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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 14 Febroyarioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 316026270

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 14 Febroyarioy 2011

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

H kybernhsh poreythke mexri shmera me ychlh synaisqhsh toy eqnikoy kaqhkontos ths swthrias ths xwras kai parallhla twn megalwn diarqrwtikwn allagwn ths dhmioyrgias twn basewn ths ygioys anaptyjhs kai th metabash se mia nea diaforetikh nootropia.

Mia nootropia diafaneias, eilikrinoys dialogoy kai diaboyleyshs me toys koinwnikoys foreis.

Mia nootropia diarkoys prosklhshs gia synainesh kai dialogo me tis ypoloipes politikes dynameis.

Prepei oles oi politikes dynameis na antilhfqoyn oti nai men oi ypoxrewseis poy aporreoyn apo to mnhmonio lhgoyn to 2013, alla den lhgei h eqnikh prospaqeia anatajhs twn dynamewn ths xwras. Den protiqemeqa na ekqesoyme th xwra se paromoioys kindynoys pote jana.

H prospaqeia ayth, synepws, yperbainei th qhteia mias kybernhshs. Ara, einai eqniko xreos olwn mas ayth thn periodo poy biwnoyme na yparjei eqnikh synennohsh se mia seira apo sygkekrimena kai shmantika zhthmata. Einai h stigmh poy kaqe politikh dynamh ofeilei na apodeijei ton patriwtismo kai th synaisqhsh toy eqnikoy symferontos kai ths istorikothtas twn apofasewn poy kaloymaste na laboyme.

H istoria grafetai apo toys parontes -ayto einai apodedeigmeno- pote apo toys apontes, toys eyqynofoboys kai toys krymmenoys.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

XIDIROGLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, giati kaqysterhse toso poly na antidrasei h kybernhsh sth synenteyjh ths troikas;

PETALWTHS: Ayth einai mia erwthsh kai mia aporia poy diakineitai oles aytes tis hmeres. Emeis den apofasizoyme en qermw kai den prospaqoyme na deijoyme oti eimaste apofasistikoi xwris na synektimoyme oles tis parametroys. Ekeino to opoio mas endiaferei kai ayto kaname, einai na yparxei synektimhsh olwn twn parametrwn se shmantikotata zhthmata gia ton topo mas kai na antidroyme me ton tropo poy antidrasame. Kai h antidrash mas ayth eixe ws apotelesma kai thn antidrash ths troikas kai twn organismwn kai forewn poy ekproswpoyn edw. Qa prepei kapote, epiteloys, na blepoyme thn oysia. Kai h oysia einai oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh antedrase otan yphrje zhthma apo th symperifora ths troikas. Kai nomizw oti, ean o dialogos ejantleitai sto giati h anakoinwsh egine stis 1:10 to brady kai giati oxi stis 9 to brady, tote pragmatika adikeitai h oysia. Kai as mhn jexname, fysika - epeidh to akoyw kai apo th N. D. - oti h N. D. antedrase thn allh mera to meshmeri.

SPANOY: Gia na meinoyme sthn oysia, opws mas kaleite, telikws exei symfwnhqei programma apokratikopoihsewn ycoys 50 dis eyrw ws to 2015 kai qa yparxei kapoia tetoia problech sto epikairopoihmeno mnhmonio;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, einai dikh mas apofash na baloyme ws stoxo ta 50 dis eyrw. Ena stoxo o opoios einai endeiktikos kai o opoios akribws apodeiknyei kai deixnei thn kateyqynsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs na perasoyme se megales diarqrwtikes allages kai sthn ajiopoihsh ths perioysias ths xwras mas. Den milame gia pwlhseis, den milame gia ``jepoylhma'', opws mas kathgoroyn. Milame gia ajiopoihsh poy exoyme amesh ypoxrewsh, epiteloys sxediasmena, na th baloyme mpros. Qa prepei na mhn jexname oti, akoma kai shmera, h megalh perioysia poy exei to ellhniko dhmosio einai akatagrapth, poso mallon de anajiopoihth. Ara, einai ypoxrewsh mas na katagracoyme ayth thn perioysia. Kai hdh yparxoyn ergasies pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Sas parapempw sthn apofash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs Apokratikopoihsewn poy egine ton Dekembrio toy 2010, opoy gia prwth fora sto ellhniko kratos yphrje toso systhmatikh katagrafh sto pws qa ekmetalleyqoyme, pws qa ajiopoihsoyme thn perioysia toy Dhmosioy, h opoia se polles periptwseis h einai anajiopoihth h einai katapathmenh h en pash periptwsei, menontas akatagrapth, polles fores kindyneyei kai na xaqei. Milame omws gia ajiopoihsh kai oxi gia pwlhsh, etsi opws diaxeetai tis teleytaies hmeres.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, milate gia dikh sas apofash na ajiopoihqei h dhmosia perioysia. Wstoso, yphrjan dhlwseis synadelfwn sas, opws toy k. Papakwntantinoy poy zhtoysan to sygkekrimeno ayto qema na teqei se gnwsh kai enhmerwsh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Ara, gia poia apofash milame kai poios thn elabe; En kryptw, se kleisto kyklo;

PETALWTHS: Kaqoloy se kleisto kyklo. Epanalambanw oti o stoxos poy mphke einai endeiktikos stoxos. Den yparxei sygkekrimenh apofash pws qa ajiopoihqei ayth h perioysia. Alla opws exoyn mpei mexri twra oi stoxoi, etsi akribws mphke ki aytos o stoxos twn 50 dis. O phxys einai ychlos. Ton balame omws emeis kai ayto einai to shmantiko. Kai einai ychlos giati kai oi prosdokies poy exoyme pleon emeis oi Ellhnes apo thn poreia ths xwras mas, einai ychloi. Den yparxei qema nomimopoihshs ayths ths apofashs. Einai enas apo toys polloys stoxoys poy exoyn mpei mexri twra. Kai fysika h prajh exei apodeijei oti oi stoxoi poy bazoyme emeis, ws kybernhsh, se poly megalo, syntriptiko pososto, ylopoioyntai.

SIDERHS: Afoy to exete apofasisei eseis giati to anakoinwsan oi anqypatoi ths troikas; Kai deyteron, ekdwsate anakoinwsh 1:10 ta mesanyxta...Mhpws epeidh exete tosh ergwdh prospaqeia kai den prolabainate nwritera; Oxi eseis proswpika h kybernhsh...

PETALWTHS: Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, akribws epeidh thn anakoinwsan oi ekproswpoi ths troikas, gi' ayto yphrje ki ayth h antidrash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Epanalambanw oti to na baloyme enan tetoio stoxo, me toso ychlo phxy, htan kai einai dikh mas apofash, ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, kai gi' ayto akribws eipame jekaqara oti h stash twn ekproswpwn ths troikas htan aparadekth. Den exoyn kanena dikaiwma na anakoinwnoyn apofaseis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Allos einai o rolos toys. Exoyme episthsei thn prosoxh toys polles fores ws pros ayto. Apo th stigmh, omws, poy yperebhsan to metro, yphrxe kai h analogh antidrash.

Oson afora to deytero skelos, gia to oti h anakoinwsh egine sth 1:10, epanalambanw oti ayto poy mas endiaferei einai me dynamikothta, apofasistikothta kai me metro poy epiballoyn oi synqhkes stis opoies politeyomaste kai zoyme, na antidroyme kai ayto kanoyme oson afora sta eqnika mas symferonta.

SIDERHS: An qymamai, ton Dekembrio eixate pei gia 7 - 8 dis eyrw. To gegonos oti ftanei sta 50 den einai mia endeijh, an oxi apodeijh ths apotyxias toy mnhmonioy;

PETALWTHS: Kaqoloy. Isa - isa apo ton Dekembrio, opoy egine enas ypologismos gia ta 7 dis, sto pws qa ta ajiopoihsoyme - mexri to 2013 miloysame gia 7 dis - kai ftasame na baloyme ena stoxo poly ychlotero poy ftanei sta 50 dis. Kai ayto deixnei akribws oti to mexri twra programma mas petyxainei. Einai epomeno oti mporoyme na kanoyme pleon megales diarqrwtikes allages kai exoyme dynatothtes na ajiopoihsoyme se poly megalytero baqmo th dhmosia perioysia. Epeidh apo kapoioys akoygetai entelws aneyqyna oti 50 dis den einai oloklhrh h dhmosia perioysia, sas ypenqymizw oti kai o Prwqypoyrgos alla kai diaforoi alloi politikoi arxhgoi exoyn pei kata diasthmata kai kata proseggish, fysika, oti h dhmosia perioysia kai malista ayth poy einai pros ajiopoihsh kai ekmetalleysh, oxi pros pwlhsh, anerxetai panw apo ta 270 dis. Qewroyme, dhladh, oti o stoxos twn 50 dis einai realistikos, einai omws endeiktikos kai oxi perioristikos. Einai endeiktikos sto oti apokthsame mia dynamikh, efarmozontas sygkekrimeno programma poy mas epitrepei na bazoyme toso megaloys stoxoys gia thn ajiopoihsh ths perioysias, h opoia einai anajiopoihth edw kai para polles dekaeties.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti den xreiazetai nomimopoihsh aytos o stoxos. To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio den einai mono gia na nomimopoiei. Einai gia na enhmerwnetai ka na ekfrazei gnwmh. Einai dynaton mia tetoia kinhsh poy einai to 1/5 ths dhmosias perioysias na to apofasizei o k. Papakwnstantinoy, o Prwqypoyrgos - xwris na ton amfisbhtei kaneis - kai h troika kai na mhn yperxetai se gnwsh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy; O k. Papandreoy einai yper ths diaboyleyshs kai oi idioi oi ypoyrgoi toy den gnwrizan ayto to gegonos.

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola den to apofasise h troika, to apofasisame emeis. An h anakoinwsh ginotan apo thn kybernhsh, qa yphrxe kai h diadikasia poy akoloyqeitai. Dhladh, syzhthsh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai sth synexeia diaboyleysh. Epanalambanw, omws, oti oi ryqmoi me toys opoioys doyleyoyme einai taxistoi. Oi stoxoi poy qetoyme einai apanwtoi kai enas ap' aytoys toys stoxoys einai h ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias. Den eprokeito peri pwlhshs gia na apaiteitai mia dieyrymenh nomimopoihsh kai pote den qa to kaname ayto. Emeis, ayth h paratajh, ayth h kybernhsh den qa mporoyse pote na milaei gia pwlhsh dhmosias perioysias 50 dis eyrw. Qetoyme ena stoxo gia ajiopoihsh. Ta epimeroys einai qemata syzhthsews kai fysika synergasias kai pollwn ypoyrgeiwn. As mhn jexname oti h dhmosia perioysia gia thn opoia milame, einai mia perioysia poy anhkei sthn armodiothta pollwn ypoyrgeiwn. Ara, den yphrxe periptwsh na ftasoyme sthn ajiopoihsh ths xwris na emplakoyn polla ypoyrgeia, poso mallon na laboyn gnwsh. Alla mphke ws endeiktikos stoxos kai mono s' ayto to epipedo.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, epeidh aytes tis dyo-treis meres sto epikentro ths kritikhs exei breqei o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn - h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh zhthse thn paraithsh toy- alla kai sto eswteriko ths kybernhshs akoyme kritikh gia toys xeirismoys, an o k. Papakwnstantinoy apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

PETALWTHS: Safws kai apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy, opws kai oloi oi ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs oytws h allws. Alla einai ypokrisia, gia allh mia fora ths N.D., poy mallon brhke twra ena tropo na ektonwnei tis antidraseis ths me to na zhtaei tis paraithseis ypoyrgwn, qa hqela pragmatika na mas ejhghsei h N. D., giati zhtaei thn paraithsh toy k. Papakwnstantinoy; Epeidh ebale ws stoxo thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias ycoys 50 dis mexri to 2015, otan kati antistoixo kai malista oxi me diafaneia, to eqete h N.D. gia ajiopoihsh h pwlhsh - den jerw pws to elege - 50 dis mesa se dyo xronia; Ti einai pio realistiko, pio nomimopoihmeno kai pio symferon gia ton ellhniko lao; Ta adiejoda ths, h N.D., as ta ektonwsei alloy. Ayth h kybernhsh einai ayth poy eswse kai swzei th xwra. Ayth h kybernhsh einai poy diaboyleyetai, poy paleyei pragmatika kaqe mera enanti mias kybernhshs poy mas efere to mnhmonio. Kai ayth poy to efere einai h N.D.. Ean qa prepei na apologoyntai akoma kai shmera kapoioi, ayth einai h protera kybernhsh ths N.D., ths opoias synexeia apodeiknyetai oti einai, dystyxws, kai h shmerinh N.D. Kai malista isws se aneyqynothta polles fores thn yperbainei.

XIDIROGLOY: Ejetazei h kybernhsh to endexomeno eklogwn;

PETALWTHS: Na epanalaboyme gia allh mia fora oti den yparxei kanenas logos eklogwn. Ayto poy kanoyme emeis einai na syntonizoyme kai na entatikopoioyme tis energeies mas etsi wste na jefygoyme apo tis poly megales oikonomikes dyskolies, tis opoies antimetwpizoyme edw kai 16 mhnes, me th megalyterh apofasistikothta. Kai fysika, thrwntas toys stoxoys mas den exoyme na fobhqoyme tipota. Ayto poy mas endiaferei einai na synexisoyme na kanoyme th doyleia poy kanoyme, bazontas akoma pio ychloteroys stoxoys, opws apodeiknyetai me ta 50 dis. Den yparxei kanenas logos na skeftomaste ekloges. Epanalambanw oti to senario peri eklogwn to kykloforei h N.D., akribws gia na perixarakwsei ta stelexh ths, toys boyleytes ths, ton kosmo ths. Giati elleicei opoiasdhpote stoixeiwdoys politikhs protashs qa prepei na efeyrei kapoio logo. Ki aytos o eykolos kai anwdynos logos, o opoios omws dhmioyrgei sygxysh akomh kai sthn idia th N.D., einai ta senaria peri prowrwn eklogwn.

TSAKIRHS: Hqela na sas rwthsw ean sas kalyptei h anakoinwsh poy ebgalan oi ekproswpoi ths troikas kai an alhqeyei oti skepteste na zhthsete akomh kai thn antikatastash toys.

PETALWTHS: Den einai qema kalychs. H anakoinwsh poy ejedwse h troika, alla kai oi synomilies poy eixan oi epikefalhs me ton Prwqypoyrgo, deixnei oti pragmatika antelhfqhsan oti yperebhsan kapoia oria, oti o rolos kai to ergo toys einai dedomeno, oti den yparxei kamia amfisbhthsh sto poios apofasizei gia sygkekrimena pragmata edw s' ayth th xwra. Dwsame na katalaboyn, gia allh mia fora, oti yparxei kyriarxh kybernhsh, oti o rolos ths troikas einai poly sygkekrimenos kai periorismenos. Einai na synergazetai me ta ypoyrgeia, na elegxei apo thn pleyra twn pistwtwn mas ean throyme toys stoxoys ths daneiakhs mas symbashs me toys daneistes mas. Ayto kai monon. Pera ap' ayto, tis politikes mas tis efarmozoyme emeis. Kai oxi aplws tis efarmozoyme. Tis sxediazoyme kai tis ylopoioyme mexri keraias. Emeis eimaste aytoi poy bgazoyme th xwra apo thn terastia krish sthn opoia mphkame aqwrakistoi. Emeis eimaste aytoi poy pairnoyme tis megales apofaseis. O Ellhnas poliths, o ellhnikos laos einai aytos poy yfistatai akomh kai poly epwdynes apofaseis, prokeimenoy na bgoyme ap' ayth thn krish. Synepws, oi roloi einai poly jekaqaroi.

TSAKIRHS: Antikatastash twn melwn ths troikas skepteste na zhthsete;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kanenas logos, den yparxei kamia tetoia skech. As mhn jexname oti oi ekproswpoi ths troikas einai ypallhloi twn forewn poy symmetexoyn sthn troika kai den exei shmasia poia einai ta proswpa. Shmasia exei poia taktikh akoloyqoyn kai ti fernoyn otan erxontai sth xwra mas.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ep' aytoy: Mhpws omws skepteste na diaforopoihsete kata ti to motibo twn trimhniaiwn elegxwn ths troikas kai thn synepakoloyqh synenteyjh Typoy, giati endexomenws na parathrhqoyn kai alla tetoia ``kroysmata'' kai sto mellon; Skepteste ayto to pragma na to allajete ligo, na mhn toys dinete th dynatothta, as poyme, na kanoyn synenteyjeis;

PETALWTHS: Sth xwra mas kaqenas einai eleyqeros na omilei.

MOYRELATOS: Me sygxwreite, alla egw den eipa ``na toys empodisete'', apla gia thn oikonomia ths politikhs ejelijhs.

PETALWTHS: Emeis, polles fores, sygkekrimena to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn eixe ypodeijei stoys ekproswpoys ths troikas na einai pio sygkrathmenoi, na mhn dinoyn synenteyjeis opoy staqoyn ki opoy breqoyn kai sth synenteyjh Typoy poy kanoyn na einai pio litoi, gia na mhn dhmioyrgoyntai paradojothtes apo sygkekrimenes fraseis toys. Epeidh akribws ayth th symperifora den thn akoloyqhsan, gi' ayto yphrje kai h entonh diamartyria.

Na jekaqarisoyme kapoia pragmata. To eixa pei kai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada - kai egw kai diaforoi ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs - to epanalambanw kai shmera: H troika qa prepei na apodaimonopoihqei. Prokeitai gia ekproswpoys-ypallhloys twn organismwn, twn forewn oi opoioi apoteloyn toys pistwtes mas mesa apo mia sygkekrimenh daneiakh symbash kai exoyn ypoxrewsh apenanti stoys foreis toys na kanoyn sygkekrimenoys trimhniaioys elegxoys. Aytoi omws oi elegxoi den exoyn kamia sxesh me th xarajh politikhs sth xwra mas. Gia pollosth fora tonizw oti ton sxediasmo kai thn ylopoihsh ths politikhs, thn kanoyme emeis ws ypeyqynh ellhnikh kybernhsh. Emeis eimaste nomimopoihmenoi na askoyme tetoio ergo kai kaneis allos. Poly perissotero h troika. Ef' oson h doyleia toys ginetai sto plaisio poy prepei na ginetai, xwris laikismoys - kai to ypogrammizw ayto - mporoyn na kanoyn th doyleia toys xwris, omws, na jepernoyn to metro.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela ena sxolio gia dyo dhmosieymata xqes se kyriakatikes efhmerides, an den kanw laqos htan sthn ``KAQHMERINH'' ths Kyriakhs kai sth  REAL NEWS , sxetika me mizes enos synergath toy 'Akh Tsoxatzopoyloy epi ypoyrgias toy gia thn promhqeia ypobryxiwn. Milame gia ena ekatommyrio mizes kai ws synergaths anaferetai o k. Mpeltsios, o opoios htan kai o arxitektonas ths olhs dosolhcias.

PETALWTHS: Ennoeitai oti, ws kybernhtikos ekproswpos, den mporw na kanw dhlwsh gia dhmosieymata poy den aforoyn sthn kybernhsh. Prokeitai gia synergath, symfwna me ta dhmosieymata, prwhn ypoyrgoy kai fysika isxyei - kai isxyei malista kai apodedeigmena, dioti emeis apodeiknyoyme th boylhsh mas gia diafaneia - to oti ``ola sto fws'' einai pleon dogma gia thn kybernhsh. Yparxei Dikaiosynh. H kybernhsh opoy mporei kai ypoxreoytai fysika na to kanei, dieykolynei th Dikaiosynh, etsi wste pragmatika na ginetai doyleia, gia na erxontai sto fws oles oi skies poy yparxoyn. Fysika kai den qa afhsoyme tipota en kryptw. Ayto einai dedomeno.

MPEQANH: Hqela na sas rwthsw, epeidh apeyqynate kai shmera prosklhsh gia eqnikh synennohsh, kata poson pisteyete oti telika h N.D. qa dwsei to paron s' ayto ton dialogo;

PETALWTHS: Emeis, thn prosklhsh thn apeyqynoyme, giati thn pisteyoyme sthn oysia. To oti, gia prwth fora, erxetai mia ellhnikh kybernhsh kai qetei stoxoys poy yperbainoyn thn qhteia ths ws kybernhsh, deixnei akribws kai pws leitoyrgoyme. Emeis apodeiknyoyme sthn prajh oti qeloyme na yparxei mia eqnikh synennohsh se epipedo politikwn dynamewn. Kaloyme oles tis politikes dynameis toy Koinoboylioy na elqoyn kai na syzhthsoyme panw se sygkekrimenoys stoxoys, etsi wste h Ellada, ws xwra, na stamathsei na poreyetai ws akybernhto karabi me poly braxyproqesmoys stoxoys -toys opoioys malista, stis perissoteres periptwseis, toys egkataleipame- kai na yparxei mia sygkekrimenh stoxeysh. Qetoyme, loipon, eqnikoys stoxoys, anejarthta apo to poia kybernhsh brisketai sthn ejoysia. Fysika, h ekastote kybernhsh exei thn apofasistikothta, exei ta ergaleia toy kratoys na diaxeirizetai tis ypoqeseis toy. Alla otan yparxei mia eqnikh stoxeysh, einai logiko kai epomeno na yparxei kai mia kalyterh poreia ths xwras. Osoi pisteyoyn s' ayto kai bgazoyn ap' ejw ta mikrokommatika toys symferonta, afhnoyn ap' ejw tis opoies politikes proseggiseis toys poy einai kai qemites kai epiqymhtes, nomizw oti deixnoyn thn ypeyqynothta toys. Alla na bgainoyn kommata kai na aporriptoyn syllhbdhn thn eqnikh synennohsh panw se stoxoys poy toys kaloyme na syndiamorfwsoyme, tote pragmatika fainetai poios einai ypeyqynos kai poios aneyqynos. Kai na jekaqarisw oti ayth thn prosklhsh den thn apeyqynoyme oyte gia prosxhmatikoys logoys, oyte ws profash opws mas kathgoroyn. Pisteyoyme oti h xwra mas qa prepei epiteloys na apokthsei eqnikoys stoxoys. Gi' ayto ekponoyme ena makroproqesmo programma mexri to 2015, gia to opoio omws oloi qa prepei na kaqisoyme se ena trapezi kai na synennohqoyme pws qa poreyqoyme gia meta to 2013.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie ypoyrge, shmera to prwi o Germanos ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn se dhlwseis toy shmeiwse oti den xreiazetai, ayth th stigmh toylaxiston, tonwsh to Eyrwpaiko Tameio Xrhmatopistwtikhs Sthrijhs. Hqela na rwthsw tis qeseis me tis opoies phgainei o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn k. Papakwnstantinoy shmera sto Eurogroup kai to Ecofin, ta opoia einai kai prokrima ths eyrwpaikhs synodoy.

PETALWTHS: Emeis safws kai qeloyme na yparxei enas monimos mhxanismos xrhmatodothshs kai staqerothtas gia tis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Emas, ws xwra, einai liga ayta poy mas endiaferoyn - einai alhqeia - ap' ayto ton organismo. Dioti, hdh, exoyme parei tis perissoteres, se syntriptikh pleiochfia, apofaseis poy qa klhqoyn na paroyn alles xwres. Hdh, emeis briskomaste se ena daneiako programma me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, me thn Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza kai to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio ws pros th xrhmatodothsh mas, gia na jeperasoyme tis daneiakes mas anagkes kai na anasanoyme. Omws, safws, mas endiaferei na yparxei enas monimos mhxanismos staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Enas mhxanismos xrhmatodothshs gia tis xwres poy qa breqoyn se analogh me mas anagkh. Giati einai kai pros to eqniko symferon mas enas tetoios mhxanismos na bohqa oles tis xwres, gia na phgainoyn kai ta dika mas pragmata kala. Apo ekei kai pera, einai qema enisxyshs ths eyrwpaikhs oloklhrwshs, einai qema enisxyshs ths koinotikhs allhleggyhs, enisxyshs, telos, toy idioy toy eyrwpaikoy nomismatos toy eyrw. Kai qewroyme oti einai pros to symferon olwn twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs na yparxoyn tetoioi mhxanismoi, wste pragmatika na pragmatwnetai ayto poy kata ta alla onomazoyme ``eyrwpaikh allhleggyh''.

TSAKIRHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw epanerxomenos sto qema toy stoxoy gia ta 50 dis: Qa hqela loipon na rwthsw ean qewreite aneyqyno kai ton k. Reppa, o opoios xqes milwntas sthn kratikh Thleorash eipe oysiastika oti ayto me ta 50 dis einai ayqaireto kai mporei na epiteyxqei, isws, to 2025.

PETALWTHS: To na sxoliasw ton k. Reppa, nomizw oti parelkei. Giati to ergo poy epitelei o k. Reppas - kai twra kai sthn antipoliteysh otan hmastan, alla poly perissotero, ayth th stigmh, exontas to sygkekrimeno xartofylakio ws ypoyrgos - einai shmantikotato kai ws ek toytoy h poly qetikh symbolh toy sthn apotelesmatikothta toy en genei kybernhtikoy ergoy einai aytonohth. Ayto poy epanalambanw einai oti ta 50 dis eyrw, ws apotelesma ajiopoihshs ths dhmosias perioysias, einai enas stoxos, stoxos endeiktikos. Einai omws kai realistikos, ypo thn ennoia oti deixnei thn kateyqynsh poy exoyme pleon kai dinoyme ws kybernhsh. Oti dhladh bazoyme stoxoys megaloys, anebazoyme ton phxy, giati akribws h thrhsh toy programmatos, h thrhsh twn stoxwn mas einai aparegklith. Kai epeidh akribws petyxainoyme toys stoxoys mas, apodeiknyoyme kaqe mera oti mporoyme na kanoyme perissotera. Epiprosqetws, apodeiknyetai kai h anagkh poy yparxei gia ajiopoihsh ayths ths perioysias toy Dhmosioy, h opoia, dystyxws, paramenei anajiopoihth apo katabolhs toy ellhnikoy kratoys.

TSAKIRHS: Dhladh, qewreite oti den jerei ti leei o k. Reppas, otan miloyse gia 25 xronia...

PETALWTHS: To na sxoliazoyme apospasmatikes dhlwseis, lejeis kai fraseis ypoyrgwn kai politikwn, nomizw oti den bohqa kanenan. Einai gnwsto to ti einai kaqenas. Synepws, den xreiazetai oyte na epainesoyme kanenan, oyte na poyme gia kanenan tipota. Ayto poy mas endiaferei einai h oysia. Kai h oysia einai ayth poy sas lew. O k. Reppas einai apo toys prwtoys poy dinoyn, logw toy xartofylakioy toy, enan terastio agwna gia th swthria ths xwras mas. Einai o prwtos poy symmetexei se olh ayth thn prospaqeia poy kanoyme gia thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias. Ws ek toytoy, den xrhzoyn peraiterw sxoliasmoy apospasmatikes dhlwseis, oi opoies adikoyn kai ton idio, alla kai th synolikh qewrhsh toy gia thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias.

MALTEZOY: Eipate oti einai stoxos ``realistikos'', o stoxos twn 50 dis gia thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias. Mporeite na mas dwsete perissoteres leptomereies gia to programma ayto; Ti qa ajiopoihqei; Pote; 'Ws pote, klp;

PETALWTHS: Pragmati, ton xarakthrismo ton exw epanalabei pleistakis: ``Endeiktikos'', alla kai ``realistikos'' sygxronws, poy deixnei thn kateyqynsh. Mia kateyqynsh gia to pws mporei na ginei h ajiopoihsh kai kyriws mesa apo qesmoys, giati ayto einai to shmantiko. Sas parapempw sthn apofash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs Apokratikopoihsewn toy Dekembrioy toy 2010, opoy qesmoqetoyntai sygkekrimena organa, sygkekrimena ergaleia toy ellhnikoy kratoys, mesw twn opoiwn qa katastei dynath h epiteyjh toy stoxoy me ton kalytero tropo, episthmoniko kai ajiopisto. Pragmati, ean qesoyme oloys toys stoxoys poy exoyme pros ylopoihsh mexri to 2015, tote oi stoxoi aytoi, me th meqodikothta poy mas diakrinei, qa apodeixqei oti einai efiktoi.

TSAKIRHS: Me aformh kai ton jylodarmo poy eixame toy gnwstoy hqopoioy toy k. Maina sto kentro ths Aqhnas apo metanastes, skopeyete telika na kanete kati gia to kentro ths Aqhnas, wste na katastei asfales gia toys katoikoys;

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh, edw kai megalo xroniko diasthma, ergazetai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Akomh kai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada pragmatopoihqhke diypoyrgikh syskech - synexeia allwn analogwn syskecewn - opoy lambanontai apofaseis kai sxediazetai to pws mporei to kentro ths Aqhnas, epiteloys, na apokthsei thn ajia kai ton xarakthra poy exei. Ayto, omws, den exei na kanei me ton jylodarmo enos poly gnwstoy kai kaloy hqopoioy, o opoios proebh kai se analoges dhlwseis. To na milame apospasmatika gia kapoia peristatika, ayto, pragmatika den dinei to nohma ekeino poy exei na kanei me thn oysia toy qematos. Einai to ti kanoyme emeis, etsi wste to kentro ths Aqhnas na doqei kai pali pros xrhsh twn politwn kai oswn katoikoyn sthn Aqhna. Dystyxws, perasan para polla xronia xwris na exei ginei apolytws tipota. Kai ayth h katastash dhmioyrghqhke giati akribws yphrxe h terastia adraneia ths Politeias. Fysika, h N.D., opws se oloys toys tomeis, edeije pragmatika poso adranhs htan kai se o,ti afora sthn poiothta zwhs twn politwn. Twra, gia prwth fora, ginetai ayth h poly megalh prospaqeia, wste to istoriko kentro ths Aqhnas na doqei kai pali stoys katoikoys ths Aqhnas me sygkekrimena kinhtra kai me sygkekrimenes apofaseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

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