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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 16 Noembrioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 299915063

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 16 Noembrioy 2010

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

O Prwqypoyrgos kai Proedros ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys, Giwrgos Papandreoy, anoije xqes, tis ergasies toy Symboylioy twn Sosialistwn.

H Ellada exei brei kai pali th fwnh ths sto dieqnes sterewma, meta thn ejaeth plhrh apoxh ths. Briskomaste kai pali isotima sto epikentro twn eyrwpaikwn syzhthsewn, sthn kardia twn diadikasiwn lhchs twn apofasewn.

Exoyme kai pali apoch wrimh, realistikh, proodeytikh kai eyrwpaika ypeyqynh, thn opoia kataqetoyme ekei poy prepei, briskontas sobarh apodoxh.

H Ellada, me Prwqypoyrgo ton Giwrgo Papandreoy, den akoloyqei tis ejelijeis, den krybetai perimenontas moirolatrika. Brisketai mprosta apo tis ejelijeis, tis dromologei, kataqetei protaseis gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs.

Sygkekrimena, o Prwqypoyrgos Giwrgos Papandreoy, xqes, epanelabe thn protash toy kai protash twn sosialistwn, gia th forologhsh twn xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn, poy qa mporoyse na apoferei mexri kai 400 dis eyrw esoda, se pagkosmio epipedo h 200 ekatommyria eyrw se paneyrwpaiko. Xrhmata, poy qa mporoysan na xrhsimopoihqoyn gia thn anaptyjh, gia tis prasines ependyseis, alla kai gia th xrhmatodothsh enos mhxanismoy sthrijhs.

Ena mhxanismo sthrijhs gia ton opoio emeis, eji mhnes prin toys alloys, palecame kai prwtagwnisthsame sth dhmioyrgia toy, wste na dra kai bohqhtika, se osoys ton xreiastoyn, alla kai apotreptika pros tis dieqneis agores. Me th dieqnh kinhtikothta, thn apofasistikothta, thn ajiopistia mas poy anaktoyme kai to sxedio gia thn Eyrwph kai toys polites ths, poy kataqetoyme, isxyropoioyme thn Ellada kai kataktoyme to sebasmo olwn, ginomaste emeis oi prwtagwnistes kai fernoyme sto proskhnio tis prospaqeies twn Ellhnwn na allajoyn rizika th xwra, kerdizontas synama kai th dieqnh anagnwrish.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PITTARAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw, an mporeite, mia kaqarh apanthsh: Se sxesh me ayto poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos, o opoios proteine epimhkynsh toy xronoy apoplhrwmhs toy daneioy poy exoyme parei apo thn troika, an ayto shmainei kai paratash toy mnhmonioy.

PETALWTHS: Den syzhtame gia paratash toy mnhmonioy. To exoyme pei para polles fores. To mnhmonio anaferei tis symbatikes mas ypoxrewseis, anaferei kai megales allages, tis opoies qelame na kanoyme, oytws h allws. Apo ekei kai pera, den syzhtame gia paratash toy mnhmonioy. Einai diaforetiko na syzhtame gia epimhkynsh apoplhrwmhs twn daneiwn mas kai diaforetiko na syzhtame gia neo mnhmonio h gia paratash aytoy toy mnhmonioy.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Shmera, o ekproswpos toy S.E.B k. Daskalopoylos, ekane kapoies protaseis kai kapoies epikriseis pros thn kybernhsh, oti kaqysterei na efarmosei to mnhmonio, den exei balei proteraiothtes, me apotelesma na mhn proxwrane oi megales diarqrwtikes allages. Ti toy apantate;

PETALWTHS: O Syndesmos Ellhnwn Biomhxanwn einai enas koinwnikos etairos, opws polloi alloi. Exei tis dikes toy apoceis kai protaseis. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, h kybernhsh exei enan kyriarxo, syntagmatika katoxyrwmeno rolo, akoyei toys pantes kai h kybernhsh einai ayth h opoia krinei pws poreyetai sthn anaptyjh, sthn oikonomia ths xwras. Eimaste ayth h kybernhsh, h opoia phre, polles fores, poly dyskoles, poly epwdynes apofaseis gia ton idio to lao. Eimaste ayth h kybernhsh poy apetrece th xreokopia ths xwras, apetrece polloys kindynoys, kaqoti briskomastan sto xeilos ths xreokopias. Thrwntas aparegklita toys stoxoys mas, qa bgoyme apo thn krish kai mexri tote, prospaqoyme na broyme opoiodhpote tropo, etsi wste kai me sigoyria na fygoyme apo thn krish, alla kai na ejisorropoyme ta apolesqenta eisodhmata twn Ellhnwn politwn. Kai ayto to kanoyme me plhrh ypeyqynothta.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Akoyte toys koinwnikoys etairoys kai ton S.E.B. kai sto qema twn apolysewn; Giati o k. Daskalopoylos eipe oti blepei ``krokodeilia dakrya'' gia tis apolyseis poy ginontai ston idiwtiko tomea kai syzhtoyn oloi gia oloys aytoys poy einai sto dhmosio tomea.

PETALWTHS: Epanalambanw oti o k. Daskalopoylos ekfrazei tis apoceis toy Syndesmoy toy opoioy einai proedros. H kybernhsh exei tis dikes ths apoceis, exei xarajei th dikh ths poreia, to diko ths programmatismo. Kai ap` oso mporoyme na krinoyme mexri twra, edw kai ena xrono, apofeygontas ta para poly dyskola gia th xwra mas, fainetai oti mporoyme na xarajoyme to mellon kai thn poreia ths xwras gia apo edw kai pera.

MOSXOBAS: An katalaba kala - kai hqela na moy to epibebaiwsete h na moy to diaceysete- apo th syzhthsh poy eixe xqes o k. Papandreoy me toys dhmosiografoys sto Parisi, h kybernhsh protiqetai na - einai mallon se diapragmateysh me thn troika- epimhkynei, na metaqesei sta epomena dyo xronia, tis epiptwseis toy anaqewrhmenoy pros ta epanw elleimmatos. Einai etsi;

PETALWTHS: Emeis exoyme mia genikh arxh, thn opoia epanalambanw: Throyme aparegklita toys stoxoys. Prospaqoyme na broyme tropoys kai enas tropos einai h epimhkynsh ths apoplhrwmhs twn daneiwn. Ayto, omws, apaitei tis katallhles proypoqeseis, apaitei staqeropoihsh ths oikonomias. Aparaithth proypoqesh gia na zhthsoyme kati tetoio einai na exoyme staqerh poreia ths xwras kai na to apodeiknyoyme. Kai fysika den yparxei kamia epishmh syzhthsh, den yparxei kanena epishmo aithma ths xwras mas. Einai mia syzhthsh, thn opoia prospaqoyme na akoloyqhsoyme, me monadiko gnwmona, to dhmosio symferon.

MOSXOBAS: Den lew gia epimhkynsh ths apoplhrwmhs. Lew ta nea dedomena poy efere h anaqewrhsh pros ta panw, sto 15,4%, apo th Eurostat. Emeis exoyme dyo epiloges: H na meinoyme sth sklhrh grammh toy mnhmonioy, h na metaqesoyme - kati to opoio den einai eyqynh ths kybernhshs, opws o Prwqypoyrgos eipe xqes- to anaqewrhmeno pros ta panw elleimma, tis epiptwseis toy kai oti epipleon epibarynsh prokyptei apo ekei, sta epomena dyo xronia. Egw ayto rwtw. Den lew gia epimhkynsh apoplhrwmhs.

PETALWTHS: Emeis ayto poy kanoyme, einai na throyme toys stoxoys mas, etsi opws exoyn teqei. Ean yparjei qema katabolhs me doseis, perissoteres doseis, twn ypoxrewsewn mas, qa yparxei kai sygkekrimeno aithma, qa yparxei kai sygkekrimenh apofash.

MOSXOBAS: Apo poion qa yparjei to aithma; Apo emas den qa yparjei;

PETALWTHS: Nai. Pros to paron den yparxei.

TSAKIRHS: Hqela na sas zhthsw na krinete tis dhlwseis ths k. Merkel, h opoia oysiastika eipe oti mphkame xatirika sto eyrw kai oti den eprepe pote na ginei ayto, oti htan mia politikh symfwnia me ton k. Srenter.

PETALWTHS: Apanthse o idios o Prwqypoyrgos, o Giwrgos Papandreoy, apo to bhma ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys, apenanti stis aitiaseis ths k. Merkel. Einai kati to opoio exei kriqei kai fysika den xreiazetai na sxoliasw kai na apanthsw egw shmera.

ZOYLAS: Qelw na epanalabw ligo to erwthma toy k. Mosxoba, giati den katalaba thn apanthsh sas. Oi stoxoi exoyn allajei -ek twn pragmatwn dedomeno oti to elleimma einai 15,4%- einai alloi stoxoi. Aytoi oi stoxoi qa epiteyxqoyn entos toy prosexoys etoys h qa epixeirhsete na toys - an qelete- epimhkynete sthn prosexh trietia; Th nea meiwsh, dhladh, toy elleimmatos, poy apaiteitai, qa thn epityxoyme sto epomeno etos h sta prosexh tria xronia;

PETALWTHS: Apanthsa ston k. Mosxoba oti den yparxei akomh kapoia apofash apo thn kybernhsh, na zhthsei diaforetikh antimetwpish.

KOYTRAS: To nomosxedio gia ta ergasiaka, qa perilambanei ayto poy perigrafei to mnhmonio h qa yparxoyn kapoies diafores;

PETALWTHS: Poy qa katateqei;

KOYTRAS: Nai.

PETALWTHS: Qa apodeiknyetai ti perilambanei, otan katateqei, me th gnwsth diadikasia kai fysika me th diaboyleysh poy qa yparxei se ola ta epipeda.

SIDERHS: Ti nohma exei ayth h protash toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy, th stigmh poy ayth h protash einai o perifhmos foros TOMPIN, elkei thn katagwgh toy apo ta xronia toy `80, thn efere sthn ellhnikh politikh zwh o N. Kwnstantopoylos me epaneilhmmenes protaseis toy kai pleon den thn akoyei kaneis kai exei meinei sto rafi;

PETALWTHS: Gia poia protash milate;

SIDERHS: Gia th forologhsh twn xrhmatisthriakwn synallagwn.

PETALWTHS: Einai mia sobarh protash ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys. Malista, poly paragwgikh kai gia tis idies tis xwres. Alla kyriws se ayth thn periodo qa mporoyse me ayta ta xrhmata ta opoia qa ejoikonomhqoyn, na xrhmatodothqei kai ena tameio to opoio qa sthrizei tis xwres oi opoies antimetwpizoyn problhma dhmosionomikhs yfhs.

SPANOY: An h k. Merkel epimeinei sthn protash ths gia thn anagkastikh anadiarqrwsh xreoys h alliws ``elegxomenh xreokopia kratwn-melwn'', ti qa kanei o k. Papandreoy; Qa askhsei beto sthn prosexh Synodo Koryfhs;

PETALWTHS: H ellhnikh pleyra, me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo, exei ekfrastei me ton pleon kathgorhmatiko tropo. Den syzhtame gia anadiarqrwsh toy xreoys. Exoyme dikes mas protaseis, protaseis oi opoies bghkan, dystyxws, mesa apo th dikh mas empeiria. Giati den eimaste aploi parathrhtes kai qewrhtikoi analytes mesa sto eyrwpaiko gignesqai. Eimaste oi prwtoi oi opoioi yfistameqa akomh tis synepeies mias krishs thn opoia pername. Synepws, exoyme kai ayjhmenh eyqynh kai apenanti sth xwra mas, alla kai apenanti stis xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs poy tyxon antimetwpizoyn problhma. Exoyme qesh, apoch kai apodeiknyetai oti einai kai isxyrh.

STRATAKHS: Hqela na rwthsw prwton, ean h kybernhsh protiqetai na egeirei kapoies enstaseis gia ton ypologismo toy elleimmatos apo thn Eurostat kai deyteron, ean zhthsei apo thn Eyrwpaikh 'Enwsh na yparjei sygkekrimenos tropos katagrafhs twn dapanwn ap oloys. Na einai isotimos gia ola ta krath.

PETALWTHS: Den exw antilhfqei kati tetoio. Isa-isa einai h prwth fora poy ta stoixeia ta opoia didontai gia thn Ellada den perilambanoyn asteriskoys. Den nomizw oti yparxei gia kanenan amfisbhthsh, ws pros ta stoixeia, ta opoia exei dhmosiopoihsei h Eurostat. Na ypenqymisoyme, bebaia, oti akribws ayth th mh antikeimenikh katagrafh twn stoixeiwn plhrwsame me thn anajiopistia mas kai th dieqnh antimetwpish ths xwras mas, opws gnwrizoyme, sto prohgoymeno diasthma. Synepws, twra poy exoyme ena antikeimeniko systhma katagrafhs, nomizw oti toylaxiston ayto to zhthma den tiqetai apo kanenan kai h ajiopistia ths xwras mas exei brei jana th dynamh kai to megeqos to opoio eprepe na exei.

LASKARATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mporeite na ginete pio sygkekrimenos, sxetika me to ti ennoei h ellhnikh pleyra otan leei epimhkynsh toy xronoy apoplhrwmhs; Poso xrono qa hqele h ellhnikh pleyra;

PETALWTHS: Epanalambanw oti einai mia syzhthsh h opoia ginetai. Den yparxei akomh epishmo aithma. Synepws, o,ti kai na poyme qa einai qewrhtiko.

LASKARATOS: Mia syzhthsh panw se kapoies anagkes poy exete kai seis entopisei, fantazomai. Ara, qa exete kai kapoio xroniko diasthma sto myalo sas.

PETALWTHS: Ayth th stigmh den mporw na anaferw kati ep` aytoy, giati den yparxoyn dhmosiopoihmena stoixeia ayths ths syzhthshs. Ean yparjei epishmh syzhthsh ennoeitai oti qa dhmosiopoihqei.

ZOYLAS: Mexri protinos to oikonomiko epiteleio elege oti proqesh ths kybernhshs einai na bgei stis agores toy 2011. Isxyei ayth h proqesh;

PETALWTHS: Proqesh mas einai na bgoyme to syntomotero dynaton. Fysika, yparxei ena reysto oikonomiko topio to opoio anakalyptoyme akomh kai shmera. Den einai tyxaio oti molis xqes dhmosiopoihqhke to akribes periexomeno toy megeqoys toy elleimmatos gia to 2009. Synepws, yparxei akomh reystothta, thn opoia oloi gnwrizoyme. Alla melhma mas kai merimna mas einai na bgoyme oso to dynaton syntomotero stis agores. Ayto fysika den ginetai aytomatws. Ennoeitai oti xreiazontai proypoqeseis. Aytes akribws tis proypoqeseis prospaqoyme na xtisoyme mesa apo mia sygkekrimenh staqerh oikonomikh poreia ths xwras.

ZOYLAS: Exoyn perasei dyo hmeres apo tis ekloges, epomenws, mporei kapoios pio cyxraima na dei ta apotelesmata. Prin apo ena xrono, to PASOK eixe kerdisei kai tis 13 Perifereies ths xwras.

PETALWTHS: Den eixame perifereiakes ekloges prin apo ena xrono.

ZOYLAS: Ennow apo pleyras chfwn, an aqroize kaneis tis chfoys ana perifereies. Ennow oti o xarths htan kataprasinos.

PETALWTHS: Se eqnikes ekloges.

ZOYLAS: Se eqnikes ekloges. Den mporei na diafwnhsei kaneis mazi sas s ayto.

PETALWTHS: Aytes tis hmeres diabazw kai akoyw diaforetikes kai perierges proseggiseis, mexri kai kata nomo paroysiash twn apotelesmatwn apo th N.D exoyme dei. Eyrhma to opoio pragmatika nomizw prepei na ekplhssei oloys mas. Gyrizoyme jana stis nomarxies, otan tis exoyme katarghsei.

ZOYLAS: Einai ypo katarghsh, mexri na katarghqoyn, mporei kapoios na tis epikalesqei. En pash periptwsei, stis perifereiakes ekloges poy perasan, to PASOK htthqhke se pente perifereies. Qelw na moy peite, ean to mhnyma ayto poy exoyn steilei oi polites, ayto twn pente perifereiwn, kata thn apoch sas einai mono sthn kateyqynsh ths epitaxynshs twn kybernhtikwn apofasewn, h mhpws to eklambanei h kybernhsh kai sthn kateyqynsh mias allhs oikonomikhs politikhs me piqanh akomh kai thn anadiapragmateysh kapoiwn orwn toy mnhmonioy.

PETALWTHS: Thn apotimhsh toy eklogikoy apotelesmatos thn ekane o idios o Prwqypoyrgos to brady twn eklogwn. Pisteyw oti einai koinh kai stoixeiwdhs logikh pleon oti to PASOK bghke enisxymeno ap aytes tis aytodioikhtikes ekloges. Dixws na panhgyrizoyme, dixws na komporrhmonoyme, xwris kanena ixnos alazoneias exei apodeixqei oti oi Ellhnes polites, toylaxiston ayth einai h qewrhsh toy PASOK, ekanan ejairetika shmantikes kai sofes epiloges. Twra, ean kaqisoyme na analysoyme poies perifereies den phrame, se poies perifereies yperisxyse h N.D. k.a., nomizw oti adikoyme to synolikotero mhnyma twn eklogwn. Ekeino to mhnyma to opoio exoyme parei emeis ap aytes tis ekloges, se diaforetiko epipedo thn kaqe Kyriakh, einai to mhnyma kai ths prwths kai ths deyterhs Kyriakhs. Emeis, akomh kai apo thn prwth Kyriakh, otan to megeqos ths epityxias twn syndyasmwn poy yposthrizotan apo to PASOK den eixe akomh diafanei, proekyce apo th deyterh Kyriakh, eixame pei oti ektimoyme apo synaqroish pollwn stoixeiwn oti yparxei nomimopoihsh ths politikhs toy PASOK apo toys polites. Yparxei ikanopoihsh. Ayto omws den shmainei oti qewroyme oti oi polites mas dinoyn leykh epitagh gia to otidhpote. Einai, omws, shmantiko gia mas oti exoyme ena mhnyma na synexisoyme: Thn poreia pros th swthria ths xwras, to jeperasma ths krishs kai tis poly megales allages poy hdh kanoyme kai poy qa prepei na kanoyme, ontws, akomh taxytera kai akomh pio apofasistika.

ZOYLAS: Epeidh me egkalesate prohgoymenws gia th sygklhsh...

PETALWTHS: Oxi, den sas egkalesa...

ZOYLAS: Eipate oti to PASOK bghke enisxymeno. Enisxymeno se sxesh me pote;

PETALWTHS: Qewrw oti sygkrinoyme anomoia pragmata ean sygkrinoyme pososto eqnikwn eklogwn me pososta dhmotikwn eklogwn h kai eyrweklogwn. Yparxoyn sygkekrimena stoixeia kai gnwrizoyme poly kala poia einai ayta ta stoixeia. Einai o Dhmos ths Aqhnas, o Dhmos Qessalonikhs, h Perifereia Attikhs. Einai oi prwties apo thn prwth Kyriakh sthn Krhth kai sto notio Aigaio. Einai h prwtia ston ariqmo twn perifereiwn poy phre to PASOK. Kai malista sthn pio dyskolh epoxh meta thn metapoliteysh. Pisteyw oti ayto shmainei gia oloys mas polla, xwris na panhgyrizoyme, epanalambanw, alla me mia aplh kai stoixeiwdh apotypwsh twn apotelesmatwn. Kati bebaiws poy den blepoyme apo th Nea Dhmokratia, h opoia pragmatika mas ekplhssei apo ton tropo poy ermhneyei kapoia zhthmata ta opoia einai aytonohta.

MARAQIAS: O Prwqypoyrgos aphyqyne prosklhsh symmetoxhs kai synaineshs kai malista prosqesate, xqes, eseis an den kanw laqos oti qa sthrixqei ayth panw s ena sygkekrimeno plaisio. 'Exoyme kati pio sygkekrimeno gi ayto to plaisio; Dhladh qa afora, as poyme, ton proypologismo gia to 2011, gia tis politikes ths kybernhshs gia tis DEKO; 'Exoyme kati parapanw ti afora ayto to sygkekrimeno plaisio poy qa teqei pros syzhthsh me toys politikoys arxhgoys;

PETALWTHS: Oxi, ayth th stigmh den exoyme tipota. Yparxei aplws ekfrasmenh h boylhsh kai h apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy na apeyqynqei stis politikes dynameis toy topoy mas prokeimenoy na yparjei synennohsh kai synainesh, panw se sygkekrimena zhthmata, etsi wste h xwra mas poy antimetwpizei ayth thn poly megalh krish kai s ayth thn krisimh kamph poy brisketai na mporei na antimetwpisei ta problhmata ths me mia kata to dynaton eyryterh eqnikh synennohsh.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Hqela na sas rwthsw ean to epityxhmeno egxeirhma - opws apodeixqhke- se Aqhna kai Qessalonikh me toys kyrioys Kaminh kai Mpoytarh an qa mporoyse na apotelesei odhgo kai gia synergasies se kybernhtiko epipedo.

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei anagkaiothta na syzhthsoyme gia synergasia se kybernhtiko epipedo. Apo ekei kai pera, makari, na yparxoyn ekeines oi proypoqeseis, etsi wste h synergasia, akomh kai se kybernhtiko epipedo na einai ena zhthma to opoio na einai aplo kai na mporoyn polles dynameis mazi na synergazontai, fysika, me sygkekrimena krithria kai pros ofelos toy dhmosioy symferontos. Yparxei, omws, mia isxyrh kybernhsh, h opoia ejelegh prin ena xrono kai epananomimopoihse thn politikh ths, prin apo dyo meres. Synepws, qemata kybernhtikhs synergasias den yparxoyn. Apodeixqhke, omws, s aytes tis aytodioikhtikes ekloges oti otan yparxoyn eyryteres synergasies, eidikotera twn proodeytikwn dynamewn toy topoy, mporoyme, pragmatika, na allazoyme katastaseis, oi opoies kapote eqewroynto pagiwmenes.

SIDERHS: Meta th shmerinh dia megafwnwn proseyxh twn synanqrwpwn mas moysoylmanwn, skeptetai h kybernhsh sto plaisio dieqnistikhs allhleggyhs kai diaqrhskeytikhs katanohshs na onomasei thn plateia Omonoias plateia Al Xalili;

PETALWTHS: H symmetoxh sta dhmotika symboylia einai eleyqerh gia toys polites, opote mporeite na pate na to proteinete. Einai qema dhmotikoy symboylioy.

SIDERHS: Plhrofories zhthsa. An alhqeyei.

ZOYLAS: Ep aytoy, mporei ta shmerina gegonota na epispeysoyn thn melloymenh apofash gia th dhmioyrgia enos tzamioy;

PETALWTHS: Ayta kaq ayta ta gegonota den nomizw oti mporoyn na epispeysoyn mia tetoia apofash. Alla einai gnwsto oti yparxei kai desmeysh kai nomoqethmenh apofash na dhmioyrghqei tzami sthn Aqhna, prokeimenoy na teloyn me apolyth asfaleia kai qrhskeytikh eleyqeria ta qrhskeytika toys kaqhkonta oi sympolites mas moysoylmanoi. Einai xreos ths Politeias, stis epoxes poy zoyme kai ston politismo ton opoio diakhryssoyme kai mas diepei, fysika, san ellhnikh koinwnia, na dieykolynoyme opoion qelei na askhsei ta qrhskeytika toy kaqhkonta. Yparxei mia kaqysterhsh edw kai para polla xronia. Fysika, qa prepei na lhfqei apofash ylopoihshs mias tetoias apofashs.

POLYMEROS: Yparxei periptwsh - skeptetai h kybernhsh- me to endexomeno ``typoy synallaghs'' me th Nea Dhmokratia, me thn Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh, giati o k. Kyriakos Mhtsotakhs, xqes to brady apo to MEGA, eipe oti ``prokeimenoy na synainesoyme, kalo qa htan na pesoyn oi tonoi kai h kybernhsh na mhn proxwrhsei sthn protash ths gia ejetastikh epitroph gia thn oikonomia''.

PETALWTHS: Exoyme pei polles fores oti milame gia synainesh, oti milame gia eqnikh synennohsh, omws, den qa dexqoyme symchfismoys. Ef oson h kybernhsh kai an apofasisei na proxwrhsei thn ejetastikh epitroph gia thn oikonomia, ayth qa proxwrhsei. Kai gnwrizoyn poly kala oi kyrioi ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs oti hdh yparxei katateqeimeno aithma ths kybernhshs pros systash ejetastikhs epitrophs gia ta parapoihmena stoixeia ths oikonomias.

MOYRELATOS: Eipate ``an apofasisei h kybernhsh na proxwrhsei''.

PETALWTHS: Brhkate kati apo thn apanthsh moy, kyrie Moyrelate;

MOYRELATOS: Oriste;

PETALWTHS: Sas edwsa kapoia labh apo thn apanthsh moy;

MOYRELATOS: Nai, nai. Eipate ``ean apofasisei h kybernhsh na synexisei''.

PETALWTHS: To ``ean'' einai xroniko-ypoqetiko.

MOYRELATOS: Profanws. Enexei kai thn ypoqesh mesa, dhladh.

PETALWTHS: Pantws, meta symplhrwsa, oti yparxei hdh katateqeimeno aithma ths kybernhshs gia systash ejetastikhs epitrophs gia thn oikonomia gia ta parapoihmena stoixeia ta opoia edine h N.D. kai mas efqasan s ayto to epipedo anajiopistias.

MOYRELATOS: Dhladh, den yparxei allagh pleyshs ws pros to sygkekrimeno zhthma;

PETALWTHS: Oxi.

STRATAKHS: Ayto to pneyma synennohshs, synaineshs, symfiliwshs, lete na ephreasei thn apocinh chfoforia gia to Batopedi;

PETALWTHS: Apo thn plhroforhsh poy exw, h N. D. qa apoxwrhsei gia allh mia fora. Oytws h allws, sthn ypoqesh toy Batopedioy, otidhpote yphrje, opoiadhpote prospaqeia diereynhshs eyqynwn kai an egine, h N.D., apo ton kairo poy htan akomh kybernhsh, anekaqen egkateleipe thn koinoboyleytikh aiqoysa, apoxwroyse kata pagia taktikh apo thn aiqoysa twn synedriasewn, exontas etsi prwtotyphsei pagkosmiws. Ws gnwston, emeis, ws kybernhsh, exoyme kataqesei to aithma mas kai shmera qa diejaxqei h syzhthsh gia th systash ths armodias epitrophs.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, gia to qema ths oikonomias, yparxoyn plhrofories apo to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn oti apo thn prwth hmera twn synanthsewn me thn troika, teqhke to qema gia th meiwsh twn dapanwn toy dhmosioy sto ypoyrgeio Ergasias kai sto ypoyrgeio Ygeias kata 2,5 dis kai oi ekproswpoi ths troikas den eqesan qema perikophs sta misqologia. Dexqhkan oti ta opoia xrhmata qa meiwqoyn apo ton periorismo ths spatalhs kai oxi apo perikopes misqwn. Mporeite na to epibebaiwsete h na to diaceysete ayto;

PETALWTHS: Den mporw oyte na epibebaiwsw, oyte na diaceysw. Ayto poy mporw na sas pw einai oti pagia qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs apotelei h mh perikoph misqwn kai syntajewn. Epanalambanw pws ayth einai h pagia qesh mas. Exoyme, allwste, pei polles fores oti apo ton ejorqologismo twn dapanwn kai ths leitoyrgias, akomh kai twn dhmosiwn organismwn, alla kai twn DEKO, qa mporesei na ginei ayth h ejoikonomhsh.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Epeidh yparxoyn diafora dhmosieymata, o Prwqypoyrgos skeptetai na energopoihsei to qema ths kybernhtikhs epitrophs, dhladh na systhsei kybernhtikh epitroph;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kamia tetoia skech. Ta diabazoyme se dhmosieymata synadelfwn sas.

MOSXOBAS: Epeidh ayrio, to exoyme jexasei, alla einai h epeteios toy Polytexneioy, exete sygkekrimeno epixeirhsiako sxedio gia na apofeyxqoyn epeisodia kyrie Ekproswpe;

PETALWTHS: H Ellhnikh Astynomia leitoyrgei me apotelesmatiko tropo, diasfalizontas to syntagmatika katoxyrwmeno dikaiwma toy synaqroizesqe kai fysika, diasfalizei th symmetoxh sth giorth timhs kai mnhmhs gia to Polytexneio.

LIONAKHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela ena sxolio, sxetika me thn ekdosh entokwn grammatiwn, h opoia se sxesh me ton prohgoymeno mhna, ton Oktwbrh egine me ychlotero epitokio. Deixnei kati gia thn ajiopistia ths xwras ayto;

PETALWTHS: Shmera, dienerghqhke dhmoprasia entokwn grammatiwn, diarkeias 13 ebdomadwn kai ycoys 300 ekatommyriwn eyrw. H apodosh diamorfwqhke sto 4,10%. Oi synolikes prosfores poy ypoblhqhkan yperkalycan to zhtoymeno poso, kata 4,98 fores. Dedomenwn twn synqhkwn kai ths anodoy twn spreads se olh thn Eyrwph, emeis dhlwnoyme oti eimaste ikanopoihmenoi.

MARAQIAS: Me toys politikoys arxhgoys poy skopeyei na synanthqei apo thn Kyriakh kai meta, o k. Papandreoy perilambanetai kai o k. Koybelhs kai h k. Ntora Mpakogiannh;

PETALWTHS: Pros to paron, ej oswn gnwrizw, h k. Ntora Mpakogiannh den einai arxhgos kommatos.

MARAQIAS: Thn Kyriakh qa exei, pantws.

PETALWTHS: Otan qa apeyqynei prosklhsh o Prwqypoyrgos qa ejeidikeytei kai se poioys qa thn apeyqynei.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma.

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