Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-11-27

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 27 Noembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 172136343

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 27 Noembrioy 2008

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Me sygxwreite gia thn kaqysterhsh. Ofeiletai opws sas eixa pei kai xqes, sth diejagwgh twn synomiliwn metajy ths ellhnikhs antiproswpeias, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo k. Kwsta Karamanlh kai ths kypriakhs antiproswpeias ypo ton Proedro k. Dhmhtrh Xristofia. Oloklhrwqhkan prin apo ligo oi synomilies metajy twn antiproswpeiwn twn dyo kybernhsewn, oi opoies synexisthkan kai kata to geyma ergasias, to opoio pareqese o Prwqypoyrgos k. Karamanlhs, pros timhn toy Proedroy k. Xristofia, o opoios episkeptetai epishmws th xwra mas.

Kata th diarkeia twn synomiliwn, oi opoies diejhxqhsan se poly egkardio kai filiko klima, o Proedros k. Xristofias eixe thn eykairia na enhmerwsei thn ellhnikh kybernhsh me diejodiko tropo gia thn poreia kai tis prooptikes twn dikoinotikwn diapragmateysewn poy jekinhsan stis 3 Septembrioy, metajy twn dyo Koinothtwn sthn Kypro, thn Ellhnokypriakh kai thn Toyrkokypriakh Koinothta, ypo thn aigida toy Genikoy Grammatea toy Organismoy twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn. Opws gnwrizete, h enarjh ths neas diapragmateytikhs diadikasias htan apotelesma prwtoboyliwn toy Proedroy k. Xristofia. Stoxos twn syzhthsewn, oi opoies diejagontai me bash ta chfismata toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, kaqws kai tis arxes kai tis ajies ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs ths opoias kai oi dyo xwres h Ellada kai h Kypros einai plhrh melh, einai h anazhthsh mias lyshs gia to Kypriako, me bash mia dizwnikh dikoinotikh omospondia me politikh isothta, mia dieqnh proswpikothta, mia kyriarxia kai mia iqageneia.

Sas einai gnwsto oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh sthrizei apolytws tis prwtoboylies toy Proedroy Xristofia, me diarkh synergasia kai plhrh syntonismo twn dyo kybernhsewn. Ena syntonismo, o opoios stis paroyses synqhkes ginetai akomh pio stenos.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, symfwna me tis apoceis koryfaioy stelexoys, koryfaioy Ypoyrgoy, oi polites stis dhmoskophseis katalogizoyn politikes eyqynes gia to skandalo toy Batopaidioy. Poia einai h apoch ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy peite poion ennoeite. Anwnymws den sxoliazw pote.

PALAIOLOGOS: Eipa, koryfaioy Ypoyrgoy. Toy k. Baggelh Meimarakh, toy Ypoyrgoy Amynas.

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizete oti o k. Meimarakhs ekane mia dhlwsh xqes, me thn opoia leei oti pragmata ta opoia apodidontai ston idio kai sygkekrimena se idiwtikh synomilia thn opoia eixe me dhmosiografoys, den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta. Einai h ermhneia poy kanw egw, dioti gnwrizete ti akribws eipe o k. Meimarakhs. Oydemia anafora ekane oti yparxoyn politikes eyqynes se politika proswpa. ``Se Ypoyrgoys'' eipe epi lejei sthn anakoinwsh toy o k. Meimarakhs. Ayth h dhlwsh bazei me safh tropo teleia kai payla se parafilologia h opoia proeklhqh apo ermhneia, opws eipa, mias anepishmhs synomilias poy eixe o Ypoyrgos Amynas k. Meimarakhs me dhmosiografoys.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh anaferqhkate se dhlwsh toy k. Meimarakh, egw th monh epishmh - -opws lete eseis- - dhlwsh toy k. Meimarakh poy jerw einai oti oydepote dhlwse pws yparxoyn politikes eyqynes Ypoyrgwn.

ANTWNAROS: Malista, ayto ennow.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den exei kanei, omws, dhlwsh oti apodidontai esfalmena koybentes poy eipe se idiwtikh synomilia me dhmosiografoys kai dedomenoy oti ayth mia...

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai mia dikh moy ermhneia thn opoia kanw kai ws tetoia xrhsimopoieiste thn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Akribws. Etsi, gia toy logoy to akribes.

ANTWNAROS: Malista.

PALAIOLOGOS: Apo thn allh, h kybernhsh qewrei pws yparxoyn politikes eyqynes gia to qema toy Batopaidioy;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws. Einai safhs kai gnwsth h qesh ths kybernhshs. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo. H ypoqesh ereynatai apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph, se baqos. Emeis exoyme empistosynh sthn ereyna thn opoia diejagei h Ejetastikh Epitroph, se baqos, opws epishs exoyme empistosynh sthn ereyna, h opoia diejagetai apo th Dikaiosynh gia thn idia ypoqesh, se baqos. Ypenqymizw gia mia akomh fora oti ekeinh h opoia zhthse th systash ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs einai h shmerinh kybernhsh. Kai einai alloi oi opoioi prospaqoyn me diafora diadikastika trik - -an moy epitrepete thn ekfrash- - diadikastikoys eligmoys, na parateinoyn kai endexomenws na eytelisoyn th leitoyrgia ths Epitrophs.

TERZHS: Apo th stigmh, loipon, poy o k. Meimarakhs ejedwse ayth thn anakoinwsh, nomimopoioymaste, loipon, ki edw na th syzhthsoyme kai na mh milame gia anepishmes dhlwseis. O k. Meimarakhs, loipon, opws anefere kai o synadelfos, den leei sthn anakoinwsh toy oti den anaferqhke se politikes eyqynes. Leei oti den anaferqhke se politikes eyqynes Ypoyrgwn, prolambanontas thn ermhneia poy edwse to PASOK h apantwntas se ayto poy eipe to PASOK. Kai erwtw: H kybernhsh ti qewrei ws politikh eyqynh, gia na to jekaqarisoyme;

ANTWNAROS: Den protiqemai na kanw syzhthsh gia to qema ths politikhs eyqynhs. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite se syntagmatologoys h eidikoys gia na kanete qewrhtikh syzhthsh gia to ti einai politikh eyqynh. Opws gnwrizete, h Ejetastikh Epitroph exei ena sygkekrimeno ergo to opoio ths exei anateqei na to epitelesei. Qa to epitelesei. Emeis pisteyoyme - -sas to exw pei kai den exw kamia dyskolia na to epanalabw- - oti den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes. Parola tayta, den eixame kamia dyskolia na zhthsoyme th systash ths Epitrophs.

TERZHS: Tote gia na synexisw, plhn toy k. Meimarakh poy htan mia idiwtikh syzhthsh, yparxoyn boyleytes, alla yparxei kai o Ypoyrgos Toyrismoy poy eipe oti plhrwnoyme to Batopaidi stis dhmoskophseis. To ekane se thleoptikh synenteyjh toy sthn kratikh thleorash. Kai anarwtiemai, afoy den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes, giati h koinh gnwmh mesw twn dhmoskophsewn, exei ayth thn eikona gia thn kybernhsh ws pros to Batopaidi;

ANTWNAROS: Dioti endexomenws exei dhmioyrghqei mia perirreoysa atmosfaira apo orismenoys. Ayto den odhgei ypoxrewtika sthn yparjh politikwn eyqynwn. Kaqe allo.

DHMADHS: Katarxhn, na sas rwthsw an qewreite kai an symfwneite eseis oti ayth h perirreoysa atmosfaira, opws diamorfwqhke ejaitias ths ypoqeshs me th Monh Batopaidioy exei pragmati plhjei politika, se opoio baqmo ayto synebh, thn kybernhsh opws emfanizetai stis dhmoskophseis. An symfwneite katarxhn me ayto.

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhmoskophseis.

DHMADHS: Kai deyteron, an moy epitrepete, oson afora sto qema twn politikwn eyqynwn, anejarthtws toy pws orizontai oi politikes eyqynes me bash thn koinh apodekth syntagmatikh ermhneia, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, epeidh eipate oti den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes. Ayth th stigmh yparxei mia en ejelijei Ejetastikh Epitroph. Se periptwsh poy ta melh ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs katalhjoyn sthn yparjh politikwn eyqynwn, qa synainesei h Nea Dhmokratia sth systash, sthn prowqhsh ths Proanakritikhs Epitrophs h qa exei mia nea fygomaxia opws thn perasmenh fora;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, h Nea Dhmokratia den fygomaxhse pote. Deyteron, h Nea Dhmokratia kai h kybernhsh exoyn topoqethqei me apolyth safhneia kai sto qema ths Proanakritikhs Epitrophs. Triton kai teleytaio, epeidh ola ta pragmata den ejelissontai me thleoptikoys h dhmosiografikoys xronoys, qa parakaloysa kai toys dhmosiografoys na anameinoyn kai ekeinoi, opws anamenoyn oloi, thn oloklhrwsh ths ereynas apo thn Ejetastikh Epitroph.

DHMADHS: Ara kai eseis ws kybernhsh perimenete ta symperasmata ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs kai epomenws den protrexete na peite oti den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes.

ANTWNAROS: Apo osa gnwrizw kai apo osa exw diapistwsei mexri stigmhs den prokyptoyn politikes eyqynes.

DHMADHS: Synepws, parakoloyqeite to periexomeno ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, ara exete apoch kai gnwmh epi toy ti symbainei sthn Ejetastikh Epitroph gia na lete oti den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes.

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws kai exw gnwsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Molis twra dhlwsate me kathgorhmatiko tropo oti den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes.

ANTWNAROS: Den moy prokyptoyn, an protimate ayth thn ekfrash. Den moy exoyn prokycei. Einai akribws h idia frash.

PALAIOLOGOS: Akribws.

TERZHS: Protimoyme thn apolyth.

ANTWNAROS: Den moy prokyptoyn politikes eyqynes.

PALAIOLOGOS: Malista. Eiste safhs. Na qewrhsoyme tote oti den symmerizeste tis apoceis boyleytwn, epwnymws ths k. Patrianakoy poy milaei gia skandalo sthn ypoqesh Batopaidioy.

ANTWNAROS: Tis qeseis ths kybernhshs tis ekfrazw egw. Kai den sxoliazw pote apoceis boyleytwn. Den qa to kanw oyte ayth th fora.

PALAIOLOGOS: Bebaiws, h erwthsh moy aforoyse sto an h kybernhsh qewrei oti einai skandalo h ypoqesh Batopaidioy. Ayth htan h eyqeia erwthsh moy.

ANTWNAROS: Monos sas to eipate, ``ypoqesh Batopaidioy''.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, egw lew symmerizetai pws einai skandalo h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Egw th lew ypoqesh.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, to Sabbatokyriako, qa tajidecei sthn Eyboia; Yparxei mia tetoia plhroforia. Thn epibebaiwnete;

ANTWNAROS: Otan yparjei kati gia episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy se kapoia perioxh ths Elladas, qa to plhroforhqeite. Ayth th stigmh, den exw na sas anakoinwsw kati.

PARTALIDHS: Exw dyo erwthseis poy synocizontai sto fainomeno ths anasfaleias poy xarakthrizei kai poy aisqanontai oi polites sthn Attikh, alla kai sthn eparxia. Epeidh briskomaste stis hmeres prin ta Xristoygenna kai jeroyme oti o OGA qa plhrwsei to prwto dekahmero dwra, epidomata k.l.p., ayto einai mia proklhsh gia toys kleftes. H prwth erwthsh moy einai: Qa labei h kybernhsh ta aparaithta metra wste na empedwsei to aisqhma asfaleias enanti ths anasfaleias poy xarakthrizei toys polites; Kai h deyterh erwthsh: Exete dei sto ejwteriko, egw as milhsw gia to Parisi, sto Metro otan shmeiwnetai mia kloph h entopizetai enas klefths, amesws akoyte ta megafwna - -oxi ayto poy ginetai mono sto aerodromio poy lene koitajte tis aposkeyes na mhn sas klecoyn kai lene prosejte-- edw, an kai exw anaferei kai sto parelqon sygkekrimena peristatika, den yphrje tetoia anakoinwsh. Yparxei kapoios logos poy den ginetai anakoinwsh; Mh fobhqoyn oi epibates; Ti symbainei;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto armodio Ypoyrgeio, wste na sas enhmerwsoyn sxetika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa epanelqw kai pali sto qema twn politikwn eyqynwn kat eme, oxi kat esas, me aformh tis dhlwseis toy k. Kaklamanh xqes sth Boylh, o opoios anaferqhke sthn tripleta, qa elega twn Ypoyrgwn Doyka, Dry kai Fwtiadh poy afhse na ennohqei oti den exoyn eyqynh politikh gia to qema toy Batopaidioy kai stis shmerines dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy, o opoios eipe oti yparxoyn politikes eyqynes kai se Ypoyrgoys toy PASOK opws yparxoyn kai politikes eyqynes se Ypoyrgoys ths Neas Dhmokratias. Kai epeidh to lene istorika stelexh toy PASOK, poia einai h apoch sas gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy peri politikwn eyqynwn kai Ypoyrgwn toy PASOK.

ANTWNAROS: Diaforopoiei toys en logw kyrioys kati apo th boyleytikh idiothta thn opoia exoyn;

PALAIOLOGOS: O k. Pagkalos milaei, omws, gia politikes eyqynes Ypoyrgwn ths Neas Dhmokratias, alla kai toy PASOK.

ANTWNAROS: Profanws den egina antilhptos. Oi dyo kyrioi poy moy anaferate oti ekanan dhlwseis exoyn boyleytikh idiothta. Den exoyn;

PALAIOLOGOS: Bebaiws.

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhlwseis boyleytwn.

PALAIOLOGOS : Oyte toy PASOK;

ANTWNAROS: Akomh perissotero toy PASOK.

TERZHS: An epikalestw thn idiothta toy Antiproedroy ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs gia ton k. Dendia, qa qelhsete na sxoliasete thn apoch toy peri skandaloy;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws kai oxi.

TERZHS: Pantws moy kanei entypwsh poy h kybernhsh, poy eseis topoqethste gia to Batopaidio ws ``ypoqesh'', otan h koinh gnwmh exei hdh diamorfwmenh apoch gia skandalo, xwris aparaithtws na shmainei ayto oti sto skandalo emplekontai politika proswpa.

ANTWNAROS: H lejh poy xrhsimopoieite exei poiotika xarakthristika, ta opoia egw ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos den qelw na xrhsimopoihsw gia enan para poly aplo logo: Dioti egw epilegw na xrhsimopoiw mia oydeterh ekfrash gia ena qema poy bebaiws apasxolei thn koinh gnwmh. Xarakthrismoys, egw gi` ayta ta qemata den qa kanw.

DHMADHS: Epeidh den sxoliazete dhlwseis politikwn stelexwn ths eswterikhs politikhs skhnhs ...

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den einai akribes ayto. Egw sxoliazw kai topoqetoymai gia thn kybernhsh. Den sxoliazw ton opoiondhpote Ellhna polith poy leei diafora pragmata.

DHMADHS: Qa hqela na anaferqeite sth apofash ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs oson afora to paketo sthrijhs twn koinwnikwn strwmatwn me sygkekrimeno poso to opoio qa ektamieysei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Kata poson h ellhnikh kybernhsh, efoson exei brei ta 28 dis eyrw gia na sthrijei kai na enisxysei thn reystothta toy egxwrioy trapezikoy systhmatos, an protiqetai na ejasfalisei kai to poso ayto, to opoio ths systhnei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh na doqei prokeimenoy na enisxyqoyn koinwnika kai h katanalwsh kai oi katwteres kai asqenesteres oikonomikes koinwnikes tajeis.

ANTWNAROS: Prwton: Den ejeyreqh poso 28 dis. To megalytero meros aytoy toy posoy anaferetai se kratikes eggyhseis. Parakalw, loipon, na anatrejete se prohgoymenes ekteneis anakoinwseis poy exei kanei kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai egw, gia na plhroforhqeite peri tinos prokeitai. Deyteron: Gia to sygkekrimeno qema twn xqesinwn protasewn ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs poy akoma briskontai sto stadio ths epejergasias, dedomenoy oti qa syzhthqoyn prosexws sto ECOFIN kai katopin sto Eyrwpaiko Symboylio poy qa synelqei stis 11 kai 12 Dekembrioy stis Bryjelles, topoqethqhka xqes. O Prwqypoyrgos topoqethqhke molis pro oligoy, se sxetikh erwthsh poy toy egine, amesws meta tis synomilies me ton k. Xristofia. Den exw na prosqesw kati sth dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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