Greek Government Press Briefing, 07-03-20

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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 20 Martioy 2007

Ariqmos Deltioy: 63430798

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 20 Martioy 2007

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa synanthqei ayrio, Tetarth 21 Martioy, stis 12.00, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton prwhn Proedro ths Neas Dhmokratias, ton boyleyth k. Miltiadh Ebert.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exei na kanei kapoio sxolio h kybernhsh sxetika me tis plhrofories apo thn pleyra twn xrhmatistwn, tis dhlwseis poy eginan xqes kai poy kanoyn logo gia alla eji omologa ``gkriza'', opws apokaloyntai sthn agora;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio. Qa hqela na epishmanw, gia mia akomh fora, me apolyth safhneia oti h shmerinh kybernhsh einai ekeinh h opoia, me dikh ths prwtoboylia, me stoxo thn apolyth diafaneia qwrakise thn Epitroph Kefalaiagoras me ola ekeina ta opla poy xreiazetai, wste na epitelesei me apotelesmatikothta to ergo ths. Kai ayto egine akribws kai sto qema toy sygkekrimenoy omologoy, xarh sthn pronoia thn opoia eixe labei h shmerinh kybernhsh.

KAKALHS: Stis shmerines apofaseis ths syskechs poy egine perilambanetai kai h apagoreysh gia ependyseis se paragwga omologwn apo ta asfalistika Tameia .Giati den epekteinetai ayto kai stis ependyseis se metoxes; Den einai to idio...

ANTWNAROS: Exei kanei anakoinwseis o k. Alogoskoyfhs stis opoies kai parapempw. Den exw na prosqesw kati gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ean thn Pempth, sthn pro hmerhsias diatajews syzhthsh, o Proedros toy PASOK epanaferei to aithma toy gia prowres ekloges, endexetai o Prwqypoyrgos na allajei th gnwsth toy qesh;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh ths kybernhshs gia to qema ayto einai safhs kai exei ekfrastei me apolyth safhneia apo ton Prwqypoyrgo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Meta th stash ths Akadhmias Aqhnwn, h opoia aporriptei ayto to biblio ths ST' Dhmotikoy san anistorhto kai aytoys poy to egracan epishs anistorhtoys, h kybernhsh skeftetai na to aposyrei ayto to biblio;

ANTWNAROS: Exw mprosta moy ena deltio Typoy ths Akadhmias Aqhnwn poy leei oti ``h Akadhmia Aqhnwn se oydemia anakoinwsh proebh sxetika me to biblio ths Istorias ths ST' Dhmotikoy''. Parapempw, loipon, stis dhlwseis tis opoies exei kanei h armodia Ypoyrgos k. Giannakoy kai sth Boylh, alla kai stis dhlwseis tis opoies exei kanei se ayto to xwro edw o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos k. Roysopoylos. Oi qeseis aytes einai safeis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H Akadhmia Aqhnwn den ekane anakoinwsh, alla asxolhqhke me to biblio kai exei bgalei ena porisma. Den eipa egw oti ekane anakoinwsh.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn ola osa exei pei h kybernhsh gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes sth syzhthsh poy eixame, eipate oti h kybernhsh den epixeirei kanenos eidoys symchfismo sthn ypoqesh twn omologwn. Shmera, akoysa oti h kybernhsh diatassei diaxeiristiko elegxo se baqos dekaetias gia ta asfalistika Tameia kai metajy allwn qa ereynhsei kai ean ta Tameia sta prohgoymena xronia ependysan apoqematika toys panw, peran toy epitrepomenoy orioy, poy ean qymamai kala einai 23%. Ayto emena moy akoygetai ws klasikos symchfismos me thn ennoia oti aytoy toy eidoys h ereyna sto mono poy mporei na katalhjei einai sto ti egine thn periodo ths anqhshs toy Xrhmatisthrioy, thn periodo toy 2000. Ayto den exei kamia sxesh me thn ypoqesh ayth. Ara, epimenete oti den epixeireite symchfismo;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws kai epimenw. Ekeino to opoio exei shmasia einai na fanei ean kata th diaxeirish twn apoqematikwn twn Tameiwn exoyn ginei prajeis oi opoies den einai synnomes h den ejyphretoyn ta symferonta twn Tameiwn. Ypenqymizw gia mia akomh fora oti h shmerinh kybernhsh, o shmerinos Ypoyrgos k. Tsitoyridhs einai ekeinos poy me dikh toy prwtoboylia, meta apo mia megalh proergasia, frontise wste se istoselida toy Ypoyrgeioy toy opoioy proistatai, na einai katagegrammenh olh h akinhth perioysia twn Tameiwn, kaqws kai oi prajeis, oi metaboles, oi opoies ginontai panw se ayth thn akinhth perioysia. Poly prosexws, de, mesa ston Aprilio, qa einai etoimh kai h istoselida opoy qa einai katagegrammenh olh h kinhth perioysia twn Tameiwn kai oi prajeis poy exoyn sxesh me ayth. Ayth einai mia diadikasia h opoia ejasfalizei me ton kalytero dynato tropo th diafaneia kata th diaxeirish twn apoqematikwn kai ths perioysias twn Tameiwn. Taytoxrona, sta plaisia ths prwtoboylias thn opoia exei analabei h shmerinh kybernhsh, kaq` olo to diasthma ths trietoys qhteias ths mexri twra, wste na ejasfalistei h diafaneia sth diaxeirish twn Tameiwn, apofasisthkan hdh orismena metra kai qa melethqei to qesmiko plaisio entos toy opoioy qa ginetai sto mellon h diaxeirish twn apoqematikwn twn Tameiwn.

XIWTHS: Ayto poy egw rwtw einai, ti nohma exei mia ereyna se baqos dekaetias, apo th stigmh poy akomh kai ta stelexh ths antipoliteyshs tonisan xqes sth Boylh oti ean yphrjan paratypies sta Tameia se periodoys prohgoymenwn kybernhsewn, aytes exoyn kriqei apo ton ellhniko lao.

ANTWNAROS: Tipota den apallassei ta stelexh toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs gi` ayta ta opoia ekanan ekeinh thn periodo. Kai einai kalo osa apodeixqoyn na bgoyn sthn epifaneia. Den mporw na katalabw giati yparxoyn kapoioi -- kai den anaferomai se esas asfalws -- oi opoioi aisqanontai abola, aisqanontai mia allergia gia to oti qa ginei mia ereyna se baqos. Ayto nomizw oti einai kati poy oloi qa eprepe na to qeloyn.

MAYRIDHS: Giati epilegete ayto to xrono gia thn prwtoboylia na ginei ayth h se baqos ereyna kai den eixe ginei pio prin;

ANTWNAROS: Kaqe xronos einai prosforos.

GKOYTZANHS: Mhpws qelete na mas peisete oti kai eseis kai oi prohgoymenoi kanate paromoies prajeis kai paromoia diaxeirish opote as mhn kathgoroyme kanenan;

ANTWNAROS: Oi Ellhnes polites jeroyn kai krinoyn. Kai kanenas Ellhnas poliths den mporei na probei se mia tetoia sygkrish. Den mporei omws aytoi oi opoioi ekanan aytes tis apiqanes prajeis ekeinh thn periodo na ginontai shmera timhtes. Den nomimopoioyntai me kanenan apolytws tropo gi' ayto.

GKOYTZANHS: Poies einai oi apiqanes prajeis;

ANTWNAROS: Aytes poy gnwrizete asfalws kai eseis. An den tis gnwrizete, parakalw na tis plhroforhqeite.

SPYRAKH: Hqela na rwthsw kyrie Ekproswpe, giati moy apanthsate mono merikws sto prwto erwthma, an exete thn kalosynh, an h kybernhsh sto plaisio ths ereynas poy einai gnwsto oti hdh diejagei sth diadikasia diaxeirishs ths kinhths perioysias twn Tameiwn, entopizei twra meta kai tis kataggelies twn xrhmatistwn thn ereyna ths se ayta ta sygkekrimena omologa. Yparxei, estiazei se ayto to shmeio h kybernhsh h qewrei pws oi kataggelies twn xrhmatistwn ginontai sto plaisio toy antagwnismoy twn xrhmatisthriakwn etaireiwn me tis trapezes;

ANTWNAROS: Exei kanei anakoinwseis o k. Tsitoyridhs stis opoies kai menw.

KAKALHS: Poio einai to nohma ths allaghs toy qesmikoy plaisioy sto opoio proxwraei h kybernhsh apo th stigmh poy ola osa eginan mexri twra, eginan nomotypa. Parola ayta ayto den empodise na yparjei zhmia gia ta asfalistika Tameia. Mhpws telika h kybernhsh exei skopo na apagoreysei to xrhmatisthriako tzogo me ta apoqematika twn asfalistikwn Tameiwn;

ANTWNAROS: Prwton, ejakoloyqeite kai xrhsimopoieite toylaxiston stis erwthseis tis opoies apeyqynete pros to proswpo moy, oroys me toys opoioys egw den mporw na symporeytw.

KAKALHS: Poioi einai aytoi;

ANTWNAROS: Aytoys toys opoioys xrhsimopoihsate kai egw bebaiws den prokeitai na toys epanalabw.

KAKALHS: Pws qa to legate eseis to pontarisma;

ANTWNAROS: To deytero to opoio qelw na pw einai oti h kybernhsh exei mia sygkekrimenh politikh qesh. Qesh diafaneias, qesh staqerothtas sthn efarmogh ths politikhs ths sthn opoia kai qa meinei proshlwmenh. Opoios parabainei to nomo, apo opoydhpote kai ean proerxetai, qa ypostei tis synepeies. H kybernhsh, me thn enisxysh ths Epitrophs Kefalaiagoras, einai ekeinh h opoia frontise wste xrhmatisthriakes prajeis, oi opoies den htan apodektes...

KAKALHS: Htan paranomes.

ANTWNAROS: ... Den eimai egw dikasths gia na krinw.

KAKALHS: Tote giati allazete to qesmiko plaisio;

ANTWNAROS: To kleisimo mias xrhmatisthriakhs etaireias apo thn Epitroph Kefalaiagoras deixnei akribws oti h symperifora ayths ths etaireias den htan synnomh. Kai to porisma to opoio ypeblhqh katopin dikhs toy aithsews, katopin dikhs toy prwtoboylias ston Ypoyrgo Apasxolhshs k. Tsitoyridh thn Paraskeyh to brady, deixnei oti h symperifora toy dioikhtikoy symboylioy toy sygkekrimenoy Tameioy, epishs den htan synnomh. Kai epeblhqh ayto to opoio epeblhqh. Amesws estalh h ypoqesh ston Eisaggelea apo ton Ypoyrgo k. Tsitoyridh kai zhthqhkan oi paraithseis twn melwn toy dioikhtikoy symboylioy. Ayto eprepe na ginei. Aytes tis dynatothtes exei o Ypoyrgos. Ayto kanei. Kai meta apo mia tetoia diapistwsh, opws ejhghsan shmera kai o k. Alogoskoyfhs kai bebaiws o k. Tsitoyridhs, lambanontai orismenes symplhrwmatikes prwtoboylies. Poy briskete eseis to mempto;

KAKALHS: Ti qa empodisei thn epanalhch ayths ths symperiforas;

ANTWNAROS: Exw pei epaneilhmmenws oti kaneis den mporei na apokleisei se mia eynomoymenh koinwnia opws einai h ellhnikh koinwnia, th diaprajh paranomwn prajewn. Ayto de shmainei oti den prepei na yparxei ena nomiko h ena qesmiko plaisio to opoio na qetei ypo timwria, ypo apagoreysh aytes tis prajeis.

MAYRIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe pisteyete oti peiqei thn koinh gnwmh to epixeirhma oti tis eyqynes ths exei to dioikhtiko symboylio dedomenoy oti h kybernhsh h idia paradexetai oti se tetoies dyskoles kai polyplokes diadikasies opws einai aytes oi xrhmatopistwtikes, ta stelexh twn dioikhtikwn symboyliwn den exoyn tis eparkeis gnwseis gia na antapejelqoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Einai safes mesa sto qesmiko plaisio sto opoio kinoyntai oi dioikhseis twn asfalistikwn Tameiwn kai ta asfalistika Tameia, poios exei thn eyqynh kai pws lambanontai oi apofaseis.

XIWTHS: Aytos o anadromikos elegxos poy dietaje shmera h kybernhsh moy qymizei ligo th diadikasia ths apografhs. Ayto poy qelw na sas rwthsw einai prwton, an qelate na deite an yphrjan paratypies sto parelqon giati den to jekinhse h kybernhsh sthn arxh ths qhteias ths; Kai deyteron, mias kai milame gia thn apografh, qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs poy sas zhthqhke kai xqes alla den to prajate, gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Sarkozi o opoios me aformh th diadikasia ayth ths apografhs epiteqhke xqes ston k. Papadhmo.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti kaqe xronos gia th dienergeia elegxoy einai prosforos. Oso gia to qema toy k. Sarkozi, topoqethqhka xqes. Den nomizw oti amfisbhtei pleon kaneis ta terastia elleimmata, to ycos twn elleimmatwn sto opoio odhghsan oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis, oi kybernhseis toy PASOK th xwra.

XIWTHS: Ayto einai to ena zhtoymeno. To deytero zhtoymeno einai oti symfwna me tis kataggelies ths antipoliteyshs toylaxiston gia na mhn peite oti kanw egw xarakthrismoys...

ANTWNAROS: Den kanete eseis xarakthrismoys. Den isxyristhka kati tetoio.

XIWTHS: To problhma to anedeije sthn Eyrwph kai ejeqese th xwra h apografh poy diejhxqh apo thn kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias.

ANTWNAROS: Dhladh, h antipoliteysh molonoti dhmioyrghse ta elleimmata, qewrei oti ola ayta qa eprepe na koykoylwqoyn; Na mhn maqei tipota o ellhnikos laos; Kai na synexizei na pisteyei ena megalo meros toy ellhnikoy laoy oti tipota apo ola ayta den eixe ginei; Ma, thn eyqynh thn exei h shmerinh ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh. Ayth paroysiaze elleimma, to opoio htan dhqen ena ekto h ena ebdomo aytoy sto opoio pragmatika, symfwna me th Statistikh Yphresia ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, eixe odhghsei to PASOK th xwra.

GKOYTZANHS: Epeidh dyskoleyomai ligo na ta katalabw ola ayta kai mperdeyomai me ta xrhmatopistwtika, ayto poy katalabainw einai oti ena Tameio kai oi asfalismenoi toy exasan 5 ekatommyria eyrw. Gi` ayto den yparxei kamia politikh eyqynh;

ANTWNAROS: Exw topoqethqei apo xqes. Oses fores kai na ypoballete thn idia erwthsh, thn idia apanthsh qa parete. Thn eyqynh gia thn agora, gia thn topoqethsh apoqematikwn se ependyseis, thn exei basei toy qesmikoy plaisioy to dioikhtiko symboylio kaqe Tameioy. Parakalw, na melethsete ayto to qesmiko plaisio.

GKOYTZANHS: Den yparxei oyte politikh eyqynh kapoioy Ypoyrgoy giati den leitoyrghse h epitroph elegxoy twn diaqesimwn twn Tameiwn;

ANTWNAROS: Se poia epitroph akribws anafereste;

GKOYTZANHS: Epitroph elegxoy twn diaqesimwn twn Tameiwn h opoia eprepe na leitoyrgei meta to 2004 kai h opoia stamathse na leitoyrgei dioti h kybernhsh den esteile ekproswpoys ths h dioti o armodios Ypoyrgos mplokarise th diadikasia.

ANTWNAROS: Exw thn entypwsh oti o proedros ths den thn eixe sygkalesei.

KAKARNIAS: Th zhmia poy ypesth to Tameio kai mesw toy Tameioy oi asfalismenoi, poios qa thn epwmistei; Ayta ta xrhmata poy xaqhkan kai an prokycei oti xaqhkan kai apo alla Tameia.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio peran twn oswn eipa.

STAQOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh thn teleytaia ebdomada dexetai sklhrh epiqesh apo thn antipoliteysh, sygkekrimena apo to PASOK toso apo ton k. Papandreoy oso kai apo thn k. Damanakh kai thn k. Basw Papandreoy. Epiqeseis dexetai kai proswpika o Prwqypoyrgos alla kai o k. Tsitoyridhs. Poia einai h apanthsh ths kybernhshs gi` aytes tis epiqeseis;

ANTWNAROS: To PASOK prospaqei na jeperasei ta eswkommatika toy problhmata epitiqemeno xwris oysia sthn kybernhsh. Prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei ena texnhto klima entashs kai polwshs prosdokwntas, endexomenws, kapoia politika ofelh. Oi Ellhnes polites gnwrizoyn poly kala me poio aisqhma eyqynhs pros ton topo kai me proshlwsh stis arxes ths diafaneias askei ta kaqhkonta ths h shmerinh kybernhsh. Tipota den mporei na mas apoprosanatolisei apo th sygkekrimenh, th syneidhth prospaqeia na ylopoihsoyme bhma  bhma to programma mas.

KAKALHS: Den sas entypwsiazei oti to epixeirhma poy xrhsimopoihsate prohgoymenws peri aytonomias twn Tameiwn htan to idio epixeirhma poy xrhsimopoihsan kai oi prohgoymenoi kybernwntes gia na dikaiologhsoyn th lehlasia poy egine sta apoqematika twn Tameiwn;

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, prokyptei apo th dhmosiografikh ereyna, toylaxiston, oti o antiproedros ths AKROPOLIS AXEPEY o k. Apostolidhs phge se ena ypokatasthma trapezhs se dyo diadoxikes hmeres kai efyge me kati ekatommyria eyrw metrhta. Einai olh ayth h diadikasia kanonikh; Einai nomotyph; Exei problhmatistei h kybernhsh, o armodios Ypoyrgos exei dwsei entolh na diereynhqei; Giati yparxei ena qema, ti xrhma einai ayto, an syndeetai me mayro xrhma kai diafora alla.

ANTWNAROS: Moy metaferete me entexno tropo to periexomeno mias erwthshs poy kateteqh sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Epeidh ayto to qema apotelei antikeimeno erwthshs, h erwthsh qa apanthqei me th synhqh koinoboyleytikh diadikasia.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ektos apo thn erwthsh, apo oti plhroforoymaste apo tis efhmerides shmera, to zhthma ereyna kai h armodia epitroph gia ton elegxo toy ``brwmikoy'' xrhmatos.

ANTWNAROS: Otan exei kati na sas anakoinwsei h en logw Anejarthth Arxh, eimai bebaios oti qa sas to anakoinwsei.

XIWTHS: Nai, alla ayth h Arxh apo oti toylaxiston diabazoyme synergazetai me thn kybernhsh. H kybernhsh den exei gnwsh an eystaqoyn aytes oi kataggelies;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa: Otan yparxei kati pros anakoinwsh, qa sas gnwstopoihqei.

ROYMELIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Aggelopoylos, o prwhn Yfypoyrgos Apasxolhshs, thn Kyriakh apo to Agrinio ekane anakoinwseis, stis opoies yposthrije oti diapistwqhke apo ton Ioylio toy 2004 to keno ston elegxo twn apoqematikwn twn Tameiwn kai oti paredwsan ston k. Tsitoyridh to porisma Epitrophs gia to pws mporei na leitoyrghsoyn kalytera o elegxos, h diafaneia twn apoqematikwn twn Tameiwn. Parola ayta, o k. Tsitoyridhs dietaje nea ereyna, na erqei neo porisma oytws wste na mporesoyn na doyn ti metra qa paroyn. Giati perasan tria xronia;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti o k. Tsitoyridhs exei kanei sygkekrimena bhmata. Epesthsa thn prosoxh olwn sas sthn istoselida h opoia leitoyrgei kai sth nea istoselida h opoia qa leitoyrghsei lian prosexws kai qa perilambanei kai thn kinhth perioysia twn Tameiwn. H kybernhsh me staqera bhmata efarmozei, se ayton ton tomea, thn politikh ths.

SPYRAKH: Qa hqela, kyrie Ekproswpe, na sas rwthsw gia thn oysia twn dhlwsewn toy k. Sarkozi. Dhladh, peran toy stoixeioy poy qijate kai xqes, toy stoixeioy poy anefere oti h Ellada eishlqe sthn ONE me ena elleimma ths tajews toy 6%, h allh pleyra twn dhlwsewn toy k. Sarkozi perielambane kai mia epiqesh se baros toy Antiproedroy ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas toy k. Papadhmoy sth bash oti oi mesaies xwres den mporoyn na symmetexoyn sth dioikhsh ths Trapezas. Qelw loipon na rwthsw ean symmerizeste ayth thn apoch, an dhladh qewreite oti o k. Papadhmas symmeteixe se osa eseis kathgoreite thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh oti epixeirhse me stoxo na balei thn Ellada sthn ONE.

ANTWNAROS: H shmerinh domh ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas, oson afora th symmetoxh kai ekproswpwn mikrwn xwrwn, mas briskei apolytws symfwnoys.

MPALIOS: Poso anhsyxoyn thn kybernhsh ta ayjanomena kroysmata aytoxeirias sto strato; Exoyn fqasei ta eji apo thn arxh toy etoys.

ANTWNAROS: Exei topoqethqei to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Meletatai to qema. Kaqe apwleia anqrwpinhs zwhs einai ena poly dysaresto symban gia thn koinwnia mas. To Geniko Epiteleio Stratoy dinei tis aparaithtes odhgies pros oles tis monades wste na apofeyxqoyn sto mellon kai alla tetoia poly dysaresta -- epanalambanw -- kroysmata apwleias anqrwpinwn zwwn.

KAKALHS: Me aformh thn epikhryjh toy ``Epanastatikoy Agwna'' shmera apo thn kybernhsh, dyo mhnes kai pleon meta to ktyphma sthn presbeia den yparxei kanena stoixeio gia toys drastes ths epiqeshs; Kai mia deyterh erwthsh: H prokhryjh einai asxeth apo tis pieseis poy askei h kybernhsh twn HPA, poy zhtoyn syllhceis ypoptwn h (den akoygetai) apo thn epikeimenh synanthsh ths k. Mpakogiannh me thn k. Rais.

ANTWNAROS: Bazete para polla pragmata mesa se mia mono erwthsh. Otan yparxei kati sygkekrimeno ws apotelesma mias astynomikhs h mias dikastikhs ereynas h opoia ginetai, opws gnwrizete, ayto to plhroforeiste. H Ellada einai mia anoixth koinwnia opoy oi dhmosiografoi exoyn prosbash kai stis phges kai stis plhrofories. Sto deytero qema poy qijate: H k. Mpakogiannh prokeitai ontws na episkefqei, episkeptetai aytes tis hmeres tis HPA sta plaisia twn stenwn epafwn, oi opoies yparxoyn metajy twn dyo kybernhsewn alla kai twn epafwn tis opoies diathrei kai kalliergei kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai bebaiws h epifortismenh me ta qemata ejwterikhs politikhs, h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Mpakogiannh me polles, me sxedon oles tis kybernhseis se olo ton kosmo. Prokeitai gia epafes oi opoies embaqynoyn tis dimereis sxeseis me alles xwres. Enisxyoyn th dimerh alla kai thn polymerh synergasia se polla epipeda.

KAKALHS: Den rwthsa gia thn apostolh toy tajidioy ths k. Mpakogiannh. Rwthsa ean yparxoyn pieseis apo th meria ths amerikanikhs kybernhshs gia syllhceis gia to ktyphma sthn presbeia.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw na yparxoyn tetoies pieseis. Synergazomaste, opws einai fysiko, me polles xwres ston tomea ths katapolemhshs ths tromokratias. Oi ereynes omws ginontai apo thn Ellhnikh Astynomia, apo Ellhnes kai Ellhnides poy yphretoyn sthn Ellhnikh Astynomia.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela to sxolio sas kai na rwthsw ean exoyme kanei kai diabhma: Den jerw ean eidate xqes se reportaz toy thleoptikoy ANTENNA, emfanizetai istoselida, toylaxiston na deixnei oti h Dytikh Qrakh einai kata mia ennoia toyrkikh katoxh me shmaia idiaiterh klp. Exete kapoio sxolio gi` ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Ej oswn plhroforhqhka apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, egine pragmati ena diabhma xqes to prwi apo to ellhniko Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn pros thn toyrkikh presbeia sthn Aqhna.

BLABIANOS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio gi` ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio peran aytoy. Asfalws katadikazoyme tetoies praktikes. To gegonos oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh kanei diabhma deixnei kai th stash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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