Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-06-14

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Deytera, 14 Ioynioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 272799072

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 14 Ioynioy 2010

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri kai kalh ebdomada.

Toys teleytaioys mhnes exoyme oloi, polites kai kybernhsh, ergastei sklhra gia na bgaloyme th xwra apo thn krish. H diaxeirish ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs kai h oikonomikh sygkyria poy eplhje thn eyalwth oikonomia ths xwras, mas eferan antimetwpoys me ton kako mas eayto toy parelqontos.

Klhqhkame na laboyme ejairetika dyskoles, epipones alla kai zwtikhs shmasias, krisimes gia to mellon ths xwras apofaseis. Den distasame stigmh na tis laboyme, achfwntas ayto poy paradosiaka onomazoyme ``politiko kostos'', mprosta stis proklhseis kai to dysmenes dieqnes periballon poy kaloymaste na antimetwpisoyme.

Anoigoyme krisima zhthmata, poy exoyn amesh epiptwsh sthn kaqhmerinothta toy polith kai antimetwpizoyme xronies paqogeneies poy h prohgoymenh kybernhsh eixe aplws ``krycei katw apo to xali''. Paqogeneies poy exoyn sxesh me to kratos, th dioikhsh, thn oikonomia.

Shmera, opws exei pei kai o Prwqypoyrgos, Giwrgos Papandreoy, eimaste se qesh basei stoixeiwn na mporoyme elafrws na aisiodojoyme. Gnwrizoyme oti to elleimma exei meiwqei kata 40%, se sxesh me to antistoixo perysino pentamhno, enw kai ta esoda paroysiazoyn shmantikh ayjhsh.

Eimaste mesa stoys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei.

Eimaste synepeis stis desmeyseis poy exoyme analabei.

Den mporoyme, omws, kai den prepei na stekomaste ekei. Ergazomaste kaqhmerina gia na xtisoyme ena kratos dikaioy poy sebetai kai prostateyei ton polith. Ena kratos poy empneei empistosynh kai asfaleia, ena kratos domhmeno se aploys kanones diafaneias kai dikaiosynhs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Pws eiste elafrws aisiodojoi kai pws meiwqhke to elleimma kyrie Ekproswpe, af` hs stigmhs den plhrwnete kan, den epistrefete to foro stis epixeirhseis kai afoy exoyn stamathsei oi dhmosies ependyseis; Den einai plasmatikh ayth h meiwsh toy elleimmatos;

PETALWTHS: Den einai plasmatikh giati, ayto poy lete oti den epistrefoyme to F.P.A. exei alles diastaseis, ap` o,ti exei anadeixqei. Emeis elegxoyme, dienergoyme toys elegxoys kai den yparxei kanena ``pagwma'' sto Foro Prostiqemenhs Ajias, ws pros thn epistrofh toy. Den mporoyme, omws, xwris elegxo, na epistrefetai o F.P.A., eidika se aytoys toys kairoys.

SIDERHS: Kai stis dhmosies ependyseis;

PETALWTHS: Oson afora tis dhmosies ependyseis, exoyme ena sygkekrimeno sxedio sthn oikonomikh mas politikh. Exoyme zygisei kai exoyme metrhsei oles tis parametroys kai basei aytoy toy sxedioy proxwrame.

PAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, oles oi kybernhseis, diaxronika, otan einai antipoliteysh kai toys rwtaei kaneis, apo poy qa breite ta lefta, to prwto poy lene, einai h patajh ths forodiafyghs. En toytois, ta esoda, opws kai eseis gnwrizete, ysteroyn. Eiste ikanopoihmenoi apo th mexri twra apodosh, ston tomea ayto ennow;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, yparxei ayjhsh twn esodwn kata 8% apo to antistoixo perysino diasthma kai fysika, yparxei kai mia prooptikh thn opoia dhmioyrgoyme, gnwrizontas malista kai to klima to opoio yparxei sthn agora. Se ekeino, omws, poy qa prepei na dwsoyme megalh barythta, einai to na dhmioyrghsoyme ekeinoys toys qesmoys kai ekeino to periballon, etsi wste na katalambanetai h forologhtea ylh, na diereynatai kai na apodidontai oi foroi, opws kai opote prepei na apodoqoyn. Kai to lew ayto sygkekrimena, giati ola ta ergaleia poy eixe sto xeri to kratos, se prohgoymena xronika diasthmata -kai anaferomai kata poly perissotero sthn prohgoymenh kybernhsh- htan anenerga. Eixan stamathsei na leitoyrgoyn oi foroeispraktikoi mhxanismoi. Yphrxe ena klima asydosias, etsi wste o poliths kai na mh dhlwnei ta forologika toy eisodhmata, alla kai na mhn elegxetai. Kai gi` ayto akribws to logo fqasame mexri edw. Enas apo toys logoys, einai aytos.

Emeis dhmioyrgoyme mhxanismoys poy elegxoyn ta eisodhmata, poy na eisprattoyn ta eisodhmata ta opoia diereynwntai prin. Kai ena poly shmantiko, epi th eykairia na sas anaferw, einai kai to ergo ths Genikhs Grammateias Plhroforiakwn Systhmatwn, poy apotelei mia asteireyth phgh plhroforiwn kai to pio shmantiko ergaleio, eidika gia tis diastayrwseis. Ola ayta ginontai efoson yparxei h boylhsh kai se ayth thn kybernhsh yparxei h boylhsh.

MIXAHL: Kai epeidh h wra ths alhqeias plhsiazei, apo shmera, loipon, einai edw to trimeles klimakio twn dieqnwn organismwn oi opoioi mas exoyn daneisei kai jekinoyn tis epafes toys me ta ypoyrgeia kai tis dhmosies yphresies. Ti elpizete na bgei apo ayto ton elegxo; Ti perimenete;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, to trimeles klimakio poy brisketai edw, ontws qa kanei tis epafes kai tis synergasies poy exei hdh dromologhsei, me skopo na syntajei mia endiamesh ekqesh gia to poy briskomaste kai an xreiazontai diorqwtikes kinhseis. Emeis exoyme na antitajoyme edw, exoyme na probaloyme oti eimaste synepeis stoys stoxoys mas kai se kapoies periptwseis eimaste kai panw apo toys stoxoys. Ara, pisteyoyme oti h ekqesh ayth qa einai ekqesh h opoia epibebaiwnei thn ylopoihsh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas, gia to opoio exoyme desmeytei.

MIXAHL: Kardia ayths ths prospaqeias, se ayth th fash, fainetai na einai to Asfalistiko. Qelw, loipon, na sas rwthsw, prwton: Ean ta osa grafontai kai legontai gyrw apo to Asfalistiko einai ayta sta opoia exete katalhjei stis diapragmateyseis me thn troika kai deyteron: Ean h kybernhsh qewrei oti einai diapragmateytiko oplo ths, oi antidraseis syndikatwn kai koinwnikwn forewn gia to Asfalistiko;

PETALWTHS: Emeis sto Asfalistiko kanoyme mia poly sobarh doyleia, mia doyleia h opoia exei na kanei, oxi aplws me th diaswsh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos, alla me thn edraiwsh enos asfalistikoy systhmatos, to opoio qa katoxyrwnei th syntajiodothsh twn parontwn kai twn mellontikwn genewn. Kai ayto htan to prwto melhma mas, giati ean den anoigame to Asfalistiko, den qa mporoysame na milame gia asfalistiko systhma apo edw kai pera. Stis 15 Ioynioy lhgei h proqesmia ypobolhs twn protasewn apo toys etairoys kai opoies allages ginoyn, qa ginoyn me proedrika diatagmata. Kai fysika, yparxoyn xronodiagrammata, etsi wste peripoy pros to telos Ioynioy na katateqei to neo asfalistiko nomosxedio, to opoio qa periexei kai oles tis peraiterw ryqmiseis. To deytero erwthma sas, fysika, den mporei na apanthqei.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den mporei na apanthqei dioti, an gia paradeigma, h troika blepei oti einai synexws sto dromo koinwnikoi foreis, h kybernhsh qa mporoyse, loipon, na pei pws oti mas zhtate mporei na to afaireite swsta, alla yparxei mia koinwnia apo katw poy den qa to dexqei. (Den akoygetai) h antistrofws na pei oti egw adiaforw kai to kanw. Den jerw pws qa to xeiristei. Ayto rwtaw.

PETALWTHS: H ypodeijh sas einai poly wraia kai qemith kai mporoyme na th laboyme ypoch.

SPANOY: Mia dieykrinish ep` aytoy: Otan lete oti oi allages qa ginoyn me proedrika diatagmata, ti akribws ennoeite; Qa einai, dhladh, ektos nomosxedioy;

PETALWTHS: An yparjoyn allages, se polla nomosxedia problepontai ryqmiseis poy prosdiorizontai me proedrika diatagmata. Sto asfalistiko nomosxedio, to opoio qa exoyme, qa exoyme oles tis ryqmiseis. Ean xreiastoyn kapoies allages, qa ginoyn me proedrika diatagmata.

PETOYRH: Eipate oti h troika qa kanei tis epafes ths kai qa syntajei mia ekqesh sthn opoia qa anaferei an xreiazontai diorqwtikes kinhseis. Eiste ikanopoihmenoi ws kybernhsh, opws eipate, apo ta esoda kai thn poreia toy elleimmatos, mporeite, loipon, na apokleisete to endexomeno prosqetwn metrwn;

PETALWTHS: Emeis, me bash toys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei, me bash tis apofaseis poy labame, blepoyme ayto to programma na ylopoieitai me ton kalytero tropo. Eimaste - epanalambanw- mesa stoys stoxoys mas. Eimaste synepeis stis desmeyseis poy exoyme analabei. Ara, den tiqetai skech kai syzhthsh gia nea metra.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Lete oti eiste mesa stoys stoxoys, alla to 8% den einai o stoxos poy balate gia thn ayjhsh twn esodwn. O stoxos einai, an qymamai kala, 14%. Ayto amesws dhmioyrgei mia ``trypa'' kapoiwn disekatommyriwn eyrw, isws. Pws loipon qa antimetwpistei ayth h trypa, an oxi me nea metra;

PETALWTHS: Exoyme pei oti se ayto to 8% den exoyn ypologistei sygkekrimenes parametroi, opws einai h ayjhsh toy F.P.A., to ETAK, oi meiwseis twn apodoxwn kai alles parametroi, poy otan synypologistoyn qa mas feroyn sto stoxo.

KOYTRAS: Dyo erwthseis qa hqela na sas kanw. H prwth afora ta nosokomeia kai an yioqetei h kybernhsh th fraseologia ths ypoyrgoy Ygeias, poy eipe oti oi promhqeytes ekbiazoyn gia olo ayto to xaos poy exei dhmioyrghqei sta nosokomeia, ta opoia einai pro ths katarreyshs. Kai to deytero poy qelw na sas rwthsw, einai anaforika me ton agwgo Mpoyrgkas-Alejandroypolh, ti ginetai. Na mas jekaqarisete poio einai to skhniko kai ti apantate sth Nea Dhmokratia, h opoia kalei ton Prwqypoyrgo sth Boylh na dwsei ejhghseis.

PETALWTHS: Oson afora sto prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas gia ta nosokomeia, einai mia katastash poy safws mas endiaferei. Einai mia katastash poy thn parakoloyqoyme kai thn antimetwpizoyme me ton pio prosforo dynato tropo. Einai gnwstes oi terasties ``mayres trypes'' poy yparxoyn sta nosokomeia, me tis sygkekrimenes yphresies poy parexontai, oi opoies fysika den einai kai oi kalyteres. Apo kei kai pera, emeis apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh brhkame ena terastio xreos pros toys promhqeytes, synolikoy ycoys 6,2 dis. eyrw, poy afora eidika stoys promhqeytes. Sta telh Dekembrioy apoxrewsame ta 1,2 dis. Kai exoyn apomeinei 5 dis. Opws einai logiko, zhthsame apo toys promhqeytes na ginei diakanonismos kai malista se kaqe diakanonismo yparxei kai mia ekptwsh peripoy 15% kai isws ligo parapanw. Ayth h ekptwsh htan logikh. Einai ekptwsh qemith kai malista, an synypologisei kaneis to basiko, oti dhladh tosa xronia ginotan ypertimologhsh twn ylikwn poy promhqeyontan ta nosokomeia kai mporoyme na poyme oti ginotan ena terastio parti sta nosokomeia kai sth dhmosia periqalch. Ara, emeis exoyme xreos na diasfalisoyme ta oikonomika toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy, diasfalizontas sygxronws kai thn paroxh ths dhmosias ygeias. Apo kei kai pera, kapoioi promhqeytes den symfwnoyn me ayto to diakanonismo kai antidroyn, eidika twra poy emeis eipame oti timologoyme jana kai ypo-timologoyme ta farmaka kai qeloyme na baloyme tajh stis promhqeies.

Apo kei kai pera, omws, kaqenas proaspizei ta symferonta toy. Emeis diasfalizoyme to dhmosio symferon. Ayto exoyme xreos na kanoyme. Den stamatame th syzhthsh me toys promhqeytes. Na sas enhmerwsw oti shmera, stis 4 h wra, yparxei mia synanthsh toy genikoy grammatea toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias kai toy genikoy grammatea toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn me toys promhqeytes, prokeimenoy na breqei mia lysh poy elpizoyme oti qa einai tetoia, etsi wste na synexisei h omalh roh twn ylikwn poy promhqeyontai ta nosokomeia. Einai xreos mas na ta kanoyme ola ayta. Gnwrizoyme ti symbainei me tis promhqeies. Gnwrizoyme kai tis oikonomikes ypoxrewseis poy exoyn oi promhqeytes kai elpizoyme oti qa lhjei syntoma olh ayth h diadikasia ths mh paroxhs ylikwn pros ta nosokomeia.

Oson afora ston agwgo Mpoyrgkas-Alejandroypolh, tis teleytaies hmeres exoyn dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas diafores dhlwseis kai apo th rwsikh, alla kai apo th boylgarikh pleyra. Emeis dhlwnoyme oti eimaste etoimoi. Qeloyme na leitoyrghsei ayto to ergo. Qewroyme oti einai ena ergo poy ejyphretei to dhmosio symferon kai eimaste, fysika, etoimoi na to leitoyrghsoyme, efoson bebaia breqei lysh me th Boylgaria kai th Rwsia.

POLYMEROS: Sas kathgorei, omws, h Nea Dhmokratia pws apo thn wra poy analabate th diakybernhsh ths xwras mexri shmera, ta nosokomeia katerreysan, meiwqhke to proswpiko, meiwqhke o ariqmos twn xeiroyrgikwn epembasewn. Malista, katalogizei kai proswpikes eyqynes ston Prwqypoyrgo, kaqws leei oti h ethsia prognwsh proypologismoy gia to elleimma twn nosokomeiwn htan 800.000.000 eyrw kai exoyme fqasei sto 1 dis. Ti apantate sth Nea Dhmokratia;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, h Nea Dhmokratia mas klhrodothse ena xreos 6,2 dis eyrw. Ayto to xreos pros toys promhqeytes einai akribws ayto poy plhrwnei shmera o ellhnikos laos me ta problhmata poy paroysiazontai sta nosokomeia. Qa eprepe na einai pio feidwlh sto na memfetai thn kybernhsh kai na milaei gia diaxeirish twn nosokomeiwn.

Ws pros to proswpiko, einai apo tis elaxistes ejaireseis toy dhmosioy tomea poy exoyn ejaireqei apo thn anastolh twn proslhcewn. Den qa afhsoyme ta nosokomeia xwris proswpiko kai prospaqoyme mesa sta poly stena oria ths shmerinhs oikonomias na exoyme thn ygeia se proteraiothta, epeidh einai to prwtisto agaqo. Emeis prospaqoyme akribws na qerapeysoyme kai tis xronies paqogeneies alla kai thn aparadekth kai egklhmatikh diaxeirish toy systhmatos ygeias apo th Nea Dhmokratia.

SEGKOS: Gia na epanelqw ligo sta nosokomeia. An oi elegktes ths troika zhthsoyn nees perikopes kai sta nosokomeia, qa thrhsete ta symfwnhqenta kai tis desmeyseis sas, opws exete pei kat` epanalhch;

PETALWTHS: Perikopes poy exoyn amesh sxesh me thn ygeia toy ellhnikoy laoy, emeis den prokeitai na dexqoyme. Alla, epeidh gnwrizoyme oti to qema den einai na perikocoyme dapanes apo th dhmosia ygeia, to qema einai na ejorqologhsoyme th dhmosia ygeia kai na stamathsoyme ayto to ¨parti¨ poy ginotan sto ESY. Kai emeis to stamatame me tis energeies mas shmera. Kai ayto, einai qema koinhs logikhs. Yparxoyn stoixeia poy apodeiknyoyn oti yphrxe mia terastia spatalh. Yparxoyn stoixeia poy fainetai oti prospaqoyme na kanoyme ejoikonomhsh sthn paroxh yphresiwn kai me kalytero apotelesma. Ara, den pisteyoyme oti qa teqei tetoio zhthma apo kanenan.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia tis eikones ntrophs poy eidame mesa sto Sabbatokyriako sth gefyra toy plwtoy moyseioy Aberwf.

PETALWTHS: To Geniko Epiteleio Naytikoy exei ekdwsei shmera sxetikh anakoinwsh, sthn opoia anaferei oti eixe enhmerwqei oti prokeitai na pragmatopoihqei ekdhlwsh gia thn oloklhrwsh twn ``Poseidwniwn 2010'', th diorganwsh ths opoias eixe analabei naytiliakh etaireia kai gi` ayto doqhke h adeia diorganwshs gia th sygkekrimenh ekdhlwsh. Sto plaisio ths ereynas poy diejagei to Geniko Epiteleio Naytikoy, hdh exoyn zhthqei apo toys armodioys na doqoyn eggrafes ejhghseis. Fysika exei endiaferqei kai h politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Parola ayta, omws, prin oloklhrwqei h ereyna, h kalyterh ereyna einai oi fwtografies, ta ntokoymenta, ta opoia deixnoyn ti akribws egine. Dhladh, den proypoqetei ayto to pragma toylaxiston mia eyqijia apo toys kaq` ylhn armodioys wste na paraithqoyn;

PETALWTHS: Gia na paraithqei kapoios h na zhthqei h paraithsh toy qa prepei na yparxoyn stoixeia. Kai fysika kaneis den amfisbhtei ta stoixeia poy eipate. Alla h ereyna einai se diadikasia kai poly syntoma qa yparxoyn kai apofaseis ep` ayths.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Ektos apo tis elleiceis poy eidame gia ta nosokomeia se epipedo toy ylikoy, yparxoyn kai xiliades aplhrwtes yperwries twn giatrwn. Qa kanei kati me ayto h kybernhsh;

PETALWTHS: Hdh h kybernhsh kai h ypoyrgos Ygeias asxoloyntai me thn katabolh twn efhmeriwn, oi opoies ekkremoyn edw kai polla xronia. Einai xreh poy yparxoyn. Einai antilhpto oti oi shmerines dyskoles katastaseis antimetwpizontai me to deonta tropo kai fysika mesa sto plaisio twn dynatothtwn ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Pantws, anagnwrizoyme oti aytes oi efhmeries qa prepei na plhrwqoyn kai hdh arxisan na kataballontai.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Eipate, prin, oti qa yparjoyn proedrika diatagmata, ta opoia qa erqoyn na symplhrwsoyn to yparxon nomosxedio gia to Asfalistiko. Ayta ta proedrika diatagmata qa einai apotelesma toy dialogoy poy qa ginei me thn troika;

PETALWTHS: Ta proedrika diatagmata, an yparjoyn, qa einai pros symplhrwsh toy asfalistikoy nomosxedioy opoy apaiteitai, symfwna me to nomo, proedriko diatagma. Ta symfwnhqenta kai ayta poy qa periexontai sto asfalistiko nomosxedio qa einai safh apo th prwth stigmh.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Qa exoyn na kanoyn, omws, se sxesh me thn troika, me tis diaboyleyseis poy qa ginoyn ayto to diasthma me ton ypoyrgo Ergasias;

PETALWTHS: To asfalistiko nomosxedio akoloyqei mia diadikasia. Apo th diaboyleysh mexri th chfish toy, thn ylopoihsh toy. Ola osa periexontai se ayth th diadikasia, qa emperiexontai kai se opoiadhpote nomoqetikh ryqmish.

SIDERHS: Ep' aytoy. Ti nohma exei to nomosxedio, afoy ``karadokoyn'' ta proedrika diatagmata kai gia na mhn sas katalogisoyme oti to kanete ek toy ponhroy, me thn ennoia na balete kapoioys pio malakoys oroys sto nomosxedio kai meta na erqei to proedriko diatagma.

PETALWTHS: Ayto den ginetai nomika kai gia ayto den mporeite na mas kathgorhsete. Yparxei sygkekrimenh diadikasia kai den mporoyme na leme alla sto nomosxedio kai alla sta proedrika diatagmata. To Asfalistiko einai ena toso synqeto zhthma, sto opoio otidhpote prospaqei na prosteqei h na yponohqei den exei nohma.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Sas ikanopoiei h apanthsh poy edwse o neos epikefalhs ths Siemens sthn epistolh toy ston ypoyrgo Epikrateias sxetika me to qema twn ``mayrwn'' tameiwn ths Siemens; Kai an pisteyete oti qa doqoyn nea stoixeia poy qa bohqhsoyn to ergo ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs.

PETALWTHS: Emeis, opws eixame ypoxrewsh, zhthsame apo th Siemens - mia etairia poy empleketai me to gnwsto tropo se ola ayta ta opoia syzhtoyntai kai ejetazontai apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph - me epistolh poy apesteile o ypoyrgos Epikrateias k. Pampoykhs, katopin entolhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros th Siemens Ellados, alla kai Germanias prokeimenoy na yparxei kai mia nea sxesh me thn etairia. Hdh, h Siemens Ellados apanthse kai sthn epistolh ths anaferei oti qa symballei sth plhrh diereynhsh twn shmantikwn qematwn ta opoia syzhtoyntai. Ayta anaferontai sthn epistolh.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Ti ennoeite otan lete gia nea sxesh me th Siemens, me thn etairia. Qa yparjoyn, gia paradeigma, kapoies kyrwseis, an qewrhsei h kybernhsh oti h Siemens den enhmerwnei eparkws kai den synergazetai se ayth thn kateyqynsh, opws prepei na synergastei; Qa yparjoyn, gia paradeigma, kyrwseis se sxesh me diagwnismoys kai th symmetoxh ths etairias h kati allo;

PETALWTHS: Einai gnwsto to ti egine me th Siemens. Ta maqainoyme hmera me thn hmera, prokyptoyn apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph kai fysika gia ola yparxoyn oi synepeies.

GIANNISHS: Thn epistolh pros thn Siemens Germanias, qa th dhmosiopoihsete;

PETALWTHS: Qa frontisw na dhmosiopoihqei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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