Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-01-21

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 21 Ianoyarioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 117167707

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 21 Ianoyarioy 2008

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio, stis 11.00 synedriazei, sto Megaro Majimoy, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw, se poia hmeromhnia, h kybernhsh parelabe to epimaxo DVD kai to erwtw ayto, dioti yparxei seira dhmosieymatwn poy amfisbhtoyn oti ayto to yliko exei perielqei sta xeria sas stis 17 toy mhnos Dekembrioy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei kai seira dikwn moy apanthsewn, stis opoies kai sas parapempw.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o dhmosiografos, ekdoths k. Anastasiadhs eipe shmera ston Anakrith oti ``egw den parelaba DVD, oyte edwsa, oyte phra DVD''. Exete na mas apanthsete kati; Giati afora to steno synergath toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ton k. Andriano.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei hdh. Ti na sas pw perissotero; Kai o k. Andrianos exei apanthsei kai egw exw apanthsei kai ston Anakrith exei apanthsei.

KORAH: Gia na to freskaroyme, etsi kai ligo. Dhladh, o k. Andrianos epimenei sthn arxikh toy apoch oti parelabe DVD apo to dhmosiografo...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai arxikh apoch. Ayth einai h alhqeia.

ROYMELIWTHS: Poia einai h apanthsh sas se ypoyrgoys kai stelexh ths paratajhs poy kanoyn logo gia adynamia xeirismoy toy qematos Zaxopoyloy se o,ti afora ta epikoinwniaka kai gia elleich enhmerwshs, etsi wste na exoyn koinh epixeirhmatologia; Polloi malista ``fwtografizoyn'' kai esas ws ypeyqyno...

ROYSOPOYLOS: De gnwrizw na yparxei kapoia dhlwsh, alla, opws sas exw pei, oles oi apoceis einai sebastes.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mia dieykrinish, kyrie Ekproswpe. Epeidh grafetai kai anaparagetai synexws kai apo thleorasews, alla kai apo tis efhmerides, oti ektos apo ekeino to sygkekrimeno epimaxo ranteboy toy k. Andrianoy me ton en logw dhmosiografo, yphrjan kai alles epafes mazi toy, eite thlefwnikes, eite dia zwshs. Exete ypoch sas eseis kati tetoio; Kai ennow  mia dieykrinish ean epitrepete- kai prin to epimaxo ranteboy, alla kai meta to epimaxo ranteboy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To qema exei ejantlhqei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ma, pws exei ejantlhqei, afoy yparxoyn erwthseis;

MELISSOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera sthn efhmerida ``BRADYNH'', o Dhmarxos Aqhnaiwn k. Kaklamanhs kanei protash gia sygkybernhsh. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prin apo ligoys mhnes ejelegh h Nea Dhmokratia kai opws gnwrizete, kyberna ton topo.

SARANTAKOS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia to qema poy apokalyptei shmera, prwtoselida, to ``EQNOS'', oti oi toyrkikes arxes dinoyn th dynatothta ston hgeth twn Koyrdwn Ampntoylax Otsalan, na prosfygei kata toy Ellhnikoy Dhmosioy. Kai malista, Ellhnas dikhgoros qa metabei sto Imrali gia na synennohqei mazi toy kai na prosfygei, oysiastika, gia ta gegonota, ta gnwsta dhladh, kai oti den diasfalisthke oso qa eprepe apo tis ellhnikes Arxes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na sxoliasw, giati den exoyme kamia peraiterw plhroforia. To diabasa kai egw to dhmosieyma, alla den exw kati.

SARANTAKOS: Qa to diereynhsete; Dhladh, parapanw eseis, mesw ths presbeias mas h en pash periptwsei...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia na sas apanthsw etsi, shmainei oti mexri twra, apo ayta ta opoia rwthsa, me bash to dhmosieyma, den yparxei kati perissotero to opoio na mporw na sas pw. Den exw, dhladh, epibebaiwsh ths plhroforias.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti h apoch toy k. Andrianoy einai h alhqeia. Wstoso, to 70% twn politwn pisteyei oti den qa apokalyfqei h alhqeia sthn ypoqesh Zaxopoyloy. Pisteyete oti exoyn adiko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me bazete na apanthsw se mia dhmoskophsh. Sas exw pei thn apoch moy gia tis dhmoskophseis.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mia ligo pio genikh erwthsh: Eseis eiste Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos. Synomileite me dhmosiografoys, me dieyqyntes kai me ekdotes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Syxna, kaqhmerina.

NASOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, anejarthta apo thn ypoqesh Zaxopoyloy, apo thn istoria toy DVD, stis 17 Dekembrioy, se synanthseis poy eixe ekeinh thn hmera o k. Andrianos, yphrje kai synanthsh me ton k. Qemo Anastasiadh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na pw tipote perissotero, gi` ayth thn istoria. Dhladh, gia na sas apanthsw, giati qa bgalete diafora symperasmata: Opws gnwrizete, den anakoinwnw, oyte egw ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, oyte kaneis allos ypoyrgos, poly perissotero o Dieyqynths toy Grafeioy Typoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, to programma twn synanthsewn me dhmosiografoys. Qa sas arese esas na synantiomaste xqes kai na miloysame kai na ebgaina sto press room, kai na elega, ``xqes synanthqhka me ton k. Nasopoylo kai ta eipame gia mia wra''. Dhladh, exoyme fqasei  epanalambanw- na daimonopoioyme mia sxesh politikwn-dhmosiografwn, h opoia, de nomizw, oti prepei na daimonopoieitai. Den daimonopoihqhke pote kai poyqena, se kanena shmeio toy planhth. Pros Qeoy!

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, nwritera eixame mia synenteyjh toy k. Giannh Kefalogiannh, o opoios, metajy allwn, afhse aixmes kai kata ths oikogeneias Mhtsotakh. To diko moy erwthma einai, an oi diapistwseis aytes toy k. Kefalogiannh, o opoios einai kai symboylos toy Prwqypoyrgoy, symfwnei o Prwqypoyrgos h diafwnei kai (den akoygetai) to kaqista safes sto synergath toy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw th dhlwsh, alla kai na th gnwriza, opws jerete den kanw tetoia sxolia.

ARMENHS: Pws sxoliazete dhlwseis, topoqethseis, den jerw ti akribws einai, toy k. Tatoylh, toy boyleyth, oti shmera den yparxoyn hgetes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h prohgoymenh apanthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poia apo oles;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H prohgoymenh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poia; Oti den ``sxoliazw'' h den ``gnwrizw'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den sxoliazw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa sas qesw ena erwthma, to opoio eqese xqes dhmosiws o boyleyths toy LA.O.S. k. Belopoylos. Eseis gnwrizate gia thn istoria me ton k. Klada, oxi akribws istoria me ton Klada, gia to qema toy trapezikoy logariasmoy toy k. Qemoy Anastasiadh, oti htan anoixtos sthn istoria ayth... ;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa perimena oi boyleytes na mhn prospaqoyn na ypokatasthsoyn toys dhmosiografoys. O boyleyths exei th diadikasia twn erwthsewn sth Boylh. Mporei na moy ypoballei erwthsh, ean qelei.

PALAIOLOGOS: To diatypwse, omws, dhmosia ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Dhmosies einai kai oi erwthseis sth Boylh.

GALIATSATOS: Thn Paraskeyh, o k. Samaras prosefere enqermh sthrijh ston Prwqypoyrgo. Thn Paraskeyh to brady, o k. Abramopoylos ekane to idio. Ayto poy qelw na sas rwthsw, einai, an pisteyete h krinete h an einai swsto na dhmioyrgeitai h entypwsh oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei anagkh apo tetoies dhlwseis sthrijhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs, oi boyleytes ths kybernhshs -opws eipa kai prohgoymenws kai exw pei kai alles fores- me aformh alla erwthmata, ekfrazoyn eleyqera tis apoceis toys.

SARANTAKOS: Qewreite, kyrie Ekproswpe, oti ta kommata sthn Ellada kai h Nea Dhmokratia, xreiazontai metarryqmish, se domh kai leitoyrgia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayth einai mia poly megalh syzhthsh, h opoia nomizw oti jefeygei twn armodiothtwn toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy. Ta synedria twn kommatwn  kanw mia parekbash, giati to synhqes einai o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos na mhn apanta se tetoia erwthmata poy aforoyn ta kommata- einai bebaio oti stoxeyoyn sth diarkh beltiwsh. Oi apoceis poy akoygontai apo stelexh twn kommatwn, epishs. Ayto, toylaxiston, pisteyw egw.

MELISSOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, apo mia dhmoskophsh poy eide xqes to fws ths dhmosiothtas diafainetai pws sth koinh gnwmh, toylaxiston me bash ta eyrhmata ths ereynas ayths, yparxei mia genikeymenh apogohteysh apenanti sta dyo kommata ejoysias. Prwton, sas problhmatizei ayto; Kai deyteron, ektimate oti mporeite na apokleisete kai sto mellon mia endexomenh periptwsh anagkastikhs h oxi synergasias megalwn kommatwn me bash kai ton eklogiko nomo poy yparxei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oson afora to deytero skelos toy erwthmatos sas poy einai kaqara ypoqetiko, de xreiazetai na apanthsw. Eixame ekloges prin apo ligo kairo. Yparxei aytodynamia. Den apantw. Den exei nohma, dhladh na apanthsw. Oson afora to prwto skelos toy erwthmatos sas, dhladh, to an mas problhmatizei: Fysika. Kai nomizw oti kaqe politikos o opoios sebetai ton eayto toy, kaqe kybernhsh poy sebetai ton eayto ths, kaqe komma to idio, problhmatizetai apo tis apoceis poy ekfrazontai apo thn koinh gnwmh, mesa apo to gnwsto ergaleio doyleias poy einai oi dhmoskophseis. Alimono sto komma ekeino to opoio den pairnei ta mhnymata ths koinhs gnwmhs.

MELISSOPOYLOS: Ean moy epitrepete, mia synexeia ep` aytoy. Pera apo ton problhmatismo, pws sxediazete na ``antidrasete'' eseis, oytws wste na anatrecete ayto to klima poy yparxei sthn koinh gnwmh. Ti prwtoboylies anamenetai na parete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O monos dromos poy menei se ena komma kai eidika se ena komma to opoio diekdikei thn ejoysia h einai hdh sthn ejoysia, einai o dromos ths synepeias, o dromos ths alhqeias, o dromos twn allagwn kai twn metarryqmisewn. Ayto to dromo exei epilejei h Nea Dhmokratia, ws kybernhsh, kai ayton akoloyqei. Dyskolies yparxoyn kai qa yparxoyn, se ola ta qemata sthn kaqhmerinothta mas, alla h synepeia, h epimonh sto stoxo, sth strathgikh, dhladh, thn opoia exei xarajei einai ayth poy telika se dikaiwnei.

GALIATSATOS: Sth dhmoskophsh thn opoia epikalesthke o k. Melissopoylos prokyptei oti oi polites aisqanontai ntroph kai qymo gia th diafqora kai epeidh eseis to 2004 ekleghkate me mia apo tis kentrikoteres yposxeseis poy eixate dwsei tote, oti qa eprepe na katapolemhsete kai na antimetwpisete th diafqora, pws blepete ayth th diaqesh toy kosmoy tessera xronia meta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prwton, qewrw oti, to na aisqanetai kaneis qymo gia opoiadhpote zhthmata diafqoras einai to apolytws fysiologiko. Ayto symbainei, sas diabebaiw, sthn kybernhsh se ola ta stelexh ths. Kai aytos einai kai o gnwmonas gia ton opoio mia seira apo metarryqmiseis eixan ws stoxo toys th diafaneia. Deyteron, ean sygxeoyme dhmioyrgwntas mia axly  kai to ``dhmioyrgwntas'' den enexei, bebaiws, kamia aixmh se esas h ston opoiosdhpote allo, sthn aiqoysa ayth- katastaseis me thn ennoia ths diafqoras. Kai anaferomai sta teleytaia gegonota.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qewreite ws kybernhsh, lhjan to qema me to boyleyth poy mesolabhse gia thn ypoqesh toy trapezikoy logariasmoy ston k. Makh Triantafyllopoylo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na pw kati perissotero. Exw apanthsei dyo fores gia to qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Perimenete, dhladh, na oloklhrwsei o k. Triantafyllopoylos thn kataggelia toy, opws exete pei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei oti exw pei.

ARMENHS: Prosfata yphrje ena dhmosieyma sthn efhmerida ``AYRIANH'', oti h kybernhsh etoimazetai na agorasei ena terastio aeroskafos VIP, kostoys 100 ekatommyriwn dolariwn. Eixe ginei erwthsh kai sto briefing. Kai malista, elege to dhmosieyma, oti h agora qa ginei kai ektos diagwnismoy. Eixe pei o Anaplhrwths Ekproswpos oti qa enhmerwqei gia na apanthsei. Yparxei kapoia apanthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Katarxas, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph exei dwsei odhgies, gia na ginei meleth skopimothtas. Opote den yparxei kati kainoyrgio ep` aytoy. Otan exw, qa sas pw.

KAKALHS: Gia na epanelqw sth dhmoskophsh. Oi polites, epishs, qewroyn oti oyte h Nea Dhmokratia, oyte to PASOK mporoyn na lysoyn ta problhmata ths kaqhmerinothtas, ennoeitai. Ayto shmainei oti h politikh poy efarmozetai einai anikanh, profanws, na dwsei tetoies lyseis. Giati pisteyete oti yparxei ayth h aisqhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Moy zhtate na kanw krish, giati pisteyw oti o kosmos qewrei ayto to opoio eipate. Egw pisteyw oti h monh asfalhs krish einai oti ta zhthmata ths kaqhmerinothtas, ta opoia mas apasxoloyn oloys, einai -kai ayto fainetai sthn pragmatikothta- to basiko kommati mias politikhs thn opoia prospaqhsame na anaptyjoyme kai anaptyssoyme apo to 2004 mexri shmera. Dhladh, h antimetwpish zhthmatwn ths kaqhmerinothtas toy polith. Kai sta zhthmata ayta emperiexetai mia seira apo qemata. Gia paradeigma, h ayjhsh twn syntajewn se megalytero pososto apo thn ayjhsh twn misqwn. Einai antimetwpish, se ena baqmo, mias pragmatikothtas problhmatwn ths kaqhmerinothtas. H epistrofh toy LAFKA, einai kai ayth se ena baqmo, antimetwpish problhmatwn ths kaqhmerinothtas. Mia seira apo tetoia problhmata ths kaqhmerinothtas, ta antimetwpizei h kybernhsh sth diarkeia twn tessarwn etwn poy parhlqan kai synexizei na ta antimetwpizei. Mhpws den einai zhthmata ths kaqhmerinothtas ta qemata poy aforoyn thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish, ta qemata poy aforoyn to mellon twn genewn, se oti exei na kanei me to asfalistiko mas systhma, to systhma koinwnikhs asfalishs; Ola ayta ta problhmata antimetwpizontai. Den lynontai apo th mia mera sthn allh. Mhpws den einai zhthma ths kaqhmerinothtas to gegonos oti ayth h xwra, prin apo triamisi molis xronia eixe sxedon 8% elleimma kai twra exei pesei katw apo to 3%; Einai ena zhthma.

KAKALHS: Parola ayta, ean moy epitrepete, h syntriptikh pleiochfia qewrei oti einai apogohteymenh apo thn politikh poy efarmozetai, akribws gi` ayto to logo. Alla hqela na symplhrwsw thn erwthsh legontas oti eseis eixate pei, h kybernhsh genikotera diabebaiwne oti apo ta Asfalistika Tameia den qa xaqei oyte exei xaqei oyte ena eyrw. Alla hdh apo tis ependyseis, sta domhmena omologa blepoyme na xanoyn 500-600 ekatommyria, qa mas peite, ep` aytoy ti exete na sxoliasete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei, epishs, mia seira apo alla zhthmata, sta opoia mporei na anaferqei kapoios. Anaferqhka sto qema twn omologwn otan rwthqhka kai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada. Mia seira alla zhthmata einai: Qemata anergias, gia paradeigma, sthn kaqhmerinothta mas. H anergia kalpaze me ryqmoys sxedon ths tajhs toy 12% kai meiwqhke katw apo to 8%. H kaqhmerinothta aytwn twn politwn, twn sxedon 300.000 Ellhnwn politwn allaje ardhn apo to 2004 kai sthn poreia ws to 2008 poy eimaste shmera. Kai allaje epi ta beltiw. Se o,ti afora to qema twn omologwn, epanalambanw den exw na prosqesw perissotera pragmata. Exw, hdh, pei para polla kai gia tis diadikasies me tis opoies kineitai pia h logikh, oxi ths kybernhshs, alla toy kratoys, synolika ths Politeias, gia thn topoqethsh dioikhsewn sta Tameia kai gia ton elegxo, o opoios einai dhmosios kai einai elegxos se poly kalytero poiotiko epipedo  an moy epitrepete na pw- apo tote poy kai h Epitroph Kefalaiagoras kai h Trapeza ths Elladas exoyn mpei sth diadikasia ayth.

ARMENHS: Sas eixa rwthsei gia to ti exei kanei h kybernhsh sto qema ths antimetwpishs ths mastigas twn narkwtikwn. Eixate pei, qa enhmerwqeite kai qa moy dwsete analytikh enhmerwsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eixa mia makra syzhthsh  tote- kai enhmerwsh apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio Koinwnikhs Asfalishs, sto opoio sas eixa parapemcei. Dystyxws, den exw mazi moy twra ta stoixeia ayta, giati perasan polles hmeres apo tote. Qa frontisw na ta promhqeytw kai na sas ta ferw. Eixa kai mia allh erwthsh gia thn egklhmatikothta. Den exw mazi moy ta stoixeia. Qa frontisw na zhthsw apo to ypoyrgeio na moy ta janadwsei kai na sas ta pw.

KORAH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ean o dieyqynths toy grafeioy Typoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Andrianos klhqei apo ton eidiko anakrith gia kat` antiparastash ejetash me ton k. Anastasiadh, qa proselqei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete oti prwton, den apantw se ypoqetikes erwthseis. Deyteron, o anakriths kanei th doyleia toy, kai as afhsoyme na kanei th doyleia toy opws ekeinos krinei. Triton, yparxei mia pagia apanthsh thn opoia exw dwsei se diafora zhthmata poy aptontai kai toy shmerinoy erwthmatos sas: H kybernhsh sebetai to Syntagma, sebetai ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs kai thn keimenh nomoqesia.

XIWTHS: Exete labei eseis klhteysh gia na kataqesete ston anakrith;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

XIWTHS: Kai ena deytero qema, entelws diaforetiko, alla mporei na qewrhqei kai synafes. Eixate dhlwsei sto parelqon oti den exei antirrhsh h kybernhsh gia opoiadhpote systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, arkei na exei oloklhrwqei h ereyna poy diejagei h Dikaiosynh. Sthn ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn, h ereyna oloklhrwqhke. Na eikasw, synepws, oti twra pleon h kybernhsh apodexetai to aithma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs gia Ejetastikh Epitroph;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa kanw mia-dyo parathrhseis panw sto qema ayto. H prwth anafora sas, ontws isxyei. Ayth einai, se o,ti exei na kanei me dhlwseis palaioteres kai dikes moy kai genikotera kybernhtikwn stelexwn. As pame sto eidiko qema: Sto eidiko qema, opws gnwrizete, yphrje ereyna ths Dikaiosynhs kai parallhla yphrje kai mia makra syzhthsh sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs. Den exei anakritiko xarakthra h Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias, wstoso eklhqh mia seira apo proswpa -ta kentrika proswpa kai kapoia deytereyonta- gia na milhsoyn ekei. Ean eixe katalhjei h Dikaiosynh, prwton, sthn apokalych fysikoy proswpoy h se politiko proswpo to opoio na empleketai, einai bebaio oti o eisaggeleas, o opoios dienhrghse thn ereyna, qa estelne thn ypoqesh -nomizw oti htan efeths anakriths- sth Boylh kai ekei pia qa yphrxe lelogismenh bash gia na ginei opoiadhpote energeia apo thn pleyra ths Boylhs. Apo th stigmh poy den yparxei tetoioy eidoys fysiko proswpo h politiko proswpo ws aporroia ths ereynas ths Dikaiosynhs, den blepoyme to logo giati na ginei ayth h Ejetastikh Epitroph.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ep` aytoy k. Ekproswpe. Epeidh prosfata, thn Paraskeyh, sthn omilia toy o k. Papandreoy, epeidh parapempete sth Dikaiosynh, anarwthqhke gia poia Dikaiosynh milame, otan apo th mia exoyme thn ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn poy teqhke sto arxeio prosfatws kai apo thn allh exoyme thn ypoqesh twn omologwn poy epishs mphke sto syrtari. Kai milaw twra gia dhlwseis toy Proedroy toy PASOK, den einai dikes moy, metaferw tis dhlwseis toy. Ti apantate apo th stigmh poy eseis parapempete sth Dikaiosynh kai sth leitoyrgia ths Dikaiosynhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apantw oti enw o k. Papandreoy kai to PASOK epi seira etwn twra exoyn dyo metra kai dyo staqma gia th Dikaiosynh, emeis paramenoyme staqeroi se mia apoch: Sebomaste th Dikaiosynh. To PASOK -kai o k. Papandreoy, dystyxws, exei prosxwrhsei se ayth thn apoch- analoga me tis apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs, krinoyn kata periptwsh. An dhladh pisteyoyn oti symferei politika to komma toys mia apofash, tote thn ekmetalleyontai kai dinoyn ta eyshma sth Dikaiosynh. An pisteyoyn oti den symferei politikh ekmetalleysh apo to komma toys, tote ftaiei h Dikaiosynh. Lypoymai, alla ayth h taktikh ypotima kai th Dikaiosynh, dhladh toys qesmoys, alla kai to idio to PASOK, to qesmo ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

XIWTHS: Moy epitrepete na epanelqw sto qema. H Ejetastikh Epitroph einai ena organo koinoboyleytiko, to opoio den ereyna mono poinikes eyqynes, opws diereynhse h Dikaiosynh, alla kai politikes. O anakriths, endexomenws na mhn mporese na entopisei politikes eyqynes kai logiko einai. Giati arneitai h kybernhsh th diereynhsh ths ypoqeshs apo th Boylh gia na diapistwsoyme an yparxoyn tyxon politikes eyqynes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai mono qema eyqynwn. Milame gia proswpa. Edw den yphrje oyte proswpo, oytws wste na dikaiologei thn apostolh, logw tyxon politikwn eyqynwn pros th Boylh, enos porismatos. Den eftase, den brhke kati. An ebriske h Dikaiosynh, einai bebaion oti qa to estelne sth Boylh. Exete kanei koinoboyleytiko reportaz epi polla xronia kai to gnwrizete poly kala ayto.

NASOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gia to qema twn ypoklopwn pali. Einai dedomeno oti yphrje ena zhthma. Eginan ypoklopes. To anakoinwsate eseis o idios me ton k. Boylgarakh tote. O idios o Prwqypoyrgos parakoloyqeito. Erxetai twra ena porisma apo thn pleyra ths Dikaiosynhs, poy amfisbhteitai. Sthn pragmatikothta h leei oti den yphrje zhthma h leei oti den mporesame na broyme emeis tipota giati den eixame ta mesa ws Dikaiosynh h leei oti den briskw kanenan ypeyqyno. Aiwreitai poios einai o ypeyqynos. Poy katalhgei h kybernhsh; Poio apo ta tria isxyei apo thn pleyra ths Dikaiosynhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To yp' ariqmon ena qema einai oti h kybernhsh qa hqele perissotero kai panw apo oloys toys alloys, apo aytoys poy ginontai shmera khnsores kai qerapontes, na jerei poioi parakoloyqoysan ton Prwqypoyrgo ths xwras. Giati parakoloyqoysan ton Prwqypoyrgo ths xwras, o opoios einai kai Proedros ths Neas Dhmokratias. Den parakoloyqoysan ton Prwqypoyrgo toy PASOK. Ara, loipon, h kybernhsh einai ekeinh poy prwth qa hqele na gnwrizei. Sto deytero qema  dhladh ayto peri twn eyqynwn, toy fysikoy proswpoy h twn fysikwn proswpwn to opoio qa qelame na jerame- dystyxws h ereyna ths Dikaiosynhs den katelhje sto na anadeijei kapoio tetoio proswpo.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, me thn apofash ayth ths Dikaiosynhs gia parapomph ths ypoqeshs sto arxeio, yparxei ena qema genikotero, paradexetai synolika h Politeia oti den mporei na prostateyqei, na aytoprostateyqei  na to pw etsi- apo tetoies parakoloyqhseis thlefwnwn kai ara einai anoikto to edafos gia na epanalhfqei to fainomeno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se mia ypoqesh kai sth shmerinh epoxh ths anaptygmenhs texnologias, den mporese h Dikaiosynh dystyxws na dwsei apanthsh sto poios htan ekeinos poy parakoloyqoyse to thlefwno toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ypoyrgwn ths kybernhshs ths Neas Dhmokratias.

KAKALHS: Alloi kratikoi mhxanismoi den yparxoyn gia na qwrakisoyn thn Politeia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H Dikaiosynh eixe ola ta mesa sth diaqesh ths. Eimai bebaios oti ejhntlhse kaqe orio, dystyxws omws den edwse apanthsh.

KORAH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, tis teleytaies hmeres parakoloyqoyme kapoies dhlwseis kai kinhseis synergatwn koryfaiwn ypoyrgwn. As poyme th stenh filh kai politiko k. Kelly Mpoyrdara, ths ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, na dhlwnei oti qa yparjei kai gynaika prwqypoyrgos, thn apanthsh, opws ermhneyqhke, toy k. Abramopoyloy kai toy k. Samara poy sthrizoyn enqermws ton Prwqypoyrgo, thn epiqesh poy dexqhke shmera h k. Ntora Mpakogiannh apo ton k. Giannh Kefalogiannh, milwntas to prwi sth NET. Exete kai eseis thn aisqhsh oti yparxei mia kinhsh sto xwro ths delfinologias oti kapoia stelexh arxisan apo twra na blepoyn th metakaramanlikh epoxh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw pws o,ti kai na pw qa ermhneyqei me diaforetiko tropo. Qa protimhsw, loipon, na sas pw pragmatikothtes tis opoies gnwrizoyme oloi mas. Gnwrizoyme oloi mas oti h Nea Dhmokratia ws kybernhsh, stis allages poy efere ston eklogiko nomo  kai eimai bebaios oti qa to epanalabei kai o Prwqypoyrgos shmera to apogeyma, milwntas sthn koph ths pitas ths Organwshs Gynaikwn ths Neas Dhmokratias- einai ekeino to komma poy efere ryqmish, wste to 1/3 twn ypochfiwn se olh th xwra na einai gynaikes. H Nea Dhmokratia einai to komma ekeino to opoio enisxyse th gynaikeia dynamh stoys kommatikoys mhxanismoys, edw kai para polla xronia, epi arxhgias Kwsta Karamanlh. Ean me rwtate, an qa ginei Prwqypoyrgos gynaika sto mellon ston topo, den mporw na to jerw. Alla einai bebaio oti oso pio polles gynaikes asxoloyntai me thn politikh, toso pio poly ayjanontai kai oi piqanothtes. Einai bebaio oti ajies gynaikes yparxoyn shmera kai askoyn politikh. Ara, loipon, ti moy zhtate; Na mantecw to mellon; Den to jerw. Fantazomai oyte kai eseis. Pantws, egw sas eyxomai, an asxolhqeite me thn politikh, na ftasete ws gynaika sta ypata ajiwmata.

KORAH: Apokleietai.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa arghsoyme, omws, mexri twra. H k. Mpoyrdara ennooyse twra grhgora, twra konta.

KORAH: Den me exei kalycei h apanthsh sas. Na th qesw diaforetika thn erwthsh. Blepete na plhsiazei h metakaramanlikh epoxh h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas qymizw oti apanthse o idios o Prwqypoyrgos  kai nomiza oti qa to qymaste, allwste exete empeiria sto reportaz- prin apo poly ligo kairo sth dieqnh Ekqesh Qessalonikhs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Lew oti apanthse kai o k. Samaras prosfata, proxqes malista. Ekane mia dhlwsh o k. Samaras.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete erwthsh h aplws phrate to mikrofwno na kanete parathrhsh;

MELISSOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dyo erwthmata. To prwto: Akoysa thn Paraskeyh ton k. Prwqypoyrgo na kleinei thn apanthsh toy pros ton k. Alabano, legontas oti h kybernhsh oyte ekbiazetai, oyte ekbiazei. Ayth h apanthsh, ayto to sygkekrimeno skelos, apeyqynotan mono ston k. Alabano;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O logos toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai safhs. Den xreiazetai ermhneia.

MELISSOPOYLOS: To deytero erwthma. Eblepa, shmera to prwi sta kanalia, boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias kai toy PASOK na antiparatiqentai kai ayto poy moy ekane entypwsh einai pws kentriko epixeirhma twn boyleytwn ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs htan to ejhs: Pws eseis, h kybernhsh, den brhkate tipota gia emas, gia to PASOK. Den kleisate kapoion sth fylakh, ara den yphrxan skandala. Qa hqela ena sxolio ep` aytoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei polles fores, alla qa kanw mono mia anafora ston tropo me ton opoio xeiristhke to PASOK thn ypoqesh toy Xrhmatisthrioy, sto oti dhladh nomoqethse etsi wste na allajoyn eyqynes kai na mhn yparxoyn eyqynes se politiko epipedo. To gnwrizoyn oloi oi Ellhnes. Gnwrizoyn poly kala, dhladh, oti h ypoqesh ths DEKA den teleiwse dioti den breqhkan stoixeia, alla giati to PASOK eixe frontisei ws kybernhsh na balei nomika proskommata sthn ypoqesh ayth.

PALAILOGOS: Hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: Qa epanelqw sthn ypoqesh toy DVD. Yparxei qema ajiopistias dhmosiografikhs kai proswpikhs toy k. Qemoy Anastasiadh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kamia allh apanthsh.

SPYRAKH: Exei perielqei ypoch ths kybernhshs h kataggelia toy prwhn ypoyrgoy kai boyleyth ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Manwlh Kefalogiannh oti htan o idios antikeimeno prospaqeias ekbiashs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To diabasa, alla den mporesa na epikoinwnhsw mazi toy kai na maqw leptomereies.

SPYRAKH: Ara, den exete eikona gia to ti akribws ennooyse o k. ypoyrgos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

XIWTHS: Qewreite qetikh, eynoikh th sygkyria me thn opoia episkeptetai o Prwqypoyrgos thn Agkyra, otan mono thn Paraskeyh yphrjan dyo kroysmata sto Aigaio, mia parenoxlhsh elikopteroy se ellhnikh aktaiwro kai symfwna me ena dhmosieyma poy diabazw shmera sta NEA kai kataskopeytiko skafos konta sthn Kymh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia thn episkech ayth kaq` ayth, exoyme topoqethqei. Se o,ti afora to sygkekrimeno gia to opoio me rwtate, qelw na pw oti oi opoies parabatikes toyrkikes energeies sto Aigaio, exoyn amesh apanthsh toso se diplwmatiko, oso kai se epixeirhsiako epipedo.

Sas eyxaristw.

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