Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-09-24

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 24 Septembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 160433789

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 24 Septembrioy 2008

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs synantatai, ayth thn wra, me ton Proedro ths Italikhs Dhmokratias k. Tzortzio Napolitano. To gnwrizete, exei anakoinwqei apo xqes.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, toso eseis, oso kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos, exete epaneilhmmenws ekfrasei thn ameristh empistosynh sas sthn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh. Parallhla, exete epiteqei polles fores enantion toy PASOK, to opoio systhmatika kaqybrizei dikastikoys leitoyrgoys. Xqes omws se ayth thn atyph, as thn poyme, grammh PASOK kata ths Dikaiosynhs, prosteqhke kai o prwhn atypos symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai koryfaio stelexos ths Neas Dhmokratias, k. Giannhs Kefalogiannhs. Eseis shmera eiste etoimos na katadikasete isws thn pio sklhrh ybristikh epiqesh poy dexqhke pote h ellhnikh Dikaiosynh apo stelexos ths kybernwsas paratajhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai atyph h grammh toy PASOK. Einai kaqara typikh kai problecimh. Gnwrizete oti epi xronia -eite einai sthn kybernhsh eite sthn antipoliteysh- analogws me to an qewrei pws to symferei mia apofash ths Dikaiosynhs, epitiqetai h yperamynetai ayths. Emeis eimaste kai paramenoyme staqeroi sthn apoch mas. Den sxoliazoyme apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs.

KAKALHS: De sxoliasate, omws epishs, kai tis apoceis toy k. Kefalogiannh, den jekaqarisate mallon an tis yioqetei h kybernhsh, otan milaei gia ``sthmenh dikh'', gia apofash ``poy plhttei to kyros ths Dikaiosynhs'', gia ``anekdihghto Eisaggelea''. Ola ayta ta yioqetei h kybernhsh, giati h anakoinwsh poy bghke apo to prwqypoyrgiko grafeio xqes, den topoqeteitai, den apodokimazei kan ayta kai afhnei na ennohqei mallon, prosdoka...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa to epanalabw, giati fainetai oti den egine katanohto, par` oti to exw pei polles fores: Emeis den epitiqemeqa sth Dikaiosynh, den sxoliazoyme apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs. H stash mas ayth einai stash eyqynhs, epi seiran etwn. Den thn allazoyme kai den qa thn allajoyme.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sas anhsyxoyn oi epiptwseis poy exoyme apo thn apergiakh kinhtopoihsh twn telwneiakwn kai ti skeftetai na kanei h kybernhsh gia na antimetwpistei ayth h katastash;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi epiptwseis ontws yparxoyn kai einai shmantikes. Ekeino to opoio syzhtoyn ta synarmodia ypoyrgeia einai na breqei mia lysh, etsi wste na mh synexisoyn aytes oi epiptwseis na einai eis baros ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Se kaqe periptwsh, kaloyme oloys toys symmetexontes na analogistoyn th zhmia, thn opoia me ayth thn energeia toys  sebomaste tis apergies kai tis kinhtopoihseis kai th diaforetikh apoch- prokaloyn.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Exw akoysei para polles fores to teleytaio xroniko diasthma aploys anqrwpoys na dhlwnoyn ekplhktoi gia to oti kaqhmerina ginetai kai mia apokalych, entos h ektos eisagwgikwn, h opoia emplekei, pali entos h ektos eisagwgikwn, gia na mhn parejhghqoyme, ena stelexos ths kybernwsas paratajhs, kapoy. Ayto poy rwtane para polloi anqrwpoi, toylaxiston me toys opoioys syzhtaw egw, aploi anqrwpoi, ektos toy kyklwmatos toy dikoy mas, einai to ejhs: O Karamanlhs telika plhrwnei thn ellhnorwsikh proseggish, alles symfwnies poy piqanon na mhn aresan se alloys; Giati, jerete, yparxei mia aporia: Den mporei to Batopaidio na egine gnwsto twra, efoson ``paizei'' apo paliotera. H den mporei o k. Boylgarakhs na egine idiokthths EPE h otidhpote allo ton perasmeno Septembrio h prin apo liges hmeres. Ejhgeite kapws eseis, ws kaqhmerinos anqrwpos kai ws politikos, thn kataigida ayth twn apokalycewn, entos h ektos eisagwgikwn gia na mhn parejhghqw, kaqhmerina, twra kai oxi paliotera kai oxi meta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epitrecte moy na mhn ypeiselqw sth senariologia kai ws ek toytoy, na mhn kanw kanena sxolio.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Nai, alla aplws metefera apories ths koinwnias poy profanws tis akoyte kai eseis. Kai lene malista oti den einai dynaton h dhmoskophsh, gia paradeigma, mias etaireias, na bgazei ena komma mprosta dyo ebdomades prin kai to idio komma katarrakwmeno dyo ebdomades meta. Apantate kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa epanalabw thn idia apanthsh. Qa prosqesw oti gia tis dhmoskophseis, thn exw ekfrasei thn apoch moy para polles fores kai den qa thn allajw.

XIWTHS: Akoysa prohgoymenws thn apanthsh poy dwsate gia thn apergia twn telwneiakwn ypallhlwn, alla akoygontas to prwi kai ekproswpoys twn telwneiakwn ypallhlwn lene akribws to idio: Na analogistei h kybernhsh ti zhmia prokalei stoys polites otan mas anagkazei na aperghsoyme. Erwtw, loipon, kyrie Ypoyrge, an h kybernhsh meleta to endexomeno na mhn efarmosei thn apofash ayth poy exei gia na allajei o tropos katabolhs twn yperwriwn stoys telwneiakoys ypallhloys me dedomeno oti kai alles fores sto prosfato parelqon h kybernhsh dexqhke telika aithmata h apergwn h en pash periptwsei koinwnikwn omadwn poy qewroysan oti plhttontai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa pw kati perissotero. Qa syzhthsw kai me to armodio ypoyrgeio kai an exw kati perissotero, qa sas enhmerwsw ayrio.

GALIATSATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate prohgoymenws oti eimaste staqeroi stis apoceis mas kai den sxoliazoyme tis apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs. Tis dhlwseis toy k. Kefalogiannh gia th Dikaiosynh qa tis sxoliasete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eipa mono oti den sxoliazoyme tis apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs. Eipa oti emeis genikws exoyme mia sygkekrimenh stash apenanti sth Dikaiosynh. Ayth th stash, nomizw oti thn exete ektimhsei se para polles periptwseis. Isxyei apolytws kai twra.

KAKALHS: Epeidh xqes kayxhqhkate gia tis proodoys poy kanate ston tomea ths diafaneias, mporeite na mas peite pote qa maqei o ellhnikos laos posa akinhta toy Dhmosioy exoyn antallagei ta teleytaia xronia me th Monh Batopaidioy; Kai an alhqeyoyn oi plhrofories oti ta stoixeia yparxoyn sto prwqypoyrgiko grafeio, apo thn KED, thn yphresia ayth toy Dhmosioy, kai den dinontai sth dhmosiothta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prwton, gnwrizete poly kala, oti apo thn prwth stigmh h kybernhsh proxwrhse se mia seira apo energeies. Oi energeies aytes htan na pagwsoyn oles oi diadikasies. Deyteron, gnwrizete poly kala oti to qema einai hdh sth Dikaiosynh. Triton, gnwrizete poly kala oti o armodios ypoyrgos exei zhthsei apo to Nomiko Symboylio toy Kratoys na epanejetasei tis gnwmodothseis. Tetarton, se aytes tis periptwseis, ekeino to opoio proexei einai h Dikaiosynh na mporesei na kanei anempodista to ergo ths kai na paroysiasei ola ta stoixeia. Sas qymizw oti milame gia mia ypoqesh poy jekinhse bebaiws epi twn kybernhsewn PASOK, otan katoxyrwqhke h perioysia sth Monh. Sas qymizw oti epi twn hmerwn ths Neas Dhmokratias h ypoqesh ayth exei parei to dromo ths Dikaiosynhs.

KAKALHS: Me stoixeia ths yphresias toy Dhmosioy...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opoia stoixeia zhtoyn oi armodioi eisaggeleis, ta lambanoyn apo tis armodies yphresies. Ayth einai oxi aplws proqesh, alla epibeblhmenh kinhsh thn opoia se oles tis antistoixes periptwseis sto parelqon exoyme kanei kai qa synexisoyme na kanoyme.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: O prwhn yfypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajews k. Xrhstos Markogiannakhs, an qymamai kala, ekparaqyrwqhke sxedon apo to kybernhtiko sxhma otan bghke ston aera kapoia apoch poy diatypwse gia ton dikastiko k. Lino. Tote, loipon, eixame na kanoyme me ena proion ypoklophs, elege o tote yfypoyrgos, to opoio omws ton odhghse ektos kybernhshs. H anoixth kai eyqeia topoqethsh toy k. Kefalogiannh, meta th xqesinh dikastikh apofash qa einai ikanh toylaxiston na toy sterhsei thn kommatikh idiothta sth Nea Dhmokratia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na kanw kamia allh dhlwsh gia to qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, me aformh ta eswkommatika maxairwmata, ta endokybernhtika, syntrofika maxairwmata sth Nea Dhmokratia kai sthn kybernhsh, tis antiparaqeseis ypoyrgwn, exete thn aisqhsh oti o Prwqypoyrgos poy ta blepei ola ayta, ta parakoloyqei ws paidonomos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Moy zhtate jana na kanw dhlwsh epi aisqhsewn. Exw apanthsei para polles fores ayto sto parelqon kai qa meinw sto idio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh, den qewreite... Den lew, den epikaloymai reportaz (den akoygetai)...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akoyste, den qa pw ti qewrw kai ti den qewrw. Qa sas pw oti den qa apanthsw se mia tetoia erwthsh.

KAKALHS: Pantws, mporeite na apanthsete an yparxei kapoia ektimhsh sthn kybernhsh oti yparxei kapoia krish, kapoia dyskolh stigmh; Pws ejhgeite th ragdaia fqora ths kybernhshs; Se ayto mporeite na dwsete kapoia apanthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw poy anafereste. An milate gia tis dhmoskophseis, exw dwsei apanthsh. Profanws, ekei anafereste.

KAKALHS: Genikotera gia to klima poy yparxei, lew egw kai to eswkommatiko kai eyrytera.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To shmantiko sth shmerinh epoxh einai mia kybernhsh xwris yposxesiologies -opws blepoyme apo thn pleyra ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs- alla me pragmatiko ergo, to opoio diapistwnei kaqenas kaqhmerina, wste na mporei na antimetwpisei ta problhmata. Aytos einai o dikos mas o stoxos. Apo ekei kai pera, gia ta eswkommatika zhthmata ths Neas Dhmokratias, gia tis opoies diaforetikes apoceis, den prokeitai na topoqethqw ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos. Meqayrio, exoyme Kentrikh Epitroph. Einai bebaio oti ta stelexh qa ekfrastoyn eleyqera.

KOTTARIDHS: O k. Cwmiadhs to prwi, milwntas ston ANT-1, ejefrase thn ektimhsh -bebaia, mporei na thn allajei pente-eji fores mexri to apogeyma thn ektimhsh ayth- oti qa prepei na dieykolynete ton Prwqypoyrgo, profanws apoxwrwntas apo th qesh sas. Exete kapoio sxolio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanena.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa prosejw sthn erwthsh moy na mhn anaferw th frash thn perifhmh peri aisqhsewn...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa pate stis paraisqhseis, twra.

PALAILOGOS: Etsi akribws! Exete, estw, tis plhrofories h anhsyxeite gia to endexomeno na yparjoyn diarroes boyleytwn ths Neas Dhmokratias pros thn pleyra toy kommatos toy Karatzaferh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, thn Paraskeyh sthn Kentrikh Epitroph ths Neas Dhmokratias, o Prwqypoyrgos qa katsei mexri teloys gia na akoysei ta parapona twn boyleytwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti kanei se oles tis Kentrikes Epitropes. To exete diapistwsei, afoy eiste ekei.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Thn Paraskeyh, sth synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs, eseis qa pate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den perimenete mexri thn Paraskeyh;

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Eseis qa pate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eimai melos ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs, ws boyleyths.

KAKALHS: To endexomeno na eyqynetai gia th ragdaia fqora ths kybernhshs h politikh poy efarmozei, poy opws leme paragei perissoterh ftwxeia gia toys polloys kai perissotero ployto gia toys ligoys, exei apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayth einai mia dikh sas proseggish, thn opoia den symmerizomai, gia mia akomh fora.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh parathreitai stis tajeis twn ypoyrgwn mia idiaitera ayjanomenh anhsyxia gia tis pragmatikes proqeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy, enocei ths synedriashs ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs, na anamenoyme kati, ws prwtoboylia ek meroys toy Prwqypoyrgoy, prin apo th synedriash;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Paroti -epanalambanw- den milw apo ayto to bhma gia ta kommatika qemata, einai mia synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs sthn opoia qa akoystoyn oi apoceis twn melwn ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw den anaferomai sth synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs. Egw anaferomai stis prwtoboylies toy Prwqypoyrgoy, prokeimenoy na kaqhsyxastoyn, na diaskedastoyn oi anhsyxies koryfaiwn ypoyrgwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws eidate, den sas exw anakoinwsei kati gia ayrio. Ara, loipon, den yparxei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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