Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-05-07

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 7 Maioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 135847099

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 7 Maioy 2008

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa milhsei ayrio, stis 08.30, se ekdhlwsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas sto Zappeio.

Kata to trexon etos, h xwra mas qa filojenhsei th mia apo tis dyo synedriaseis toy Dioikhtikoy Symboylioy ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas oi opoies, kata paradosh, sygkaloyntai kaqe xrono, ektos ths edras ayths, sth Fragkfoyrth, se mia apo tis symmetexoyses sto eyrwsysthma, eqnikes kentrikes trapezes. Ayth h synedriash, h opoia einai fysika kekleismenwn twn qyrwn, ginetai ayrio sto Zappeio. To brady stis 20.30 qa parateqei deipno, sthn arxh toy opoioy, meta toys xairetismoys, qa milhsei o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete kati perissotero na mas peite shmera gia th symfwnia OTE-DEUTSCHE TELEKOM, gia to xronodiagramma endexomenws, giati apo to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias lene oti eimaste mia anasa prin apo thn telikh symfwnia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa makrynei, nomizw, h oloklhrwsh twn syzhthsewn. Den exw, omws, kati perissotero. Qa perimenoyme th diadikasia apo to Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, prin apo ligo, o Proedros toy PASOK, milwntas sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy kommatos toy, gia to qema toy OTE, ekane logo gia oleqria prajh gia ta ellhnika symferonta kai gia skandalo apistias se baros toy ellhnikoy laoy. Exete kapoio sxolio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai mono to gegonos oti den exei oloklhrwqei h diapragmateysh kai o k. Papandreoy exei bgalei ``etymhgoria'', nomizw oti apodeiknyei poies einai oi pragmatikes politikes apoceis kai proqeseis. Safhs proqesh toy PASOK kai se ayto to qema -opws se ola ta qemata- einai na dhmioyrghsei entypwseis pros ofelos eswkommatikwn isorropiwn. Kai, epishs, na dhmioyrghsei ena klima astaqeias kai abebaiothtas se o,ti afora ton ependytiko tomea, gia thn opoia, allwste, astaqeia kai abebaiothta eyqynetai o k. Papandreoy, me dhlwseis poy exei epanalabei ton teleytaio kairo, oxi mia kai dyo fores. To idio eprajan kai stelexh. Lypoymai poy to shmeiwnw. Ofeilw, omws, na shmeiwsw kai kati akomh: Epanalambanetai h politikh ekeinh thn opoia askhse ws antipoliteysh to PASOK to 1990-1993, otan elege oti ston OTE qa exoyme mia xrysh metoxh sto onoma toy ellhnikoy laoy kai sth synexeia, sth diarkeia twn etwn diakybernhshs apo to PASOK, epwlhqh to 66% twn metoxwn toy OTE se idiwtes. Antilambanetai kapoios th sobarothta kai th synepeia logwn kai ergwn.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes, eipate oti h kybernhsh den meleta to endexomeno xrhshs pyrhnikhs energeias, alla se anakoinwsh poy ejedwse o Ypoyrgos PEXWDE, to apogeyma, anaferei oti prepei na problhmatistoyme gi` ayth th morfh ths energeias. Telikws, ti apo ta dyo symbainei; H kybernhsh to meleta h to exei hdh aporricei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den blepw na yparxei antiqesh sto ena kai sto allo qema. Egw qa meinw sth dhlwsh thn opoia ekana xqes to meshmeri. Den qa symplhrwsw kati perissotero. Nomizw oti ean diabasei kapoios prosektika kai th dikh moy dhlwsh kai thn erwthsh poy moy egine, alla kai th dhlwsh poy exei ginei apo to Ypoyrgeio PEXWDE, qa katalabei oti den yparxei kanenos eidoys anantistoixia.

XIWTHS: Tis diabasa kai tis dyo prosektika. H dikh sas dhlwsh leei oti to exei aporricei, alla h dhlwsh toy Ypoyrgoy PEXWDE, otan leei oti prepei na problhmatistoyme, moy dhmioyrgei thn eikona oti h kybernhsh to exei aporricei pros to paron. Einai allo pragma na to exete aporricei pros to paron kai allo na to exete aporricei apaj dia pantos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti qa prepei na tis janadiabasete.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai pleon jekaqaro oti yparxoyn synnefa stis sxeseis toy Ypoyrgoy Periballontos, gia na to diatypwsoyme komca, me ton k. Dhma...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati to lete ayto;

ROYMELIWTHS: Ayth h kontra problhmatizei thn kybernhsh oti endexomenws mporei na dhmioyrghqoyn problhmata sth leitoyrgia, stoys tomeis poy aptetai h synergasia twn dyo andrwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa elega oti yparxei kapoia kontra. Qa elega oti yparxei paraqesh apocewn. O Ypoyrgos PEXWDE exei milhsei me jekaqaro logo gia ta qemata ta opoia exei sthn eyqynh toy, gia tis prajeis ekeines oi opoies elaban xwra sth diarkeia ths teleytaias tetraetias. Antilambanomaste th qesh toy Epitropoy ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, ws qesh toy anqrwpoy o opoios ofeilei na thrhsei toys kanonismoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. To idio kanoyme kai emeis. Ekeino poy exei shmasia einai, ean to ergo ayto sthn ypoqesh toy periballontos, ginetai me sobarothta kai ypeyqynothta. Kai qelw na shmeiwsw edw oti me sobarothta kai ypeyqynothta, poy den synanthsame sto parelqon, ginetai epi twn hmerwn toy Giwrgoy Soyflia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Tote k. Ypoyrge, pws ejhgeite to gegonos oti to teleytaio diasthma, tis teleytaies dyo ebdomades, o k. Dhmas epanerxetai kai amfisbhtei oxi mono thn politikh toy Ypoyrgeioy Periballontos kai proswpika thn politikh toy k. Soyflia, alla kai tis proqeseis toy. Kai nomizw oti kati tetoio...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den nomizw oti symbainei kati tetoio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ormwmai apo th xqesinh dhlwsh toy k. Soyflia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokeitai na kanw ermhneia dhlwsewn, alla den nomizw oti symbainei kati tetoio. Qewrw oti h apanthsh poy edwsa kalyptei to qema. Den prokeitai na epektaqw.

XIWTHS: Eseis mporei na mhn qelete na epektaqeite, alla otan o ypoyrgos PEXWDE kathgorei ton Epitropo k. Dhma oti diastreblwnei thn alhqeia, pisteyete oti to kanei apo storgh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ejartatai ti exei prohghqei, alla den qa mpw se ayth th diadikasia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Xqes, shmeiwqhke ena epeisodio sto Ypoyrgeio Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs, symfwna me plhrofories, metajy toy k. Kontoy kai syndikalistwn -an den kanw laqos htan rodakinoparagwgoi- kai mias boyleytoy, ths k. Foyntoykidoy. Den jerw poia htan h aitia kai h aformh. Wstoso, omws, me tis prajeis toy o k. Kontos den parabiazei kai den parabainei tis entoles toy Prwqypoyrgoy poy exei dhlwsei oti qa prepei oi ypoyrgoi na exoyn anoiktes tis portes kai sta stelexh kai toys boyleytes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas, ean den gnwrizete pws akribws exei to epeisodio, mhn qetete thn erwthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, eipa ``den jerw poia htan h aitia''. Prosejte, h diatypwsh moy htan akribhs ``poia htan h aitia kai poia htan h aformh''. Eipa ``den jerw ayto''. Alla apo ekei kai pera, yphrje ena gegonos antikeimeniko, oti o k. Kontos apeilhse toys syndikalistes kai thn k. Foyntoykidoy na toys petajei ejw me tis klwtsies h na kalesei thn Astynomia. Yphrje, telos pantwn, ena epeisodio, akoysthkan kai diafora gallika.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw to epeisodio. Den gnwrizw ti akribws dihmeifqh. Eimai bebaios, omws, oti an teqei mia erwthsh ston k. Konto qa apanthsei. Allwste, o idios o ypoyrgos Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs prosfata, epistrefontas apo makra synedriash Synodoy stis Bryjelles, otan plhroforhqhke oti yphrxe problhma me toys alieis, gia paradeigma, phge sto ypoyrgeio toy meta ta mesanyxta, emeine ws tis tesserishmisi ta jhmerwmata gia na syzhthsei mazi toys kai na brei lysh sto problhma. Moy kanei, loipon, pragmatika entypwsh, otan enas ypoyrgos o opoios epistrefontas -meta apo 15wro tajidi stis Bryjelles ergazomenos- mesanyxta sth xwra mas, phgainei sto grafeio gia na lysei ekeinh thn wra, ws tis 4 ta jhmerwmata poy dihrkhse h syskech se mh programmatismenh synanthsh, to problhma twn anqrwpwn oi opoioi diamartyronto, na exei symperiferqei me ayto ton tropo poy moy lete.

ROYMELIWTHS: Asfalws, exete ypoch sas tis oloselides kataxwrhseis toy YPEXWDE. Ektos apo thn probolh twn qesewn ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy, aytes einai kai oi qeseis ths kybernhshs se o,ti afora to Kioto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ennoeitai. Kai se o,ti afora th lejh ``probolh'', epeidh kamia fora pairnei sth diastash toy logoy mia arnhtikh xroia -toylaxiston ayto antelhfqhn apo thn erwthsh sas, ektos kai an kanw laqos, opote na stamathsw. An yparxei ayth h arnhtikh xroia, loipon, opoy thn epibebaiwnete, qelw na sas pw oti einai ypoxrewsh twn politikwn, ths Politeias na enhmerwnei toys polites.

KAKARNIAS: Ston k. Papandreoy qa anaferqw kai egw. Milhse sth Boylh gia ta qemata twn ypoklopwn, ta omologa ths Siemens. Kai eipe, malista, oti einai skandala poy exoyn diaprajei stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Zhthse ola ayta na pane sth Boylh, na elegxqoyn kai apo th Boylh kai eipe oti to PASOK den exei tipota na fobhqei. Exete kapoio sxolio gia osa eipe o Proedros toy PASOK;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ti exei pei. Profanws, epanalambanei th fraseologia, ayth thn kenh politikoy periexomenoy, giati kai mono na analogistei kapoios ti synebh sthn ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn, oti dhladh parakoloyqoymenos htan o Prwqypoyrgos kai arxhgos ths Neas Dhmokratias kai oxi o Proedros toy PASOK, fantasteite ti qa eixe symbei an htan aytos parakoloyqoymenos. Kai mono na analogistei kapoios oti ayto to gegonos prospaqei na to emfanisei ws skandalo ths Neas Dhmokratias, nomizw oti den xreiazetai na topoqethqei peraiterw. Oloi oi Ellhnes polites bgazoyn ta symperasmata toys.

FANIDHS: Sto epeisodio poy anaferqhkan oi synadelfoi, apla na epishmanw oti htan agrosyndikalistes oi opoioi oysiastika proerxontai apo to xwro ths Neas Dhmokratias. Anhkoyn, dhladh, paratajiaka sth Nea Dhmokratia. Etsi, loipon, den einai mia aplh periptwsh. Dioti, edw antilambaneste kai eseis oti profanws yparxei mia kontra, mia dysareskeia stelexwn ths Neas Dhmokratias, poy anhkoyn ston agrotiko tomea, me ton k. Konto, endexomenws kai me thn k. Foyntoykidoy. Qewreite, loipon, oti yparxei ena metwpo me aytoys toys syndikalistes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ekana hdh mia topoqethsh. Den exw na pw tipote perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa moy epitrecete na epanelqw, omws, sto qema toy epeisodioy me ton k .Konto kai thn k. Foyntoykidoy. Yphrje mia plhroforia oti o k. Kontos xqes eqese qema gia thn k. Foyntoykidoy toso ston Grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas k. Tragakh, oso kai sto Megaro Majimoy kai se sas proswpika.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sto Megaro proswpikws; Lete synexws ``to Megaro Majimoy'' kai den exw katalabei akoma...

PALAIOLOGOS: Ennow se sas proswpika mias poy eiste enoikos toy Megaroy Majimoy. Alhqeyei oti pragmatika ekane, eqese parapono gia thn symperifora ths k. Foyntoykidoy, o k. Kontos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

SPYRAKH: Na rwthsw an stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs einai meta tis allages poy qa kanei se aythn th diadikasia syntajiodothshs twn stratiwtikwn, na yparxei perikoph twn syntajewn sthn 25etia poy exoyn dikaiwma na fygoyn oi stratiwtikoi se sxesh me thn 35etia poy qa dinetai pleon to dikaiwma paramonhs toys sthn parallhlh epethrida.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws exete diapistwsei, ayto to opoio kaname einai na dwsoyme kinhtra -an anaferqoyme sto Asfalistiko to opoio prosfata chfisthke, sthn asfalistikh metarryqmish- se osoys to epiqymoyn na meinoyn perissotero, ameibomenoi perissotero. Antilambaneste, loipon, oti ayth einai h filosofia mas kai oxi h filosofia meiwshs apodoxwn kanenos. Den gnwrizw leptomereies gia tis syzhthseis poy exoyn ginei mexri stigmhs, eimai bebaios oti o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynhs qa dwsei perissoteres plhrofories, an apeyqynqeite se ayton. H filosofia mas exei katadeixqei.

SPYRAKH: To deytero poy qa hqela na rwthsw einai an sth xqesinh syzhthsh, prin thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, egine logos gia tis epomenes promhqeies twn Enoplwn Dynamewn kai eidika an exei apofasisei h kybernhsh h brisketai sto teliko stadio na apofasisei, gia thn promhqeia eji polemikwn ploiwn typoy fregatas apo th Gallia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw na egine tetoia syzhthsh. Ayto to opoio sas eipa -kai mexri ekei mporw na sas pw, den exw kati perissotero- einai oti syzhthqhkan qemata synarmodiothtas twn triwn ypoyrgeiwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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