Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-08-27

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 27 Aygoystoy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 221072941

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 27 Aygoystoy 2009

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Geia sas.

" Ek meroys ths kybernhshs kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, qa hqela, na ekfrasw thn odynh mas, th syntribh mas, gia ton tragiko qanato toy Smhnarxoy Stergioy Kwtoyla, pilotoy pyrosbestikoy aeroskafoys, poy katepese prin apo liges wres, sthn perioxh ths Kefalonias. O atyxos pilotos, o opoios eixe megalh diadromh sthn aeroporia mas, exase th zwh toy kata thn wra toy kaqhkontos, thn wra ths sklhrhs maxhs me thn pyrinh lailapa.

Se ayth thn poly dyskolh stigmh, aisqanomai, ek meroys olwn mas, thn anagkh na anaferqw gia mia akomh fora sto pragmatika poly dyskolo kai shmantiko ergo poy epiteloyn osoi peftoyn me aytoqysia kai aytaparnhsh stis floges gia na prostateysoyn to fysiko periballon sth xwra mas kai thn perioysia twn politwn. Sthn oikogeneia toy eklipontos kai stoys oikeioys toy, ekfrazw ek meroys olwn mas, ta eilikrinh mas syllyphthria kai thn ameristh symparastash mas.

" Oloklhrwqhkan prin apo ligo oi synomilies poy eixe o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs me to neo Geniko Grammatea toy NATO, ton prwhn Prwqypoyrgo ths Danias k. Rasmoysen. Oi synomilies kai to geyma ergasias poy epakoloyqhse diejhxqhsan se pneyma stenhs synergasias, filias -allwste oi dyo Prwqypoyrgoi gnwrizontai apo pollwn etwn- kai synantilhchs gia ta perissotera qemata poy aforoyn th Symmaxia kai tis sxeseis ths Symmaxias me th xwra mas. O k. Prwqypoyrgos aneptyje me leptomereies tis qeseis ths xwras mas se shmantikoys tomeis ths ejwterikhs politikhs kai akoyse me endiaferon thn paroysiash poy ekane apo thn pleyra toy o Genikos Grammateas toy NATO.

" Sas exw pei gia tis shmerines synanthseis poy exei o Prwqypoyrgos me ekproswpoys koinwnikwn forewn, sto plaisio ths proetoimasias poy ginetai kaqe xrono gia th Dieqnh Ekqesh Qessalonikhs. Oi synanthseis aytes synexizontai kai ayrio:

Stis 11.00 me thn ESEE (Eqnikh Synomospondia Ellhnikoy Emporioy).

Stis 12.30 me thn GESEBE.

Kai stis 14.00 me thn ADEDY.

O kyklos twn synanthsewn qa synexistei kai me alloys foreis, opws problepetai kai opws synhqizetai kaqe xrono kai stis arxes ths allhs ebdomadas, (Deytera kai Trith). Dioti, opws gnwrizete, oi foreis einai arketoi kai oi synanthseis aytes symbaloyn shmantika sthn allhloenhmerwsh twn dyo pleyrwn.

" Epitrecte moy na epishmanw ena xarakthristiko deigma ths proxeirothtas kai aneyqynothtas, me thn opoia antimetwpizei to PASOK ena ejairetika sobaro qema. Exw edw -kai mporw na sas thn moirasw ean den thn exete dei- anakoinwsh toy PASOK me hmeromhnia 25 Aygoystoy, dhladh proxqesinh, sthn opoia, metajy allwn, anaferetai oti: To PASOK, to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, zhthse -ekeinh thn hmera- me epistolh twn eyrwboyleytwn toy pros ton Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy, thn idrysh mias aytonomhs eyrwpaikhs omadas taxeias epembashs, gia th syndromh twn eqnikwn arxwn se periptwseis megalhs ektashs pyrkagiwn kai allwn fysikwn katastrofwn, wste na mhn periorizetai h eyrwpaikh bohqeia se eqelontikes prosfores eyrwpaikwn xwrwn.

Sthn pragmatikothta, o mhxanismos aytos, ton opoio twra fainetai na eishgeitai to PASOK, oxi mono yparxei hdh kai leitoyrgei se pilotikh bash me thn epwnymia ``European Union Forest Fire Tactical Reserve'', alla kai epixeirhse, htan parwn, sth fwtia ths Attikhs, opws prokyptei apo to hmerhsio deltio toy Syntonistikoy Kentroy ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, alla kai apo th sxetikh anakoinwsh ths Genikhs Grammateias Politikhs Prostasias, ths dikhs mas dhladh yphresias. Qymaste, allwste, oti prin apo liges hmeres, sas enhmerwsa -dyo meres diadoxika- gia th diadikasia poy akoloyqhqhke kai poia htan h antapokrish, wste na erqoyn ta pyrosbestika aeroskafh, ta pyrosbestika mesa allwn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn sth xwra mas.

Qa hqela, me ayth thn eykairia na tonisw oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh htan ekeinh poy anelabe sxetikh prwtoboylia se eyrwpaiko epipedo, amesws meta tis pyrkagies, to kalokairi toy 2007 kai sth synexeia, opws fainetai allwste kai sto apospasma apo ton epishmo diktyako topo ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, dhmioyrghqhke h sygkekrimenh dynamh poy sas anefera parapanw.

Lypamai poy to lew gia mia akomh fora, den einai h proqesh moy na epanalambanomai, alla qelw na to tonisw: To PASOK prospaqei, exontas pia egkataleicei oristika th qeatrinistikh aytosygkrathsh toy, na oikeiopoihqei pragmata ta opoia exoyn ginei kai malista me prwtoboylia ths shmerinhs kybernhshs toy Kwsta Karamanlh. Na dhmioyrghsei thn entypwsh oti analambanei kapoies prwtoboylies poy den exoyn antikeimeno, dioti anaferontai se qemata poy hdh exoyn apanthqei apo toys eyrwpaikoys qesmoys. Kai den kanei, loipon, tipote allo para na epibebaiwnei ayto poy pleon jeroyme oloi mas. Mia einai h afosiwsh toy: Einai afosiwmeno sto laikismo, thn proxeirothta kai thn aneyqynothta.

" Pragmatopoihqhke xqes sto Ypoyrgeio Periballontos, Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn syskech ypo thn proedria toy Ypoyrgoy k. Giwrgoy Soyflia poy opws gnwrizete, orisqhke apo ton Prwqypoyrgo syntonisths twn prospaqeiwn gia thn apokatastash twn zhmiwn apo tis prosfates pyrkagies, me to Geniko Grammatea toy Ypoyrgeioy k. Mpalta, to Geniko Grammatea ths Perifereias k. Maniath kai yphresiakoys paragontes. Antikeimeno ths syzhthshs htan o genikoteros programmatismos gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy proklhqhkan apo tis pyrkagies, kaqws kai oi ameses kai aparaithtes energeies, wste na proxwrhsoyn opws sas eipa, me tis ligoteres dioikhtikes diadikasies, ta anagkaia antidiabrwtika kai antiplhmmyrika erga, stis perioxes poy eplhghsan.

Epishs, o Ypoyrgos k. Soyflias epikoinwnhse me ton arxhgo toy Genikoy Epiteleioy Eqnikhs Amynas, Pterarxo k. Iwannh Giagko kai toy zhthse na proxwrhsei se ayto poy epishs sas anakoinwsame: Thn aerofwtografhsh ths perioxhs kai thn etoimasia twn orqofwtoxartwn, oi opoioi einai anagkaioi gia ton aysthro, akribh, alla kai apotelesmatiko, se teleytaia analysh, kaqorismo twn anadaswtewn ektasewn. Opws sas eipa, allwste, h proqesh toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas kai toy Ypoyrgoy k. Baggelh Meimarakh, einai na proxwrhsei ayth h aerofwtografhsh to taxytero dynato.

" Se ena allo sxetiko qema. Epeidh ginontai polles syzhthseis kai dhmioyrgoyntai abasimes anhsyxies gia thn poiothta toy neroy ths limnhs toy Maraqwna, qelw na kanw, loipon, orismenes dieykriniseis.

Apo thn prwth kiolas hmera twn katastrofikwn pyrkagiwn sthn perioxh toy Maraqwna, doqhke entolh apo ton Ypoyrgo k. Giwrgo Soyflia sthn EYDAP h opoia ypagetai sthn armodiothta toy Ypoyrgeioy Periballontos, Xwrotajias kai Dhmosiwn Ergwn, gia thn pyknwsh toy synexoys, oytws h allws elegxoy twn nerwn, toso ths limnhs, oso kai twn posothtwn toy neroy poy katalhgoyn sta diylisthria. Jekaqarizoyme, loipon, oti oles oi analyseis, ta stoixeia twn opoiwn einai sth diaqesh olwn, deixnoyn oti h poiothta twn nerwn paramenei aristh.

Epishs, h limnh toy Maraqwna se nera, trofodoteitai apo ta edafh ths perioxhs molis me to 1,4% to xrono, ths posothtas neroy poy apaiteitai gia thn ydreysh toy lekanopedioy Attikhs. To nero toy Maraqwna anamignyetai me pollaplasia ydata apo to Morno kai thn Ylikh kai odhgeitai sta diylisthria ths perioxhs Galatsioy. Se periptwsh diapistwshs ths opoiasdhpote rypanshs sth limnh, diakoptetai amesws h paroxh apo thn limnh kai to diylisthrio trofodoteitai ap` eyqeias mono apo ta nera toy Mornoy kai ths Ylikhs. Tetoio peristatiko, omws, den exoyme.

H shmerinh eikona ths limnhs deixnei oti ta apokaidia exoyn sygkentrwqei apo ton anemo stis oxqes. Synergeia ths EYDAP kaqarizoyn apo ta apokaidia olh thn perimetro ths limnhs. Parallhla, h EYDAP phre entolh gia leptomerh apotypwsh ths kamenhs perioxhs gyrw apo th limnh toy Maraqwna, me stoxo thn amesh kataskeyh anabaqmwn sygkrathshs twn fertwn ylikwn kata to protypo twn ergwn poy eginan to 2007 sthn Parnhqa.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ZORMPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes to apogeyma, ekdwsate mia arkoyntws ypainiktikh anakoinwsh kata toy PASOK kai toy Proedroy toy, poy aforoyse sthn apanthtikh epistolh twn dikhgorwn toy Mixalh Xristoforakoy sto prohgoymeno aithma toy PASOK, gia xorhghsh stoixeiwn se aytoys. Opws lete, xarakthristika, ``alla leei h apanthtikh epistolh poy prokalesan me ypopth meqodologia''. Qelete na mas ejhghsete ti akribws ennoeite me ton oro ``ypopth meqodologia'';

ANTWNAROS: Ean diabasei kapoios thn apanthtikh epistolh, qa diapistwsei oti yparxoyn megales anantistoixies, qa elega me hpia ekfrash, metajy toy keimenoy ths epistolhs, ths eisagwghs thn opoia kanei to Grafeio Typoy toy PASOK kai twn pragmatikwn peristatikwn ta opoia epikalesthke to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

Den qelw na mpw se perissoteres leptomereies. Omws, ayth h symperifora, ayth h meqodeysh ths paroysiashs mias epistolhs, mias apanthtikhs epistolhs, alla kai h dhqen dikaiologia poy eixe epikalestei to PASOK gia na gracei th dikh toy epistolh, deixnoyn oti kapoies skeceis yphrxan pisw apo olh ayth thn istoria. To apotelesma paramenei ena: O k. Papandreoy epeleje na ginei kai epishma me th boyla toy kommatos toy, synomilhths enos katazhtoymenoy, apo th xwra mas, kathgoroymenoy.

Eimai bebaios oti me th dhmosiografikh peira poy oloi diaqetete mporeite prwta-prwta na diabasete kai kata deytero logo na apokryptografhsete ti akribws leei h epistolh. Pantws den leei ayto poy isxyrizetai to PASOK, oti den yparxoyn stoixeia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Allo erwthma to diko moy. Me dedomeno oti apomenei mono mia ebdomada gia ta egkainia ths Dieqnoys Ekqeshs ths Qessalonikhs kai me dedomeno th skia twn katastrofikwn pyrkagiwn, to klima einai bary sth Nea Dhmokratia. Den qewrei o Prwqypoyrgos anagkaio na proxwrhsei se orismenes allages proswpwn sthn kybernhsh h proswpwn ston eyrytero kratiko mhxanismo, prokeimenoy na steilei ena mhnyma ananewshs;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, to dedomeno einai oti exoyme arketes hmeres akomh mexri ta egkainia ths Dieqnoys Ekqeshs Qessalonikhs kai en pash periptwsei, perissotero apo mia ebdomada. Deyteron, to dedomeno to opoio eseis lete gia th Nea Dhmokratia den me briskei kaqoloy symfwno. Amfisbhtw, loipon, ta dedomena sas. Triton, exw apanthsei kai allh fora oti h shmerinh kybernhsh phgainei mprosta me to ergo ths.

Epikentrwnomaste sth doyleia thn opoia exoyme na kanoyme. Proxwrame stis metarryqmiseis poy xreiazetai h xwra shmera perissotero apo kaqe allh fora kai ayth einai h pyjida mas. Ola ta alla ta opoia anagrafontai apoteloyn merh senariwn, ta opoia kapoioi ejyfainoyn. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

POLYMEROS: Stelexh omws toy PASOK se kat` idian syzhthseis me synadelfoys mas, tonizoyn pws o Prwqypoyrgos eite kanei ekloges ton Oktwbrh eite ton Marth, qa tis xasei. Epipleon, epishmainoyn oti oi ekloges einai mia anapnoh apo thn pragmatopoihsh toys. Ti apantate eseis;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw an synomiloyn me ton arxhgo toys. Dioti ekeinos o opoios ekbiastika qelei na prokalesei ekloges kai malista ekmetalleyomenos to qema ths epanekloghs toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, einai o arxhgos toys. Molonoti tis teleytaies deka hmeres apofeygoyn na anaferqoyn se ayto to qema. Toys einai kapws dysaresto fainetai. Oi Ellhnes polites omws den jexnoyn. Gnwrizoyn th meqodologia toy k. Papandreoy. Gnwrizoyn thn katapathsh twn kanonwn toy Syntagmatos toso oson afora to gramma, oso kai to pneyma toy Syntagmatos poy epixeirei na kanei me ayth thn kinhsh toy o k. Papandreoy. Emeis, loipon, epikentrwnomaste sth doyleia mas.

ZORMPA: Ep` aytoy, qelw na rwthsw oti efoson eseis, opws diateineste, h kybernhsh einai proshlwmenh sthn paragwgh ergoy kai sthn oloklhrwsh twn metarryqmisewn ths, kai dedomenoy ta senaria twn prowrwn fqinopwrinwn eklogwn, kopasan molis 72 wres, logw twn katastrofikwn pyrkagiwn. Qewreite se o,ti afora ta dika sas stelexh kai oxi toy PASOK, exete steilei eparkws jekaqaro mhnyma oti den sxediazete ekloges ton Oktwbrh;

ANTWNAROS: Egw ekeino to opoio lew -kai to lew gia mia akomh fora- einai oti sto sxoliasmo senariwn den prokeitai na emplakw. O,ti eixa na pw gia to qema, to eipa.

POLYMEROS: Na pame ligo sth DEQ. Ti skopeyei na prowqhsei se epipedo paroxwn o Prwqypoyrgos sth DEQ, me dedomeno pws ta syndikata etoimazontai gia dynamikes kinhtopoihseis. Exete ypoch sas;

ANTWNAROS: Emeis analambanoyme prwtoboylies oi opoies einai efiktes mesa sta plaisia twn oikonomikwn dynatothtwn poy exei h xwra kai epiballomenes mesa sto plaisio twn synepeiwn poy prokalei h dieqnhs oikonomikh krish, fysika, kai sth xwra mas. Etsi wste ekeinoi oi opoioi exoyn pragmatika anagkh, oi asqenesteroi, na wfelhqoyn. Etsi wste h oikonomia na exei th sthrijh thn opoia xreiazetai prokeimenoy na einai pio sfrighlh th mera meta thn oloklhrwsh toy kykloy ths krishs.

Den prokeitai, loipon, na kanoyme tipote parapanw apo ayto poy kanoyme olo ton teleytaio enamish xrono, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme tis synepeies ths krishs, kai prokeimenoy na elafrynoyme to baros to opoio exei proklhqei se orismenoys tomeis ths koinwnias mas. Eite ayto legetai mikres epixeirhseis. Eite legetai to eisodhma twn xamhlosyntajioyxwn kai xamhlomisqwn. Eite legetai enisxyseis pros tis epixeirhseis poy xreiazontai kapoia gefyra gia na thn perasoyn kai na bgoyn ejw apo thn krish.

Einai, loipon, ena megalo plegma prwtoboyliwn oi opoies exoyn mia koinh stoxeysh: Na antimetwpisoyn problhmata, zhthmata ta opoia yparxoyn kai proklhqhkan to teleytaio diasthma. Taytoxrona, prowqoyme ekeines tis allages kai metarryqmiseis, poy opws eipa molis prohgoymenws, einai aparaithtes gia th xwra. Kai oi metarryqmiseis, oi allages aytes qa ginoyn gia oso kairo xreiazetai. Emas den mas enoxlei, den mas endiaferei ayto poy kapoioi lene politiko kostos.

POLYMEROS: Sto sygkekrimeno qema, o k. Papandreoy xqes, fainetai me ayta poy dhlwnei, na diafwnei kaqeta me ayta poy lete eseis twra, toylaxiston. Leei, loipon, se synanthseis poy eixe me ekproswpoys paragwgikwn forewn, se o,ti afora thn oikonomia, oti exoyme mpei se ena faylo kyklo, hmastan aproetoimastoi prin thn yfesh me anapotelesmatikes spatales, pelateiakes politikes sxeseis kai ola ta sxetika. Ti apantate;

ANTWNAROS: Qa apanthsw ston k. Papandreoy, toy opoioy h gnwsh ths agglikhs glwssas einai pragmatika para poly kalh, na diabasei to teleytaio teyxos toy egkyroy bretanikoy periodikoy ECONOMIST. Na diabasei kai tis statistikes poy yparxoyn stis teleytaies selides. Na diabasei enan pinaka o opoios yparxei se ena arqro poy anaferetai sto eyrw. Kai ekei qa diapistwsei oti h xwra mas, exei th mikroterh apoklish oson afora thn apoklish ths problechs toy ryqmoy anaptyjhs apo ton pragmatiko ryqmo anaptyjhs.

Antiqeta me alles xwres tis opoies deixnei na qaymazei o k. Papandreoy kai qelei na antigracei ta montela toys, poy exoyn terasties apokliseis. H xwra mas, allwste, ejakoloyqei na exei enan ryqmo anaptyjhs syn plhn mhden tois ekato. Epishs, qa doyn o k. Papandreoy kai oi synergates toy oti h ptwsh ths biomhxanikhs paragwghs sthn Ellada einai posostiaia, nomizw xamhlotera, den exw ayth th stigmh ta stoixeia mazi moy, alla nomizw xamhlotera apo ton meso oro twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, enw se orismenes megales kai isxyres xwres exei poly megalyterh ptwsh.

Qa dei epishs, oti h anergia shmeiwse sth xwra mas mikroterh ayjhsh apo ayth poy shmeiwse se alles eyrwpaikes xwres eite ths Mesogeioy, eite ths Kentrikhs kai ths Boreias Eyrwphs. Kai ola ayta bebaia, den eginan me ena magiko rabdaki. Eginan dioti eixan lhfqei metra, eixan lhfqei prwtoboylies, eixan ginei metarryqmiseis poy qwrakisan, se kapoio baqmo th xwra mas, para to gegonos oti yparxoyn terastia diarqrwtika problhmata. Para to gegonos oti to PASOK mas klhrodothse elleimmata poy eixe frontisei na ta krycei katw apo to xali. Para to gegonos oti mas afhse mia ychlh, poly ychlh anergia. Mhn kanoyn, loipon, aytoi poy prospoioyntan gia polloys mhnes oti den hjeran tipote gia dieqnh krish, oti ta agnooyn ola ayta. As mhn ypotimoyn etsi toys eaytoys toys. Toys adikoyn. Ektos kai an o k. Papandreoy kai h hgetikh toy omada janagyrna sthn palia ths qesh. Oti den yparxei dieqnhs oikonomikh krish. Ektos ean qelhsoyn jana na eqelotyflhsoyn. Tote ti na pei kaneis; Einai adiorqwtoi.

BAGIANOS: Na epanelqw sto qema twn pyrkagiwn, na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh skeftetai na entajei toys idiokthtes ayqairetwn stis apozhmiwseis, kati poy zhtoyn kai o Dhmarxoi.

ANTWNAROS: H qesh mas einai jekaqarh. Den prokeitai na apozhmiwqoyn oi idiokthtes ayqairetwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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