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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 19 Dekembrioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 370413631

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 19 Dekembrioy 2011

Kalo meshmeri.

Den exw na kanw kapoies eidikes anakoinwseis. To programma ayths ths ebdomadas perilambanei dyo Ypoyrgika Symboylia, me shmantika qemata: Qemata Ergasias thn Tetarth kai qemata Dikaiosynhs thn Pempth.

Sto telos toy epomenoy mhna h stis arxes Febroyarioy sxediazetai synodos Koryfhs sthn EE. Qa einai enas poly shmantikos mhnas, me sobares diapragmateyseis poy qa krinoyn kai to mellon toy eyrw, alla kai th dikh mas sxesh me thn eyrwzwnh sto metro poy qa yparjei diapragmateysh gia to PSI kai to neo programma, sto plaisio ths daneiakhs symbashs.

Nomizw, loipon, oti mpainoyme amesws meta tis giortes, se periodo poly sobarwn ejelijewn. Ayto den shmainei oti qa stamathsei h leitoyrgia ths kybernhshs mesa stis giortes. Den prokeitai na yparjei kanena dialeimma. H kybernhsh qa synexisei na leitoyrgei kanonika olo ayto to diasthma twn giortwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MARAQIAS: Dieykrinistika, gi` ayto poy eipate gia th Diaskech Koryfhs: Qa asxolhqei me qemata ellhnikoy endiaferontos;

KACHS: Oxi, qa einai genikotera qemata, poy opws gnwrizoyme ayth th stigmh einai anoixta se olh thn eyrwzwnh. Einai periodos krishs, poy anaferetai sto mellon mas. Den exoyme kaqoloy periqwria efhsyxasmoy.

MALTEZOY: Mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh: Eipate arxes Ianoyarioy qa einai h Diaskech Koryfhs;

KACHS: H Diaskech Koryfhs qa einai telh Ianoyarioy - arxes Febroyarioy. Mporei na exei oristikopoihqei kai na mhn to gnwrizw egw.

KOLIOPOYLOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw, h synanthsh toy k. Papadhmoy me toys k. Tambakakh kai Rapano einai gia to PSI;

KACHS: Oxi, den exei eidiko antikeimeno. Einai mia genikh enhmerwsh.

KOLIOPOYLOY: Nai, gia poia qemata;

KACHS: Einai anoixta qemata, poy exoyn sxesh me tis trapezes, einai h diapragmateysh toy PSI, einai tosa polla zhthmata poy fantazomai oti qa syzhthsoyn. Den exei kapoia eidikh atzenta.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela na rwthsw ean problhmatizoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh oi dhlwseis ypoyrgwn, opws toy k. Loberdoy, poy leei oti h xwra katarreei kai me Papadhmo.

KACHS: Egw den exw na kanw kapoio sxolio gia ton k. Loberdo. Exw na epishmanw, omws, oti ayth h kybernhsh sxhmatisthke akribws gia na antimetwpisei ta para poly sobara problhmata poy exei na antimetwpisei aytos o topos. Apo ayto qa kriqei kai apo ayto qa kriqoyn kai oi ypoyrgoi, me to ergo toys, to opoio ofeiloyn na prowqhsoyn. Dhladh, tis megales diarqrwtikes allages, poy exoyme mprosta mas. Qa kriqoyme apo to ergo mas, oxi apo ta logia mas.

GIAKOYMHS: Hqela kyrie Ekproswpe na sas rwthsw, ean problhmatizoyn ton k. Papadhmo kapoioi ypoyrgoi, oi opoioi asxoloyntai me ta eswkommatika toy PA.SO.K. kai ean einai problhma ayto sthn peraiterw wqhsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

KACHS: Einai mia periodos poy, gnwrizoyme oti se ola ta kommata yparxoyn sobares diadikasies dialogoy. To bebaion einai oti oloi oi ypoyrgoi qa prepei na einai afosiwmenoi 100% sto ergo toys.

SIDERHS: Parola ayta, synexizetai kata kapoion tropo ayth h eswkommatikh diamaxh.

KACHS: Den exw na kanw kapoio sxolio gia ta eswkommatika twn kommatwn.

SIDERHS: Oxi, alla efoson qa yparjei ypochfios...

KACHS: Exoyme pei oti oloi oi ypoyrgoi ajiologoyntai. Kai oloi oi ypoyrgoi qa prepei na einai afosiwmenoi sto ergo toys. Ayto einai safes. Eimaste se periodo para poly dyskolh. Den yparxoyn alla periqwria kai ayto einai apolytws safes sto myalo olwn mas. Fantazomai kai se oloys toys ypoyrgoys.

KWBAIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pianomai apo thn teleytaia apanthsh sas, alla kai kati poy eipate molis pro oligoy. Oi ypoyrgoi qa ajiologhqoyn kai qa kriqoyn...

KACHS: Ajiologoyntai kai krinontai. Den einai diadikasia poy qa erqei kapoia stigmh. Einai mia synexhs diadikasia. Ajiologoymeqa oloi. Kai egw krinomai.

KWBAIOS: Oxi sth ``nekrocia'', loipon. Yparxei periptwsh o Prwqypoyrgos na parembei an to krinei anagkaio h qewrhsei oti kapoios ypoyrgos...

KACHS: Prwton, den dexomai th ``nekrocia''. Nomizw oti stoxos olwn mas einai na petyxoyme. Eimaste ypoxrewmenoi na petyxoyme kai h kybernhsh ayth einai apofasismenh na petyxei. Kai asfalws, an xreiastei o Prwqypoyrgos na parembei, qa parembei. Den exw kamia amfibolia.

MPEKA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o Prwqypoyrgos leei oti den qa parqoyn nea metra. Hdh, omws, ayth thn ebdomada...

KACHS: Pote to eipe ayto o Prwqypoyrgos;

MPEKA: Mesa sthn prohgoymenh ebdomada. Ayto elege, oti den qa paroyme alla metra. Hdh, ayth thn ebdomada qa ginei nea perikoph stis syntajeis. Kai milame gia tis epikoyrikes. Kai ayto einai ergo ths dikhs sas kybernhshs, dhladh qa ginei me thn ypografh ths dikhs sas kybernhshs. Pws to sxoliazete ayto;

KACHS: Einai dyo zhthmata: To ena einai to zhthma twn metrwn, sto opoio exei anaferqei o Prwqypoyrgos sthn teleytaia omilia toy sto Ellhnoamerikaniko Epimelhthrio. Alla, perissotero - gia na doyme oti orismena zhthmata dhmioyrgoyntai xwris na yparxei logos - exei anaferqei stis programmatikes dhlwseis. Diabaste tis programmatikes dhlwseis kai qa deite poia einai h anafora gia ta metra. Einai apolyta safhs.

Twra, yparxei ena deytero erwthma se sxesh me tis epikoyrikes syntajeis. Jerete oti exoyn bgei analogistikes meletes. Gnwrizoyme oloi oti yparxei terastio problhma stis epikoyrikes syntajeis. Exei kanei sxetikes dhlwseis o k. Koytroymanhs. Proqesh ths kybernhshs einai na swsei tis epikoyrikes syntajeis kai na ginoyn, oso to dynaton, mikroteres perikopes me thn enopoihsh twn epikoyrikwn tameiwn. Ayth einai h proqesh ths kybernhshs. Sas epanalambanw, deite tis programmatikes dhlwseis. Gia perissoteres leptomereies qa sas parepempa ston k. Koytroymanh.

MOSXOBAS: Epeidh eipate oti qa parembei, an xreiastei, o Prwqypoyrgos kai oti oloi oi ypoyrgoi qa prepei na einai 100% proshlwmenoi sto ergo toys: Yparxei skech osoi ypoyrgoi katelqoyn ypochfioi sthn eswkommatikh diadikasia toy PA.SO.K. - hdh apo twra, lew, an yparxei skech- na mhn einai ypoyrgoi; Na antikatastaqoyn; To ena einai ayto kai to deytero, an qa qelate na mas dieykrinisete ayto poy eipate sthn arxh, oti einai poly krisimh h periodos gia to mellon kai ths eyrwzwnhs kai ths xwras mas, edw. Pisteyete oti mporei na dialyqei h eyrwzwnh h na bgei h xwra ektos eyrw;

KACHS: Gia to prwto, ej oswn gnwrizw, akomh den exoyn jekinhsei oi diadikasies sto PA.SO.K. Na perimenoyme kai na doyme tote.

To oti einai krisimes oi diadikasies gia thn eyrwzwnh, den xreiazetai na to poyme emeis. Parakoloyqeite thn epikairothta kai blepete ti ginetai. An qelete, stoxos mas einai na apotrecoyme opoiodhpote atyxhma. Kai profanestata o basikos stoxos ayths ths kybernhshs einai na prostateysei th qesh ths xwras mas sthn eyrwzwnh.

KOYTRAS: Se synexeia toy erwthmatos toy k. Mosxoba, anaforika me toys ypoyrgoys: Den exei jekinhsei h diadikasia, wstoso qa jekinhsei. Ypoqetw oti o k. Papadhmos exei staqmisei kapoioys paragontes. Qa kalesei, loipon, osoys ypoyrgoys, osa koryfaia stelexh toy PASOK briskontai s' ayth thn kybernhsh kai einai ypochfioi arxhgoi toy PASOK na fygoyn apo thn kybernhsh; Kai to deytero poy qelw na rwthsw, anaforika me tis ekloges, o k. Papadhmos gnwrizei poio einai to ergo ths kybernhshs, gnwrizei tis dyskolies kai gnwrizei poso xrono xreiazetai gia na ylopoihqei ayto to ergo. O xronos poy exei prosdioristei, ton ftanei;

KACHS: Poios einai o xronos poy exei prosdioristei;

KOYTRAS: H 19h Febroyarioy. Symfwna me ola ta kommata...

KACHS: Syn-plhn.

KOYTRAS: Syn-plhn kapoies ebdomades, opws leei o k. Samaras.

KACHS: Anoigoyme qemata poy - koitajte, pisteyw oti kala kanete kai ta anoigete, ki egw sth qesh sas to idio qa ekana. Den sas paradidw maqhmata, omws, anoigoyme qemata ta opoia einai sthn pragmatikothta kleista. Yparxei mia symfwnia twn kommatwn. Ayth h symfwnia threitai. Me bash ayth th symfwnia phgainoyme, h opoia prosdiorizetai apo to basiko ths stoixeio, poy einai h oloklhrwsh toy ergoy. Ayto to ergo prepei na oloklhrwqei. To pote akribws, qa fanei sth synexeia. Profanestata yparxei mia symfwnia. Den anaireitai ayth h symfwnia, h opoia omws orizetai kat' arxas apo to ergo. Kai ayto qa oloklhrwqei. Ean qa einai 19 Febroyarioy, ligo argotera h oxi, qa fanei sthn poreia. Mhn dhmioyrgoyme thn aisqhsh oti jafnika exei allajei kati. Oxi, aplws to ergo emfanizetai sthn poreia. Den jeroyme pote qa oloklhrwqei to PSI. Den jeroyme pote qa oloklhrwqoyn oi diapragmateyseis. Den qa stamathsoyme thn kybernhsh, protoy ginoyn ayta ta pragmata. Yparxei mia genikh ektimhsh kai me ayth phgainoyme. Ean allajei ayto, qa allajei kai o xronos ths kybernhshs, alla mesa sto plaisio ths symfwnias poy einai h oloklhrwsh toy ergoy.

KOYTRAS: Kai anaforika me to prwto skelos toy erwthmatos moy, an qa kalesei o k. Papadhmos, an to exei skefqei...

KACHS: Den exei teqei, ayth th stigmh, ena tetoio zhthma. Den exei teqei. To mono poy einai safes einai oti oloi oi ypoyrgoi qa prepei na einai 100% afierwmenoi sto ergo toys. Den yparxei periqwrio ypoyrgwn merikhs apasxolhshs. Einai profanes.

MARAQIAS: Me aformh ta osa proeipame kai me aformh tis skopimothtes poy blepoyme apo ta kommata poy sthrizoyn thn kybernhsh Papadhmoy, noiwqei o Prwqypoyrgos mhpws oti einai omhros aytwn twn kommatikwn skopimothtwn;

KACHS: O Prwqypoyrgos - sas diabebaiw- den noiwqei kaqoloy omhros. Einai apofasismenos na proxwrhsei to ergo ths kybernhshs me th sthrijh kai twn triwn kommatwn poy chfisan tis programmatikes dhlwseis. Sygxwrhste me poy sas parapempw synexeia stis programmatikes dhlwseis, alla einai grammeno sthn ``petra''. Ayto chfisan kai ta tria kommata. Kai einai, ara, poly shmantiko na to gnwrizoyme kai na jeroyme ti synepagetai.

MOYRELATOY: Me dedomeno oti o k. Reppas oysiastika thn Paraskeyh eipe oti o kyklos ths efedreias exei oloklhrwqei kai ara den tiqetai, toylaxiston symfwna me th dikh toy gnwmh, logos kai aitiologia wste na parataqei ayto to metro, ti protiqetai na kanei h kybernhsh; O Prwqypoyrgos exei estiasei kapoy thn prosoxh toy; Pws qa antimetwpisei thn epitagh ths troikas na meiwqoyn oi dhmosioi ypallhloi me kapoio tropo;

KACHS: Yparxei h desmeysh na meiwqoyn oi dhmosioi ypallhloi mexri to 2015. Ayth h desmeysh mporei na ekplhrwqei me para polloys tropoys. Ta exoyme syzhthsei, ta gnwrizete. Kai mono oi apoxwrhseis logw syntajiodothshs, piqanotata na eparkoyn. 'Ara, ayth th stigmh, den yparxei kapoio qema poy na apasxolei thn kybernhsh se sxesh me to zhthma ths efedreias.

STRATAKHS: 'Hqela na rwthsw an arkei h aplh pleiochfia gia na perasei ena nomosxedio ths kybernhshs Papadhmoy sth Boylh h to proapaitoymeno einai h symfwnia kai twn triwn kommatwn, dhladh den qa arkei h aplh pleiochfia; Kai ena deytero: Ean h kybernhsh Papadhmoy einai yper ths fhmologoymenhs ayjhshs sth DEH kata 12% ews 15% kai ean ayto synista ayjhsh ths forologias.

KACHS: Ws pros ta metra, qa sas parapemcw kai pali stis programmatikes dhlwseis kai sto oti stis programmatikes dhlwseis perigrafetai h symfwnia twn triwn kommatwn na laboyn osa metra xreiazontai gia na ylopoihqei to ergo ths kybernhshs. Sxetika me th DEH, yparxei to aithma ths DEH kai yparxoyn, ayth th stigmh, diapragmateyseis metajy DEH, ypoyrgeioy kai RAE, me basiko krithrio na prostateyqei to eisodhma twn katanalwtwn, na prostateyqoyn oi katanalwtes apo adikaiologhtes h yperogkes ayjhseis, alla bebaia na prostateyqei kai h DEH, h opoia exei ena megalo daneiako baros to opoio qa prepei na synexisei na ikanopoiei.

PERDIKARHS: Dyo pragmata: To prwto, milhsate gia to ergo ths kybernhshs kai oti apo ayto qa kriqei. Einai eyxaristhmenos o Prwqypoyrgos apo to gegonos oti 45 meres meta ton sxhmatismo ths kybernhshs den exei chfistei oyte ena nomosxedio apo th Boylh, para mono o Proypologismos; Kai to deytero, se synexeia twn erwthmatwn twn synadelfwn: Perimenei, endexomenws, kapoia parembash san mia kinhsh kalhs qelhshs apo ton k. Papandreoy, endexomenws kai apo toys alloys arxhgoys, o Prwqypoyrgos, gia na stamathsoyn oi antegklhseis metajy ypoyrgwn kai ean syzhthqhke ayto sth synanthsh toy thn Paraskeyh me ton k. Papandreoy.

KACHS: To ergo ths kybernhshs, mexri stigmhs, einai para poly shmantiko. Sas qymizw oti h 6h dosh htan ston aera otan anelabe ayth h kybernhsh. Kai bebaia, h chfish toy Proypologismoy einai para poly shmantikh. Epiprosqetws, yparxei mia seira nomosxediwn, ta opoia qa erqoyn pros chfish apo th Boylh sto epomeno diasthma. Twra, o Prwqypoyrgos den perimenei tipota apo kanenan. H kybernhsh ayth, me th sthrijh kai twn triwn kommatwn, qa proxwrhsei to ergo ths. Ayto einai dedomeno.

SEGKOS: Sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio ths Tetarths, ektos apo th meiwsh twn epikoyrikwn syntajewn kai tis parembaseis sto asfalistiko...

KACHS: Den yparxei ws eidiko qema h meiwsh twn epikoyrikwn syntajewn. To qema toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy ths Tetarths einai ta ergasiaka.

SEGKOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean sth synedriash toy meqayrianoy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy qa teqei qema katwtatoy misqoy.

KACHS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, den yparxei, ayth th stigmh, tetoio qema syzhthshs sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Qa syzhthqoyn, synolika, ta ergasiaka. Gia to qema toy katwtatoy misqoy, nomizw oti ekane shmera mia dhlwsh o k. Koytroymanhs, sthn opoia kai sas parapempw.

KEXAGIA: H kybernhsh qewrei oti exei ejasfalismenh thn epomenh dosh, poy den einai mia tyxaia dosh, to ycos ths einai 89 dis. eyrw, enocei malista kai ths diaskechs koryfhs poy mas eipate oti qa ginei ...

KACHS: Eimaste stis diapragmateyseis gia thn ejasfalish ayths ths doshs. Oloi gnwrizoyme poso shmantikh einai ayth h dosh. Einai krisimes diapragmateyseis kai aytes einai se ejelijh. Profanws, stoxos mas einai na petyxoyme kai me toys kalyteroys dynatoys oroys, alla qa prepei isws na analogistoyme oloi oti einai mia ypoqesh para - para poly sobarh h opoia kai apo thn pleyra twn Eyrwpaiwn antimetwpizetai me ejairetikh sobarothta. Qa dwsoyn 89 dis. eyrw kai qa anoijoyn ena terastio programma xrhmatodothshs ths Elladas, to opoio profanws proypoqetei kapoioys oroys poy prepei na mpoyn kai apo tis dyo pleyres. Ayto einai to megalo zhthma poy exoyme, pragmatika mprosta mas, giati eilikrina pisteyw oti qa allajei toys oroys leitoyrgias ths ellhnikhs oikonomias.

MOSXOBAS: Sygxwrhste me poy epimenw, alla epeidh einai kombikos o rolos aytos toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn. Egw qa eklabw ws dedomenh thn proqesh toy k. Benizeloy na diekdikhsei thn hgesia toy PA.SO.K . Exei bolidoskophsei o k. Papadhmos kapoion antikatastath toy k. Benizeloy;

KACHS: Profanws oxi. Den exei teqei tetoio zhthma. O k. Benizelos einai ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn kai kanei to ergo toy apolyta afosiwmenos. Den yparxei tetoio qema.

MPEKA: Ws gnwston o k. Papadhmos einai enas texnokraths kai den exei prohgoymenh politikh empeiria. Exei skopo na akoloyqhsei kariera Prwqypoyrgoy stis epomenes ekloges;

KACHS: Qa diafwnhsw me ton oro ``texnokraths''. Htan kentrikos trapeziths kai o kentrikos trapeziths einai kat` ejoxhn syndedemenos me thn diamorfwsh politikwn. Ayto merikes fores teinoyme na to jexasoyme sthn Ellada. Exei asxolhqei me thn diamorfwsh politikwn kai ayth th stigmh ayto poy exei anagkh h xwra mas einai politikes. Gia ``kariera'' Prwqypoyrgoy, den gnwrizw. Pws qa akoloyqhsei ``kariera'' Prwqypoyrgoy; Einai Prwqypoyrgos.

MOYRELATOY: Hqela na rwthsw an exete enhmerwsh, giati diabazoyme shmera ston Typo oti ejetazei to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn na ginontai pleon oi agores mesw pistwtikhs kartas, wste na diasfalisei thn katabolh toy FPA apo tis epixeirhseis. Einai mia skech; Einai mia apofash;

KACHS: Opws einai gnwsto h kybernhsh kai to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn exoyme analabei thn ypoxrewsh na paroysiasoyme ena kainoyrgio forologiko nomosxedio. Ayto qa ginei kai sto plaisio ayths ths syzhthshs, einai fysiko na diatypwnontai mia seira apo protaseis, skeceis kai idees. Den yparxei tipote apofasismeno ayth th stigmh. Qa paroysiastei oloklhrwmena otan erqei h wra toy..

KOLIOPOYLOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw an yparxei qema anasxhmatismoy ayths ths kybernhshs prin apo ta opoiadhpote metra. Kai oson afora gia ta metra o k. Benizelos eixe epibebaiwsei oti den qa parqoyn kapoia kainoyrgia metra ektos apo to polynomosxedio toy Ioynioy. Eseis lete twra oti qa parqoyn kapoia metra. Poy eimaste;

KACHS: Qema anasxhmatismoy den yparxei. Oson afora ta metra , exw anaferqei para polles fores. Sas epanalambanw, oti mporeite na anatrejete stis programmatikes dhlwseis ths kybernhshs opoy anaferontai mia seira metrwn. Kai profanws opoiadhpote alla metra xreiastoyn gia na oloklhrwqoyn oi diapragmateyseis kai ayta qa prepei na ta labei ayth h kybernhsh. O k. Benizelos htan safhs se ayta poy eipe. Eipe oti qa prepei na lhfqoyn me thn yposthrijh kai twn triwn kommatwn. Den eipe oti den prepei na lhfqoyn nea metra. Eipe oti ta opoia metra qa prepei na exoyn thn yposthrijh kai twn triwn kommatwn. Ayth h kybernhsh opws gnwrizete exei thn yposthrijh twn triwn kommatwn.

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