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Pempth, 3 Aprilioy 2008

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H ENHMERWSH TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. EYAGGELO ANTWNARO(030408)

ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 3 Aprilioy 2008

Xairete.

Qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw oti ekponhqhke kai efarmozetai, gia prwth fora sthn Ellada -kai to ypogrammizw ayto- Eidiko Epixeirhsiako Programma gia th ``Dioikhtikh Metarryqmish'' sto diasthma 2007-2013, synolikoy ycoys proypologismoy 631 ekatommyriwn eyrw. Opws eipe shmera to prwi, sthn prwth synedriash ths Epitrophs parakoloyqhshs aytoy toy Epixeirhsiakoy Programmatos, o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Prokophs Paylopoylos, to Epixeirhsiako Programma, erxetai na efarmosei orizonties politikes, alla kai ejeidikeymenes draseis se tomeis poy xronia paroysiazoyn dioikhtikes arryqmies kai problhmata kai na dhmioyrghsei mia dhmosia dioikhsh eyelikth, antigrafeiokratikh kai leitoyrgikh. Oi stoxoi toy Programmatos aytoy einai filodojoi, einai omws stoxoi, opws kai oles oi metarryqmiseis poy programmatizei kai efarmozei h shmerinh kybernhsh, kentrikhs epiloghs, prwths proteraiothtas. Opws gnwrizete, apodidoyme idiaiterh shmasia sthn anadiorganwsh ths dhmosias dioikhshs, th dioikhtikh metarryqmish. Kai qa kanoyme oti einai aparaithto, wste h metarryqmish ayth na petyxei. Eidikotera, qa hqela na sas pw, oti mesa se ligoys mhnes, briskontai sth fash ths entajhs, exei proxwrhsei h entajh 21 synolika ergwn, proypologismoy 3 ekatommyriwn eyrw, me proteraiothta stoys tomeis ths Ygeias, ths Politikhs Prostasias kai ths aploysteyshs twn diadikasiwn, opoy prowqoyntai shmantikes metarryqmiseis. Deka apo ta erga ayta briskontai hdh sth fash ths prokhryjhs. Den qa anaferqw se ola ayta ta erga. Mporeite, allwste, na ta deite ston istoselida toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn. Qa anaferw omws dyo-tria apo ayta, opws einai h meleth kai efarmogh anasxediasmoy diadikasiwn gia th meiwsh twn dioikhtikwn epibarynsewn kai toy dioikhtikoy kostoys, proypologismoy 1,2 ekatommyriwn eyrw. To sxedio drashs gia thn enisxysh toy dioikhtikoy kai organwtikoy periballontos kai th qesmikh katoxyrwsh toy hlektronikoy fakeloy toy asqenoys. H efarmogh kalhs nomoqethshs kai enisxyshs ths epitelikhs leitoyrgias ths Dioikhshs kai alla. Qa hqela epishs na epishmanw to aytonohto: 'Oti to Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, sto plaisio akribws toy Epixeirhsiakoy Sxedioy ``Dioikhtikh Metarryqmish'', den epembainei sthn oysia ths politikhs twn allwn Ypoyrgeiwn, h opoia paramenei sth dikh toys anafaireth armodiothta kai eyqynh. Erxetai na symplhrwsei, aplws, tis prospaqeies oi opoies ginontai, kyriws, opws sas eipa, mesw ths aploysteyshs twn dioikhtikwn diadikasiwn kai ths anadiorganwshs domwn kai mhxanismwn, prospaqeies poy kai se orqologismo dapanwn, qa odhghsoyn sto dhmosio tomea kai, bebaiws, qa dieykolynoyn akomh perissotero tis sxeseis, tis epafes toy Ellhna polith me to Dhmosio.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ROYMELIWTHS: Pws einai to klima thn epomenh hmera, apo osa synebhsan xqes sto Boykoyresti. Ti eisprattei dhladh h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to qema twn syzhthsewn, oi opoies eginan sto Boykoyresti kai gia tis opoies, bebaiws, eiste oloi enhmeroi, qa hqela na parapemcw sthn enhmerwsh poy qa ginei ekei. Qa hqela, omws, gia mia akomh fora, na pw ayto to opoio exoyme pei tis teleytaies hmeres, ton teleytaio kairo, kat` epanalhch: H ellhnikh kybernhsh exontas thn yposthrijh toy synoloy, sxedon, toy politikoy kosmoy, exontas th sympnoia twn Ellhnwn politwn me to meros ths, paroysiase me tropo safh, me tropo jekaqaro, pera apo kaqe amfisbhthsh thn ellhnikh qesh sto qema.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Exete kapoia eikona se sxesh me to pote epishma qa doqei to keimeno twn symperasmatwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ayth th stigmh kati. Gnwrizw oti aytos o kyklos twn syzhthsewn oson afora to sygkekrimeno sxetiko qema, apo thn enhmerwsh poy exw kai egw apo to Boykoyresti, exei oloklhrwqei. Alla, opws gnwrizete h Synodos synexizetai kai polla alla qemata syzhtoyntai akomh, einai sto stadio ths diaboyleyshs. To qema to opoio sygkentrwse, opws htan fysiko allwste, to endiaferon ths ellhnikhs koinhs gnwmhs, htan to qema to opoio htan prwto sthn hmerhsia diatajh. Synexizetai shmera h diaboyleysh gia alla qemata kai bebaiws h Synodos Koryfhs ths Atlantikhs Symmaxias synexizetai kai ayrio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Gi` ayto to qema. Ean exete eikona sxetika me thn anabolh. An yphrje anabolh me xronodiagramma h aney xronodiagrammatos.

ANTWNAROS: Kat` arxas, qa hqela na pw oti ayto poy lete ``anabolh'' prohlqe apo th stash, apo thn topoqethsh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, h opoia eipe ayto poy exoyme pei kat` epanalhch: Oti den mporei na diatypwqei prosklhsh pros th geitonikh xwra, pros thn Prwhn Gioygkoslabikh Dhmokratia ths Makedonias na metasxei sto NATO, efoson den exei ejeyreqei prohgoymenws amoibaia apodekth lysh sto qema toy onomatos. Kai ayto katasthsame safes se oloys, oti den mporoyse, bebaiws, na yparjei ayth h prosklhsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Jerw oti einai se ejelijh h diatypwsh toy keimenoy twn symperasmatwn, alla rwtaw an h anabolh ayth, symfwna me plhrofories, an qa einai me xronodiagramma, dhladh, an...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ayth th stigmh, tipote perissotero na sas pw panw se ayto to qema. Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw, omws, einai to apotelesma ths jekaqarhs ellhnikhs stashs poy odhghse sth mh diatypwsh prosklhshs pros th geitonikh xwra na ginei melos ths Symmaxias, opws problepotan arxika.

PERDIKARHS: Yparxei periptwsh sto keimeno aytwn twn symperasmatwn na anagrafetai oti den proxwrhse h Symmaxia se prosklhsh ths geitonikhs xwras, logw toy oti den plhroi ta krithria kai perimenei kati tetoio h ellhnikh pleyra;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa kanw kamia anafora se ena keimeno to opoio den gnwrizw, ayth th stigmh.

FANIDHS: Qa eixe, omws, idiaitero endiaferon kai exoyme opws eipate kai eseis swsta enhmerwqei gia kapoia pragmata, apo toys synadelfoys poy briskontai ekei, na doyme poioi einai ekeinoi oi symmaxoi poy mas yposthrijan. Exoyme akoysei, as poyme, oti o Nikola Sarkozi htan poly filellhnas, na to pw etsi. Oi ypoloipoi ti ekanan;

ANTWNAROS: Oyte kai se ayto to qema qa hqela na anaferqw gia enan para poly aplo logo. Qa sas ejhghsw kai nomizw oti to jerete oloi sas, ejalloy. Eseis parakoloyqeite ayta ta qemata apo konta, olo ayto to diasthma, alla kai prin kan prokycei to sygkekrimeno qema. Gnwrizete oti aytes oi apofaseis sto plaisio ths Symmaxias, lambanontai me synainesh. Prepei oloi na symfwnhsoyn. Shmasia, loipon, en prokeimenw, exei h topoqethsh -to lew gia mia akomh fora- h jekaqarh topoqethsh, h jekaqarh qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, ths xwras mas, ths Elladas.

Sas eyxaristw.

ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 3 Aprilioy 2008

Xairete.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

NIKOLAOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera eixame ena sxolio gia th dianoijh toy odofragmatos ths odoy Lhdras. Qa hqela ena sxolio apo thn pleyra sas.

ANTWNAROS: Xairetizoyme th dianoijh ths odoy Lhdras, sto kentro ths Leykwsias, poy gia perissotera apo 45 xronia htan kleisth. Apotelei ena shmantiko bhma proseggishs. Kaqe bhma to opoio ginetai kai dieykolynei thn proseggish twn Ellhnokypriwn kai twn Toyrkokypriwn sthn Kypro, einai ena bhma mprosta, einai mia qetikh ejelijh. Bebaiws, omws, mia tetoia ejelijh den arkei. Einai anagkaio na epideixqei apo thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra to epoikodomhtiko ekeino pneyma to opoio apaiteitai, wste na yparjoyn oysiastika apotelesmata. Apotelesmata poy qa odhghsoyn stis ejelijeis ekeines, wste na dieykolynqei h epanalhch ths plhroys diapragmateytikhs diadikasias. Gnwrizete oti h Ellada sthrizei tis prospaqeies oi opoies ginontai gia thn ejeyresh kai thn epiteyjh mias dikaihs, biwsimhs kai leitoyrgikhs lyshs sthn Kypro.

KEFALA: H ellhnikh kybernhsh qa parabreqei sthn teleth enarjhs twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn sto Pekino;

ANTWNAROS: H Ellada, opws gnwrizete, exei metasxei se oloys toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. H Ellada einai h geneteira xwra ths olympiakhs ideas kai o qematofylakas ths olympiakhs ideas.

KEFALA: Sygkekrimena, shmainei oti qa parabreqei kai o k. Karamanlhs;

ANTWNAROS: Einai poly nwris gia na sas pw kati.

KEFALA: Oson afora to NATO, qewreite epityxia ayto poy exei ginei to prwi kai me ta sxolia poy ekane molis twra o k. Mpoys, oti xairetai para poly gia to anoigma stis kainoyrgies xwres, alla krima gia th ``Makedonia''; Etsi to eipe.

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh qesh einai jekaqarh kai thn exoyme diatypwsei edw kai kairo. Diatypwqhke, opws htan fysiko kai opws anamenotan kai sth Synodo Koryfhs ths Atlantikhs Symmaxias poy arxise xqes sto Boykoyresti. H qesh mas, to lew gia mia akomh fora, synocizetai se mia frash: Den mporei na yparjei prosklhsh gia symmetoxh ths Prwhn Gioygkoslabikhs Dhmokratias ths Makedonias sto NATO, efoson den exei ejeyreqei mia amoibaia apodekth lysh sto qema ths onomasias.

KEFALA: Epomenws to qewreite epityxia ayto poy egine kai den mphkan telika ta Skopia sto NATO;

ANTWNAROS: Den einai qema ajiologhshs. Einai san na moy zhtate na ajiologhsw thn ellhnikh stash. H ellhnikh stash htan, einai kai ejakoloyqei na einai ayth poy diatypwqhke xqes apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai toys alloys Ypoyrgoys poy pairnoyn meros sth Synodo sto Boykoyresti. Einai mia stash synepeias, einai mia stash h opoia, opws gnwrizete, exei th sthrijh toy synoloy sxedon toy politikoy kosmoy. Einai mia stash, h opoia ekfrazei th sympnoia ths megalhs pleiochfias twn Ellhnwn politwn.

TSALIKA: Jekaqara me ayth th stash kai ypoxwrhse as to poyme, o k. Mpoys, ti antallagma qa dwsete;

ANTWNAROS: Isws den sas einai safhs h diadikasia me thn opoia lambanontai tetoioy eidoys apofaseis sto NATO. Oi apofaseis aytoy toy eidoys sto NATO lambanontai me synainesh. Prepei na symfwnhsoyn kai ta 26 melh ths Symmaxias. Ean opoiodhpote melos den symfwnei, den lambanetai h apofash. Den diatypwnetai, dhladh en prokeimenw, h prosklhsh pros th sygkekrimenh xwra, na erqei kai na ginei melos ths Symmaxias. Den einai qema antallagmatwn.

TSALIKA: Egw, miloysa, oxi ti ginetai sto trapezi, alla sto paraskhnio. Dhladh, oti telika kai na elege h Ellada qa kaloysan to FYROM.

ANTWNAROS: Sas ejhgw poia einai h diadikasia.

TSALIKA: Symfwnw, alla na sas kanw mia allh erwthsh. Posoys stratiwtes qa steiloyme sto Afganistan;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sth xqesinh dhlwsh toy k. Meimarakh, o opoios leei oti den allazei tipote sthn ellhnikh stash.

TSALIKA: Na kanw mia allh erwthsh. Erxomai apo to Parisi. Thn perasmenh ebdomada, eilikrina, h eikona ths Elladas xalase para poly.

ANTWNAROS: Giati isxyrizeste oti xalase h eikona ths Elladas;

TSALIKA: Gia thn eleyqeria ths plhroforhshs gia to paranoiko systhma asfaleias, ola ayta, dhladh an kati peqane sthn Ellada, htan h eleyqeria ths plhroforhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Einai anakribhs h plhroforhsh poy exete.

KEFALA: Kai omws ayto egine. Dwsame ayto poy egine. Hmastan parontes oloi oi antapokrites sthn Olympia, hmastan kai sto Panaqhnaiko Stadio, sto Kallimarmaro thn Kyriakh. Ayto poy eidame eidika me toys aktibistes, ayto poy egine me thn Kina kai me ta ``free Tibet'', mporei na htan liga atoma, omws to dwsame. Den yparxei ellhniko kanali, ellhnikh efhmerida poy na edwse ayto to pragma. Kai ayto poy sxoliazan...

ANTWNAROS: Eyxaristws, na sas deijw tis ellhnikes efhmerides, oi opoies dhmosieysan kai sxetikes plhrofories.

KEFALA: Na sas tis deijw kai egw...

ANTWNAROS: En pash periptwsei, h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia to sygkekrimeno qema, einai safhs. Exw kanei dhlwsh h opoia kai isxyei.

TSALIKA: Den einai qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Einai (den akoygetai). Thn perasmenh ebdomada, mia kakh eikona ths Elladas bghke se ola ta gallika kanalia kai se oles tis gallikes efhmerides. Kat` arxhn den qelame ayto to pragma. Lew, ti kanoyme twra;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti amfisbhtw kata poson h eikona einai ayth thn opoia paroysiazete eseis.

NIKOLAOY: Qelw na rwthsw, h apofash toy NATO, kata poso bohqa sth synexish twn diapragmateysewn me ta Skopia;

ANTWNAROS: Qa epanalabw: Den lambanetai apofash gia na apeyqynqei prosklhsh se sygkekrimenh xwra, efoson estw kai mia allh xwra-melos den synainei. H Ellada ejefrase, kateqese tis antirrhseis ths kai ws pros toyto den diatypwqhke h prosklhsh, opws problepotan, pros thn Prwhn Gioygkoslabikh Dhmokratia ths Makedonias na ginei melos toy NATO.

NIKOLAOY: Na diatypwsw alliws thn erwthsh;

ANTWNAROS: H Ellada epimenei oti den qa ginei melos h en logw xwra, efoson den lyqei to qema ths onomasias. Fantazomai, ayth h prooptikh einai ena kalo kinhtro gia th geitonikh mas xwra wste na antapokriqei sto qetiko, epoikodomhtiko tropo, me ton opoio h Ellada proseggizei to qema ths onomasias.

KEFALA: H Ellada qa anagnwrisei to Kosobo;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn osa exei pei o k. Koymoytsakos. Den exei allajei tipote. Emas, ekeino poy mas endiaferei einai h staqerothta sthn perioxh.

KEFALA: Ean blepete oti yparxei mia staqerothta sthn perioxh, qa anagnwrisete to Kosobo, etsi;

ANTWNAROS: Ean symbei kati tetoio, qa enhmerwqeite.

TSALIKA: Mhpws exete plhrofories gia to pote erxetai o k. Sarkozi sthn Ellada;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

KEFALA: Na allajw qema. Ayto to prama me thn eleyqerh symbiwsh pisteyete oti qa isxysei kai gia toys omofylofiloys;

ANTWNAROS: Den problepetai kati tetoio sto ypo kataqesh nomosxedio. Sto prwto toy arqro ginetai anafora oti isxyei gia toys eterofyloys. Einai safhs h prwtoboylia.

KEFALA: Den einai antisyntagmatiko ayto;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den kataqetei nomoqethmata sth Boylh, ta opoia exoyn antisyntagmatiko xarakthra.

KEFALA: Prospaqw na katalabw ayth thn katastash, ti ginetai sthn Ellada.

ANTWNAROS: To nomosxedio poy prokeitai na kataqesei, prokeitai na syzhthqei sth Boylh, katopin prwtoboylias toy k. Xatzhgakh, toy Ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs, anaferetai stoys eterofyloys. Den exw tipote allo na sas pw, panw se ayto.

KEFALA: Kai den yparxei mia problech sto mellon na ginei kai gia toys omofylofiloys;

ANTWNAROS: Ayth th stigmh oxi. Ej oswn gnwrizw, yparxei mia skech na systaqei apo to Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, mia epitroph gia na melethsei ayto to qema. Alla den einai proqesh toy sygkekrimenoy nomosxedioy. Ayto einai safes.

TSALIKA: Shmera eixame dyskolia na erqoyme edw me ta lewforeia kai to metro. Pws blepete ta pragmata na phgainoyn thn ebdomada poy erxetai me to Asfalistiko;

ANTWNAROS: To Asfalistiko chfisthke th Deytera oristika sth Boylh. Den tiqetai qema mh isxyos h mh efarmoghs toy. Paei ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias meta th xqesinh oristikopoihsh kai toy qematos th mh diejagwghs dhmochfismatos, qa akoloyqhqei h synhqhs diadikasia kai meta th dhmosieysh toy chfisqentos nomoy pia sthn Efhmerida ths Kybernhsews, qa arxisei h isxys toy, opws problepei to idio to nomosxedio kai opws problepoyn oi metabatikes diatajeis toy.

KEFALA: Oti prokalei gkrinia kai genika enoxlhsh sthn ellhnikh koinwnia, den sas peirazei;

ANTWNAROS: Pisteyw, oti h megalh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn qa diapistwsei poly grhgora ta wfelhmata poy exei apo thn efarmogh toy nomosxedioy. Kaqe metarryqmish den einai eykolh metarryqmish.

KEFALA: Kai ti ginetai kai se alles eyrwpaikes xwres, opws eipame gia th Gallia, einai to idio pragma kai den fainetai poly qetiko genika gia tis koinwnies.

ANTWNAROS: Oi kybernhseis, opws kai alloy, etsi kai edw, exoyn thn eyqynh ths ylopoihshs olwn twn politikwn desmeysewn poy exoyn analabei.

TSALIKA: Mporeite na mas enhmerwsete ligo gia thn ypoqesh Zaxopoyloy;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, giati einai qema dikastiko kai den afora thn kybernhsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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