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GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 25 Septembrioy 2006

Ariqmos Deltioy: 31656479

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 25 Septembrioy 2006

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio, stis 11:00, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qemata poy aforoyn sto ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Stis 12:10 o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa synanthqei, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton Proedro ths Boylhs ths Indias k. Shri Somnath Chatterjee.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas:

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Papaqanasioy anakalyce skandalo me thn k. Basw Papandreoy. To eipe twra. Na ypoqesoyme oti dyomisi xronia twra ekane apokrych skandaloy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Papaqanasioy ekane mia anafora se pragmatika gegonota.

SIDERHS: Me ta opoia tekmhriwne, ti;

SPYRAKH: Exw dyo erwthseis: H prwth einai, ean o k. Papaqanasioy prin kanei thn anafora se pragmatika gegonota, opws eseis eipate prin apo ena lepto, eixe enhmerwsei gi' ayto to Megaro Majimoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws exw pei kai alles fores, o kaqe ypoyrgos dra sto plaisio twn drasthriothtwn toy. O k. Papaqanasioy epraje kalws me th xqesinh anakoinwsh.

SPYRAKH: To deytero poy qelw na sas rwthsw einai, ean exei apofasisei h kybernhsh na doqei twra kai oxi apo 1/1/2007 to poso twn 103 eyrw ws epidoma stoys daskaloys enanti toy epidomatos to opoio exei hdh proanaggeilei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayth thn wra poy milame an den exei arxisei, arxizei se liga lepta h synanthsh me thn ypoyrgo Paideias kai toys daskaloys. Amesws meta, h ypoyrgos Paideias qa probei se dhlwseis.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h erwthsh moy afora ton k. Panago Anagnwstopoylo, o opoios brisketai ston Korydallo kai htan kai megalo topiko stelexos, toylaxiston, ths Neas Dhmokratias. To gegonos oti yphrxan ereynes eis baros toy apo thn Interpol gia thn ypoqesh ths zaxarhs, den htan enas sobaros logos gia na mhn parei mia shmantikh kratikh qesh, opws htan to D.S. toy IKA, alla kai diafores alles, stis opoies ton topoqethse eite o k. Tsitoyridhs, eite o k. Cwmiadhs, eite o k. Papagewrgopoylos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Adiamfisbhthto gegonos einai oti ayth h kybernhsh den anexetai th diafqora poyqena. H kybernhsh ayth threi toys nomoys. H kybernhsh ayth einai ekeinh poy me to paradeigma ths dhlwnei oti politika den sygkalyptei, alla apokalyptei.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh ekfrazetai apo ton k. Papaqanasioy kai sth qesh kai oson afora to zhthma ths diarkeias toy galaktos, dhladh na diplasiastei o xronos diarkeias toy apo pente se deka hmeres; Einai ayth h epishmh qesh ths kybernhshs h toy yfypoyrgoy Gewrgias poy proteinei na parameinei stis pente hmeres;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai ena qema, to opoio, opws gnwrizete, exei syzhthqei kai alles fores dhmosiws kai malista sth Boylh, oxi twra. Dhladh den einai kati kainoyrgio poy anakalyfqhke shmera. Exoyn akoystei ekaterwqen apoceis. Ekeino poy exw na sas pw egw einai oti otan oloklhrwqei h ereyna ths Epitrophs Antagwnismoy gia ta qemata twn galaktokomikwn proiontwn, h opoia gnwrizete oti einai en ejelijei tote ta dyo ypoyrgeia qa exoyn olo to xrono na synennohqoyn, syzhtwntas kai me toys armodioys foreis, gia to ti prepei na ginei, ean prepei na ginei kati ston tomea ayto. Yparxoyn epixeirhmata kai apo th mia kai apo thn allh pleyra. Gia na exete oloklhrh thn eikona, yparxoyn epixeirhmata gia fqhnotero gala gia ton katanalwth, efoson epimhkynqei o xronos kai yparxoyn epixeirhmata gia problhmata poy tyxon antimetwpisei h ellhnikh galaktobiomhxania. Kai ta dyo ayta epixeirhmata, kai tis dyo aytes pleyres, ta synarmodia ypoyrgeia, mesa se pneyma kalhs synergasias, qa ereynhsoyn otan erqei o xronos.

SIDERHS: Se kyriakatikh synenteyjh toy o k. Almoynia eipe oti den ftanoyn ta metra poy phrate, htan mias kophs kai qa zhthsei diarqrwtika metra. To pairnete ypoch sas; Yparxei mia tetoia periptwsh diarqrwtikwn metrwn apo to 2007 h einai enas katwtatos ypallhlos kai den lambanetai ypoch h gnwmh toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to erwthma sas kai oxi to sxolio sas, qa hqela na sas pw oti h kybernhsh ayth exei labei diarqrwtika metra ta opoia einai ekeina poy apedwsan th meiwsh toy elleimmatos poy paralabame se ena poly megalo pososto kai se poly syntomo xrono.

SIDERHS: Den jerei ti leei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Allo erwthma.

KYRITSHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei periptwsh ayjhshs twn emmeswn forwn h twn eidikwn forwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokyptei kati tetoio. Den gnwrizw kati tetoio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean h energeia toy yfypoyrgoy Anaptyjhs, k. Papaqanasioy na kathgorhsei thn k. Basw Papandreoy h na ``fwtografisei'' thn k. Papandreoy gia thn ypoqesh ejagoras ths ``Bosinakh'' apo th FAGE anagetai sto plaisio toy symchfismoy politikwn eyqynwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Papaqanasioy kathgorhqhke gia sygkekrimena pragmata gia ta opoia den eipwqhkan para mono aorista stoixeia apo thn pleyra stelexoys toy PASOK. O k. Papaqanasioy, ws ofeile, apo thn pleyra toy, me thn armodiothta poy exei, alla kai prokeimenoy na fanei olh h alhqeia ston kosmo, edwse mia seira apo anafores sto pws leitoyrgoyse kai pws leitoyrgei h Epitroph Antagwnismoy. Gia paradeigma, to qema to opoio anaferate ws kathgoria, akoyei sthn poly aplh anafora toy k. Papaqanasioy oti dhladh, edw kai deka xronia, h monadikh parembash poy egine sto ergo ths Epitrophs Antagwnismoy gia na allajei apofash ths, egine apo ypoyrgo toy PASOK. Ayto einai ena pragmatiko dedomeno.

MPOTSARAKOS: Diabazoyme polla, akoyme polla, yparxei problhma sthn kybernhsh, yparxoyn kontres metajy ypoyrgwn, dhladh o kaqenas prospaqei na aposeisei tis eyqynes apo panw toy kai na tis rijei se kapoion allo ypoyrgo; Mhpws ayto einai sobarotero problhma, akomh kai apo ta problhmata poy antimetwpizei h kybernhsh me tis apokalyceis gia th diafqora;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa htan, ean eixe estw kai ixnos alhqeias.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, de katalabainw, h k. Papandreoy xqes eipe oti nomimws ekane anapomph ths apofashs kai ara, den yparxei kanena problhma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den milhse kaneis gia paranomia. O k. Papaqanasioy to leei ayto sth dhlwsh toy me safhneia. Oti dhladh egine mia parembash allaghs apofashs ths Epitrophs Antagwnismoy. Exei to dikaiwma o ypoyrgos. Aplws, qymise ena pragmatistiko gegonos, oti dhladh ta teleytaia deka xronia ayto exei ginei mono se mia periptwsh. Fantazeste na eixe ginei me ypoyrgo ths Neas Dhmokratias, na eixe allajei h apofash ths Epitrophs Antagwnismoy;

POYLIDOY: Fantazomai na eixe ginei apo to nomarxh Qessalonikhs kati tetoio.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia thn Epitroph Antagwnismoy, thn Epitroph ekeinh h opoia einai se qesh h ofeilei na einai se qesh na elegjei thn agora kai toys kanones ths agoras. Fantazeste alhqeia enas ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs ths Neas Dhmokratias na eixe allajei thn apofash ths; Qa eixe ginei prwtoselido se para polles efhmerides kai qa ginotan epiqesh kai enantion toy ypoyrgoy poy parenebh kai ths kybernhshs.

KORAH: Qa epanelqw sto qema gia to opoio sas rwthsa prin. Qa hqela mia dieykrinish. H kybernhsh prin topoqethsei ton k. Anagnwstopoylo stis sygkekrimenes qeseis, hjere gia thn Interpol, h den hjere kai pali yparxei kapoia proxeirothta sthn epilogh toy proswpoy; Poio apo ta dyo symbainei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizete oti ta pragmata sth zwh den einai aspro  mayro. Se kaqe periptwsh, ekeino to opoio parakoloyqw einai h hqikh stash twn pragmatwn kai ayto exei na kanei kai me thn kybernhsh. Exei na kanei dhladh me th symperifora mias kybernhshs apenanti se fainomena diafqoras. Otan ayth h kybernhsh blepei fainomena diafqoras, den kleinei ta matia, den ta koykoylwnei. Ta apokalyptei kai zhtei thn apolyth thrhsh toy nomoy. Ayto exei kai th megalyterh ajia.

KORAH: Parathroyme tis teleytaies hmeres mia kontra metajy twn ypoyrgeiwn Anaptyjhs kai Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs gia to qema toy galaktos. Dhladh, to men Anaptyjhs leei oti h zwh toy freskoy galaktos na parataqei syn pente hmeres, dhladh na paei stis deka, opote etsi qa anoijei kai o dromos twn eisagwgwn kai qa pesoyn oi times kai exoyme thn antidrash toy ypoyrgeioy Gewrgias, to opoio leei oxi, giati etsi qa dhmioyrghqei problhma stoys Ellhnes kthnotrofoys. Poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me kolakeyei na pisteyw oti aporrofhmenh apo thn apanthsh poy sas edwsa sthn arxh, den akoysate oti hdh rwthqhke to qema kai exw dwsei apanthsh.

KORAH: Nai. Qelw kai diko sas sxolio omws.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, exw kanei hdh sxolio se erwthseis synadelfoy sas.

SARANTAKOS: Tis teleytaies dyo hmeres apo merida toy hlektronikoy Typoy kyriws, proeblhqh ena qema oti ginontai syzhthseis sthn kybernhsh, se epipedo senariwn panta, gia prowres ekloges. Exei ginei tetoia syzhthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

SARANTAKOS: To deytero erwthma: Yparxei skech gia parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, prokeimenoy na stamathsei ayth h syzhthsh peri skandalwn, diafqoras, anadromhs sto parelqon, epiqeseis gia to mellon, emplokes ypoyrgwn, prwhn ypoyrgwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei kanei dhmosia parembash apo th Qessalonikh, topoqetoymenos, opws pantote, apenanti sta pragmata me thn idia logikh, ayth poy eixa thn eykairia na epanalabw, shmera, hdh treis fores.

SARANTAKOS: Epeidh synexizetai, gi' ayto sas rwtw jana. Apo th Qessalonikh mexri shmera yparxoyn gegonota.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh.

KYRITSHS: Kanenas ypoyrgos ths Neas Dhmokratias den exei meiwsei pote kanena prostimo; Deyteron, ta prostima ta opoia epiballontai parakoloyqeite telika an plhrwnontai giati yparxei plhroforia oti menoyn aneisprakta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den jerw an me akoysate h oxi apolyta, einai bebaio oti den me akoysate na lew kati sxetiko me ayto poy eipate eseis. Dhladh to erwthma sas den exei kamia sxesh me ta osa exw pei mexri twra. Ean me rwtate peri meiwsews ...

KYRITSHS: Aytotelws tote.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Aytotelws loipon, o k. Papaqanasioy edwse xqes mia poly kalh apanthsh se orismena qemata opws ayta poy moy anaferete, sthn opoia apanthsh toy exoyn endiaferon oi ariqmoi: Apo to Martio toy 2004 ews shmera, h Epitroph Antagwnismoy exei epibalei prostima ycoys 28,5 ekatommyriwn eyrw kai ekkremoyn ypoqeseis gia tis opoies yparxoyn hdh eishghseis gia prostima ths tajhs twn 100 ekatommyriwn eyrw. Apo to 1995 ews ton Febroyario toy 2004, h Epitroph Antagwnismoy eixe epibalei prostima molis tessarwn ekatommyriwn, 100 xiliadwn eyrw. Dhladh, se 2,5 xronia diakybernhshs ths Neas Dhmokratias exoyn epiblhqei epta fores ychlotera prostima apo osa synolika eixan epiblhqei sta ennea xronia diakybernhshs toy PASOK. Ayto einai mia akomh apodeijh politikhs boylhshs poy ginetai prajh.

KYRITSHS: Xairomai poy sas edwsa thn eykairia na mas peite ayta ta noymera, alla sas rwthsa ean genika oi ypoyrgoi ths Neas Dhmokratias meiwnoyn prostima h den meiwnoyn. Ayto htan h aytotelhs...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sthn aytotelh erwthsh sas den exw para na sas parapemcw sto armodio ypoyrgeio na kanete to reportaz sas kai na bgalete ta symperasmata sas. Se kaqe periptwsh, ena symperasma to opoio synagetai apolytws apo toys ariqmoys poy sas edwsa, einai oti oi ypoyrgoi ayths ths kybernhshs den xarizontai.

SPYRAKH: Pws aitiologeite thn protimhsh twn stelexwn poy yphretoyn sto grafeio toy k. Sioyfa kai sto grafeio toy G.G. toy k. Stefanoy, gia dyo stelexh poy shmera apokalyptei h efhmerida ta NEA thn protimhsh toys na proxwrhsoyn se metatajh sto Geniko Logisthrio toy Kratoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokeitai na aitiologhsw protimhsh, apofash, apoch, dioti h nomimh odos twn apospasewn h opoia akoloyqhqhke kai akoloyqeitai epi seiran etwn kai se ayth kai sthn prohgoymenh kybernhsh den eteqh pote ypo amfisbhthsh. Ean teqei ypo amfisbhthsh h en pash periptwsei ypo anaqewrhsh, to kaqestws twn apospasewn, twn metatajewn k.l.p. tote na to janasyzhthsoyme.

SPYRAKH: Ean moy epitrepete edw yparxei enas syndyasmos. Apospash sto grafeio toy ypoyrgoy kai sto grafeio toy G.G. kai parallhlh metatajh twn dyo ypallhlwn, eis ek twn opoiwn einai kai metalleiologos. Kai oi dyo einai omws sto Geniko Logisthrio toy Kratoys me metatajh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den antilambanomai ti ennoeite. Lete oti den exoyn ta typika prosonta;

SPYRAKH: Rwtaw, epanaferw pali to qema me thn ennoia oti ektos apo thn apospash sthn opoia anaferqhkate kai moy eipate oti einai kaq' ola nomimh kai oydepote eteqh se amfisbhthsh, an gnwrizete pws aitiologeitai h metatajh aytwn twn dyo stelexwn sto Geniko Logisthrio toy Kratoys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Epitrecte moy na pisteyw oti den einai sthn armodiothta toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy na gnwrizei oles aytes tis leptomereies. Shmasia exei ayto poy sas eipa prohgoymenws: Ean dhladh enas ypoyrgos eite epi kybernhsews Neas Dhmokratias, eite epi kybernhsews PASOK, eixe th dynatothta na probei se apospaseis h se metatajeis dhmosiwn ypallhlwn - gnwrizetai oti o nomos to epitrepei - kai pws xeiristhke ayth th dynatothta.

MANH: Eipate prohgoymenws sthn k. Korah, poy sas rwthse gia to shma ths Interpol, oti h kybernhsh apokalyptei, den sygkalyptei kai timwrei. To sygkekrimeno qema me to shma ths Interpol den to apokalyce h kybernhsh, to apokalycan efhmerides. Sygkekrimena h ``Kyriakatikh Eleyqerotypia''. Apo tis hmeromhnies omws prokyptei oti th stigmh poy h Interpol anazhtoyse piqanh anameijh toy Panagoy sthn ypoqesh narkwtikwn, thn idia akribws periodo o k. Anagnwstopoylos analambane epikefalhs ths proeklogikhs ekstrateias toy k. Cwmiadh, boyleyth tote ths Neas Dhmokratias. H erwthsh loipon einai: Hjere h Nea Dhmokratia tote ws komma, den htan kybernhsh, oti yphrxe tetoia emplokh toy k. Anagnwstopoyloy, h den to hjere kai to emaqe xqes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H apanthsh moy htan safhs kai den xreiazetai poly perissotero, para na analysei kanenas ayto to opoio sas eipa. Dhladh, oti ayth h kybernhsh th stigmh poy anakalyptei oti ginetai opoiadhpote paratypia h paranomia, den thn sygkalyptei alla thn apokalyptei. Threi to nomo.

MANH: O k. Papagewrgopoylos paradexqhke xqes oti o k. Kartsiwths einai dieyqynths ths TEDKQ, ths opoias egine kai monimos ypallhlos persi. Taytoxrona paramenei apo osa jeroyme dieyqynwn symboylos ths Hellexpo. Einai swsto ayto; Plhrwnetai dhladh dyo fores apo to Dhmosio. Einai ena synhqismeno fainomeno;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean zhtate th nomikh moy gnwmh, den exw na sas apanthsw. Qa prepei na dw ta sygkekrimena stoixeia, dhladh na kanw ereyna - etsi opws poly apla qa mporoysa na pw - gia na diapistwsw ti akribws symbainei. Eimai bebaios oti qa yparjei, efoson exei ginei kapoia kataggelia, epishmh apanthsh apo ton armodio - dhladh apo ton sygkekrimeno anqrwpo - gia to ean kati to opoio exei symbei exei thn opoiadhpote yponoia paratypias.

MELIGKWNHS: Se shmerinh efhmerida anaferetai oti h dioikhsh Boyrloymh ston OTE aifnidiase toys syndikalistes dinontas toys gia ta epomena dyo xronia ayjhseis ths tajhs toy 13%. Ayto entassetai sthn strathgikh ths kybernhshs na kanei ton OTE elkystikotero me ergasiakh eirhnh gia toys ypochfioys agorastes toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw to sygkekrimeno dhmosieyma. Ekeino to opoio gnwrizw einai oti o k. Boyrloymhs eixe kathgorhqei apo tines twn syndikalistwn giati enw den katelhgan oi synomilies, eixe frontisei - para ta osa exoyn symbei ston topo genikws ta teleytaia xronia - na proteinei ayjhsh kai en synexeia, analoga me to poy qa katelhgan oi diapragmateyseis na orizotan to sygkekrimeno poso ths ayjhshs. Dhladh elege ``parte apo twra ayth thn ayjhsh kai otan katalhjoyn oi diapragmateyseis an einai megalyterh qa parete kai ta epi pleon''. H politikh ths kybernhshs ston tomea toy Organismoy Thlepikoinwniwn Ellados exei anaptyxqei edw kai 2,5 xronia me safh tropo. Me tropo o opoios enisxyei th dynatothta wste ayth h epixeirhsh na ginei antagwnistikh kai na parexei kalyterh poiothta ergasiwn se ena pragmatika sklhra pleon antagwnistiko periballon, metajy pollwn idiwtikwn etairiwn, polyeqnikwn etairiwn, oi opoies drasthriopoioyntai.

PALAIOLOGOS: To perasmeno Sabbatokyriako mas apasxolhsan idiaitera oi kataggelies poy eginan ekaterwqen apo thn pleyra toy k. Papaqanasioy kai toy k. Koyloyrh se sxesh me gnwsth galaktobiomhxania. Shmera o k. Papaqanasioy kateqese agwgh apo oti maqainoyme kai apo oti mas exei plhroforhsei. Qewreite pws oi agwges metajy politikwn proswpwn einai to prosforotero meson gia thn epilysh twn opoiwn diaforwn kai kataggeliwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai sigoyra enas nomimos tropos gia na diekdikhsei kapoios to dikio toy kai na mporesei na kinhqei apenanti se aytoys oi opoioi laspologoyn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Htan se gnwsh twn stelexwn toy Megaroy Majimoy h kinhsh ayth toy k. Papaqanasioy oti qa proebaine se agwgh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei daimonopoihqei h ypoqesh toy ti einai se gnwsh kai ti den einai se gnwsh. Qa moy epitrecete na mhn mpw se ayth th diadikasia, ektimwntas -bebaiws mporei na exoyme diaforetikh apoch- oti tetoioy eidoys erwthmata kinoyntai perissotero sth sfaira ths parapolitikhs para sthn politikh thn opoia ypoxreoymai na diakonw apo ayth th qesh.

MPOTSARAKOS: Omws, gia na ginei ayth h anakoinwsh kati hqele na katadeijei o k. Papaqanasioy. Profanws, to idio poy epishmanate kai eseis sth shmerinh sas dhlwsh. To erwthma einai, giati ayta ta dyomish xronia den epishmanqhke ayth h parembash poy egine thn periodo poy h k. Papandreoy htan sto ypoyrgeio; Efoson yparxei qema, giati den anaferqhke nwritera na to gnwrisei h koinh gnwmh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka molis prin apo ligo akribws to idio erwthma. Exw dwsei apanthsh. Ean den sas ikanopoiei h apanthsh moy, mporeite na th sxoliasete.

SARANTAKOS: O k. Koyloyrhs, prin kanei ayth thn kataggelia gia ton k. Papaqanasioy kai ta proeklogika geymata, eipe oti thn plhroforia ayth thn eixe dwsei boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias kai otan piesthke apo dhmosiografoys -an den kanw laqos- sthn thleorash toy ALPHA, eipe oti o boyleyths einai sthn Amerikh. Exei ginei ereyna apo to komma gia to poios einai aytos o boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias, o opoios leei ayta ta pragmata gia yfypoyrgo ths kybernhshs kai an pragmati ta eipe;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas diabazw apo th dhlwsh toy k. Papaqanasioy, apeyqynomenos sta osa eipe o k. Koyloyrhs. ``Afoy'', eipe o k. Papaqanasioy, oti dystyxws enw edwse ston k. Koyloyrh thn eykairia, th dynatothta na anakalesei ta osa sykofantika yposthrije enantion toy, synexizei: ``Qa exei th megalh eykairia na mas tis apokalycei aytes tis nees ekplhjeis, gia tis opoies milhse o k. Koyloyrhs, enwpion ths Dikaiosynhs''.

SPYRAKH: Giati oi plhrofories poy epikalesthke o k. Koyloyrhs kai oi opoies, opws leei o k. Koyloyrhs, proerxontai apo boyleyth ths Neas Dhmokratias, o opoios, opws eipe o k. Koyloyrhs, brisketai sthn Amerikh. Einai plhrofories poy o sygkekrimenos boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias emfanizetai na tis exei pei se phgadaki kai einai koino mystiko poio einai to proswpo. Epimenw, h kybernhsh, en prokeimenw to Megaro Majimoy, exei ereynhsei ean pragmati isxyei oti enas boyleyths exei pei tetoia pragmata poy phran tetoia diastash;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Blepw oti biazeste. Giati biazeste; Me bash ayta ta opoia leei o k. Papaqanasioy, qa exei para poly endiaferon ayth h ypoqesh sth Dikaiosynh. Kai eimai bebaios, giati pisteyw ton k. Papaqanasioy.

KYRITSHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sthn Italia, opoy epishs yphrxe ena skandalo ypoklopwn, h diereynhsh exei proxwrhsei. Proshxqhsan kai synelhfqhsan, en synexeia, kapoioi paragontes akomh kai o yparxhgos twn mystikwn Yphresiwn. Kai epeidh qymamai pro ebdomadas ton k. Zagorith me tis xeiropedes k.t.l... , edw sthn Ellada pws paei ayth h ypoqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelete na peite gia thn akribeia ths apodoshs sthn ellhnikh glwssa, oti qymaste ton k. Zagorith na kanei mia dhlwsh gia tis xeiropedes.

KYRITSHS: Nai, oxi na foraei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Etsi opws to eipate kai deijate kai ta xeria sas... Poio einai to erwthma sas;

KYRITSHS: Poy brisketai ayth h ypoqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, einai sth Dikaiosynh.

KYRITSHS: Kai sthn Italia egine thn idia periodo, alla blepoyme oti asxoloyntai kai den parakoloyqoysan...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelete na kanw kritikh h krish enantion h yper ths Dikaiosynhs;

KYRITSHS: Mporeite na kanete kai yper, ean qelete. Den me noiazei emena.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa ``kritikh h krish enantion h yper''. H Dikaiosynh kineitai eleyqerh sthn ypoqesh ayth, opws allwste se oles tis ypoqeseis. H Dikaiosynh kineitai eleyqerh apo to Syntagma kai toys dhmokratikoys kanones.

XIWTHS: An diapistwqei oti boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias symmeteixe sth diaspora fhmwn h plhroforiwn enantion ths kybernhshs kai sygkekrimenoy yfypoyrgoy, o boyleyths aytos qa exei kyrwseis h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean symbei, elate na me rwthsete.

XIWTHS: Ti ``an symbei'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: To exw pei polles fores: Me to ``ean'' qa apanthsw se erwthsh; Kanenas den qa to ekane sth qesh moy.

XIWTHS: As to kanoyme tote pio sygkekrimeno, giati twra fobomaste nomizw na poyme to onoma.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai diko sas qema. Pantws, h ypoqesh ayth einai sth Dikaiosynh kai prokeitai na ekdikastei. Ara, loipon, krinete eseis ti prepei na kanete, eite edw, eite sthn efhmerida sas. Kanete o,ti nomizete.

XIWTHS: O boyleyths aytos einai o k. Kammenos. Ara, einai enas boyleyths ths Neas Dhmokratias. Den sas apasxolei ean alhqeyoyn aytes oi fhmes kai o k. Kammenos prokalese olo ayto to qorybo h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa elega oti elafrynei kapws to yfos ths kataggelias sas h xrhsh thn lejhs ``fhmes''. Kai qa meinw se ayto.

SARANTAKOS: Eipate prohgoymenws sthn k. Spyrakh oti pisteyete ton k. Papaqanasioy sta osa leei. Swsto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eyxaristw.

SARANTAKOS: Ayto shmainei oti yparxei enas sykofanths sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias. Egw den jerw ean einai o k. Kammenos h kapoios allos, yparxei omws kapoios o opoios leei cemata gia enan yfypoyrgo. Ayrio, o idios anqrwpos, mporei na pei cemata gia allon ypoyrgo. Ayto den apasxolei thn kybernhsh kai thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Dhladh, sta sobara erwtwmai tosh wra oti bghke enas boyleyths toy PASOK kai eipe kati enantion enos yfypoyrgoy ths kybernhshs ths Neas Dhmokratias kai anti na meinei kanenas sto pws kai to giati o boyleyths toy PASOK eipe ayta poy eipe, ta opoia prokalesan agwgh enantion toy, pame sthn epiklhsh deytereyoyshs ajias protasews toy boyleyth toy PASOK oti ``ayta moy ta eipe kapoios allos''; Kai leme oti aytos o ``kapoios allos'' mporei na einai o A', o B', o G' h o D'; H oysia einai mia: O boyleyths toy PASOK ekane mia dhmosia dhlwsh. O yfypoyrgos k. Papaqanasioy ton kalese na diorqwsei, legontas toy oti ean den diorqwsei, qa prosfygei sth Dikaiosynh. Den diorqwse, prosefyge sth Dikaiosynh kai qa exei poly endiaferon ayth h ypoqesh.

SPYRAKH: Ean moy epitrepete, o boyleyths toy PASOK -epeidh to xarakthrizete deytereyoyshs ajias- epikaleitai ws phgh toy...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti xarakthrizw deytereyoyshs ajias;

SPYRAKH: To gegonos oti epikaleitai ws phgh toy th martyria.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Milhsa gia protash deytereyoyshs ajias.

SPYRAKH: Nai, se ayto to shmeio anaferomai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai einai deytereyoyshs ajias. To prwteyoyshs ajias qema einai...

SPYRAKH: H idia h kataggelia, symfwnw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: ....h ybris, thn opoia aphyqyne enantion toy k. Papaqanasioy.

SPYRAKH: Symfwnoyme oti h prwteyoyshs ajias einai ayth, h idia h kataggelia. Qa hqela aplws na sas rwthsw, ean sas problhmatizei oti olh ayth h fhmh gyrw apo to proswpo poy anefere o synadelfos dinei thn aisqhsh oti o sygkekrimenos boyleyths eixe kai eswterikh plhroforhsh gia th drasthriothta toy k. Filippoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan enas boyleyths ftanei na kanei kataggelies, qelw na pisteyw oti, efoson exei dwsei orko sto Syntagma kai stoys kanones Dhmokratias, exei kai th dynatothta na tis apodeijei. Kaleitai, loipon, o k. Koyloyrhs na apodeijei tis kataggelies toy.

MPOTSARAKOS: Epeidh me toys ``koymparoys'' jexasthkame ligo, h Ellada exei thn Proedria sto Symboylio Asfaleias. Qelw na mas peite, ean yphrje kapoio bhma apo th synedriash ths teleytaias ebdomadas. Yphrje kapoio ofelos apo thn ellhnikh Proedria h ta pragmata emeinan kollhmena ekei poy htan;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na epanalabw merika apo ta osa eipe xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, milwntas se mia ekdhlwsh gia thn eirhnh gia to rolo ths Elladas otan anelabe th qesh kai thn eyqynh ths Proedrias sto Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE, se mia periodo poy polla kai sobara zhthmata apasxoloyn th dieqnh koinh gnwmh kai th dieqnh Koinothta. O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti kyriarxh qesh metajy aytwn twn krisimwn zhthmatwn gia thn asfaleia kai thn eirhnh, katexei h arabo-israhlinh dienejh. Oso diarkei, qa paragei astaqeia kai kriseis me arnhtiko antiktypo, oxi mono sth geitonikh mas perioxh ths Meshs Anatolhs, alla kai eyrytera sto dieqnes periballon. To katedeije me tragiko tropo h prosfath krish sto Libano. Apaiteitai, loipon, h dieqnhs Koinothta na steilei isxyra mhnymata kai na kanei gennaia bhmata gia thn ejodo apo th shmerinh katastash anasfaleias. Apaiteitai mia nea syllogikh prospaqeia gia na perasei h Mesh Anatolh sth staqerothta, sthn eirhnikh synyparjh kratwn kai lawn me sebasmo toy enos gia ta dikaiwmata twn allwn. H ektakth Synodos toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE, ths 21hs Septembrioy, se epipedo Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, apotelese istoriko oroshmo gi` ayth th syllogikh prospaqeia eirhnhs. H pragmatopoihsh ths htan ena dyskolo stoixhma gia thn ellhnikh Proedria. Ena stoixhma poy telika kerdhqhke ws apotelesma meqodikhs kai entatikhs doyleias, epibebaiwnontas oti h xwra mas einai dynamh eirhnhs, enas sobaros ajiopistos etairos kai synomilhths eyryterhs apodoxhs. Den einai tyxaio oti oi energeies ths ellhnikhs Proedrias etyxan ths apodoxhs olwn kai twn dhmosiwn sygxarhthriwn olwn gia ta osa h xwra mas katafere na kanei se ayto to diasthma. Kai meta to peras ths Proedrias toy Symboylioy Asfaleias, emeis qa parameinoyme energoi, me prospaqeies yper ths staqerothtas, ths eirhnhs kai ths anaptyjhs sthn eyryterh perioxh mas.

PALAIOLOGOS: H apanthsh sas moy kinhse thn periergeia na rwthsw gia th xqesinh ekdhlwsh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias k. Karoloy Papoylia, sthn opoia parabreqhke o Prwqypoyrgos, den yphrje omws ekproswphsh se analogo epipedo apo thn pleyra toy PASOK kai oi diarroes, toylaxiston h ta shmerina dhmosieymata kanoyn logo gia mia parejhghsh poy ofeiletai sthn allagh toy programmatos gia to opoio, enw arxika den htan na milhsoyn oi ypoyrgoi Amynas kai Paideias, en toytois, telika allaje to programma, me apotelesma to PASOK na ekfrasei th dysforia toy, kata kapoio tropo, ekproswpoymeno mono apo ena boyleyth kai oxi apo ton arxhgo toy. Poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oloi ofeiloyn na sebontai sthn prajh kai oxi mono sta logia, toys qesmoys ths Dhmokratias. Kai na mhn toys ypotassoyn se mikrokommatikes skopimothtes.

Sas eyxaristw.

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