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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 1 Dekembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 172810092

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 1h Dekembrioy 2008

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete. Kalh ebdomada kai kalo mhna.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa synanthqei ayrio, Trith, 2 Dekembrioy, stis 11.30, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton Dioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados k. Giwrgo Probopoylo.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxoyn 150 sympolites mas sto aerodromio ths Tailandhs, alla kai se alles perioxes ekei gyrw, kai den mporoyn na epistrecoyn sth xwra. Hqela na rwthsw, ti energeies exei kanei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na erqoyn pisw oi Ellhnes;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws, gnwrizete thn anakoinwsh poy ejedwse molis pro oligoy to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Apo thn enarjh twn gegonotwn, h Presbeia ths Elladas sthn Tailandh parakoloyqei me megalh prosoxh tis ejelijeis kai brisketai se diarkh epikoinwnia me tis tailandikes arxes kai se syntonismo me tis ypoloipes koinotikes Presbeies. Symfwna me tis epi topoy ektimhseis, h katastash den empneei anhsyxia gia thn asfaleia twn allodapwn kai fysika kai twn Ellhnwn yphkown, poy briskontai sth xwra. Ayth th stigmh pragmatopoieitai periorismenos, poly mikros ariqmos emporikwn pthsewn se kontina aerodromia. Gnwrizete oti ta dyo kentrika aerodromia ths prwteyoysas einai mplokarismena gia toys gnwstoys logoys, me apotelesma na yparxoyn megales kaqysterhseis kai makres listes anamonhs. Prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei ayth h katastash, opws tonizetai sthn anakoinwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, exoyn jekinhsei oi aparaithtes proetoimasies kai oi diadikasies xorhghshs twn sxetikwn adeiwn, wste na anaxwrhsei to syntomotero dynaton aeroskafos C-130 ths Polemikhs Aeroporias gia ton epanapatrismo Ellhnwn politwn poy briskontai sthn Tailandh kai epiqymoyn na epistrecoyn. H ellhnikh Presbeia sthn Mpangkogk kai to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn qa synexisoyn na parakoloyqoyn me megalh prosoxh tis ejelijeis, qa parameinoyn se etoimothta kai qa proboyn se kaqe aparaithth energeia, se periptwsh poy apaithqei. Sas lew, loipon, symperasmatika kai apo thn enhmerwsh poy eixa apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn oti ayth th stigmh den yparxoyn logoi anhsyxias gia thn ygeia kai thn asfaleia twn Ellhnwn politwn poy briskontai oi perissoteroi, opws gnwrizete, ws episkeptes sthn Tailandh.

PARTALIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws blepete thn protash toy k. Abramopoyloy gia thn eklogh toy arxhgoy ths Neas Dhmokratias apo th bash;

ANTWNAROS: Sas einai kala gnwsto oti o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos asxoleitai me toys Ypoyrgoys, se o,ti afora qemata ths armodiothtas toys.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela ena sxolio ths kybernhshs gia to eggrafo to opoio apokalyce h ELEYQEROTYPIA kai symfwna me to opoio deixnei oti ``mayro xrhma'' ths Siemens katelhje, mesw ths off shore etaireias MAYO, eite sto kommatiko tameio ths Neas Dhmokratias, eite se proswpa poy eixan prwtagwnistiko rolo sto komma ekeinh thn periodo.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio, alla gnwrizete bebaiws kai eseis, opws gnwrizw kai egw, oti gia ekeinh thn periodo yparxei sxetikh dhlwsh-topoqethsh toy tote Prwqypoyrgoy kai arxhgoy ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Kwnstantinoy Mhtsotakh.

KORAH: Afoy h kybernhsh einai yper ths strathgikhs ``ola sto fws'', giati den anoigoyn aytoi oi logariasmoi ths MAYO;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyn ereynhqei ola ayta ta zhthmata, sto parelqon.

KAKALHS: Kata th diarkeia ths episkechs toy Prwqypoyrgoy, to prwi, sto Ypoyrgeio Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai stis dhlwseis poy ekane, den akoysa na pei tipote gia th ragdaia ptwsh twn agrotikwn proiontwn, oyte epishs gia to gegonos oti enw oi agrotes poylane pio fthna, oi times twn agrotikwn proiontwn ftanoyn stoys katanalwtes se akomh pio ychles times ap` o,ti sto parelqon. Aytos einai o dromos ths sobarothtas kai ths ypeyqynothtas ton opoio epaggelletai o Prwqypoyrgos;

ANTWNAROS: Opws eipe o Prwqypoyrgos, h kybernhsh exei parei metra wste na antimetwpisei problhmata h qemata poy exoyn anafyei ston eyrytero xwro toy agrotikoy kosmoy. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti oi times twn agrotikwn proiontwn stis perissoteres periptwseis, eite otan phgainoyn pros ta panw, eite otan phgainoyn pros ta katw, exoyn sxesh me to ti ginetai gia antistoixa proionta se pagkosmio, dieqnes epipedo. Kai gi` ayto akribws, epeidh, opws eipate, yparxei mia meiwsh ths timhs twn proiontwn kai endexomenws dhmioyrgeitai ena elleimma sto eisodhma twn agrotwn mas, emeis phrame sygkekrimena metra, sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies. Apofasisame thn katabolh ths ejiswtikhs apozhmiwshs, ycoys 170 ekatommyriwn eyrw kai to poso ayto katablhqhke stoys dikaioyxoys poly grhgora, xwris apwleia xronoy, etsi wste na smikrynqei, na metriastei h endexomenh apwleia eisodhmatos. Taytoxrona - -sas ypenqymizw- - o armodios Ypoyrgos Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn k. Alekos Kontos, me prwtoboylia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, katafere na ejasfalisei oti qa synexistoyn oi kataboles stoys kapnoparagwgoys mexri to etos 2013. Kai to lew ayto, giati prokeitai gia ena proion, to opoio sthn oysia eixe ejaireqei. Den eixe problefqei na ginontai kataboles stoys kapnoparagwgoys kai oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis den eixan frontisei, wste na synexistoyn aytes oi plhrwmes. Aytes, loipon, einai prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs, gi` ayto tis anaferw, oi opoies deixnoyn oti mas endiaferei kai mas apasxolei para poly h anaplhrwsh tyxon apwleiwn poy yparxoyn sto agrotiko eisodhma.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla otan apodidete thn ayjhsh h th meiwsh twn timwn mono stis dieqneis times twn agrotikwn proiontwn...

ANTWNAROS: Egw den eipa ayto. Bazete sto stoma moy pragmata ta opoia den eipa.

KAKALHS: Kanate anafores sto pagkosmio epipedo.

ANTWNAROS: Eipa oti oi times, as poyme, toy kalampokioy, sthn Ellada einai fysiko na parakoloyqoyn tis dieqneis times. H Ellada den einai ena nhsi, poy paragei kalampoki wste na exei to kalampoki sthn Ellada aytonomh timh, diaforetikh timh apo aytes poy exei se alles xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, opoy paragetai to idio proion. Yparxei mia dieqnhs timh gia to kalampoki, to ladi, to sitari kai einai fysiko, oi times sthn Ellada na parakoloyqoyn tis times genika ston kosmo.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla otan apodidete ayto sxedon apokleistika, stis dieqneis aytes times, tis times twn agrotikwn proiontwn, den aqwwnete ta kartel poy apodedeigmena droyn sto xwro kai exoyn ws apotelesma na agorazoyn se fthnes times ta agrotika proionta kai na ftanoyn ston katanalwth se poly pio akribes;

ANTWNAROS: Eilikrina, den mporw na sas parakoloyqhsw.

KAKALHS: Den einai toso dyskolo. Koitajte ti ginetai sto gala, sto kreas... Ola ayta den ta jerete;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Edwsa mia diejodikh apanthsh, h opoia periexei ola ta stoixeia poy prepei, wste na ginoyn antilhptes oi pragmatikes diastaseis toy qematos.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na perasw se ena allo qema. Xqes, se kyriakatiko fyllo kai shmera se apogeymatinh efhmerida eidame ena poly shmantiko reportaz gia mia ypoqesh poy qymizei, arketa qa elega, to qema ths Monhs Batopaidioy kai afora sthn paraxwrhsh 38.000 stremmatwn sthn Iera Monh Megisths Layras sthn Skyro, opoy feretai na empleketai kai boyleyths toy PASOK. Qelw na ypenqymisw de oti to qema ayto efere prwth sto fws ths dhmosiothtas h efhmerida AYRIANH, me dyo prwtoselida dhmosieymata, pro oligwn ebdomadwn. Qelw na sas rwthsw pws ajiologei to qema ayto h kybernhsh kai pws skopeyete na prajete gia th diereynhsh ths ypoqeshs.

ANTWNAROS: Oles oi ypoqeseis poy periexoyn stoixeia parabatikothtas, eimai bebaios oti ereynwntai apo thn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh.

FOYRLHS: Hqela na rwthsw an o Prwqypoyrgos qewrei oti einai epikairo na balei ta pragmata sth qesh toys h na ekfrasei telos pantwn th dikh toy apoch gia ayth th syzhthsh poy diejagetai, me ton enan h ton allo tropo, dhmosiws, metajy Ypoyrgwn se sxesh me to pws prepei na leitoyrgei to kybernwn komma kai se sxesh me tis diadikasies poy qa eprepe, kata orismenoys toylaxiston, na allajoyn wste na dhmioyrghqei h aisqhsh ths freskadas kai ths ananewshs.

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos asxoleitai kata kyrio logo me tis desmeyseis, tis opoies exei analabei h shmerinh kybernhsh, oson afora to programma ths shmerinhs kybernhshs kai thn ylopoihsh toy. Ayth einai h proteraiothta olwn mas.

XIWTHS: Ara, apo ayto poy lete - -synexizw thn erwthsh- - oi Ypoyrgoi poy asxoloyntai me alloy eidoys zhthmata, opws ayto ths diadoxhs h toy anasxhmatismoy poy proanaggellei shmera o Grammateas toy kommatos, mas lete oti den einai swstes. Den ekfrazontai...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena allo sxolio, peran twn oswn eipa.

MPOTSARHS: Na epanelqw se erwthsh synadelfoy sxetika me ton k. Abramopoylo. Klhqeis na sxoliasete tis dhlwseis toy, eipate ``o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos asxoleitai me toys Ypoyrgoys oson afora qemata ths armodiothtas toys''. Dhladh, einai anarmodios o Ypoyrgos kai ena stelexos ths Neas Dhmokratias na asxoleitai me thn epikeimenh eklogh neoy arxhgoy kai einai ektos qematos; Ton kalei h kybernhsh na asxoleitai dhladh mono me ta toy Ypoyrgeioy toy poy den paei kai toso kala kai oxi me th bash kai me thn eklogh Proedroy;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

KAKALHS: Prin apo thn oikonomikh krish h kybernhsh eixe yposxeqei oti qa diaqesei 1,5 dis. eyrw gia ta eth 2008  2009 gia to Tameio Kata Ths Ftwxeias. Twra poy jespase h oikonomikh krish exei periorisei ta kondylia se 100 + 350 = 450 ekatommyria gia thn epomenh dietia. Me ayto ton tropo apodeiknyetai sthn prajh h ejaggelia sas peri sthrijhs twn oikonomika asqenesterwn;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, jexnate polles prwtoboylies tis opoies exei analabei h kybernhsh.

KAKALHS: Eseis den jexnate th ftwxeia poy exei megalwsei...

ANTWNAROS: Katabalame amesa stoys dikaioyxoys thn ejiswtikh apozhmiwsh ycoys 170 ekat. eyrw gia thn enisxysh ths. Xrhmatodotoyme me atoko daneio ycoys 150 ekat. eyrw tis Enwseis Agrotikwn Synetairismwn, wste na doqoyn apo twra prokataboles stoys paragwgoys dhmhtriakwn. Anakoinwsame egkairws kai hdh efarmozetai sthn prajh to systhma eggyodosias mesw toy Tameioy Eggyodosias mikrwn kai poly mikrwn epixeirhsewn, gia daneia ta opoia einai idiaitera eynoika, me trieth diarkeia kai mhdeniko epitokio gia mikres kai poly mikres epixeirhseis. Sas anefera tria endeiktika metra. Yparxoyn loipon polles prwtoboylies, tis opoies ean aqroisete, qa deite oti jepernoyn kata poly to poso to opoio anaferate. Einai prwtoboylies poy apoblepoyn akribws sthn enisxysh, sthn anakoyfish olwn ekeinwn poy exoyn th megalyterh anagkh sthn koinwnia mas.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, omws, parola ayta oi koinwnikes anisothtes kai h ftwxeia megalwnei. Ayto deixnoyn ta stoixeia, alla hqela na rwthsw twra jekinoyn na pairnoyn oi trapezes to zesto xrhma. Hdh pairnoyn mesa sto mhna, diabazw, ta 2 prwta dis. eyrw. Oi trapezes sto plaisio toy paketoy sthrijhs qa paroyn hdh mesa sto mhna 2 dis. apo to paketo poy afora ta omologa. Gia toys anergoys kai toys ergazomenoys poy exoyn misqoys katw apo ta oria ths ftwxeias, h kybernhsh pote qa dwsei;

ANTWNAROS: Otan yparxei kati, qa sas enhmerwsw.

TSIOYFOS: Tis teleytaies hmeres parakoloyqoyme polloys boyleytes ths paratajhs sas kai Ypoyrgoys, na dieyrynoyn ton kyklo olwn aytwn poy miloyn gia yparjh politikwn eyqynwn sto skandalo toy Batopaidioy. Kapoioi ej aytwn einai malista kai melh ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs poy deixnei oti, telos pantwn, mesa apo th diadikasia kai tis akroaseis ths Ejetastikhs oti kati perissotero piqanwn na exoyn katalabei. Eseis ejakoloyqeite na milate gia mh yparjh politikwn eyqynwn;

ANTWNAROS : Exw topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws.

TSIOYFOS: Nai to jerw. Rwthsa an ejakoloyqeite na...

ANTWNAROS: Briskw poly ypokritiko kai ceytiko ayto poy ginetai aytes tis meres, th stigmh malista poy ayth th bdomada, apo shmera, exoyn klhqei na kataqesoyn sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph - -ths opoias thn systash, sas ypenqymizw gia akomh mia fora einai h shmerinh kybernhsh ekeinh h opoia thn proteine- - ta politika proswpa, speydoyn kapoioi poly biastika gia logoys entypwsewn na bgaloyn porisma. Anakoinwnoyn, ayto kanoyn, ypogeiws bebaiws, giati den to kanoyn epishmws, proeilhmmenes apofaseis. Biazontai na apodwsoyn eyqynes. Emeis den qa to kanoyme...

KAKALHS: To exete kanei hdh.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw, afhste me na teleiwsw.

KAKALHS: Na to teleiwsete.

ANTWNAROS: Kai to lew dioti akribws, aytes tis meres, exoyn klhqei na kataqesoyn ta politika proswpa. Egw qa anameinw thn oloklhrwsh ths ereynas.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite alla den einai proeilhmmenh apofash na lete oti den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes; An mh ti allo ti einai ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Diabaste akribws ti exw pei.

KAKALHS: Jerw poly kala ti exete pei.

ANTWNAROS: Diabaste akribws ti exw pei. Jerw poly kala ti lew.

KAKALHS: Den qa paizoyme me tis lejeis. Peste mas eyqews yparxoyn h den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes;

ANTWNAROS: Egw qa kanw problech;

KORAH: Akribws ayto qelw na sas qymisw oti eipate ``emena den moy prokyptoyn politikes eyqynes''.

ANTWNAROS: Malista.

KORAH: Ara, loipon, eseis bgalate porisma diko sas.

ANTWNAROS: An ayto katalabate...

KORAH: Ti allo na katalabw;

FOYRLHS: H xrhsh toy enestwta sth frash poy xrhsimopoihsate thn perasmenh ebdomada ``den moy prokyptoyn politikes eyqynes'', afhnei orqws na antilhfqoyme pws h epanajiologhsh einai kaqhmerinh kai oti ara qa epanalhfqei h ajiologhsh, meta to peras twn ergasiwn ths Ejetastikhs, twn dedomenwn;

ANTWNAROS: H syzhthsh, gia emena, exei ejantlhqei. Den exw na pw kati allo sxetika me ayto.

SWTHRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me aformh thn protash toy k. Abramopoyloy, h k. Mpakogiannh ekane logo gia eyfantasta senaria kai proswpikes strathgikes. Symmerizeste thn apoch ths k. Mpakogiannh oti yparxoyn senaria, yparxoyn kapoioi sthn kybernhsh poy dhmioyrgoyn senaria kai exoyn proswpikes strathgikes;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw gia to qema, to eipa.

KORAH: O Prwqypoyrgos k. Karamanlhs, apantwntas se sxetiko erwthma sth synenteyjh Typoy ths DEQ, eixe pei oti einai poly neos akoma gia na bgei sth syntajh. Isxyei ayto h exei kati allajei thn olh toy politikh proseggish;

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizete oti den allazw pragmata ta opoia exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos.

TSIOYFOS: Qa epanelqw se ayto poy rwthsa prohgoymenws: Eipate oti kapoioi biazontai na apodwsoyn eyqynes. Fantazomai oti mesa se aytoys poy lete oti biazontai, symperilambanete kai toys boyleytes toy kommatos sas, kat` arxas. Kai deyteron, shmeiwsa edw, oti eipate oti den qa kanete problech eseis. Me ta osa exoyme mexri twra akoysei, diabasei, apo tis kataqeseis poy yphrjan, shmantikes kai aytes poy akoloyqoyn ayth thn ebdomada, den einai kai toso qema problechs gia na milhsei kaneis an yparxoyn h den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes, einai kai symperasma twn mexri twra ejelijewn. Etsi den einai;

ANTWNAROS: H erwthsh sas;

TSIOYFOS: H erwthsh moy einai, an kat` arxhn mesa se aytoys poy lete oti biazontai, sygkatalegete, symperilambanete kai aytoys oi opoioi apo to komma sas milane gia analhch politikwn eyqynwn kai na moy dwsete mia peraiterw ejhghsh se ayto poy eipate ``problech''. Egw den qewrw oti einai qema problechs. Den paizoyme Joker, oyte paizoyme LOTTO edw pera, akoyme kataqeseis.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw to eipa.

FOYRLHS: Hqela na rwthsw, epeidh blepw, parakoloyqw tis kinhseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy ta tria teleytaia Sabbatokyriaka, oti pragmatopoiei kapoies episkeceis kai emfaniseis, epilegontas kaqe fora ergasiakoys xwroys, ``fylassomenoys'' xwroys, en pash periptwsei, kai den perilambanetai sto programma toy mia apeyqeias epafh me polites, oi opoioi endexomenws qa eixan na poyn ston Prwqypoyrgo pragmata kai endexomenws kai ekeinos qa eixe na akoysei. Ginetai gia kapoio logo; Einai skopimh ayth h epilogh; Poio einai to nohma ths (den akoygetai) dhladh kai na erxetai se apeyqeias epafh me toys polites;

ANTWNAROS: Exete metasxei se kamia apo aytes tis episkeceis;

FOYRLHS: Oxi.

ANTWNAROS: Sas synistw na to kanete.

MANH: O Ypoyrgos Toyrismoy, milwntas ston Kyriakatiko ``Eleyqero Typo'', zhthse emmesws plhn safws meiwsh toy FPA stis toyristikes yphresies. Shmera, o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias, milwntas sto  CITY den to apekleise. Eipe oti yparxei mia syzhthsh se ejelijh. Entelei, h proqesh ths kybernhshs einai na meiwsei to FPA stis toyristikes yphresies;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na sas anakoinwsw kati. Den yparxoyn apofaseis ep` aytoy.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa epanelqw sthn apanthsh poy moy dwsate gia to qema ths ``Eleyqerotypias'' kata thn opoia me parapemcate ston k. Mhtsotakh. Parathrhsa oti me emfash moy eipate, sthn tote periodo, milhsate gia thn tote periodo kai gia ton tote Prwqypoyrgo. Ayto pws na to ermhneysoyme; Hjere poly kala o k. Mhtsotakhs; Den yparxei synexeia sth Nea Dhmokratia; Den jerei h shmerinh hgesia ths Neas Dhmokratias ti ginotan tote;

ANTWNAROS: Den katalabainw thn erwthsh sas. Poios einai armodioteros apo ton tote Prwqypoyrgo kai tote arxhgo toy kommatos, na jerei ayta ta qemata, dedomenoy oti to dhmosieyma - -an qymamai kala- - ayto to poly genikologo dhmosieyma anaferotan se ekeinh thn periodo.

KORAH: Den einai genikologo. An to prosejate, einai para poly eidiko to dhmosieyma kai an qelete qa mporoysa na sas kanw alla deka erwthmata, alla me parapempete alloy.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai h dikh sas ektimhsh. Allh exw egw.

XRISTAKOS: Xqes, o ekproswpos toy PASOK, o k. Papakwnstantinoy, se omilia toy sthn Kozanh an den apatwmai, metajy allwn milhse kai gia thn ypoqesh ths apokalychs ths synanthshs toy me ton k. Papista, poy gnwrizoyme tis teleytaies hmeres - - na mhn pw perissotera ep` aytoy- - eipe, loipon, oti prokeitai gia mia aqlia epixeirhsh symchfismoy thn opoia ekane h kybernhsh me oles tis gnwstes leptomereies. Kai egw erwtw, gia thn kybernhsh to qema ayto einai ypoqesh symchfismoy; Yparxei kapoia, isws, piqanothta peraiterw diereynhshs toy ti akribws egine sth synanthsh ayth kai an nai, gia poio logo den zhta h kybernhsh na klhqei kai o k. Papakwnstantinoy sthn Ejetastikh na kataqesei o,ti gnwrizei kai o idios.

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw einai oti profanws o k. Papakwnstantinoy isws na qelei na symchfisei kati. Apo thn kybernhsh den yparxei kamia tetoia proqesh. Ston k. Papakwnstantinoy aphyqyna sygkekrimena erwthmata gia sygkekrimenes antifaseis. Qymaste mia synenteyjh toy - -an qymamai kala- - sto deltio eidhsewn toy ALTER kai diaforetika pragmata poy eixe pei dyo hmeres prin, den exw ayth th stigmh ta stoixeia mazi moy, sth dikh toy enhmerwsh. Oi antifaseis paramenoyn. Den exei para na dwsei apanthseis. Ta polla logia einai ftwxeia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Stekomai se mia apanthsh sas, otan klhqhkate na sxoliasete gia ta peri diadoxhs toy k. Abramopoyloy. Eipate oti eseis kai o Prwqypoyrgos asxoleiste kai apantate mono se o,ti afora qemata...

ANTWNAROS: Anafereste ston Prwqypoyrgo; Egw den eipa tetoio pragma.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia sas. Eseis, loipon, eipate oti apantate mono se o,ti afora qemata armodiothtas twn Ypoyrgwn. Kai egw anarwtiemai me th seira moy, o k. Abramopoylos eixe na pei kati gia ta qemata ths diadoxhs, mellontika, den jerw kai egw pote, gia poio xrono. Se sxesh me ta qemata Ygeias, omws, h kybernhsh qewrei oti einai ola kala ston tomea ths Ygeias; Oti ola pane kala kai den yparxei kanena problhma; Giati den eida na topoqeteite gi` ayto, oyte o Ypoyrgos, oyte kai h kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Nomizw oti exete erqei apo allon kosmo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Profanws, den to apokleiw.

ANTWNAROS: Thn Paraskeyh egine syzhthsh ep` aytoy sth Boylh, gia qemata Ygeias.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, egw lew alla, omws.

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw, loipon, stis dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den me katalabate. Egw lew oti h kybernhsh den sxoliazei tis dhlwseis toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy Ygeias gia qemata diadoxhs. Den blepw, omws, ton k. Abramopoylo na mila gia qemata armodiothtas toy kai anarwtiemai: Einai toso poly kala kai wraia ta pragmata h apla den asxoleitai kaneis me ta qemata Ygeias;

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas apantw: Egine syzhthsh, topoqethqhke o Prwqypoyrgos thn Paraskeyh gia qemata Ygeias. Pws den asxoleitai kaneis me qemata Ygeias;

MPOTSARHS: Me dyo logia, h diadoxologia blaptei thn kybernhsh kai to ergo poy prospaqei na parajei to teleytaio diasthma;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati perissotero apo osa eipa.

FOYRLHS: An kai den exw akoloyqhsei to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qelw na epanelqw gia na rwthsw jana, ean qewrei o Prwqypoyrgos profanws oti h epafh me toys polites kai h eikona poy proslambanei gia to klima sthn koinwnia, einai eparkh mesa apo aytes tis Sabbatiatikes oligowres episkeceis h an qewrei skopimo na kanei kati perissotero apo ayto.

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos kanei polles episkeceis, exei polles synomilies, exei synexh epafh me oloys toys Ellhnes polites.

PALAIOLOGOS: Alhqeyei ayto poy afhnei na ennohqei - -prosejte ti lew- - o k. Zagoriths oti qa exoyme anasxhmatismo meta tis giortes; Sta ``NEA'' shmera, edwse mia synenteyjh.

ANTWNAROS: Moy kanete erwthseis, oi opoies ws apanthsh mporoyn na exoyn mono to aytonohto. To gnwrizete.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poio; To aytonohto poio einai; Oti qa exoyme anasxhmatismo meta tis giortes.

ANTWNAROS: Oti to qema toy anasxhmatismoy einai apokleistiko pronomio toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den allazei kati se ayto.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla egw sas rwthsa, epeidh ena koryfaio stelexos, ajiwmatoyxos ths Rhgillhs, anaferqhke se ayto. Gi` ayto sas lew, alliws den qa to rwtoysa.

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas apanthsa me tropo jekaqaro kai pera apo opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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