

MR. FOLEY: He's in Luxembourg, or has been today. He's flying, I believe, to London this evening. He's meeting with Foreign Minister Cook tomorrow. From there he goes on to Brussels. He's meeting with Secretary General Solana. I don't know about other meetings in Brussels.

QUESTION: Who did he meet with today?

MR. FOLEY: I'm sorry?

QUESTION: Who did he meet with today?

MR. FOLEY: Luxembourg officials in their capacity as EU president. I don't have the officials' names.

QUESTION: Can I just follow-up on what - something Barry said?

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: And to borrow from what Mr. Rubin has said from the podium, would you say the Russians are on the right side of history in the Bosnian matter?

MR. FOLEY: I'm not sure I understand the question.

QUESTION: The right side, meaning the side for the elected president and getting matters done constitutionally, rather than by thuggish ways.

MR. FOLEY: I don't know of any member of SFOR --

QUESTION: I guess that would be the right side of history.

MR. FOLEY: -- or the international community that does not support the elected president of Republika Srpska.

QUESTION: Would you say Russia's on the right side of history with the United States in this matter?

MR. FOLEY: Well, those are your words.

Sid.

QUESTION: New subject?

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: Cambodia. Can you tell us anything about Matt Quinn's meeting yesterday with the King - Ambassador Quinn's meeting yesterday with the King?

MR. FOLEY: I don't have a read-out of the meeting.

QUESTION: Ken Quinn, sorry.

MR. FOLEY: Ken Quinn, yes, Ambassador Ken Quinn. I have a general sense of the meeting, but not a specific read-out. I understand it went well. I think the King was very appreciative of U.S. efforts on behalf of Cambodian democracy, which has suffered so grievously in the last two months. He was encouraging the United States to continue in that role.

Ambassador Quinn, on his part, applauded the king's efforts to promote national reconciliation. We support the King's call for Hun Sen and Prince Ranariddh to join him in mediation in efforts to promote restoration of the democratic process in Cambodia, leading to free and fair elections next year. So that was the general nature of the meeting.

QUESTION: Did he express - did the king express an opinion to the ambassador about the wisdom of his son returning to Cambodia?

MR. FOLEY: I'm not sure, because, as I said, I didn't have a detailed read-out of that meeting.

Our position is clear, though, that all the exiled politicians ought to be able to return now and return freely and be able to operate freely in the political process in Cambodia.

QUESTION: Are the North Koreans - if I can switch --

MR. FOLEY: Are we finished with Cambodia?

QUESTION: I can't touch any usual bases. Are the North Koreans telling the Americans in any diplomatic way what they are saying publicly -- that the acceptance, the haven to these defectors creates hurdles in the path of the preliminary peace talks that are apparently still scheduled for September 15?

MR. FOLEY: The week of the 15th, yes.

QUESTION: Or the week of the 15th.

MR. FOLEY: Well, we have been in some contact. You know we had a meeting with them in New York on August 27. We haven't had a meeting since then, although that's not to be excluded. But we've been in at least telephonic contact with them. Without getting into specifics, though, what you've seen publicly has been reflected. But we've seen no indication, to this point, of a change of plans in regard to the four-party talks, which we still hope will take place the week of September 15. So we have nothing --

QUESTION: But no word from them.

MR. FOLEY: No word from them on that, no.

QUESTION: But no word that they are coming, either?

MR. FOLEY: No.

QUESTION: There's nothing new about rescheduling?

MR. FOLEY: No. North Korea still? Yes.

QUESTION: The investigation of Ambassador Chang, I know, is going on. When do I have the expectation that, officially, the State Department will announce his defection - his political asylum is accepted; specifically, what his defection motive is? Some kind of official announcement, can I expect that?

MR. FOLEY: No.

QUESTION: Do you mean, if he's granted asylum, we won't know it, unless he shows up in the briefing room?

MR. FOLEY: Well, if we have something to announce of that nature, we will. We will announce it. But I have nothing new to add to what Mr. Rubin had to say on the subject last week.

QUESTION: What he said, of course, it was premature to have said asylum.

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: The process is in train.

MR. FOLEY: If we have something to announce of that nature, we will.

QUESTION: I can't recall if you announce asylums.

MR. FOLEY: Well, you'll know it when you see it.

QUESTION: Or don't.

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: Jim, do you have any -- were there any Americans on board the Vietnamese plane that crashed in Cambodia?

MR. FOLEY: Just one moment. I have some information on the crash, if I can find it. As you know, I'm getting used to my book up here. Can't find it. But our embassy in Ho Chi Minh City, our representatives in Vietnam have been following this very closely. They've not been able to determine on the manifest that there were any American citizens on board. But we're continuing, obviously, to keep close contact with the authorities in Cambodia and Vietnam to monitor this.

To answer your question, we don't have any reports at this time that any of the passengers were American citizens.

QUESTION: Jim, are you ready to announce that Mr. Miller is going to Cyprus this weekend?

MR. FOLEY: Mr. Miller?

QUESTION: The other Miller, Tom Miller.

MR. FOLEY: Yes. Thank you for clarifying that. Tom Miller, yes, the new Special Cyprus Coordinator, is going to be going out to quite a number of capitals. I think his visit will take almost two weeks. I believe the dates are September 7 through 20. He will be going to Ankara, to Athens, to Nicosia and to a number of European capitals as well.

QUESTION: With the goal of...?

MR. FOLEY: Well, it's obviously his first visit in this capacity, so it's an initial visit. I wouldn't characterize it as an orientation tour because Mr. Miller is very well briefed and up to speed on all of the issues. But he'll certainly be taking the temperature in the different capitals and then reporting back, meeting with Department officials, meeting with Ambassador Holbrooke and then discussing with him where we go from there.

QUESTION: It doesn't sound like the kind of accelerated schedule that the Secretary has advised Israel and the Palestinians to get on. It seems like a rather relaxed two-week tour - no, I don't mean that he'd be loafing, but I say -- when do you foresee a settlement - perhaps the Turkish troops going home? When might all this happen?

MR. FOLEY: Well, as you know, there's a UN-sponsored process underway which we support.

QUESTION: When you announced Holbrooke it gave a - and of course, even when Sandy Berger did a speech at CSIS several months ago on Cyprus. It was way up there on the agenda.

MR. FOLEY: Well, as you know, Barry, in the conduct of diplomacy, the element of timing is critical. I know you've heard this about other regions of the world. Ambassador Holbrooke, of course, met with President Clerides, with Mr. Denktash in New York not too long ago. He's keeping a close eye on the situation. He's going to meet with Tom Miller on his return. Then they're going to decide what steps the U.S. Government may take.

I can't really forecast for you what those are going to be.

QUESTION: Is the UN process still, though, the mode that's out there?

MR. FOLEY: Well, it's an important process. I'm not aware that they've scheduled a next round of talks after their last Switzerland talks. But it's certainly been the prime forum and venue for negotiations.

QUESTION: Well, some optimism was expressed after that. And following up from Barry, it seems things have sort of plateaued.

MR. FOLEY: Well, I don't have any new information to give you on that. You might have to check with the UN to see where they are on it.

QUESTION: Well, but what I was actually driving at was, when does Holbrooke go full bore?

MR. FOLEY: Well, as I said, timing is critical. He and Mr. Miller are going to get together on Mr. Miller's return. When we have something to announce, we'll do so. I don't think that, for example, a date for a possible Holbrooke visit has been set. But he will undoubtedly be going out to the region.

Mr. Lambros.

QUESTION: Why the time is so critical?

MR. FOLEY: I'm sorry?

QUESTION: Why the time is so critical in this particular --

MR. FOLEY: Critical for what?

QUESTION: You said earlier that the time is critical for the Cyprus issue. And I am wondering why.

MR. FOLEY: I don't think I --

QUESTION: Could you arrange a briefing with Mr. --

MR. FOLEY: Okay, yes, thank you. I said timing is critical. In other words, determining the moment when --

QUESTION: Could you arrange a briefing with Mr. Miller, since he will be very active on the Cyprus issue?

MR. FOLEY: With special journalists.

QUESTION: Special journalists.

MR. FOLEY: I'd be happy to look into it for you.

QUESTION: Already, as far as for interview, I was told, officially, from the above, that Mr. Miller is available only on a selective basis, so I'm wondering why?

MR. FOLEY: I've not heard that. I'd have to look into it for you.

Yes.

QUESTION: Yesterday evening, the Turkish foreign minister announced that they found some Russian missiles on Egyptian cargo ships, which before they denied, you know. They didn't make any announcement.

MR. FOLEY: Who denied?

QUESTION: Both the Egypt and Turkish officials. But yesterday, officially, they announced that they found some missiles on the ship. Egypt claimed that those missiles belong to them. Even if those missiles belong to Egypt, do you have any concern on the arms race on the eastern side of the Mediterranean?

MR. FOLEY: Well, I'm glad you asked the question, because I owed Sid Balman an answer on that yesterday. Apparently, there were some erroneous press reports on that. What I can say today is that we've seen the press reports that Turkey stopped and inspected a vessel transporting missile parts in Turkish waters. We have no indication that these parts were destined for Cyprus. In fact, the Turkish Deputy Prime Minister, Mr. Ecevit, made a statement acknowledging that the missile parts are not destined for Cyprus.

QUESTION: All right. Let's take it apart. There were missile parts on an Egyptian ship; is that right?

MR. FOLEY: That's my understanding.

QUESTION: Are they North Korean missile parts destined for Egypt?

MR. FOLEY: I don't have -

QUESTION: Are you alarmed at all by missile parts in the area, which is a tinder box: Arab-Israeli, Turkish-Greek? You've got lots of problems there. State won't have any -- can you clarify, while you're denying that these are to land in Cyprus, where were the missile parts going?

MR. FOLEY: Well, Barry, I'd be happy to look into the matter for you. We're dealing with press reports at this point. We're not dealing with verifiable information or diplomatic information. So, to the extent that I am able, I'll get back to you on it.

QUESTION: All right. So what do we have? Has the U.S. Government asked Egypt about this yet?

MR. FOLEY: No. As I said, we've seen the press reports that indicate clearly that the wire report, or whatever was referred to yesterday was erroneous, that claimed that, apparently, Turkish authorities had alleged that they were destined for Cyprus. Those reports were incorrect.

QUESTION: Turkish authorities have made no such claim?

MR. FOLEY: No.

QUESTION: Okay.

MR. FOLEY: So I can't give you more information now, but if I'm able to, as we follow this --

QUESTION: There are missile parts afloat someplace and where they're bound for, it would be interesting.

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: Well, the State Department is curious; right?

MR. FOLEY: Certainly.

QUESTION: Well, because North Korea and Egypt have a missile arrangement, for one thing.

MR. FOLEY: No, the question was raised, are we concerned about an arms race and weapons deliveries in the region? And the answer is, of course, yes, and we're going to look into this. I don't have specific information I can give you today.

Yes.

QUESTION: On Turkey.

MR. FOLEY: One more on Turkey.

QUESTION: On Turkey, go on.

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: Have you seen a report that Turkish police arrested scores or dozens of Kurdish democracy advocates who were meeting in Turkey?

MR. FOLEY: I saw a headline of a ticker coming in, but I didn't read the article, and I don't have any information on it.

QUESTION: Could you look into that, please? It appears that they were there as part of a democracy convention and were arrested in their hotel.

MR. FOLEY: Well, I'd suggest you check with your colleagues in Turkey, as well. If we have information, I'd be glad to look into it for you.

QUESTION: Does this department have any comment or, for that matter, condolences on this North Korean tidal wave of the 21st of August that apparently took out a lot of their corn crop and displaced about 28,000 people? Can you confirm and possibly comment on that, Jim?

MR. FOLEY: Well, clearly the people of North Korea have been much plagued by calamity over the years and certainly in recent years.

We, as you know, have an ongoing program and commitment through the World Food Program to help address some of their most pressing food needs and humanitarian needs. So in that context, we would be willing to look at any additional requests that the World Food Program might bring our way.

Yes.

QUESTION: At this stage, it's interesting now because there's the tension with North Korea. The U.S. view has always been that food deliveries are treated separately from political issues. You announced two big deliveries, and the second one wasn't too long ago. But is there a third? Is there something afoot or being put together?

MR. FOLEY: This is not a very precise answer, but I had seen before I was away, a week ago, just press reports indicating that the World Food Program was doing a new assessment and might be coming forward with additional appeals. I don't think that's materialized yet. But we have an excellent track record.

QUESTION: Would the U.S. be willing to consider further food shipments, even though talks in one area have been broken off and are threatened in another area?

MR. FOLEY: Well, it's a hypothetical question, but answering just on a hypothetical basis, we have not failed to meet appeals for humanitarian assistance. We made, I think, an important policy decision not to link political considerations with the plight of the North Korean people and what we feel is a responsibility that is shared by the American people to help people in need. That hasn't changed.

Yes.

QUESTION: On Mexico, two days ago President Zedillo delivered his address to the nation for the first time in a congress dominated by the opposition parties. And it was the first time that the Mexicans had the real taste of democracy. Do you have any comment on that?

MR. FOLEY: Well, as you know, we welcomed the evidence of thriving democracy and political pluralism in Mexico at the time of the elections. And with the assembly convening, we see evidence that pluralism is at work. It's not always the prettiest way to do business. We have a lot of experience - over 200 years of it - ourselves, here in this country. We wish them well.

We think it's a positive, healthy sign of democratic health and vitality in Mexico.

Yes.

QUESTION: Do you have anything on the recent escalation of terrorist violence in Algeria?

MR. FOLEY: Well, we were horrified by the massacres that occurred over the last week. They really seem to have reached yet another astonishing threshold of barbarity. We condemn them unreservedly. We hope very much that somehow the Algerian people can work their way back towards some modicum of civility and of peace, and that the political system can begin to generate peaceful channels for dissent and to allow the Algerian people to overcome this nightmare.

There were parliamentary elections in June, and local elections are scheduled this Fall. So we are hopeful hat those elections again will offer Algerians an opportunity for meaningful participation in their country's political process.

QUESTION: There was a big --

MR. FOLEY: I'm sorry?

QUESTION: There was a big "but" in those elections - but not everybody participated.

MR. FOLEY: Well, we did not, I believe - and I'd have to check the record, I need to be careful characterizing them as necessarily completely free and fair, but we noted that they did take place. There was rather wide participation. The results, I think, generally, were deemed to have reflected the will of those who voted, and we regarded the elections as a hopeful step towards restoring dialogue and, hopefully, a predicate for ending the violence. Now that has not happened, and clearly there are groups in Algeria who have no interest in the political process, in any kind of election, and that is a horrible problem that they are having to deal with over there.

Yes.

QUESTION: Is it now time for the government of Algeria to open up a dialogue with the militants?

MR. FOLEY: Well, we understand that, with the new parliament, there is broader representation and that the political processes offer now some greater opportunities for the airing of different points of view. Of course, there was a recent release of one of the Islamic leaders from prison. I have seen reports that he may have been re-subjected to house arrest, but perhaps there was a nascent dialogue.

We're not opposed to dialogue, and we would support anything that can help bring Algeria back from the brink. These events of the last week, as I said, it's hard to match in words the horror that they inspire. They were truly stupefying.

Yes, Talal.

QUESTION: This Islamic leader, his name is Abassi Madani. He wrote a letter yesterday to Kofi Annan, asking him for the United Nations to interfere in Algeria. And today, the leader of the Socialist Party wrote another letter to Kofi Annan, asking that the international community take part and try to solve - Abassi Madani is accusing the government of carrying out some of these atrocities. Now, would the United States support the involvement of the United Nations to solve the problems?

MR. FOLEY: I think, really, that's a matter between the United Nations, the Secretary General, and the Algerian authorities. I wouldn't take a position on it. I think we would support the Secretary General in his own efforts.

Yes.

QUESTION: Can you say something about the IRA? Gerry Adams is here on, I guess, a four-city tour of the States. For a while he was having trouble getting a visa or he was sort of advised he would not get a visa. As I understand it, the State Department has been still deciding what groups will be classified as terrorist groups under Congress' anti-terrorism legislation. Is this a sign that the IRA will definitely not be classified as a terrorist group?

MR. FOLEY: I wouldn't want to prejudge the outcome of those deliberations, so I really couldn't answer that question. As to the issue of the visa for Mr. Adams, he had been issued a visa previously during periods of cease- fire. We have a cease fire-now underway. The Sinn Fein has agreed to participate; it will participate in the negotiations. The British Government has determined that the IRA cease-fire is now holding. On that basis, they will go forward with negotiations, including Sinn Fein, in September, and we support that.

QUESTION: Thank you.

MR. FOLEY: Thank you.

(The briefing concluded at 1:15 P.M.)


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