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Deytera, 19 Maioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 138022791

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 19 Maioy 2008

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

" Ayrio stis 11.00, synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qemata toy ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias. Stis 17.00, o Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei gia to Pomorie ths Boylgarias, opoy qa symmetasxei sth Synodo Koryfhs ths Diadikasias Synergasias Xwrwn Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs. (Stis 18.15 einai h afijh sto aerodromio Mpoyrgkas kai en synexeia qa metabei odikws sto Pomorie). Apo tis 20.00 ews tis 22.00 paratiqetai deipno apo ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Boylgarias pros timhn twn arxhgwn kratwn.

Thn Tetarth (21/5), apo tis 09.00 ews tis 10.30, qa pragmatopoihqei h synanthsh twn arxhgwn twn kratwn. Stis 10.30 h oikogeneiakh fwtografia, enw apo tis 11.00-12.30 qa epanalhfqoyn oi ergasies ths Synodoy. Stis 13.00, anaxwrhsh apo Pomorie gia aerodromio Mpoyrgkas kai afijh sthn Aqhna, argotera to meshmeri.

" O Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos, sto plaisio epishmhs episkechs poy pragmatopoiei shmera sto Parisi, qa ypogracei symfwnia synergasias se qemata eswterikhs asfaleias. H en logw symfwnia apotelei synexeia kai dieyrynsh ths enisxymenhs dimeroys astynomikhs synergasias poy hdh yparxei kai leitoyrgei ikanopoihtika metajy twn dyo xwrwn, me gnwmona thn empedwsh ths dhmosias asfaleias kai thn apotelesmatikoterh prolhch kai katapolemhsh ths egklhmatikothtas se tomeis, opws h tromokratia h h laqrometanasteysh, h emporia narkwtikwn kai anqrwpwn, to hlektroniko egklhma, h nomimopoihsh esodwn poy proerxontai apo paranomes drasthriothtes, h dieykolynsh ths ereynas sxetika me proswpa poy agnooyntai h katazhtoyntai, kaqws kai h enhmerwsh gia sygxrones meqodoys egklhmatikhs ereynas. Epishs, h symfwnia prowqei ton apotelesmatikotero xeirismo katastasewn krishs, thn antallagh plhroforiwn se qemata odikhs asfaleias, alla kai thn enisxymenh synergasia se qemata ekpaideyshs kai epimorfwshs astynomikoy proswpikoy.

O k. Paylopoylos qa ypogracei, epishs, mnhmonio synergasias me ton Geniko Grammatea toy Organismoy gia thn Oikonomikh Synergasia kai Anaptyjh (OOSA) k. Anxel Gkoyria kai th Genikh Dieyqyntria se qemata Dhmosias Diakybernhshs kai Topikhs Anaptyjhs k. Ontin Salar. Antikeimeno toy mnhmonioy synergasias einai h ektelesh apo ton OOSA toy ergoy enisxyshs ths metarryqmishs ths dhmosias dioikhshs sthn Ellada, ycoys 2,09 ekat. eyrw. Prokeitai gia synergasia h opoia prowqeitai kai pragmatopoieitai gia prwth fora apo th xwra mas, katateinontas sthn ektelesh eidikoy programmatos gia thn enisxysh ths poreias ths Dioikhtikhs Metarryqmishs sthn Ellada.

" To Sabbato (24/5), o Ypoyrgos Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn k. Kontos pragmatopoihse episkech sto nomo Hleias, opoy anakoinwse thn egkrish twn ergwn ypodomhs ston agrotiko tomea, synolikoy posoy 100 ekat. eyrw, poy entassontai sto programma Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs ``Alejandros Mpaltatzhs'' 2007-2013. O Ypoyrgos, poy synodeyotan apo ton Geniko Grammatea Perifereias k. Spyridwnos kai alloys synergates, exei probei se analytikes anakoinwseis. Qa exoyme thn eykairia, opws syzhthsa mazi toy, se liges ebdomades apo shmera, na kanoyme analytikh enhmerwsh, sth diplanh aiqoysa, gia thn poreia twn qematwn poy aforoyn tis pyroplhktes perioxes kai exoyn sxesh me to Ypoyrgeio Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs kai Trofimwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qewrw pws einai se gnwsh sas h kataqesh agwghs apo thn pleyra toy epixeirhmatia k. Bgenopoyloy, se baros toy Proedroy toy PASOK k. Giwrgoy Papandreoy. Qelw na rwthsw, poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs kai ypo to prisma twn apocewn poy exoyn diatypwqei kai epishmws apo to PASOK, oti o k. Bgenopoylos enqarrynetai apo thn kybernhsh gia na proxwrhsei se tetoioy eidoys prajeis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sxoliasw tis dhlwseis poy eginan apo to PASOK, oi opoies antikroyoyn kai thn praktikh ths kybernhshs kai tis apoceis ths, alla kai thn koinh logikh, dhladh ayta ta opoia exoyn symbei to teleytaio diasthma. Ekeino to opoio qa pw einai oti hdh apo tis 11 Aprilioy h kybernhsh topoqethqhke jekaqara, otan o idios epixeirhmatias kateqese agwgh enantion alloy arxhgoy politikoy kommatos. Sas qymizw oti tote eixame pei pws den symmerizomaste, se kamia periptwsh, tetoies praktikes, dhladh to na kataqetei kapoios agwgh se politiko arxhgo giati askhse politikh kritikh.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den symmerizeste, den katadikazete omws. Dhladh, se dyo apo toys tesseris arxhgoys ths antipoliteyshs, o k. Bgenopoylos exei kataqesei agwges. To qema einai jekaqaro: An katadikazete h oxi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite;

FANIDHS: Allo to ``den symmerizomai'' kai allo to ``katadikazw''.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H politikh topoqethsh ths kybernhshs egine kai tote kai twra me ton idio tropo. Nomizw oti einai jekaqarh. Den xreiazetai na prosqesw tipote perissotero.

KORAH: Den prokalei o k. Bgenopoylos; Enas epixeirhmatias einai, o opoios kanei agwges kai mhnyseis se politikoys arxhgoys. Eiqistai enas epixeirhmatias na akoloyqei aytoy toy eidoys thn taktikh; H kybernhsh symfwnei me aytoy toy eidoys tis taktikes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete thn eykairia na rwthsete ton idio ton epixeirhmatia, gia ton opoio, bebaiws, den protiqemai oyte kata dianoia, na apanthsw. Den gnwrizw an exete synhqisei apo alloys kybernhtikoys ekproswpoys na apantoyn gia logariasmo epixeirhmatiwn. Den to ekana kai den qa to kanw pote gia kanenan.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Kaklamanhs ekane mia allh protash ston k. Bgenopoylo. Eipe, anti na kanei agwges, na katebei, mimoymenos thn praktikh toy k. Mperloyskoni, na diekdikhsei thn chfo toy laoy. Ayto pws to blepete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokeitai na pw tipote perissotero. H qesh ths kybernhshs einai jekaqarh. Thn diatypwse  sas qymizw- prwth, prin apo ola ta alla kommata, stis 11 Aprilioy kai isxyei mexri shmera.

KAKALHS: Den symmerizeste, alla taytoxrona den ajiologeite tetoioy eidoys fainomena kai ti epiptwseis exoyn sthn politikh zwh. Dhladh, qelw na pw, den einai h stash sas ena eidos anoxh apenanti se fainomena ekfobismoy kai xeiragwghshs twn politikwn apo epixeirhmatika symferonta; Kapote, o Prwqypoyrgos milage gia poiothta ths Dhmokratias kai th sxesh poy exei me ta diaplekomena. Ayto den blepoyme twra na epanalambanetai. Ara, ayto den mporei na eklhfqei ws mia eidoys anoxh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto apedeixqh peritrana, otan h kybernhsh apofasise na ferei sth Boylh ena nomo, o opoios apagoreye ston opoiondhpote epixeirhmatia -kai egine gia to sygkekrimeno epixeirhmatia poy htan aformh, ayth h ryqmish- na yperbei to 20% ths agoras twn metoxwn toy OTE, kati to opoio den eida na ginetai se kamia allh periptwsh sto parelqon apo tis kybernhseis toy PASOK, otan o OTE epwlhqh kata 66%. Ara, loipon, makria apo ayth thn kybernhsh tetoioy eidoys kathgories h yponoies.

ROYMELIWTHS: Sxetika me ta osa eipe kai o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, alla kai o k. Pagkalos peri fylakhs kai oti syntoma qa logodothsoyn osoi emplekontai sth symfwnia me ton OTE, poia einai h apanthsh ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka thn perasmenh ebdomada.

KORAH: Qa epanelqw sto qema toy k. Bgenopoyloy. Symfwna me tis dhlwseis poy exoyn ginei apo to PASOK mexri twra, yparxei ena klima oti o k. Bgenopoylos den exei mhnysei, pronomiaka, thn kybernhsh, para to gegonos oti sto parelqon kai o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias k. Alogoskoyfhs eixe xrhsimopoihsei kapoioys ychloys tonoys enantion toy. To PASOK, loipon, yposthrizei oti yparxoyn politikes skopimothtes sth symperifora toy sygkekrimenoy epixeirhmatia. Ena sxolio sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa prohgoymenws oti den qa mpw stis leptomereies ths syzhthshs. Qa kanw, omws, mia ejairesh kai qa sas qymisw: Prwton, ti exei kanei ayth h kybernhsh sthn ypoqesh ayth -to eipa prohgoymenws ston k. Kakalh. Deyteron, anarwtiemai -otan einai h pempth h h ekth erwthsh poy ginetai ``enantion'' ths kybernhshs (giati pisteya kai pisteyw oti oi dhmosiografoi rwtoyn pantote eyriskomenoi apenanti sthn opoiadhpote ejoysia) ayth htan h topoqethsh moy kai ayth einai kai twra- eseis pisteyete oti ayto ejyphretei thn kybernhsh; Dhladh, gia na doyme ta pragmata me th logikh, opws eipa prohgoymenws, pisteyei sta sobara kapoios Ellhnas poliths oti otan h kybernhsh exei erqei kai exei balei ena fragmo sto sygkekrimeno epixeirhmatia, mporei opoiosdhpote na mas peisei argotera oti o epixeirhmatias poy kineitai me ton tropo ayto, ton opoio xarakthrisa kai prohgoymenws kai prin apo ena mhna, oti aytes oi kinhseis ejyphretoyn thn kybernhsh, bohqoyn thn kybernhsh; Se poio baqmo mporei na peisei kapoios poy to leei ayto; Giati kai mono apo to oti dexqhka pente erwthseis me to poy arxise h politikh enhmerwsh, mallon nomizw oti apanta ayto.

ROYMELIWTHS: Syggnwmh, alla qa epanelqw sto prohgoymeno erwthma, giati einai diaforetiko na ta leei o k. Pagkalos, enas boyleyths toy PASOK kai diaforetiko na leei oti qa logodothsoyn o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, me xqesines toy molis dhlwseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs phre apanthsh apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, thn Paraskeyh, sth Boylh. Emeis den xrhsimopoihsame kai den xrhsimopoioyme ekfraseis akraies, opws aytes poy xrhsimopoiei o k. Papandreoy teleytaia. Ton katanooyme. Katanooyme, dhladh, oti prospaqei na epanelqei sto politiko proskhnio, eyriskomenos se dyskolies kai sto komma toy kai endexomenws alloy eidoys politikes dyskolies, oi opoies parathroyntai ton teleytaio kairo, me aformh tis dhmoskophseis. Alla, den protiqemeqa na mpoyme peraiterw se syzhthsh.

KAKALHS: Me ayto to skeptiko ths eis atopon apagwghs poy anaptyjate prohgoymenws, an symferei dhladh thn kybernhsh...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai mono ayto to skeptiko. Ayto einai symplhrwmatiko kai den qa to elega ean den ginotan thn Pempth.

KAKALHS: Nai, symplhrwmatiko, estw. Me ayto to skeptiko, na to oloklhrwsoyme, na poyme oti ara qewreite oti ayto ejyphretei to PASOK;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw, ekproswpwntas thn kybernhsh, milw gia thn kybernhsh. Den qa elega tipote perissotero apo ayta ta opoia eipa. Kai hdh, nomizw oti exw apanthsei analytika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate oti katanoeite th stash kai tis dhlwseis toy k. Papandreoy. Se sxesh me to qema toy OTE gia thn pwlhsh sthn Deutsche Telekom, katanoeite ejisoy kai tis enstaseis toy k. Soyflia gia thn ekxwrhsh toy management;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Poy eidate eseis tis enstaseis;

PALAIOLOGOS: Ma, nomizw oti o k. Soyflias, xqes, sthn kyriakatikh efhmerida ``Eleyqeros Typos'' tis diatypwse oso pio komca mporoyse.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti den diabasate kala th synenteyjh toy k. Soyflia. Gia mena, einai jekaqaro apo tis dhlwseis toy k. Soyflia oti den dhmioyrgeitai kanena qema gia thn ypoqesh gia thn kybernhsh.

KAKALHS: Apo th mia, o ypoyrgos Paideias dhlwnei oti mono ena sok me thn idrysh twn idiwtikwn panepisthmiwn qa mporesei na swsei ta dhmosia panepisthmia. Apo thn allh, ekbiazei oti qa kocei thn kratikh epixorhghsh ean den symmorfwqoyn me tis ypodeijeis. Thn trith, leei oti qa parakamcei to arqro 16 mesw twn eyrwdikasthriwn. Dhladh, an ayth einai mia politikh sthrijhs toy dhmosioy xarakthra twn panepisthmiwn, opws leei o Prwqypoyrgos, tote poia einai h politikh apajiwshs kai epiqeshs sta dhmosia panepisthmia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H erwthsh sas emperiexei tria politika sxolia, ta opoia qa prepei na ta dei kapoios jexwrista. To prwto exei apanthqei me tis analytikes dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Oson afora to deytero, sas qymizw oti yparxei enas nomos, o opoios chfisthke apo th Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Ean yparxoyn  kai elpizw na mhn yparxoyn- politikes topoqethseis poy qewroyn ena nomo ws stoixeio ekbiasmoy, tote epitrecte moy na pw oti exoyme diaforetikh antilhch me aytoys poy mporei na ekfrazoyn ayth thn apoch gia to ti einai Dhmokratia. H Boylh chfise ena nomo, o opoios leei jekaqara oti qa prepei ta panepisthmia na ftiajoyn to katastatiko toys. Ean den to ftiajoyn, tote to Ypoyrgeio Paideias qa toys dwsei ena protypo katastatikoy, dhladh kanonismoy leitoyrgias. Nomizw oti den xreiazetai na epanalabw ta osa eixame pei otan h tote Ypoyrgos Paideias k. Giannakoy eixe eishghqei ayth th metarryqmish sth Boylh. Qymaste oti syzhthsame analytika, polles fores, pws einai adianohto na exoyme kanonismoys sta panepisthmia entelws ypotypwdeis h na mhn exoyme kanonismoys sta panepisthmia. To allo shmeio  poy afora th zwh twn idiwn twn panepisthmiwn- htan oti ta xrhmata toy Ellhna polith qa prepei na ajiopoioyntai h na xrhsimopoioyntai me tropo o opoios na einai diafanhs. Den nomizw na diafwnei kapoios. Ayto efere h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish tote. Ayto, dhladh, htan to kainoyrgio stoixeio: Oti h diaxeirish twn xrhmatwn qa ginetai me diaforetiko tropo, pio diafanh. Kai an den einai etoima ta panepisthmia, dhladh oi prytanikes arxes poy exoyn thn eyqynh, tote ta tetraeth sxedia, opws einai ypoxrewmena apo to nomo na ta ypoballoyn, den qa mporoyn na antlhsoyn ta kefalaia ekeina apo ton Proypologismo. Akribws ayta poy leei o nomos epanelabe o ypoyrgos Paideias. To trito shmeio, anafereste profanws se odhgia ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Sas qymizw oti ws melos ths eyrwpaikhs oikogeneias, ofeiloyme -to exoyme apodexqei apo thn idrytikh Synqhkh- na yioqetoyme tis odhgies oi opoies, allwste, den ginontai erhmhn hmwn, syndhmioyrgoyntai.

KAKALHS: Epeidh milhsate gia to nomo kai to sebasmo toy, prin apo to nomo yparxei to Syntagma. Kai pws to sebetai to Syntagma o ypoyrgos otan leei oti qa kanw diastaltikh ermhneia toy Syntagmatos kai qa parakamcw to arqro 16;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw oti yparxei mia odhgia ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Einai gnwsth h diadikasia oti oi odhgies ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs enswmatwnontai sto eswteriko Dikaio kai se ayto anaferotan o ypoyrgos.

KAKALHS: Einai panw apo to Syntagma oi odhgies ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai poly megalh syzhthsh. Exoyme topoqethqei me aformh to qema toy basikoy metoxoy.

KORAH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h kybernhsh me poia logikh qewrhse oti einai katallhlo to timing, paramones twn panelladikwn ejetasewn, na anoijei ena qema, opws einai oi allages sto ejetastiko, prokalwntas nea anastatwsh kai se goneis, alla kai ta paidia; Den qa mporoyse na to afhsei, as poyme, meta apo ena mhna to sygkekrimeno qema; Giati to ekane th dedomenh stigmh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei milhsei o armodios ypoyrgos. H kybernhsh monon den exei aifnidiasei se ayth thn ypoqesh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti emeis, hdh apo thn periodo poy hmastan sthn antipoliteysh, eixame milhsei gia thn katarghsh twn ejetasewn sth B' Lykeioy, pragma to opoio egine amesws molis giname kybernhsh. Pote den aifnidiazoyme se tetoia qemata, ta opoia malista einai poly eyaisqhta. O,ti prokeitai na ginei ws allagh, ginetai se baqos xronoy kai afoy exei ginei arketa megalh syzhthsh. Allwste, apedeixqh sthn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish me thn ekpaideytikh koinothta, me toys goneis, me toys maqhtes, me oloys toys endiaferomenoys. Den yparxei kamia periptwsh na aifnidiasoyme kanenan.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, enas prwhn ypoyrgos ypeyqynos gia thn Astynomia, o k. Polydwras, se synenteyjh toy leei oti gia thn katastash ths Astynomias ftaine oi syndikalistes alla kai oi strathgoi poy siwpoyn. Pws sxoliazei aytes tis dhlwseis h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa kanw kapoio sxolio. O k. Polydwras eydokimws yphrethse ws ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs. Gnwrizei para poly kala ta qemata, sigoyra kalytera apo emena. Den exw na prosqesw tipota.

KAKALHS: Epishs o ypoyrgos Paideias dhlwse shmera, meta th synanthsh toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo oti h amilla qa bohqhsei ta kratika panepisthmia. Poy exei apodeixqei ayto; Mhpws sth Mesh ekpaideysh poy leitoyrgoyn ta idiwtika sxoleia; Exoyn bohqhsei ta dhmosia; H sthn Ygeia h leitoyrgia twn idiwtikwn iatreiwn exei bohqhsei ta dhmosia nosokomeia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: As mhn kanw analysh giati h amilla bohqaei.

KAKALHS: Lew, giati den lete eyqews oti ayto poy qelete einai ta idiwtika panepisthmia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: As mhn kanw analysh giati h amilla sigoyra bohqaei, alla pantws nomizw oti...

KAKALHS: Den exei apodeixqei, lew.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den symfwnoyme se kanenan apo toys tomeis poy anaferate kai se polloys alloys poy mporoyme na broyme.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gia to qema ths Paideias, efoson o k. Stylianidhs, shmera, stis dhlwseis toy, proanhggeile oti qa ginei xrhsh ths diastaltikhs ermhneias toy nomoy gia thn ypoqesh twn mh kratikwn panepisthmiwn. Ayto pote qa efarmostei, pote to blepete xronika na tiqetai san nomos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na prosqesw kati. Den to gnwrizw, qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

SPYRAKH: Na sas enhmerwsw, an isws den to jerete, oti yparxei mia dhlwsh toy prwhn yfypoyrgoy Paideias k. B. Mpekirh o opoios eklegotan sthn Patra kai twra einai ekei boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias o gios toy, o opoios, oyte ligo oyte poly, perigrafei th dolofonia toy kaqhghth Temponera, ws na eksfendonisthke antikeimeno kai na ton brhke sto kefali. Exei na kanei h kybernhsh kapoio sxolio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate prohgoymenws se erwthsh synadelfoy, an to Syntagma einai yperanw twn koinotikwn odhgiwn h oi odhgies yperanw toy Syntagmatos oti h kybernhsh exei topoqethqei sto qema ayto apo thn epoxh toy basikoy metoxoy. Thn epoxh, omws, ekeinh legate akribws to antiqeto, dhladh oti to Syntagma einai yperanw twn koinotikwn nomwn. Shmera, lete oti oi koinotikoi nomoi einai yperanw, ligo poly, toy Syntagmatos. Telika, ti isxyei apo ta dyo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Pote to eipa ayto;

TSIOYFOS: Den eipate oti exete topoqethqei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To ``exw topoqethqei'', deN shmainei oti eipa ayto poy lete eseis. Pragmatika, aporw pws bgalate ayto to symperasma.

TSIOYFOS: Den eipate oti ofeiloyme...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa oti h kybernhsh exei topoqethqei apo tote. Den sas eipa oti allaje h apoch mas.

TSIOYFOS: Nai, twra lete omws oti oi odhgies se o,ti afora ta qemata twn idiwtikwn panepisthmiwn...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai dyo diaforetika qemata.

TSIOYFOS: Nai, einai dyo diaforetika qemata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai allo to qema toy Syntagmatos to opoio qetete kai allo to qema ths enswmatwshs odhgiwn. Sthn enswmatwsh twn odhgiwn gnwrizete poly kala oti oles oi xwres ofeiloyn na proxwrhsoyn me bash to eqniko toys Dikaio.

TSIOYFOS: Bebaiws, yparxei omws kai to Syntagma poy leei..

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akoyste me ligo, epeidh exei tyxei ws ypoyrgos, ta tessera xronia poy eimai se ayth th qesh, na xreiastei polles fores na ferw enswmatwsh odhgiwn poy aforoyn to xwro twn Meswn Enhmerwshs. Ofeileis na fereis thn odhgia, na thn enswmatwseis me ton tropo poy armozei sth xwra soy. Den yparxei kapoia antifash se ayto to opoio leme, apo tote mexri twra.

KORAH: Ti na ypoqesoyme, oti h kybernhsh qa symmorfwqei me tis proeidopoihseis toy armodioy Epitropoy k. Mak Gkribi kai qa katarghsei thn tropologia poy problepei oti ta jena kefalaia den mporoyn na agorasoyn panw apo 20% twn eishgmenwn sto xrhmatisthrio etaireiwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo o,ti gnwrizw, den exei teleiwsei ayth h ypoqesh sthn Komision. Otan oloklhrwqei, qa topoqethqoyme.

KAKALHS: Se sxesh me to diatrofiko skandalo hqela na rwthsw. An h kybernhsh exei bgalei kapoia symperasmata oson afora thn katallhlothta kai thn entimothta twn elegktikwn mhxanismwn. Giati diabazoyme oti to oryktelaio den mporoyse na anixneytei sto hlielaio, giati o sygkekrimenos elegxos den perilambanetai stoys anagkaioys apo th nomoqesia elegxoys. An ayto einai swsto, an h kybernhsh skeftetai na allajei th nomoqesia, oytws wste na perilambanetai kai ayto stoy elegxoys kai deyteron, o EFET den exei dikaiodosia gia elegxoys oyte sth fysikh kai zwikh paragwgh, oyte sta telwneia kai den diaqetei oyte kan diko toy ergasthrio. Se sxesh me ayto h kybernhsh...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epeidh einai poly ejeidikeymena ta erwthmata kai den qelw na apanthsw proxeira, qa moy epitrecete na rwthsw shmera ta dyo armodia ypoyrgeia kai ayrio na sas exw mia apanthsh.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sto toyrkiko Typo eidan teleytaia to fws ths dhmosiothtas reportaz poy deixnoyn oti stis proqeseis ths Agkyras einai kata kapoio tropo na qesei atzenta syzhthsewn ``gkrizwn zwnwn'' kai meionotikoy sth Qrakh se synanthsh poy qa ginei, an den kanw laqos thn erxomenh ebdomada, metajy twn arxhgwn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn twn dyo xwrwn. Ti leei h kybernhsh ep aytoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H qesh mas einai gnwsth, den exei allajei se kamia periptwsh sto qema ayto. Diabasa kai egw ta dhmosieymata. Sigoyra to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn sthn katallhlh stigmh qa apanthsei analytikotera. Alla pantws den exei allajei h qesh mas se ayta ta qemata.

TSOLAKHS: Qa yparjei synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy meqayrio me ton k. Erntogan sth Boylgaria;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei, opws sas anakoinwsa, sto programma. Sto periqwrio twn syzhthsewn mporei na ginoyn syntomes synanthseis me diaforoys hgetes. Den exw kati perissotero.

KORAH: Yparxei epishmh hmeromhnia gia to pote qa erqei kai poses wres h meres qa meinei o k. Sarkozi sthn Ellada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Qa rwthsw sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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