Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-01-17

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 17 Ianoyarioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 116492896

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 17 Ianoyarioy 2008

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O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa pragmatopoihsei epishmh episkech sthn Toyrkia, apo tis 23 ews tis 25 Ianoyarioy, katopin prosklhsews toy Prwqypoyrgoy ths Toyrkias k. Retzep Tagip Erntogan. Kata th diarkeia ths episkecews, oi dyo Prwqypoyrgoi qa ejetasoyn qemata dimeroys kai dieqnoys endiaferontos.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epeidh anaferqhkate sto tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ofeilw na sas pw oti sthn Kypro yparxoyn memcimoiries, oson afora ta qemata poy qa qesei o k. Karamanlhs ston k. Erntogan. Sas diabazw apla enan titlo ``H Aqhna epidiwkei hsyxo dihmero Karamanlh sthn Agkyra''. Sas erwtw eyqews: Qa qesei o k. Karamanlhs to Kypriako sto trapezi twn synomiliwn;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, proseggizei pantote me aisqhma eyqynhs ola ta qemata poy aptontai twn eqnikwn symferontwn.

KAKALHS: Ep` aytoy, sto trapezi twn synomiliwn qa teqoyn oi diekdikhseis ths Agkyras sto Aigaio kai th Qrakh;

ANTWNAROS: Me rwtate, profanws, gia th stash ths allhs pleyras. Qa prepei na apeyqynqeite gia th stash ths allhs pleyras, sthn allh pleyra. Egw ekproswpw, enwpion sas, thn ellhnikh kybernhsh kai molis topoqethqhka ek meroys ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

ARMENHS: To plhres programma ths episkechs toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Toyrkia, pote qa to exoyme; Kai qa hqela na rwthsw eidika, ean exei symperilhfqei sto programma h episkech toy k. Karamanlh sthn Imbro kai thn Tenedo.

ANTWNAROS: Otan oloklhrwqei to programma, opws ginetai panta, sas to gnwstopoioyme.

MPOYATAR: H ellhnikh pleyra, ti perimenei apo ayth thn episkech;

ANTWNAROS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh, h Ellada, opws gnwrizete, epidiwkei th synexh beltiwsh twn sxesewn twn dyo xwrwn. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh ergazomaste.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, jerete gia poio logo klhqhke gia deyterh fora, mesa se diasthma 48 wrwn, o k. Aggeloy, o Dieyqynths toy Politikoy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ston Anakrith;

ANTWNAROS: Epistrefontas o k. Giannhs Aggeloy proxqes sto grafeio toy, apo thn kataqesh poy ekane ston Anakrith epikoinwnhse o idios me ton Anakrith kai toy zhthse na epanelqei, prokeimenoy na toy gnwstopoihsei ena akomh gegonos. Oristhke, loipon, na epanelqei o k. Aggeloy sto grafeio toy Anakrith to prwi ths Pempths, dhladh shmera. Opws kai egine.

PALAIOLOGOS: Jerete gia to gegonos ayto to opoio qelhse na gnwstopoihsei; To dinete sth dhmosiothta h...

ANTWNAROS: Na sas ypenqymisw, gia mia akomh fora, oti h diejagwgh ths anakritikhs diadikasias, twn anakritikwn prajewn, symfwna me ton Kwdika Poinikhs Dikonomias, einai mystikh.

RABANOS: Gia poio logo o k. Aggeloy episkefqhke ton Anakrith 7.30 to prwi;

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai h wra h opoia oristhke apo ton Anakrith. Na mhn enoxopoioyme tis wres, parakalw.

RABANOS: Den einai synhqismeno, omws, 7.30 to prwi...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw tipote allo.

KAKALHS: To gegonos ayto, o k. Aggeloy to emaqe molis epestrece sto grafeio toy h jexase na to pei kata thn prohgoymenh...

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati parapanw ap` osa eipa gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

NASOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, egw sebomai to oti h kybernhsh threi th mystikothta ths anakrishs kai profanws den mporei na dwsei sth dhmosiothta to onoma toy komisth toy epimaxoy DVD, to opoio exei kataqesei o k. Andrianos. Epeidh yparxei, omws, mia jekaqarh kathgorhmatikh dhlwsh apo thn pleyra toy k. Qemoy Anastasiadh, qa mporoyse h kybernhsh na epibebaiwsei oti den exei anamijh o k. Anastasiadhs, oti h dhlwsh, h kathgorhmatikh, poy kanei, isxyei;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora oti oi diatajeis toy Kwdika ths Politikhs Dikonomias einai perissotero apo safeis, oson afora th mystikothta apo thn opoia periballontai oles aytes oi prajeis.

ROYMELIWTHS: Meta tis 17/12, epikoinwnhse pote jana me ton k. Andriano h me allon paragonta toy Megaroy Majimoy, o feromenos komisths, o dhmosiografos, o opoios paredwse to DVD;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixame na poyme gi` ayto to qema, to exoyme pei.

TSIOYFOS: O k. Anastasiadhs, isxyrizetai oti einai qyma mias skeywrias h opoia skeywria, opws o idios leei, exei organwqei apo kapoia kybernhtika kentra poy stoxo eixan ton idio kai thn efhmerida toy. Ti apantate eseis stoys isxyrismoys aytoys toy k. Anastasiadh;

ANTWNAROS: To qema exei ejantlhqei.

NASOPOYLOS: Egw zhtaw, kyrie Ekproswpe, na ejairesei h kybernhsh enan apo toys 5000 kai kati dhmosiografoys, o opoios epishs arneitai. Yparxei dhlwsh toy. Den zhtaw na parabiasete th mystikothta ths anakrishs.

ANTWNAROS: Emmesws, kanete ayto akribws. Egw, en pash periptwsei, den qa anaferqw se kanena stoixeio ths anakrishs gia mia ypoqesh, h diereynhsh ths opoias, opws gnwrizete, brisketai se ejelijh.

PALAIOLOGOS: H anakrish einai mystikh. Safestata.

ANTWNAROS: Xairomai poy to anagnwrizete.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oi diadikasies sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada einai ejisoy mystikes kai den katonomazete ton boyleyth, o opoios mesolabhse gia thn ypoqesh toy logariasmoy toy k. Anastasiadh;

ANTWNAROS: Den allaje tipota apo tis apanthseis poy edwse o k. Roysopoylos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Htan polles kai diafores kai den tis qymamai.

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw, qa sas promhqeysw ena antigrafo ths xqesinhs enhmerwshs, prokeimenoy na enhmerwqeite.

PALAIOLOGOS: O boyleyths aytos prepei na parameinei sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn oi apanthseis poy edwse o k. Roysopoylos.

KAKARNIAS: Xqes, treis boyleytes toy PASOK kateqesan aithma na paroysiastoyn sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias oi kyrioi Andrianos, Aggeloy kai Kladas. Ena sxolio apo thn pleyra sas;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai qema poy anaferetai sth leitoyrgia ths Boylhs. Den einai qema poy sxetizetai me th leitoyrgia toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh to qema Zaxopoyloy den einai bebaia to monadiko zhthma poy apasxolei ton ellhniko lao, yparxoyn alla zhthmata epishs sobara, opws to qema ths oikonomias, erwtw: H synexhs ptwsh toy Xrhmatisthrioy, h opoia bebaia exei sxesh kai me thn oikonomia, thn oikonomikh poreia ths Elladas, anhsyxei thn ellhnikh kybernhsh kai ti skeftetai;

ANTWNAROS: Sas einai gnwsto oti apo ayto to bhma, oydepote kata th diarkeia twn teleytaiwn tessarwn peripoy etwn, o ekproswpos ths kybernhshs exei sxoliasei h exei anaferqei stis diakymanseis twn timwn toy Xrhmatisthrioy Aqhnwn. Kai den qa to kanw bebaiws oyte kai shmera.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete kapoia enhmerwsh gia thn aimathrh symplokh, xqes to brady, sthn perioxh ths Loytsas. An dhladh htan symplokh metajy opadwn h an htan kapoia allh dienejh metajy twn dyo proswpwn;

ANTWNAROS: Kaqe apwleia anqrwpinhs zwhs einai ena idiaitera dysaresto, qlibero gegonos gia to opoio mono th lyph toy mporei na ekfrasei kapoios. Qa hqela na prosqesw oti apo thn enhmerwsh poy exw mexri stigmhs, h ereyna ths ypoqeshs ayths brisketai se ejelijh. Den exoyn sygkentrwqei, profanws, ola ta stoixeia ta opoia qa rijoyn fws se ayth thn egklhmatikh, thn paranomh energeia. Otan oloklhrwqei h ereyna, eimai bebaios oti qa exete ta stoixeia ayta apo tis diwktikes Arxes kai apo tis dikastikes Arxes, oi opoies bebaiws qa ereynhsoyn thn ypoqesh. Qa hqela, aplws, na mh biazomaste na katalhgoyme se symperasmata oson afora ta kinhtra ths egklhmatikhs ayths energeias. As afhsoyme tis diwktikes Arxes na diapistwsoyn ti akribws synebh. Qa hqela na ypenqymisw, wstoso, akribws epeidh speydoyn orismenoi na ths apodwsoyn th morfh aqlhtikhs bias, oti prokeitai gia ena symban poy egine poly makra apo toys aqlhtikoys xwroys.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh, xqes, o k. Roysopoylos, otan rwthqhke gia poio logo parelhfqh to DVD apo ton komisth dhmosiografo, ejhghse toys logoys gia toys opoioys yparxei syxnh epikoinwnia metajy dhmosiografoy kai ejoysia, qa rwthsw kai egw: Xqes, h kybernhsh den anarwthqhke h telos pantwn den ekdhlwse thn proqesh na enhmerwqei apo ton idio to dhmosiografo gia to onoma toy boyleyth, o opoios feretai na einai o mesolabhths;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyn apanthqei ola ayta. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, toylaxiston ena sxolio, giati xqes o k. Triantafyllopoylos, se dhlwseis toy ejw nomizw apo to grafeio toy anakrith, eipe oti einai sigoyros oti o Prwqypoyrgos jerei poios einai kai an toy dwsei to prasino fws qa klhqei, qa paei na kataqesei o idios o boyleyths ston eisaggelea.

ANTWNAROS: Menw sth dhlwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy oti mia kataggelia, otan ginetai, prepei opoios thn kanei na thn kanei me plhrh stoixeia.

PERDIKARHS: Exete pei kat` epanalhch kai eseis kai o k. Roysopoylos oti h kybernhsh sebetai tis koinoboyleytikes diadikasies kai den exw logo na to amfisbhthsw. Gia osa, omws, diadramatisthkan xqes sthn Epitroph Morfwtikwn Ypoqesewn ths Boylhs, yparxoyn kataggelies apo thn antipoliteysh gia th symperifora ths kybernhshs kai gia prospaqeies sygkalychs ths ypoqeshs Zaxopoyloy. Ti exete na apanthsete se ayto;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh krinetai apo toys Ellhnes polites, apo tis prajeis ths, apo th symperifora ths kai oi Ellhnes polites gnwrizoyn para poly kala ti akribws ekane h shmerinh kybernhsh, efoson anafereste sto sygkekrimeno qema. Me poia proshlwsh stoys nomoys kai tis diadikasies enhrghse kai poso sebetai, me apolyth synepeia, toys qesmoys.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas ejhghsete poy ofeiletai ayth h strofh poy exei kanei to prwqypoyrgiko grafeio poy, enw sthn arxh den katonomaze ton komisth toy DVD kai epikaloyntan to dhmosiografiko aporrhto, twra oxi apla ton katonomazei, alla ton ``denei'' kai me stoixeia;

ANTWNAROS: Kanate thn idia peripoy erwthsh, xqes, ston k. Roysopoylo. Phrate apanthsh sthn opoia kai sas parapempw.

KAKALHS: Jerw poia lete. Den ekana ayth thn erwthsh. Lew, an exete eseis apanthsh.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei h apanthsh poy sas edwse o k. Roysopoylos.

TSIOYFOS: Anejarthta an o k. Triantafyllopoylos qa ekteinei, qa oloklhrwsei, opws lete eseis, tis kataggelies tis opoies exei kanei, h kybernhsh h to komma, h Nea Dhmokratia, den qa kanei th dikh ths ereyna, prokeimenoy na diapistwsei kai ekeinh an eystaqoyn h oxi ayta ta opoia isxyrizetai o dhmosiografos;

ANTWNAROS: Exei ejantlhqei to qema.

TSIOYFOS: Nomizw oti den exei erwthqei an qa to cajei h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme apanthsei.

KAKALHS: Eipate na afhsoyme tis diwktikes Arxes na diereynhsoyn thn egklhmatikh energeia poy egine to prwi. Tis eixame afhsei kai perysi, alla akoma na maqoyme ti eixe ginei perysi me analogo kroysma sthn perioxh, den qymamai, sto Korwpi, an den kanw laqos. Dhladh, o rolos ths kybernhshs poios einai; Na parakoloyqei apla kai na katametra ta qymata kai na ekfrazei th lyph ths kai oxi na pairnei metra gia na antimetwpisei ayth thn katastash;

ANTWNAROS: Katalhgete se symperasmata, oson afora ta kinhtra ths sygkekrimenhs energeias, h opoia einai apolytws katadikastea, enw akomh den exei oloklhrwqei h ereyna. Egw qa apefeyga na to kanw, an hmoyn sth qesh sas. Kai en pash periptwsei, apo th dikh moy qesh den prokeitai na kanw kati tetoio.

KAKALHS: Ma, exoyme kai to prohgoymeno gia tis diwktikes Arxes.

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete na dieykrinisw: Den katalhgw me thn katanohth apo mena, alla oxi apolytws sebasth apo toys kanones poy leitoyrgei h koinwnia, dhmosiografikh taxythta se tetoia symperasmata.

PALAIOLOGOS: Pame se ena allo qema, mias kai exoyn ejantlhqei opws lete eseis ola ta qemata sxetika me thn ypoqesh Zaxopoyloy kai ton boyleyth. Na rwthsw poioi logoi epebalan thn agora enos aeroskafoys, qa legame ogkwdoys, qhriwdoys, pws na to pw, akriboy, an den kanw laqos symfwna me to dhmosieyma shmerinhs efhmeridas --ths Ayrianhs sygkekrimena-- kostizei gyrw sta 100.000.000 eyrw kai malista xwris diagwnismo.

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei gi` ayto to qema sto parelqon dyo h treis fores. Eyxaristws, na enhmerwqw apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio kai ayrio qa exete thn apanthsh moy.

ROYMELIWTHS: Mia teleytaia erwthsh gia ton dhmosiografo qelw na sas kanw. Den diasyretai enas sygkekrimenos anqrwpos, omws, otan polla pleon dhmosieymata anaferoyn jekaqara to onoma toy kai kapoioi lene oti einai enas moxlos pieshs ths kybernhshs gia na aytoapokalyfqei;

ANTWNAROS: Apo o,ti antilambanomai, epikrinete thn kybernhsh dioti --opws eipate eseis xrhsimopoiwntas ena sygkekrimeno rhma, den einai dikh moy frash ayth-- ``diasyretai apo ta Mesa'' kapoios dhmosiografos. E, den ftaiei h kybernhsh gi` ayto. Den mporeite na apodidete eyqynh sthn kybernhsh gi` ayto poy lete oti symbainei sta Mesa.

NASOPOYLOS: Mporei k. Ekproswpe na pei ``den einai aytos''. Gia ena proswpo milame.

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei para polles fores gia to qema toy periexomenoy ths anakrishs.

TERZHS: Epeidh yparxei antistoixh probolh h fwtografia toy onomatos toy boyleyth, o opoios kata thn idia logikh diasyretai, epishs, apo ta Mesa h kybernhsh den exei endiaferqei na maqei poios einai aytos o boyleyths;

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den toy apeyqynate, dhladh, systaseis;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh o k. Palaiologos ekane anafora se aeroplana, hqela na sas rwthsw, yparxoyn kapoies ejelijeis sto qema ths Olympiakhs; To jexasame twra logw ths epikairothtas. Oi teleytaies plhrofories poy yparxoyn, kanoyn logo gia perikoph twn yperatlantikwn dromologiwn. Isxyei kati tetoio;

ANTWNAROS: An qymamai kala, sto telos ths perasmenhs ebdomadas, se mia dhmosia topoqethsh toy anaferqhke sto qema ths Olympiakhs o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Xatzhdakhs. Den exw ayth th stigmh proxeirh thn topoqethsh toy Ypoyrgoy. Den nomizw oti yparxei kamia allagh se sxesh me ayta poy sas exoyme pei tis teleytaies ebdomades, toys teleytaioys dyo mhnes.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den jerw pws qa thn parete thn erwthsh, alla yparxei cyxiko rhgma stis sxeseis metajy twn stelexwn toy Megaroy Majimoy;

ANTWNAROS: Eilikrina den antilambanomai th fraseologia sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: H erwthsh moy einai safhs. To Megaro Majimoy apoteleitai apo kapoia proswpa. Metajy twn proswpwn aytwn yparxei cyxiko rhgma;

ANTWNAROS: H synergasia olwn ejakoloyqei na einai agasth.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kai exoyn apantes thn empistosynh toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ANTWNAROS: H synergasia olwn oswn ergazontai ekei ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo einai agasth.

Sas eyxaristw.

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