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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 3 Oktwbrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 162214687

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 3 Oktwbrioy 2008

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MPALHS: Dexeste th syggnwmh toy k. Dailakh h thn paraithsh toy;

ANTWNAROS: Ektimoyme thn kinhsh toy boyleyth k. Stayroy Dailakh. Ayth h kinhsh qa ejetastei.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: Pote;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Oxi, mhn mas to kobete etsi. Syggnwmh, otan o Prwqypoyrgos exei pei, mesw toy k. Tragakh, oti qelei thn paraithsh toy k. Dailakh, mporei na allajei dhladh h apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy meta apo ayth th sygnwmh;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h dhlwsh moy, opws thn ekana.

FOYRLHS: Qa mporoysate na dieykrinisete, ti shmainei qa ejetastei, me poia prooptikh dhladh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo.

ARMENHS: Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, kyrie Ekproswpe, me bash to skeptiko ths epistolhs toy, h Nea Dhmokratia qa exei 152 boyleytes, jana.

ANTWNAROS: Kanete profanws diapistwsh h sxolio...

ARMENHS: Zhtaw na symfwnhsete h oxi... Na moy peite an exw dikio h oxi.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw prosqesw kati.

KAKALHS: Karamanlhs h xaos, einai to dilhmma twn epomenwn eklogwn, symfwna me ton k. Stylianidh. Mporeite na mas anakoinwsete kai thn hmeromhnia;

ANTWNAROS: H apospasmatikh anafora edw, sthn aiqoysa ths enhmerwshs, se dyo analytikes synenteyjeis poy edwse o Ypoyrgos k. Stylianidhs se Mesa Enhmerwshs, dhmioyrgei entypwseis, xwris omws na apodidei to pragmatiko nohma kai to periexomeno oswn elexqhsan.

KAKALHS: Se ayth th frash; Amfisbhteite oti to eipe;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sto qema toy k. Dailakh pali: Mporeite na mas peite ti allaje kai o laos ths Dramas allaje gnwmh kai twra zhtaei apo ton k. Dailakh na paraithqei apo th boyleytikh toy edra;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena allo sxolio gi` ayto to qema.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, poso fronimo einai mia kybernhsh na kalliergei klima prowrwn eklogwn se mia periodo poy h dieqnhs xrhmatooikonomikh krish xtypa thn porta mas, alla kai ta noikokyria stenazoyn apo thn oikonomikh dyspragia; Ayth h politikh kai kybernhtikh astaqeia poy dhmioyrgeitai apo th fhmologia kai th filologia peri prowrwn eklogwn, den prokalei kai oikonomikh astaqeia;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den kalliergei kanena tetoio klima. Antiqeta malista, h kybernhsh kyberna ton topo me apotelesmatikothta, kaqws kai politikh kai oikonomikh staqerothta. Exei dedomenh pleiochfia sth Boylh, h opoia ths ejasfalizei th synexish toy metarryqmistikoy ths ergoy. Qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw, epeidh kanete anafora sth dieqnh oikonomikh katastash, krish opws thn eipate - -kai den qa diafwnhsw me th lejh thn opoia xrhsimopoihsate- - oti einai h shmerinh kybernhsh ekeinh poy kai dia stomatos Prwqypoyrgoy kai dia stomatos toy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai dia stomatos twn Kybernhtikwn Ekproswpwn se ayth edw thn aiqoysa, edw kai polloys mhnes, qymize to dyskolo oikonomiko periballon se dieqnes epipedo. Kai ekane anafores se ayto kai elege, ti synepagetai kai gia th xwra mas. Kai qa qymaste epishs oti ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs den hqelan na doyn ayto to klima. Den hqelan na doyn th dieqnh oikonomikh krish kai qa to pw eyqews: Epekrinan thn kybernhsh oti dhqen xrhsimopoioyse ayto to epixeirhma toy dieqnoys oikonomikoy periballontos ws prosxhma gia na akoloyqhsei mia sygkekrimenh oikonomikh politikh. Twra oloi diapistwnoyn, kaqysterhmena, ayto poy einai pasidhlo edw kai polloys mhnes. Kai kala qa kanoyn osoi ekleinan ta matia gia toso megalo xroniko diasthma, na paradexqoyn to sfalma toys, na paradexqoyn, qa elega kati parapanw, oti ola ayta ta ekanan gia logoys entypwsiasmoy kai mono.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, thn idia wra to PASOK sas kathgorei oti den exete kanei tipote gia thn ypoqesh ths Monhs Batopaidioy. Zhtaei na parete nomoqetikh prwtoboylia, na proxwrhsete parapera, na mh meinete stis opoies kinhseis exoyn ginei. Ti apantate;

ANTWNAROS: Gnwrizoyn oloi poly kala kai gnwrizete ki eseis edw poy parakoloyqeite thn enhmerwsh se ayth thn aiqoysa oti h kybernhsh, oloi emeis, exoyme kanei o,ti einai aparaithto kai o,ti einai nomika epitrepto, sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos kai ths isxyoysas nomoqesias, prokeimenoy na anastrafoyn ta apotelesmata ta opoia exoyn prokycei. Apotelesmata ta opoia - -ypenqymizw gia mia akomh fora, gia osoys kanoyn oti to jexnoyn- - einai aporroia triwn ypoyrgikwn apofasewn ths periodoy mexri to 2003, apo dyo yfypoyrgoys twn tote kybernhsewn toy PASOK, oi opoioi anegnwrisan ta sygkekrimena idiokthsiaka dikaiwmata. Kai oxi mono anegnwrisan, me tis apofaseis toys, ayta ta sygkekrimena idiokthsiaka dikaiwmata, alla metegracan kai aytes tis apofaseis, oloklhrwnontas, me ayto ton tropo, thn anagnwrish. Kai kati parapanw: Ton Ioynio toy 2003, egine prwtokollo paradoshs kai paralabhs twn en logw ektasewn apo th Monh Batopaidioy. Plhrhs oloklhrwsh.

Qa hqela twra na anaferqw se ayta poy exei kanei h kybernhsh, prokeimenoy na anastrafoyn ayta ta opoia eixan dromologhqei me tis apofaseis twn kybernhsewn toy PASOK. Prwton - -sas ypenqymizw- - ``pagwsame'' kaqe diadikasia ekteleshs twn sxetikwn dioikhtikwn prajewn. Deyteron, anapemfqhkan oles oi gnwmodothseis sto Gnwmodotiko Symboylio Dhmosiwn Kthmatwn. Triton, doqhke h entolh se oles tis dhmosies yphresies anejarthta, na parexoyn ston Eisaggelea poy dienergei thn ereyna, ola ta stoixeia, oles tis plhrofories poy xreiazontai oi Arxes, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsoyn thn ereyna toys. Tetarton, exei doqei se omada nomikwn h entolh na ereynhsei th dynatothta peraiterw nomikwn energeiwn sto plaisio toy nomoy kai toy Syntagmatos.

Pros to paron, ayta exw na pw. Qa hqela na tonisw epishs oti prokeitai gia ena poly synqeto nomiko zhthma. Prokeitai gia ena zhthma gia to opoio exoyn epelqei nomikes synepeies poy anaferontai kai se tritoys. Den endeiknyntai se ena tetoio qema proseggiseis me proxeirothta. H boylhsh ths kybernhshs einai - -kai to lew me ton pio jekaqaro, me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo- - na ejantlhqei kaqe meso poy qa einai symfwno me toys nomoys kai to Syntagma.

ARMENHS: Me sygxwreite, alla gia to PASOK ola ayta den eparkoyn. Zhtaei kati parapanw.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na diabasete prosektika osa eipa. Emeis den kanoyme kinhseis gia logoys entypwsiasmoy. Sas eipa: Se ena tetoio polyploko, dyskolo nomiko qema den xwrei kamia proxeirothta.

KAKALHS: Den diafwnw oti h ypoqesh olh ofeiletai sthn anagnwrish twn idiokthsiakwn dikaiwmatwn poy egine epi PASOK sth Monh, omws ayto egine me bash gnwmodothseis toy Nomikoy Symboylioy toy Kratoys, opws qymaste kai allwn kratikwn epitropwn, tis opoies o idios o k. Sanidas exei xarakthrisei diatrhtes. Ara, den einai eykolo gia thn kybernhsh pleon me mia nomoqetikh ryqmish na kaqarisei to qema;

ANTWNAROS: 'O,ti einai na ginei, qa ginei symfwna me toys nomoys kai to Syntagma. Den qa ypeiselqw, se kamia periptwsh, se idiaitera synqeta nomika zhthmata. Den lynontai ta qemata ayta, sas eipa, me thn proxeirothta poy kapoioi epideiknyoyn me dhqen prwtoboylies toys.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, katarxas, prohgoymena eipate ena meros ths alhqeias, den htan to synolo ths alhqeias, me thn ennoia oti oi apofaseis ekeines epi PASOK eixan enopoihqei. Yphrxe h ypoqesh, ekkremoyse sto dikasthrio kai ejwdikastiko symbibasmo ekanan oi ekproswpoi ths dikhs sas kybernhshs. Ena ayto. Kai deyteron, shmera yparxei mia protash nomoy toy PASOK. Giati den synennoeiste me to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, ean den sas aresei ayth h protash nomoy na th beltiwsete kai na proxwrhsoyme wste na teleiwnei h ypoqesh ayth.

ANTWNAROS: Molis xarakthrisa thn prwtoboylia toy PASOK sthn prohgoymenh apanthsh poy edwsa. Kai ayta ta opoia eipate eisagwgika, qa moy epitrecete na sas pw oti den antapokrinontai sta stoixeia poy sas edwsa egw eisagwgika ws apanthsh sthn prwth erwthsh toy k. Armenh.

FOYRLHS: Hqela mia dieykrinish. To Nomiko Symboylio, h Nomikh Epitroph, ap` o,ti katalaba, omada nomikwn eipate poy exei analabei na ejetasei tis peraiterw nomikes energeies sto plaisio toy nomoy kai toy Syntagmatos einai kapoia omada nomikwn anejarthtwn - -qelw na pw kaqhghtwn h kati tetoio- - h einai apo to Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys; Exete ypoch sas th leptomereia ayth;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw perissotera gi` ayto to qema ayth th stigmh.

FOYRLHS: Wraia. Kai to deytero poy qelw einai na epanelqw sta qemata ths oikonomias. Eipate prohgoymenws oti h kybernhsh proxwra me gnwmona na diasfalisei staqerothta sthn oikonomia...

ANTWNAROS: Staqerothta sthn oikonomia yparxei. Stoxos mas einai h synexish ths staqerothtas sthn oikonomia.

FOYRLHS: Loipon, diabazontas tis dhlwseis poy ekane o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias xqes, o opoios epishs apo thn pleyra toy diabebaiwse pws to ellhniko trapeziko systhma einai staqero, dierwtwmai giati tote h kybernhsh kai o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias aisqanetai thn anagkh na eggyhqei tis kataqeseis twn Ellhnwn kataqetwn h an den eystaqei kati tetoio. Kanw laqos;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa kanw kanena sxolio epi twn dhlwsewn, twn poly diafwtistikwn kai analytikwn dhlwsewn, poy ekane xqes o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias. Oi dhlwseis aytes lene to aytonohto, to fysiko. Qa hqela, omws, na sas ypenqymisw oti kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos treis fores sto teleytaio diasthma exei anaferqei sto sygkekrimeno qema. Exei anaferqei sto qema ths dieqnoys oikonomikhs krishs h opoia einai fysiko, to exw pei kai allh fora, na exei kapoies parenergeies, kapoies synepeies kai gia th xwra mas. H Ellada den einai ena nhsi sto dieqnes sterewma. Apo thn allh meria einai safes ayto poy eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias: To ellhniko trapeziko systhma einai staqero, einai asfales. Gi` ayto den prepei kaneis na exei kamia amfibolia.

FOYRLHS: (Den akoygetai) Dhladh, na sas th diatypwsw kai graptws.

ANTWNAROS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs ekane kai dhlwsh kai ap` o,ti jerw paraxwrhse kai mia synenteyjh xqes. Osa periexontai stis topoqethseis toy k. Alogoskoyfh einai apolytws jekaqara, einai apolytws diafwtistika, den afhnoyn kanena periqwrio amfibolias h parermhneias. Kanena apolytws.

FOYRLHS: Egw qelw na rwthsw kai eyqews thn kybernhsh, oxi ton k. Alogoskoyfh an yparxei zhthma eggyhsewn stis kataqeseis h oxi. An ejetazei ayto to endexomeno h kybernhsh na eggyhqei. Kai gia poio logo.

ANTWNAROS: Parapempw stis dhlwseis toy k. Alogoskoyfh.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Eidame, xqes, mia strofh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto koinwniko proswpo ths kybernhshs me thn ejaggelia kapoiwn metrwn gia toys oikonomika asqenesteroys. Qelw na rwthsw, ean h oikonomikh krish, oi synepeies oi opoies eperxontai, einai bebaio oti qa epitrecei sthn kybernhsh na dapanhsei, na diaqesei ta xrhmata poy proypotiqentai gia tis ejaggelies toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Ayto einai to ena. Kai to deytero einai, ean to diarkeias 20', 25' -15' opws me diorqwnei o synadelfos- htan arketo gia na fwtistoyn oles oi ptyxes ths dieqnoys oikonomikhs krishs se o,ti mas afora.

ANTWNAROS: H koinwnikh eyaisqhsia ths shmerinhs kybernhshs, h opoia epaneklexqhke prin apo ena xrono me thn pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn, prokeimenoy na synexisei to metarryqmistiko kai koinwniko ths ergo, einai dedomenh. Kai to lew ayto, giati kaqe metarryqmistiko ergo exei oysiastikes koinwnikes parametroys, wfelei thn koinwnia se para polloys tomeis. As anaferqw, omws, kai se sygkekrimena qemata. Den anakalyptei twra, opws endexomenws ypainixqhke h erwthsh sas, h shmerinh kybernhsh thn koinwnia. Proerxetai mesa apo ayth thn koinwnia kai dra pros ofelos ths koinwnias. Qa hqela na sas qymisw, gia mia akomh fora, oti einai h shmerinh kybernhsh ekeinh poy ayjhse to aforologhto, apo to opoio wfeloyntai kyriws oi xamhlomisqoi kai oi xamhlosyntajioyxoi, kata 20%. Einai ekeinh h opoia ekane tis paroxes gia to LAFKA se ola ta epipeda. Einai ekeinh h opoia efere tis ryqmiseis apo tis opoies wfeloyntai peripoy 120.000 triteknes oikogeneies. Sas eipa tria mono systatika stoixeia kai ayta ta opoia anaferqhkan gia to Tameio Koinwnikhs Synoxhs, kaqws kai oi alles prwtoboylies oi opoies jediplwnontai, apoteloyn proeklogikes kai kybernhtikes mas desmeyseis. Apoteloyn ylopoihsh olwn ekeinwn gia ta opoia kai h kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos exoyn desmeyqei. Den yparxei, loipon, kanenas logos na dinetai h entypwsh oti ayto einai kati jekommeno, kati apospasmatiko, kati to opoio den exei sxesh me to synoliko programma ayths ths kybernhshs. Kai me th swfrona diaxeirish thn opoia kanoyme twn xrhmatwn toy Ellhna forologoymenoy, sas diabebaiwnw oti qa yparjoyn oi poroi poy apaitoyntai, prokeimenoy na xrhmatodothqoyn oles aytes oi prwtoboylies.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete eseis proswpika h h kybernhsh plhrofories oti mporei na yparjei kapoio neo xtyphma kata ths kybernhshs apo boyleyth ths Neas Dhmokratias entos ths hmeras;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw se ti anafereste.

PALAIOLOGOS: An exete plhrofories, an exoyn perielqei se esas plhrofories oti yparxei boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias, o opoios exei anaferqei hdh se synenteyjh toy epikritika kata ths kybernhshs, yperbainontas, qa legame, ton phxy poy eixe qesei o Prwqypoyrgos sthn Kentrikh Epitroph.

ANTWNAROS: Den asxoloymai me senaria.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ara, den yparxei. To diaceydete. Ayto qelw na pw.

ANTWNAROS: Den asxoloymai me senaria.

FANIDHS: O Prwqypoyrgos, gia mia akomh fora, zhthse apo toys ypoyrgoys toy na anoijoyn tis portes se boyleytes kai polites. Epeidh, omws, to exei pei kai alles fores, alla den exei ginei apo kapoioys ypoyrgoys, mhpws ayth th fora exei apofasisei na timwrhsei ekeinoys oi opoioi den qa thrhsoyn thn entolh toy;

ANTWNAROS: Sas exw pei oti h prospaqeia se oloys toys tomeis einai diarkhs.

FOYRLHS: Jerw oti den qelete na sxoliasete epi ths oysias thn epistolh toy k. Dailakh, ara den mpainw ston kopo na sas rwthsw gia to gegonos oti den blepw na aposyrei kati apo ayta poy exei pei, alla aplws leei oti den eixe proqesh na prosballei kanenan me ayta poy eipe. Omws, epi ths arxhs, h kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos aisqanontai oti ayth h ejelijh enisxyei thn eikona sobarothtas poy prepei na exei mia kybernhsh, me boyleytes oi opoioi lene diafora pragmata, diagrafontai, meta zhtoyn syggnwmh kai epanerxontai;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena apolytws sxolio gia to periexomeno ths en logw epistolhs. Sas ypenqymizw, omws, oti oi Ellhnes polites - -kai to epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora- - prin apo molis ena xrono edwsan gia deyterh fora thn empistosynh toys sto komma ths Neas Dhmokratias kai ston Kwsta Karamanlh poy hgeitai ths shmerinhs kybernhshs, na kybernhsei th xwra gia alla tessera xronia.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Den sas rwtaei, k. Ekproswpe, gia to periexomeno, gia th diadikasia sas rwtaei.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Exoyn, an gnwrizete na mas peite, kleisei oles oi ekkremothtes poy aforoyn enstaseis epi twn eklogwn toy 2007 sto Eklogodikeio; Gnwrizete na mas peite;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai qema nomiko. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa gnwrizoyme syntoma, dhladh shmera as poyme, gia to ti qa ginei me ton k. Dailakh; Qa apofasisei o Prwqypoyrgos shmera;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo.

KAKALHS: Epeidh, opws eipate, h kybernhsh zei mesa sto lao, mporeite na mas peite to nohma ths xqesinhs odhgias poy apeyqyne o Prwqypoyrgos stoys ypoyrgoys na skycoyn sta problhmata poy shmera kaine toys polites, anaferontas sygkekrimena akribeia, anergia, poiothta zwhs, kalyteres spoydes k.t.l.; Tosa xronia ypotiqetai den eskyban panw sta problhmata, den ta parakoloyqoysan; Ayto einai to prwto. Kai deyteron, an skycoyn panw sto problhma ths akribeias, oi ypoyrgoi ti qa parakoloyqhsoyn; Tis times sta rafia na anebainoyn anenoxlhtes;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei analabei sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies, oi opoies, opws gnwrizete, apodidoyn. Exoyn sygkekrimena apotelesmata kai ayta oi polites ta katagrafoyn. Einai fysiko o Prwqypoyrgos na qelei na anaferqei se sygkekrimena qemata, ta opoia einai yparkta. Kaneis apo emas den isxyristhke oti ta problhmata lyqhkan h mporei na lyqoyn apo th mia hmera sthn allh. Sas ypenqymizw, omws, epeidh anaferqhkate kai sto qema ths Paideias, oti me th metarryqmish thn opoia apofasise h ellhnikh Boylh meta apo prwtoboylia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, anoigoyn kainoyrgioi dromoi gia ta paidia olwn mas, gia kalyteres spoydes.

KAKALHS: Lyqhke to problhma. Giati anaferqhke o Prwqypoyrgos;

ANTWNAROS: Yparxoyn polles parametroi se ena qema. Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn kai alla qemata sto xwro ths Paideias, ta opoia epishs qa ginoyn antikeimeno meleths kai qa doqoyn oi endedeigmenes, oi kalyteres dynates lyseis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh polla akoysthkan gia diafora geymata, synanthseis boyleytwn, ypoyrgwn me boyleytes, h kybernhsh elabe mesw toy k. Soyflia, toy eidikoy diamesolabhth ths, th diabebaiwsh apo ton k. Tatoylh oti qa sthrijei thn kybernhsh kai tis nomoqetikes prwtoboylies ths;

ANTWNAROS: Den topoqetoymai se tetoia qemata kai to gnwrizete. Ola ayta sta opoia anaferqhkate eisagwgika, exoyn sxesh - -mono oi oroi poy xrhsimopoihsate- - me thn parapolitikh. Egw topoqetoymai se qemata politikhs kai oxi se menoy geymatwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Einai parapolitikh (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Den ennooysa ayto. Ennooysa ola ayta ta opoia anaferate eisagwgika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egine mia synanthsh metajy toy k. Soyflia kai toy k. Tatoylh. Egine ypo to fws ths dhmosiothtas. Einai gnwsto oti o k. Tatoylhs exei sygkekrimenes apoceis. Einai gnwsto oti o Prwqypoyrgos sthn Kentrikh Epitroph erije to ganti stoys antartes na ton rijoyn eyqews kai na ton amfisbhthsoyn eyqews. Kai anarwtiemai, elabe eggyhseis o k. Soyflias apo ton k. Tatoylh oti den yparjei tetoio qema;

ANTWNAROS: An qelei o ypoyrgos k. Soyflias, me th megalh peira poy ton diakrinei, na pei kati dhmosia, qa to pei.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh eggyatai dia stomatos k. Alogoskoyfh to trapeziko systhma gia thn asfaleia toy. Den exw akoysei, omws, kati gia to systhma koinwnikhs asfalishs kai ta Tameia ta opoia, symfwna me kapoies ektimhseis, exoyn ypostei zhmies 1,8 dis eyrw mesa se ena xrono. Ayto, afenos epalhqeyei h kybernhsh; Kai deyteron, ti metra qa parei;

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, den gnwrizete kai qa prepei na sas to ypenqymisw oti to kratos eggyatai thn plhrwmh olwn twn syntajewn kai olwn twn sxetikwn bohqhmatwn. Ayto ta leei ola.

KAKALHS: Allo oi syntajeis kai allo to systhma koinwnikhs asfalishs.

GARGALAKOS: To geyma ergasias poy eixan o k. Soyflias kai h k. Mpakogiannh, to qewreite oti bohqa sth staqeropoihsh thn kybernhtikh;

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw synanthseis metajy ypoyrgwn. Oi synanthseis aytes einai synhqeis.

GARGALAKOS: Antallassoyn problhmatismo, omws, apo o,ti fainetai gia thn katastash poy epikratei se epipedo kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti oi synanthseis metajy ypoyrgwn, sas diabebaiw, einai synhqeis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ejakoloyqeite na qewreite tis synanthseis aytes parapolitikh, akomh kai an einai synanthseis ypoyrgwn;

ANTWNAROS: Epimenete...

PALAIOLOGOS: Kanate xarakthrismo, me olo to qarros, gi` ayto kai epimenw.

ANTWNAROS: Parapolitika sas eipa, gia toys oroys toys opoioys xrhsimopoihsate. Parakalw na anatrejete sto keimeno gia na diapistwsete ti akribws eipa.

PALAIOLOGOS: Jerw ti eipa. Alimono! Egw lew, an epimenete eseis...

ANTWNAROS: Milhsate gia geymata, synaqroiseis k.t.l. Ayta ola ta qewrw parapolitika. Den einai qema politikhs, den einai antikeimeno ths enhmerwshs apo ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo.

PALAIOLOGOS: Einai endeiktiko ths anhsyxias poy yparxei stis tajeis ths kybernhshs;

ANTWNAROS: Enapokeitai se sas, an qelete na to sxoliasete. Ekeino to opoio jerw egw einai oti h kybernhsh leitoyrgei sto plaisio twn kaqhkontwn ths me koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia, h opoia einai pera apo opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh kai stoxo exei enan kai mono: Na proxwrhsei, na paei th xwra mprosta, kanontas prajh to metarryqmistiko ergo gia to opoio exei desmeyqei. Aytos einai o stoxos kai se ayton symballoyn ola anejairetws ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, sto xwro ths politikhs einai kai to ycos toy epidomatos qermanshs. Me dedomeno oti fetos to petrelaio qermanshs qa pwleitai sta 84 lepta to litro, ayjhmeno kata 29%, pote qa anakoinwsete to ycos toy epidomatos qermanshs kai se poioys qa dianemhqei;

ANTWNAROS: Otan einai etoimh h sxetikh anakoinwsh, qa to plhroforhqeite.

KAKALHS: Perissotero safhs;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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