Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-07-21

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 21 Ioylioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 149436312

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 21 Ioylioy 2008

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio, stis 11:00, synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela na rwthsw, pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh thn kinhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy twn Skopiwn Nikola Gkroyefski na aposteilei epistolh pros ton k. Mparozo, emmenontas oysiastika stis proklhtikes toy anafores peri dhqen ``makedonikhs'' meionothtas sth xwra mas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei doqei apanthsh apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, safhs, aysthrh, istorika katagegrammenh. Den exw na pw tipota perissotero.

KAKALHS: Pws apantate sto PASOK poy dhlwnei oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa eprepe na eixe agnohsei thn epistolh toy Gkroyefski;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka thn perasmenh ebdomada. Hsastan parwn. Exw apanthsei dyo fores se ayth thn erwthsh.

KAKALHS: Epanhlqe. Me thn ennoia ayth to lew.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa epanalabw thn apanthsh moy. Isxyei.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sas problhmatizei to apotelesma poy kategrace dhmoskophsh gia endexomenh synergasia PASOK  SYRIZA, enw kai o proedros toy LAOS, emmesws plhn safws, kalese th Nea Dhmokratia na synergastei mazi toy. Poia einai h apanthsh sas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Katarxas, den yparxei qema eklogwn. Deyteron, h Nea Dhmokratia  to gnwrizete poly kala ayto- pisteyei stis aytodynames kybernhseis kai me aytodynamia synexizei na kyberna ton topo, kanontas pragmatikothta tis desmeyseis tis opoies elabe proeklogika, kai to 2004 kai to 2007. Ta ypoloipa prepei na ta rwthsete se alla kommata.

KALARITHS: Sxetika me thn anaqewrhsh twn stoixeiwn toy Proypologismoy poy mas zhtaei h EUROSTAT, na enswmatwqoyn kai ta xreh twn nosokomeiwn, yparxei kapoio sxolio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kapoio sxolio. Qa synennohqw me to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Den eimai proxeiros na dwsw kapoia apanthsh twra.

PALAIOLOGOS: Egw qa epanelqw sto qema ths epistolhs toy k. Gkroyefski, giati einai h deyterh fora poy kanei ayth thn kinhsh kai thn kanei pros ton k. Mparozo, se mia prospaqeia, an den kanw laqos, kata thn ektimhsh moy, na apokthsei ereismata sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Ayto shmainei oti qelei na mpei se enan dialogo, eite emmesws, mesw ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, eite eyqews me thn Ellada, opws edeije h prohgoymenh epistolh toy pros ton Prwqypoyrgo k. Karamanlh. Ayto shmainei oti mporei telika h kinhsh toy na brei antapokrish apo thn pleyra ths Elladas, efoson hdh o k. Karamanlhs apanthse sthn prwth epistolh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O dialogos, opws gnwrizete, ginetai sto plaisio toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn, me ena kai monadiko qema poy xwrizei tis dyo xwres: To qema toy onomatos. Tipote allo.

XIWTHS: Dhmosiografikes plhrofories poy katagrafontai shmera se dhmosieymata anaferoyn oti einai piqanon h kybernhsh na mhn proteinei ton k. Boyrloymh gia th qesh toy proedroy toy enopoihmenoy pleon OTE sthn koinoprajia poy exei kanei me thn DEUTSCHE TELEKOM. Isxyoyn ayta ta dhmosieymata; Isxyoyn aytes oi plhrofories;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exei ginei kan syzhthsh gia to qema. Den yparxei tetoio zhthma.

KAKALHS: Na epanelqw sto qema ths ypoqeshs ths onomasias twn Skopiwn. Eimaste konta, poly konta se lysh gia to qema, dhlwnei shmera o bohqos Yfypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Mat Mpraiza ston ``ELEYQERO TYPO''. Isxyei ontws kati tetoio; Qa maqoyme dhladh apo toys Amerikanoys endexomenh symfwnia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan exw na sas pw kati, na eiste bebaios oti qa to maqete prwtoi eseis.

KAKALHS: Alla maqainoyme alla apo toys Amerikanoys. Eimaste poly konta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Dialejte poia apanthsh qa krathsete.

MELIGKWNHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qewreite epoikodomhtikh th stash twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn, dedomenoy oti ston ``ELEYQERO TYPO'' o k. Mpraiza den emplekei to qema ths makedonikhs meionothtas kai leei oti to mono qema einai to onoma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa milhsw genika gia thn politikh. Qewrw epoikodomhtikh kaqe prospaqeia poy ginetai -kai oxi me aformh th shmerinh synenteyjh- sthn kateyqynsh epilyshs toy zhthmatos poy yparxei metajy twn dyo xwrwn, dhladh toy zhthmatos ths onomasias. Opoiadhpote xwra, opoia xwra symmaxos eite sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, eite oi Hnwmenes Politeies -opws exw epanalabei se ayth thn aiqoysa, toylaxiston dyo fores akoma- bohqa sthn kateyqynsh ayth, einai kalodexoymenh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayto shmainei oti afhnete anoikto to endexomeno na zhthsete parembash apo trito paragonta, endexomenws apo tis Hnwmenes Politeies gia thn epilysh ayth.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Asxoleiste me ta qemata ayta para poly kairo kai nomizw oti ta gnwrizoyme ejisoy kala h toylaxiston ta qymomaste ejisoy kala. Sas qymizw, loipon, ean jexasthke, oti moy eixe ypoblhqei sxetikh erwthsh, ligo prin to Boykoyresti -alla kai meta to Boykoyresti- me aformh synanthseis stis opoies symmeteixan kai Amerikanoi ajiwmatoyxoi. H apanthsh isxyei.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, oxi an qa protaqei o k. Boyrloymhs, isxyoyn omws ta osa gnwrizoyme; Qa parameinei sth dioikhsh toy OTE kata to metabatiko stadio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Boyrloymhs einai sth dioikhsh toy OTE. Dhladh, den yparxei kapoio problhma.

KAKALHS: Exete kapoio neo apo to metwpo kata ths akribeias poy dinei h kybernhsh, giati apo o,ti blepoyme sta gkalop, den antilambanetai ta apotelesmata o ellhnikos laos. Paramenei to problhma gia th megalh pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To problhma ths akribeias einai ontws problhma gia th megalh pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy, opws einai problhma gia th megalh pleiochfia twn politwn toy dytikoy kosmoy, idiaitera meta th jefrenh poreia toy petrelaioy kai twn petrelaioeidwn. Kai yparxoyn kai alloi logoi, toys opoioys exoyme epanalabei polles fores se ayth thn aiqoysa. Den qa toys epanalabw kai shmera.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, menete stis diapistwseis, oson afora thn antimetwpish, oti yparxei problhma akribeias; To ti kanei h kybernhsh rwthsa egw.

MELIGKWNHS: H analysh ths kybernhshs einai oti h epistolh toy k. Gkroyefski ston k. Mparozo einai mia apanthsh sthn prosfath eyrwpaikh apofash na qesei thn epilysh ths onomasias ws proypoqesh ths entajiakhs poreias ths geitonikhs xwras;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa kanw sxolia gia thn epistolh toy k. Gkroyefski. Ta sxolia, eidika gia to qema, ta exei kanei o Prwqypoyrgos sthn epistolh toy. Emeis, gnwrizete poly kala, oti exoyme mia qesh syneph enanti ths dieqnoys Koinothtas kai twn Organismwn eite einai h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, eite einai to NATO kai se ayth paramenoyme. Elpizoyme kai prosdokoyme oti o k. Gkroyefski kai oi kybernwntes sth geitonikh xwra na syneidhtopoihsoyn thn istorikh shmasia poy qa eixe h proseleysh me epoikodomhtiko tropo sto dialogo poy ginetai sto plaisio toy Organismoy Hnwmenwn Eqnwn.

XIWTHS: Gia to qema toy k. Boyrloymh kai pali. Qewreite abasimes tis apoceis poy ekfrazontai oti o Proedros toy OTE den mporei na paramenei sth qesh toy apo th stigmh poy yparxei mia dikastikh ereyna se baros toy dioikhtikoy symboylioy toy OTE kai synepws kai se baros toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi apoceis ekfrazontai eleyqera apo polles pleyres kai sigoyra ekfrazontai kai apo politika kommata, exontas pisw toys mia poly sygkekrimenh politikh skopimothta. Epitrecte moy na mh sxoliasw thn kaqe apoch poy ekfrazetai. Yparxei apo th mia pleyra h apoch, apo thn allh pleyra yparxei ayto poy symbainei. To gegonos einai oti oi apanthseis poy edwsa se dyo erwthmata exoyn kalycei synolika to qema Boyrloymh. Den exw na prosqesw tipote perissotero.

XIWTHS: Den sas zhthsa na tis sxoliasete, sas rwthsa an tis qewreite basimes h oxi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti einai ayto akribws; Den einai sxolio ayto poy moy (zhtate) lete; Den qa pw tipote perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia to qema toy k. Boyrloymh. Epeidh eipate prohgoymenws oti mporei na ekfrazontai apoceis oi opoies na enexoyn politikh skopimothta, ayto mporei na einai katanohto, efoson ekfrazontai apo thn pleyra toy PASOK kai twn kommatwn ths Aristeras. Otan, omws, ekfrazontai apo boyleytes ths Nea Dhmokratias kai malista kata koron to teleytaio diasthma, as poyme me prwtagwnisth ton k. Giannh Manwlh h kai alloys boyleytes kai oi opoies einai ojytates kai einai aixmhres, oxi mono pros to proswpo toy k. Boyrloymh, alla kai pros to proswpo toy k. Alogoskoyfh. Ayth h kritikh einai kalodexoymenh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai politikh apoch.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe thn Paraskeyh, oti h enisxysh pros toys oikonomika asqenesteroys qa kineitai sta oria antoxhs toy Proypologismoy. Me dedomeno oti o Proypologismos den paei kaqoloy kala, paroysiazei hdh ``mayrh trypa'' 1,8 dis eyrw, to prwto tetramhno, pentamhno. Prografete dhladh akoma kai ta cixoyla poy htan na dwsete gia to Tameio kata ths Ftwxeias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai toso kontino to diasthma poy nomizw oti den yparxei logos na protrexei kapoios kai na blepei ta pragmata etsi opws diatypwnontai sthn erwthsh sas. Se kaqe periptwsh, sas qymizw oti enas Proypologismos ekteleitai sth diarkeia toy dwdekamhnoy kai briskomaste molis ston ebdomo mhna.

KAKALHS: Exete prosdokies oti mporei na kleisei to elleimma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den xreiazetai na prosqesw tipote perissotero. Einai dyskolh h katastash. Kai epanalambanw oti einai dyskolh dieqnws h oikonomikh katastash. Tis aities tis gnwrizoyme oloi. H prospaqeia poy ginetai einai na ayjhqoyn ta esoda, dhladh na thrhqoyn oi probleceis poy yparxoyn ston Proypologismo. Prospaqeia ginetai na meiwqoyn oi dapanes sto metro toy dynatoy, etsi opws exoyn problefqei ston Proypologismo. Na proxwrhsoyn oi megales metarryqmiseis, ta megala erga ekeina ta opoia oysiastika bohqoyn sthn meiwsh ths anergias, sthn ayjhsh toy ryqmoy anaptyjhs, sth diathrhsh enos kaloy ryqmoy anaptyjhs.

KATSIGIANNHS: Sto plaisio ths ayjhshs twn esodwn yparxei h ejetash apo thn kybernhsh gia ryqmish xrewn pros thn eforia, gia xiliades polites;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

KAKALHS: Sthn ayjhsh twn esodwn, qa hqela na rwthsw. Edw kai kairo mas lete oti exoyn ayjhqei ta esoda apo thn katapolemhsh toy laqremporioy kaysimwn, alla den mas exete dwsei kanena pio sygkekrimeno stoixeio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo tis 15 Febroyarioy yparxei hdh, opws gnwrizete, mia prospaqeia h opoia exei ginei, me poly sobaro tropo kai me apotelesmatikothta. Exoyme hdh kapoia prwta deigmata. Gnwrizete oti den exei oloklhrwqei h dianomh, h pwlhsh petrelaioy qermanshs  giati milame kai gia mia deyterh periodo, to xeimwna poy erxetai. Sto telos toy etoys loipon qa exoyme plhrh stoixeia gia ayto to opoio me rwthsate. Egw ekeino to opoio mporw na sas pw einai oti yparxei mia poly kalh poreia twn esodwn apo ta telwneia, kaqoson ws ton Ioynio eixan ayjhqei kata 18,4%. Deixnei, loipon, oti ayth h politikh apodidei. Sto telos toy etoys qa exoyme to akribes pososto kai analogws kai to akribes poso.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ektos apo tis ayjhseis stis times twn kaysimwn eixame shmera kai tis epishmes ayjhseis stis times twn farmakwn. Qewreite logikes aytes tis ayjhseis kai me ton tropo poy eginan;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na kanw kapoio sxolio. Eixe milhsei gia to qema, an qymamai kala, o armodios ypoyrgos, ejerxomenos ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Molis pro dyo h triwn ebdomadwn.

MELIGKWNHS: Ena apo ta basika epixeirhmata ths kybernhshs yper ths anaqewrhshs toy arqroy 16, htan h antimetwpish ths foithtikhs metanasteyshs. Wstoso me to nomosxedio toy k. Stylianidh gia na pistopoihqei to ptyxio apo ena kollegio prepei na yparxei minimum xronos spoydwn sto ejwteriko dyo xronia. Telika h kybernhsh qelei na meiwsei h na ayjhsei th foithtikh metanasteysh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh qelei na meiwsei th foithtikh metanasteysh, alla nomizw oti diabazete me laqos tropo to nomosxedio to opoio exei kataqesei o ypoyrgos Paideias. Yparxei h dynatoths kapoios na mporesei na synexisei ths spoydes toy sto ejwteriko, efoson to epiqymei, gia enan metaptyxiako titlo. Perimenete, qa elqei kai to nomosxedio gia thn efarmogh ths koinotikhs odhgias, to opoio den mporei na erqei twra amesws, giati exoyme se ekkremothta opws gnwrizete dikastikh ejelijh sto dikasthrio Eyrwpaikwn Koinothtwn. Tote qa oloklhrwqei plhrws to plaisio.

Sas eyxaristw.

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