Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-01-15

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 15 Ianoyarioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 116142343

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 15 Ianoyarioy 2008

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" Oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, h opoia asxolhqhke me qemata armodiothtas toy Ypoyrgeioy Paideias. O armodios Ypoyrgos k. Stylianidhs exei hdh kanei dhlwseis, ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy.

" Jekinaei shmera h syzhthsh sthn Olomeleia ths Boylhs gia to sxedio nomoy poy afora sthn anamorfwsh ths forologias akinhtwn kai kaysimwn. Apo to Martio toy 2004 h kybernhsh eqese ws basiko stoxo th dhmioyrgia enos pio aploy, pio dikaioy, pio apotelesmatikoy kai pio diafanoys forologikoy systhmatos. Me thn prwth fash ths forologikhs metarryqmishs, opws qymaste, meiwsame toys syntelestes gia tis epixeirhseis, dinontas wqhsh sthn anaptyjh, sth dhmioyrgia newn qesewn ergasias kai sth meiwsh ths anergias. Me th deyterh fash ths forologikhs metarryqmishs meiwnoyme stadiaka th forologia gia ta fysika proswpa, prokeimenoy oi polites na plhrwnoyn ligoteroys amesoys foroys. Me ayto to sxedio nomoy proxwroyme sthn trith fash ths forologikhs metarryqmishs, h opoia afora sthn aplopoihsh kai eksygxronismo ths forologias akinhtwn. Parallhlws, antimetwpizoyme to laqremporio sta kaysima, ws synexeia ths prospaqeias mas gia thn antimetwpish ths forodiafyghs kai toy laqremporioy. Katargoyme to foro gia tis klhronomies kai tis gonikes paroxes, poy sthn prajh oysiastika epibarynan mono ta mikra kai mesaia eisodhmata, dedomenoy oti sto parelqon eixe meiwqei drastika h forologia klhronomias gia th metabibash epixeirhsewn. Apallassoyme apo th forologia thn prwth katoikia sto baqmo poy kalyptei basikes stegastikes anagkes. Parallhla, me thn ejomoiwsh toy foroy petrelaioy kinhshs kai qermanshs antimetwpizoyme mia sobarh streblwsh sthn agora kaysimwn poy ofeiletai sthn paranomh xrhsh toy petrelaioy qermanshs, ws kinhshs.

" Doqhkan, opws gnwrizete h opws diabasate, ta Kratika Brabeia Logotexnias. Qa qelame na sygxaroyme oloys toys brabeymenoys. Exei hdh milhsei o armodios ypoyrgos k. Liaphs. Epitrecte moy, omws, na anaferqw eidikotera sto Kratiko Brabeio Poihshs 2007, to opoio aponemhqhke ston Ntino Siwth, o opoios einai apo pollwn etwn stelexos twn Genikwn Grammateiwn Epikoinwnias kai Enhmerwshs. Peran twn sygxarhthriwn poy ajizei, toy eyxomai na synexisei me to idio paqos na prosferei sthn ellhnikh logotexnia kai eidikotera sthn poihsh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

NASOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yphrje xqes mia kataggelia apo thn pleyra toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy gia mia apopeira synallaghs, sthn opoia prwtagwnistei boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias kai empleketai o epikefalhs toy SDOE k. Kladas. Ean h kybernhsh agnooyse mexri xqes to brady ayto to zhthma, to exei ereynhsei kai an nai, poy exei katalhjei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei anakoinwsh ths Yphresias Eidikwn Elegxwn. Prepei hdh na exei ekdoqei. Den exw na kanw peraiterw sxolio.

SPYRAKH: H anakoinwsh ths Yphresias Eidikwn Elegxwn den anaferetai sto qema kai egeiretai zhthma. Yparxei h oxi boyleyths toy kybernwntos kommatos, ths kybernhtikhs paratajhs, o opoios hrqe se epafh me ton k. Triantafyllopoylo, prokeimenoy na mh ginei gnwsth h ypoqesh poy ekkremei enwpion ths Yphresias Eidikwn Elegxwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prwton, genikh parathrhsh kathgorhmatikh: Den yparxei kanenos eidoys synallagh ths kybernhshs me kanenan, oxi mono se ayto to qema, alla genikotera. Deyteron: Opoios exei na kanei kapoia kataggelia, ofeilei na thn kanei oloklhrwmenh.

RABANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ti allaje apo thn prohgoymenh ebdomada se sxesh me thn kybernhtikh grammh kai apo ekei poy den apokalyptate to onoma toy binteokomisth, telika o k. Andrianos anefere xqes to onoma stis dikastikes Arxes. Yphrje kati; Telika mhpws ceydetai h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh exei labei dhmosia safh qesh gia to qema. O k. Andrianos xqes eklhqh apo ton Anakrith gia na kataqesei peraiterw stoixeia, ta opoia o Anakriths qewrei ws kairias shmasias. O k. Andrianos apanthse stis erwthseis toy Anakritoy. Kanena allo sxolio epi ths ypoqesews ayths.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh safws o k. Andrianos apanthse stis erwthseis toy Anakrith, alla katalabainete oti mesw fhmwn kai fwtografiwn, jekina mia dhmosia syzhthsh gia to proswpo toy binteokomisth. Oxi giati yparxei endiaferon gi` ayto kaqayto to proswpo, alla giati mesa apo ayto ypodeiknyetai oti yparxei enas endexomenos parallhlos ekbiasmos. Yparxei, kyrie Ekproswpe, tetoio endexomeno; Yparxoyn endeijeis apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs oti breqhke proswpo to opoio na estelne mhnymata sthn kybernhsh me stoxo ton ekbiasmo ths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelete na epanalabete to erwthma; Den to katalaba.

SPYRAKH: Mas endiaferei na mas peite poios einai o binteokomisths, dioti h eikona poy exoyme, einai oti briskotan se ejelijh enas parallhlos ekbiasmos. Kophkan skhnes, epimaxes skhnes, stis opoies yparxoyn ciqyroi, fhmes, spermologies oti yparxoyn pragmata poy qa efernan se poly dyskolh qesh thn kybernhsh. Yparxei tetoia ekdoxh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Eisaggeleas ereyna ypoqesh ekbiasmoy. H Dikaiosynh ereyna ypoqesh ekbiasmoy.

SPYRAKH: Ekbiasmoy toy k. Zaxopoyloy apo thn Tsekoy. Oxi ekbiasmoy ths kybernhshs, pros to paron.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto to opoio lete den prokyptei apo poyqena, s` emena toylaxiston. Se kaqe periptwsh, h Dikaiosynh kanei thn ereyna ths. Ekeino to opoio gnwrizete poly kala einai oti oi kataqeseis, symfwna me ton Poiniko Kwdika, einai kataqeseis oi opoies ginontai mystika. Den dikaioytai kaneis na tis dhmosiopoihsei. Emeis, pantws, ws kybernhsh ofeiloyme na sebastoyme toys qesmoys kai den mporoyme na dhmosiopoihsoyme tipote apo ta osa exoyn eipwqei sthn kataqesh.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epikoinwnhsate eseis proswpika, h kapoios apo to Megaro Majimoy, h o k. Kladas mazi sas gia na dwsei dieykriniseis, na pei th dikh toy qesh, sxetika me tis kataggelies oi opoies exoyn (den akoygetai)...

ROYSOPOYLOS: To qema exei apanthqei.

RABANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prin apo ligo, anaferqhkate sto oti h kybernhsh sebetai toys qesmoys. H kybernhsh sebotan toys qesmoys thn perasmenh ebdomada h xqes poy apokalyce o k. Andrianos to onoma toy binteokomisth; Kai epanerxomai kai pali, den moy apanthsate, ti allaje sthn kybernhtikh grammh mesa se mia ebdomada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh sebetai toys qesmoys diaxronika. Kai ayto to apodeiknyei sthn prajh. H prwth kataqesh toy k. Andrianoy exei dhmosiopoihqei. Qa sas parakalesw na th diabasete, poly prosektika.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh epimenei sthn arxikh ths qesh oti o Dieyqynths toy Grafeioy Typoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, k. Andrianos, epraje aytoboylws sthn prwth fash ayths ths istorias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia poio logo krinete skopimo na epanalabw thn apanthsh moy; Isxyoyn oles oi apanthseis poy exw dwsei, mexri twra.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Giati allazei shmera olo to skhniko.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyoyn oles oi apanthseis.

SARANTAKOS: O k. Kladas sas exei enhmerwsei gia thn ypoqesh ayth poy bghke xqes sto fws ths dhmosiothtas me ton k. Triantafyllopoylo, me dedomeno oti h ypoqesh aforoyse dhmosiografo kai ekdoth efhmeridas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, h ypoqesh ayth afora qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Oxi qemata Typoy...

SARANTAKOS: To rwtw aplws epeidh...

ROYSOPOYLOS: ... afora qemata epixeirhsewn, h afora qemata oikonomika. En pash periptwsei yparxei mia anakoinwsh shmera ths YPEE, h opoia anaferetai sto qema.

SARANTAKOS: To rwtw aplws epeidh h epixeirhsh h to proswpo einai ekdotes, efhmerides...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den shmainei tipote ayto. An, o mh genoito, symbei ena troxaio se ena dhmosiografo, den qa enhmerwqw egw gia na metexw sth diadikasia ths ereynas toy troxaioy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh exw thn anakoinwsh toy k. Klada, ths Yphresias Eidikwn Elegxwn, eipate prohgoymenws oti opoios kanei kataggelia qa prepei na thn kanei oloklhrwmenh. Na antistrecw to erwthma. An kapoios qelei na diaceysei kati, den prepei na to diaceysei apolyta kai kaqeta; Kai epeidh blepw oti den to diaceydei o k. Kladas, dhladh den anaferei kati...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Katalhgei sthn anakoinwsh toy me mia frash thn opoia nomizw oti prepei na diabasete prosektika.

PALAIOLOGOS: Poly prosektika. Oti den sxoliazei anafores gia to proswpo toy, otan aytes symplekontai me diejagomenh ereyna apo thn Yphresia, den diaceydei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Malista. Otan aytes symplekontai me diejagomenh ereyna apo thn Yphresia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, den th diaceydei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti shmainei ayto;

PALAIOLOGOS: Tis afhnei na diereynhsei h (den akoygetai)...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti shmainei ayto; Oti yparxei mia ereyna se ejelijh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Bebaiws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ara, loipon, exei epilejei h Yphresia Eidikwn Elegxwn, otan yparxei mia ereyna se ejelijh, na mh sxoliazei dhmosiws kanenos eidoys anafora sthn ereyna ayth. Se o,ti afora ta osa akoysthkan kai nwritera se alles erwthseis -kai ayto poy ypainissetai h dikh sas erwthsh- an diabasete ta prohgoymena shmeia ths anakoinwshs, qa parathrhsete mia seira apo hmeromhnies.

PALAIOLOGOS: Bebaiws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Empeiroi anqrwpoi eiste, kante toys syneirmoys sas kai diapistwste. Bgalte ta symperasmata sas.

KAKALHS: O ellhnikos laos den exei dikaiwma na enhmerwqei gia to onoma toy komisth toy DVD; H kybernhsh den exei ypoxrewsh politika na kaqarisei thn ypoqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Politika h kybernhsh exei topoqethqei gia thn ypoqesh ayth kai exei topoqethqei polles fores, dhmosiws...

KAKALHS: Me bash ta nea dedomena.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me apanthseis poy edwsa egw se ayth thn aiqoysa kai alloi armodioi ypoyrgoi. Ekeino to opoio qa sas epanalabw kai pali, einai oti ofeilei kapoios na sebetai toys qesmoys.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, ep` aytoy. H topoqethsh ths kybernhshs akomh einai oti o k. Zaxopoylos exei (den akoygetai) gia logoys ygeias. Ayth einai h arxikh topoqethsh ths kybernhshs, h opoia den exei allajei. Me bash ayto, ola deixnoyn oti den isxyei, den eystaqei. Giati na sas pistecei o ellhnikos laos, an den eipate tote thn alhqeia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw akoysei epi, sxedon, ena mhna ta myria osa. Antilambaneste oti den mporw na sxoliazw to kaqeti poy akoygetai. Sas eipa mia fora, edw sthn aiqoysa, oti akoysa apo kapoion thleoptiko staqmo gia yperogka posa kai kakh diaxeirish. Den blepw kati epi ths oysias. Dhladh, kaqeti poy akoygetai mesa sthn hmera, eite apo plhroforia h dhqen plhroforia den mporw egw na ta sxoliazw. Egw den bazw skopimothta se kanenan dhmosiografo. Logiko einai na kanei th doyleia toy, na akoyei kapoia pragmata kai na ta metaferei. Endexomenws, polles fores, xwris na ta diastayrwsei, logw toy xronoy, toy antagwnismoy kai ths pieshs poy yparxei sto epaggelma. Den mporw na sxoliazw to kaqeti poy akoygetai.

KYRITSHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Kladas, eis baros toy opoioy yparxei mia epwnymh kataggelia apanta ap` oti katalabainw egw sthn anakoinwsh toy, th diabasa, oti ``to qema ayto elegxetai apo thn yphresia ths opoias proistamai''. Den ginetai omws taytoxrona na eisai elegxwn kai elegxomenos. Thn yphresia toy k. Klada, poios thn elegxei; Den prepei kapoios ektos ths yphresias na koitajei ayto to qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H anakoinwsh anaferetai se ena qema elegxoy kapoioy dhmosiografoy gia xrhmata ta opoia katateqhsan se ena logariasmo. Etsi den einai;

KYRITSHS: Nai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai perigrafei th diadikasia ayth me tis hmeromhnies tis opoies anaferei.

KYRITSHS: Bebaiws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den katalabainw, giati mplekoyme to ena qema me to allo; Akoysthke mia kataggelia. Perimenw na thn akoysw...

KYRITSHS: Ma, me th dhlwsh toy ta mplekei ta dyo qemata o idios. Den bghke na pei ``den eida egw pote ton Triantafyllopoylo, ti einai ayta poy lete''; Leei oti ``h yphresia moy to elegxei. H yphresia, ths opoias proistamai egw, elegxei an eimai brwmikos''. Den einai sobara pragmata ayta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai pali, epitrecte moy: Egw den kanw xarakthrismoys gia tis erwthseis sas, an einai sobares. Einai sobares. Sas exw dwsei mia apanthsh, h opoia kai isxyei.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na rwthsw ean qelei h kybernhsh na mas pei ean o k. Andrianos sthn kataqesh toy, profanws epixeirwntas na bohqhsei th Dikaiosynh se ayth th fash, ektos apo to proswpo sto opoio paredwse to epimaxo binteo, milhse kai gia tis thlefwnikes syndialejeis poy eixe, dioti shmera yparxoyn dhmosieymata kai xqes yphrxan plhrofories oti o k. Andrianos den milhse gia ena, alla gia perissotera toy enos proswpa ta opoia emplekontai se ayth thn ypoqesh ths paradoshs toy DVD.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora thn kybernhtikh pleyra, den doqhke tipote perissotero xqes, apo th dhlwsh poy ekane o k. Andrianos bgainontas apo th synanthsh poy eixe me ton anakrith kai apo kybernhtikes phges -osoi milhsan mazi moy to gnwrizoyn- poy elegan oti o k. Andrianos apanthse stis erwthseis poy toy eqese o anakriths. Tipote perissotero. Kata synepeia, mhn apeyqynete ena erwthma, gia to opoio -an yparxei ontws h plhroforia poy lete- den eyqynetai sigoyra h kybernhsh.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, rwthqhkate xqes gia tis apoceis poy ejefrase o boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias Petros Tatoylhs kai eipate, oson afora ston eklogiko nomo kai tis metarryqmiseis, oti oi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias einai eleyqeroi na ekfrazoyn tis apoceis toys, arkei aytes na einai emperistatwmenes. Qewreite oti oi apoceis toy k. Tatoylh einai emperistatwmenes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokeitai na kanw krish apocewn boyleyth, opws den kanw krish apocewn ypoyrgwn.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, giati efoson anagnwrizei h kybernhsh oti h protash toy PASOK se o,ti afora ton eklogiko nomo einai se swsth bash, den th bazei katw na th syzhthsei kai qetei proypoqeseis, opws einai h syntagmatikh anaqewrhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H protash toy PASOK -kai kaqe protash toy PASOK poy exei na kanei me ton eklogiko nomo- exei sxoliastei pleistakis kai malista apo ton armodio ypoyrgo kai apo emena. Ekeino to opoio einai safes, einai oti h kybernhsh ekane tis allages tis opoies eixe desmeyqei na kanei ston eklogiko nomo. Tis anefere rhta o Prwqypoyrgos sth syzhthsh poy kaname stis programmatikes dhlwseis. To PASOK apo th dikh toy pleyra exei th dikh toy apoch. H Boylh qa apofasisei.

NASOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, diabebaiwnei h kybernhsh oti paredwse to epimaxo DVD sthn Eisaggelia, opws akribws to parelabe;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apolytws.

KAKALHS: Ayto poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos xqes to brady sthn omilia toy, htan h protash toy PASOK na mpei sth diadikasia anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos kai sth synexeia na syzhthqei to qema toy eklogikoy nomoy me bash to germaniko montelo. Ara, dhladh, h kybernhsh syzhta kai to germaniko montelo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To exoyme pei kai alles fores kai to exoyme pei kai se ayth thn aiqoysa.

KYRITSHS: Mias poy ginetai olos aytos o dialogos gia th diafaneia kai th diafqora, qelw na sas diabasw apo ena xqesino dhmosieyma ths ``Eleyqerotypias''. Einai mia anakoinwsh ths mh kybernhtikhs organwshs ths Ekklhsias ths Ellados, ths ``Allhleggyhs'', apo thn opoia zhtoyntai na epistrecei 5,6 ekat. eyrw gia th gnwsth ypoqesh me ta sapia kotopoyla. Leei, loipon, h ``Allhleggyh'' oti: ``Ajizei na epishmanoyme oti h ypoyrgos k. Ntora Mpakogiannh, se prosfath synanthsh ths me ton Makariwtato Arxiepiskopo Xristodoylo, anagnwrizontas tis agaqes proqeseis ths ``Allhleggyhs'' diabebaiwse ton idio proswpikws oti to peri oy o logos qema qa dieyqethqei apo ekeinh kata tropo dikaio kai eynoiko gia thn etaireia mas''. Hqela na rwthsw, ean qewreite oti einai armodiothta ths ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn na yposxetai se mia mh kybernhtikh organwsh oti qa dieyqethsei eynoika gia ta symferonta ths etaireias mia ypoqesh 5,6 ekat. eyrw  kai h ypoqesh h allh poy koybentiazoyme tosa peripoy lefta einai- kai an aytes oi logikes ejyphretoyn thn ypoqesh diafaneias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den mporw na dexqw ws dedomenh ayth thn apoch thn opoia ekfrasate, profanws diabazontas -opws eipate- kapoia anakoinwsh...

KYRITSHS: Leei cemata h Ekklhsia; To apagoreyei h qrhskeia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eimai ekproswpos ths kybernhshs kai pisteyw taytoxronws. Den mporw, loipon, na ekfrasw apoch gia ta osa leei h sygkekrimenh anakoinwsh thn opoia moy diabasate. H plhroforia thn opoia gnwrizete einai oti to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn exei kinhsei ayth th diadikasia. Kata synepeia, erxetai se mia antifash ayto to opoio leei h anakoinwsh.

SARANTAKOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti diabasate se kapoies efhmerides kai se merida toy Typoy, hlektronikoy h entypoy en pash periptwsei, oti yphrjan kai qemata oikonomikwn atasqaliwn sto ypoyrgeio Politismoy, alla eseis den exete dei kati mexri twra. Ayto to lete giati exei proyparjei elegxos apo th stigmh poy apopeiraqhke na aytoktonhsei o k. Zaxopoylos mexri shmera h to lete mh blepontas kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei sto erwthma ayto apo thn prwth kai deyterh hmera. Eipa prohgoymenws oti akoyw kaqhmerinws diafores plhrofories, tis opoies den dynamai na sxoliasw oles.

SARANTAKOS: Gia to oikonomiko, den moy apanthsate. Gia thn istoria...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to oikonomiko sas apanthsa thn prohgoymenh Deytera kai Trith, an diabasete ta briefings. Den allazei h apanthsh moy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Me dedomeno oti o k. Andrianos kateqese xqes h mallon apokalyce, katonomase ton dhmosiografo poy toy edwse to DVD, den krinei skopimo h kybernhsh na to dhmosiopoihsei to onoma, me dedomeno oti exei dhmioyrghqei, qa legame, mia spermologia gia to poia einai ta proswpa, an einai aytos, den einai ekeinos kai ayto kat` antanaklash exei prokalesei -qa legame- kai ena polemo metajy dhmosiografwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O poinikos kwdikas, sto arqro 241, me safhneia anaferei oti h anakrish ginetai pantote xwris dhmosiothta. Kaqierwnetai, dhladh, h mystikothta ths anakrishs. 'H sebomaste toys qesmoys se ayto ton topo h den toys sebomaste.

PALAIOLOGOS: Allo rwthsa, an moy epitrepete. Egw sas rwthsa allo. An...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, pws; To idio pragma me rwthsate. Moy lete oti qa prepei o k. Andrianos na pei to onoma toy dhmosiografoy, prokeimenoy na mhn yparxei syzhthsh sth dhmosiothta. Sas lew, loipon, oti symfwna me ton poiniko kwdika -einai nomos toy kratoys, isxyoyn dhladh ola ayta ta opoia leei- prepei na ta throyme oloi. Ti na sas pw perissotero; Einai qesmika ta plaisia sta opoia prepei na kineitai kapoios. Oloi oi polites, oxi mono enas poliths o opoios exei dhmosio ajiwma.

PALAIOLOGOS: Na thn kataqesw toylaxiston dhmosiografika thn erwthsh kai oxi toso se epipedo (den akoygetai); Egw qelw na to qesw eyqews: H kybernhsh den enoxleitai apo to gegonos oti dhmosiografoi fwtografizoyn allhloys ws katoxoys-promhqeytes toy epimaxoy DVD;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eyqynetai h kybernhsh gi` ayto;

PALAIOLOGOS: Den jerw. Egw rwtaw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw sas anterwtw, loipon.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den empleketai...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite. Den mporei na eyqynomai egw h h kybernhsh gia to ti legetai opoydhpote sta MME. Sebomai tis plhrofories, sebomai th dhmosiografikh logikh toy kaqenos kai olh th dhmosiografikh poreia toy kaqenos, th doyleia toy. Den mporw na sas apanthsw sto erwthma poy moy qetete. Den afora thn kybernhsh to erwthma poy moy qetete.

PALAIOLOGOS: Alla epeidh empleketai anqrwpos apo thn kybernhsh, apo to prwqypoyrgiko periballon opws leme, gi` ayto kai lew oti ...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Dhladh exoyme to dedomeno oti o dieyqynths toy grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, kaloymenos apo ton anakrith na apanthsei se kapoia kairias shmasias erwthmata toy anakrith, apanta. Threi toys qesmoys kai toys nomoys. Den leei tipota dhmosiws, giati ayto orizei o poinikos kwdikas: Oti den mporei na pei kati dhmosiws. Kai en synexeia exoyme ena erwthma ``giati den leei''. Sas apanthsa.

KAKALHS: Me thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Agkyra, ti ginetai; Giati ypotiqetai, me bash thn anepishmh hmeromhnia, oti einai se mia ebdomada na ginei...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati neotero akoma. Otan exw, qa sas enhmerwsw.

KYRITSHS: Ajiologwntas thn ejelijh ths ypoqeshs ek twn ysterwn, ektimate oti kalws ekane o k. Andrianos kai ypoxwrhse, en pash periptwsei, apo to qema toy dhmosiografikoy aporrhtoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw na pw tipote perissotero apo ayta ta opoia eipa sthn arxh ths koybentas mas. Epeidh ayto dynatai na parejhghqei, oti arnoymai na parw qesh, kratw apostaseis k.t.l., sas qymizw oti exw apanthsei apo thn perasmenh ebdomada se antistoixo erwthma, legontas oti sebomai opoiadhpote apofash. Edw exoyme na kanoyme me ena zhthma to opoio anaferetai -kai eipa se synadelfo sas prohgoymenws- sthn prwth kataqesh toy k. Andrianoy. Kai dhmosieyqhke ayth h kataqesh sthn efhmerida opoy ergazetai o k. Sarantakos, an qymamai kala. Anaferei oti einai sth diaqesh ths Dikaiosynhs gia opoiodhpote qema qewrhsei h Dikaiosynh ws kairias shmasias gia thn peraiterw ereyna.

ROYMELIWTHS: Yparxoyn kapoia prwtoselida shmera se toyrkikes efhmerides, nomizw metajy aytwn kai (den akoygetai) oti stis 25 Ianoyarioy, mia hmeromhnia poy qa exei fygei o Prwqypoyrgos apo thn Agkyra, an oi plhrofories aytes epibebaiwqoyn, qa pragmatopoihsei h Toyrkia ereynes gia petrelaio sto Aigaio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw leptomereies ayths ths ypoqeshs. Qa moy epitrecete na kanw mia genikh topoqethsh: Efoson tetoies drasthriothtes pragmatopoioyntai entos toyrkikwn xwrikwn ydatwn, den yparxei logos sxoliasmoy apo merias moy.

TSIOYFOS: O k. Andrianos, xqes, rwthqhke apo ton anakrith na epibebaiwsei to onoma poy, piqanon, eixe perielqei sth gnwsh toy anakrith apo allh phgh h to anefere o idios;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sebomai oti ofeilete na kanete th doyleia sas, alla fantazomai h apanthsh thn opoia perimenete den qa diaferei apo ayta poy eipa prohgoymenws.

TSIOYFOS: Den rwthsa onoma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan sas lew oti ofeilei na threi th mystikothta ths diadikasias kapoios...

TSIOYFOS: Ayto einai mystiko; An epibebaiwse to onoma h to eipe;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eseis ti lete; Kata th gnwmh sas ti einai;

TSIOYFOS: Den jerw, rwtaw. An to hjera, den qa sas rwtaga.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw sas lew oti einai.

PALAIOLOGOS: Na qewrhsete afelh, prokatabolika thn erwthsh moy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: E, oxi bebaia!

PALAIOLOGOS: Esas o k. Andrianos sas apokalyce to onoma toy promhqeyth toy DVD;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean sas pw ``oxi'', den qa me pistecete. Ean sas pw ``nai'', qa me rwthsete na sas pw poio einai to onoma. Kata synepeia, qa moy epitrecete...

PALAIOLOGOS: Sas eipa oti kanw mia afelh erwthsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: ...na mhn apanthsw sthn erwthsh sas, thn opoia den qewrw kaqoloy afelh.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Na rwthsw kati; To idio afeles kai to diko moy to erwthma, sthn idia bash me toy synadelfoy. Pws einai dynaton olh ayth h diaxeirish enos terastioy, enos qematos, telos pantwn, poy apasxolei thn epikairothta epi ena mhna konta, na peftei sthn plath enos koryfaioy stelexoys ek twn synergatwn, estw, toy prwqypoyrgikoy grafeioy kai apo o,ti katalaba egw -gi` ayto sas eipa oti mporei na einai kai afeles to erwthma- na mhn exei gnwsh kaneis allos toy pws diaxeirizetai thn ypoqesh; Dhladh, paei aytoboylws ston anakrith, den leei tipota, mexri kapoio shmeio den jeroyme tipota, den jerete tipota... Exw mperdeytei. Syggnwmh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Janadiabaste to keimeno kai nomizw oti qa bgalete kapoies apanthseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

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