Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-02-09

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Aqhna, 9 Febroyarioy 2006

Xairete.

H plhroforia gia epafes stelexwn toy PASOK me ajiwmatoyxoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, poy eide shmera to fws ths dhmosiothtas, dhmioyrgei apories kai prokalei skeceis gia to ean to PASOK, ektos apo thn programmatismenh kai dhmosia emfanizomenh drasthriothta toy, diaqetei kai deyterh drasthriothta, thn opoia krata aqeath. To qema, hdh, exei kataggeilei sth Boylh kai exei ypobalei erwthmata o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.

Qa ypobalw kai egw orismena akomh erwthmata:

-Ean alhqeyei oti h synanthsh poy egine apo thn k. Papandreoy, ypeyqynh toy tomea oikonomikwn toy PASOK, me armodio epitropo gia ta oikonomika, egine kai ean alhqeyei oti egine katopin synennohshs toy k. Papandreoy.

-Ti skopo eixe;

-An yparxei kryfh atzenta toy PASOK stis Bryjelles.

Ta erwthmata ayta, opws katalabainete, tiqentai oxi ws ekfrash aplhs aporias, alla epeidh einai kaqara politikh kinhsh ayto to ranteboy kai epeidh sto parelqon diakriqhkan stelexh toy PASOK sthn yponomeysh qematwn. Qymizw merika paradeigmata: Eixame tria stelexh toy PASOK poy esteilan epistolh sthn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph gia thn oikonomia kai thn apografh. Phran apostomwtikh apanthsh gia thn apografh kai thn anagkaiothta na ginei. Qymizw epistolh kai parembash toy eyrwboyleyth toy PASOK k. Shfoynakh, o opoios zhtoyse thn parapomph ths Elladas sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio gia to arqro 14 par. 9 toy Syntagmatos gia to basiko metoxo. O k. Papandreoy, loipon, ofeilei na apanthsei shmera h o idios h dia toy ekproswpoy toy, ean yparxei kryfh atzenta toy PASOK stis Bryjelles se zhthmata eqnikhs politikhs.

Qa ypobalw kai ena deytero erwthma ston arxhgo toy PASOK. Den gnwrizw ean parakoloyqei tis eidhseis, ean parakoloyqei thleorash, ean parakoloyqei tis dhlwseis twn stelexwn toy, alla kai pali shmera to prwi o k. Pagkalos milhse gia parabash kaqhkontos toy eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy kai toy eisaggelea Prwtodikwn. Dhladh, epiteqhke kai pali se leitoyrgoys ths Dikaiosynhs. Kai janarwtw, dyo metra kai dyo staqma exei to PASOK gia th Dikaiosynh; Dikaiosynh ``a la carte'' epiqymei to PASOK; H siwph toy PASOK, h siwph toy k. Papandreoy, h siwph toy ekproswpoy toy, einai -an mh ti allo- enoxh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MPALHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mias kai jekinhsate me to PASOK, xqes akoysthkan skeceis apo kapoia stelexh toy PASOK gia kataqesh protashs momfhs sthn kybernhsh. Pisteyete oti me ton enan h ton allo tropo ayth h ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn mporei na odhghsei th xwra se prowres ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei kamia syndesh toy enos qematos me to allo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, me ayta poy eipate sthn arxh me ayth th dhlwsh gia tis epafes toy PASOK me ajiwmatoyxoys ths KOMISION qewreite oti to PASOK yponomeyei thn kybernhsh, yponomeyei th xwra sto ejwteriko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To PASOK, opws kai kaqe komma, exei dikaiwma na kanei epafes sto plaisio toy politikoy dialogoy poy ginetai kai edw kai sto ejwteriko. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, epeidh aytes den einai proswpikes epafes gia na kratoyntai mystikes, ofeilei na tis anakoinwsei. Ypo ayth thn ennoia egine to erwthma-kataggelia -an qelete- apo emena, alla kai apo ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn sth Boylh.

RABANOS: Giati ayth h spoydh na anaferqeite sthn episkech ths k. Papandreoy stis Bryjelles; Fobaste kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Den fobamai tipota apolytws. Ekeino to opoio, omws, ofeiloyme na kanoyme oloi mas, eite briskomaste sthn politikh, eite se opoiadhpote pleyra ths dhmosias zwhs toy topoy, einai na blepoyme ta pragmata katamata. Na mhn apokryptoyme gegonota kai na mhn kanoyme pws den katalabainoyme. Epanalambanw oti se kaqe periptwsh to PASOK, dia twn stelexwn toy sto prosfato parelqon, eite sto qema ths apografhs, eite sto qema toy basikoy metoxoy, edeije me thn politikh toy oti dhmioyrgei problhmata sthn politikh ths kybernhshs. Egw den qa xrhsimopoihsw to bary oro poy xrhsimopoihse synadelfos sas se erwthsh nwritera, alla anarwtietai kaneis giati arage prepei na ginontai en kryptw tetoies synanthseis; Ti skopo ejyphretoyn; Yparxei mystikh atzenta; Se o,ti afora thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, qelw na sas qymisw oti akoysthkan para polla, gia ena poly megalo xroniko diasthma, gia tis perifhmes titlopoihseis gia paradeigma. H kybernhsh dexqhke para poly megalh epiqesh. Den blepw poyqena dhmosiothta gia to oti oi titlopoihseis aytes egkriqhkan, opws eixame syzhthsei polles fores se ayth thn aiqoysa.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, giati ofeilei na tis anakoinwsei to PASOK tis synanthseis; Eseis mas exete pei edw oti mia seira synanthsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy h allwn stelexwn den qelete na tis anakoinwsete, giati ayth einai praktikh. Giati to PASOK jafnika ofeilei na anakoinwnei tis epafes toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ejartatai gia poies synanthseis milame. Ean milame, gia paradeigma, gia th synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy ths xwras me ena dhmosiografo -giati ekei eteqh to qema, opws qymaste polles fores kai apanthsa- @

POYLIDOY: Kai me epixeirhmaties.

ROYSOPOYLOS: @h me polloys dhmosiografoys, doqhke poly sygkekrimenh apanthsh apo emena giati den prepei na anakoinwnontai ta ranteboy toy Prwqypoyrgoy me dhmosiografoys h me ekdotes MME. Edw, omws, den exoyme na kanoyme me ena opoiodhpote ranteboy. Exoyme na kanoyme me ranteboy ychlobaqmoy stelexoys toy PASOK, to opoio xrhmatise sto parelqon kai epitropos ths xwras sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, me epitropo armodio gia ta oikonomika. Kai erwta kaneis to PASOK, giati den anakoinwnei aytoy toy eidoys ta ranteboy; Exontas ypoch oti yphrxan epistoles -kai anaferqhka se dyo apo aytes- kai synanthseis stis opoies ta stelexh toy PASOK kalesan ton armodio epitropo, se mia toylaxiston periptwsh toy basikoy metoxoy, na steilei th xwra sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio, anarwtietai eylogws h kybernhsh -kai ayto kanw shmera enwpion sas- ean to PASOK exei mystikh politikh atzenta stis Bryjelles kai ti stoxoys ejyphretei.

POYLIDOY: Ean, dhladh, den htan mystikh h synanthsh, den qa eixate problhma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emeis, kanena problhma. Oyte twra exoyme kapoio problhma. Emeis qetoyme erwthmata.

POYLIDOY: Twra dhmioyrgeitai ena problhma. Pws; Milate gia aqemito antagwnismo.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Profanws, gia na thn kratoyn mystikh. Giati ean einai fanerh mia synanthsh sth synexeia, opws gnwrizete, qa klhqei aytos poy synanthqhke apo toys dhmosiografoys, na pei ti eipe. Qa pei stoys dhmosiografoys, dhladh, oti zhthsa ayto to ranteboy gi` ayto kai gi` ayto to logo. Endexomenws kai h allh pleyra qa pei gia poio logo zhthqhke to ranteboy kai ti syzhthqhke. Oyden mempton. Epanalambanw gia trith fora, oyden mempton genikws toy na ginontai synanthseis. Omws, to erwthma tiqetai apo th stigmh poy tetoioy eidoys synanthseis den anakoinwnontai. Den qymamai na phge pote o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs h armodia stelexh gia qemata oikonomias h anaptyjhs otan hmastan sthn antipoliteysh, na synanthsoyn epitropoys sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai na mhn to anakoinwsoyme.

POYLIDOY: Qewreite oti yparxei kati mempto, mias kai eipate sto gegonos oti xqes o k. Boylgarakhs kai o k. Papalhgoyras akyrwsan th synenteyjh Typoy, thn opoia eixan sygkalesei oi idioi, dioti den toys arese h erwthsh poy toys eteqh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw ti akribws egine.

POYLIDOY: To eidate sthn thleorash, opws to eidame oloi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na akyrwqhke, oxi. Alla, se kaqe periptwsh, exoyn apanthsei o k. Boylgarakhs kai o k. Papalhgoyras se polywrh synedriash sth Boylh kai se diwrh kai pleon syzhthsh-synenteyjh se ayth thn aiqoysa. Den yparxei kanena problhma. Egw eimai kaqe hmera gia poly wra enwpion sas, prokeimenoy na apanthsw se erwthmata poy aforoyn kai to qema twn ypoklopwn.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie ekproswpe, oxi. Synadelfoi phgan sto Loytraki na parakoloyqhsoyn mia synenteyjh Typoy. Qetoyn thn prwth erwthsh kai oi dyo ypoyrgoi feygoyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, kanete laqos. Phgan sto Loytraki, prokeimenoy na parakoloyqhsoyn mia synedriash.

POYLIDOY: Gia na maqoyn to ti egine sth synedriash apo th synenteyjh Typoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Phgan na parakoloyqhsoyn mia synedriash. Oxi na parakoloyqhsoyn mia synenteyjh Typoy.

POYLIDOY: Den htan mesa sth synedriash k. Ekproswpe. Apo th synenteyjh Typoy qa maqainan.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Amesws meta, eginan dhlwseis gi` ayta ta qemata.

POYLIDOY: Oi opoies dhlwseis den eginan. Ayto sas ejhgw. H prwth erwthsh htan ayth kai teleiwse.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Mporei na mhn apanthqhkan polles erwthseis, alla den shmainei oti den eginan dhlwseis.

POYLIDOY: Mia erwthsh egine kai teleiwse h synenteyjh Typoy. To eidame oloi stis thleoraseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw oti mporei na mhn apanthqhkan polles erwthseis, alla eginan dhlwseis apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys. Kaqe ypoyrgos krinei ton tropo me ton opoio qa xeiristei ena qema sth dhmosiothta. To poia qemata qa doqoyn sth dhmosiothta me tis dhlwseis toy kai poia oxi.

BLAXOS: Mesa stoys xeirismoys einai kai to na feygei o ypoyrgos;

TSIODRAS: Se sxesh me to PASOK, ayto to opoio enoxlhse einai to gegonos oti egine kryfa to ranteboy h ypociazeste oti sth diarkeia ths syzhthshs zhthqhke kati@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw. Alla apo ena prohgoymeno kryfo ranteboy kai mia epistolh toy k. Shfoynakh, eyrwboyleyths toy PASOK, stelexos toy PASOK, kaloyse thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph na steilei th xwra mas sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. Egw, loipon, lew anoikta kai jekaqara: To PASOK otan phgainei stis Bryjelles kai synantatai, ofeilei, oxi gia logoys politikhs abrothtas, alla gia logoys politikhs taktikhs kai strathgikhs, na anakoinwnei ta ranteboy. Na leei gia poio logo syzhta, poia qemata syzhta. Exei kaqe dikaiwma na kanei synanthseis. Makari na phgainei kai na syzhta yper twn eqnikwn symferontwn. Exoyme paradeigmata opoy oi syzhthseis stelexwn toy PASOK stis Bryjelles den htan yper twn eqnikwn symferontwn. Giati, mh moy peite oti einai yper toy eqnikoy symferontos na kaleitai h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph na steilei th xwra sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio, me epistolh poy exei katateqei sth Boylh, opws gnwrizete. Ayto lew. Exei na krycei kati to PASOK; Den antilambanomai giati den to leei.

TSIODRAS: Qa epanalambanate ayto poy eipwqhke sthn prwth synenteyjh Typoy poy doqhke apo esas, apo ton k. Boylgarakh kai ton k. Papalhgoyra, toys xarakthrismoys gia ton k. Korwnia kai gia toys xeirismoys poy ekane; Toys xarakthrismoys poy eginan apo ton k. Boylgarakh oti htan ypeyqynh h stash toy k.t.l.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora ton k. Boylgarakh, exei apanthsei pleistakis kai malista h teleytaia fora htan proxqes sthn Epitroph Qesmwn kai Diafaneias ths Boylhs. Se o,ti afora emena, epishs sas kalw na diabasete gia to poses fores me rwthsate -kai se ayth thn aiqoysa kai sth diplanh- gi` aytoys toys xarakthrismoys. Exw asxolhqei me to qema, exw apanthsei.

SIDERHS: Giati na mhn qewrhsoyme oti aytes oi ypocies gia to PASOK einai ena alma pros ta empros gia na fygei h kybernhsh apo th dyskolh katastash sthn opoia exei breqei kai giati emena moy qymizoyn tis analoges mikropolitikes staseis toy PASOK apenanti sas, otan sas kathgoroyse pws yponomeyei thn eqnikh politikh stis Bryjelles gia na mhn mpei h Ellada sthn ONE. Tis idies kataggelies ekane kai to PASOK tote gia esas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn polles poiotikes diafores. Kat` arxas, egw eqesa erwthmata, legontas oti sto parelqon exoyme peristatika, ta opoia den odhgoyn sto symperasma oti bohqhse to PASOK thn eqnikh prospaqeia. Zhtame apo ton arxhgo toy PASOK na mas apanthsei ean eginan ayta ta ranteboy, ean eginan me th mesolabhsh toy, poio skopo exoyn kai an to PASOK exei kryfh atzenta stis Bryjelles. Se o,ti afora ta ypoloipa sxolia, einai dika sas. Den prokeitai na asxolhqw me ayta.

BLAXOS: Apodeiknyetai kai apokalyptetai dystyxws apo alloys paragontes kai oxi apo thn ypeyqynh kybernhsh oti o k. Korwnias gnwrize, toylaxiston epi eji hmeres, to qema twn ypoklopwn. Ara, epi eji hmeres, xwris na enhmerwsei kanenan, mporoyse na diaxeiristei ayto to qema. Kai enhmerwse thn kybernhsh, afoy egine h aytoktonia toy megalostelexoys ths VODAFONE. To gegonos oti eji hmeres o k. Korwnias diaxeirizotan to qema twn ypoklopwn, problhmatizei thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H dhlwsh poy exw kanei oti h Dikaiosynh asxoleitai me thn ypoqesh, opws oloi gnwrizoyme, kai h Dikaiosynh qa kalesei oloys toys martyres poy ekeinh krinei kai h Dikaiosynh qa labei tis apofaseis poy ekeinh krinei, kalyptei kai to erwthma sas. Den qa dikasw kai den qa katadikasw kanenan. Den einai dikh moy doyleia. Lew oti h Dikaiosynh qa kanei aperispasta to ergo ths giati, opws eidate, to PASOK prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei perispasmoys me diafora tertipia, poy den gnwrizw ti ejyphretoyn. En pash periptwsei, elpizw oti qa mas apanthsei o ekproswpos toy PASOK, an oxi o arxhgos toy. H Dikaiosynh exei kaqe dikaiwma na kanei th doyleia ths, opws ekeinh nomizei.

BLAXOS: Exete texnika stoixeia basei twn opoiwn apokleietai to endexomeno na htan ypo parakoloyqhsh kai to thlefwno toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy h allwn arxhgwn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ola ta stoixeia ta opoia exoyme dwsei sth dhmosiothta -kai den yparxoyn alla- deixnoyn poioi htan ekeinoi poy epesan qymata parakoloyqhshs.

BLAXOS: Ta phrate apo th Vodafone ta stoixeia ayta. Den ta elegjate.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Moy kanate thn idia erwthsh kai th Deytera, an qymamai kala, ektos an moy thn kanate thn Paraskeyh. Pantws moy kanate eseis thn idia erwthsh. Epanalambanw oti ola ta stoixeia poy exoyme sta xeria mas einai ayta ta opoia dwsame sth dhmosiothta kai deixnoyn poia proswpa epesan qymata parakoloyqhshs. Epesan qymata parakoloyqhshs polla proswpa apo ton xwro ths kybernhshs, me prwton ap` oloys ton Prwqypoyrgo, ena proswpo apo ton xwro ths antipoliteyshs kai ola ta ypoloipa ta opoia exoyn anakoinwqei.

BLAXOS: Afoy ta phrate apo th Vodafone einai ajiopista ayta ta stoixeia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Me exete janarwthsei to idio qema. Sas lew, loipon, oti h ypoqesh ayth elegxetai apo th Dikaiosynh, den elegxetai apo thn kybernhsh. Eimai bebaios oti h Dikaiosynh qa dwsei apanthseis sta erwthmata.

BLAXOS: Qelw na pw an h lista einai ajiopisth.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw logo na asxolhqw egw, krinontas thn ajiopistia h mh mias listas. Egw sas lew poia einai ta stoixeia poy exoyme. Kai lew epishs oti h Dikaiosynh h opoia exei th syntagmatikh nomimothta - nomimopoihsh, ereynwntas thn ypoqesh qa mas dwsei kapoia stigmh ta symperasmata ths.

BLAXOS: Ma, pws h nomimh kybernhsh h opoia exei orkistei sto na diafylattei th nomimothta kai na ejasfalizei asfaleia stoys polites, den mporei na eggyhqei h den mporei na pei an h lista ayth einai egkyrh h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete mia dikh sas ermhneia gia toys qesmoys kai th leitoyrgia toys. Qa to sebastw. Alla qa moy epitrecete na sebastw, prwta ap` ola, thn ermhneia poy dinoyn oi exontes thn eyqynh na thrhsoyn toys qesmoys, thn ermhneia poy dinoyn oloi oi polites, poy einai diaforetikh apo th dikh sas, se mia dhmokratika eynomoymenh Politeia.

BLAXOS: Etsi ki alliws to na parakoloyqeitai to thlefwno toy Prwqypoyrgoy den einai kai toso dhmokratiko qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai sigoyra ena qema to opoio jefeygei apo toys kanones ths Dhmokratias. Kai mia dhmokratikh kybernhsh opws h Nea Dhmokratia ekane ayto to opoio eprepe na kanei.

BLAXOS: Kai kapoia dhmokratikh kybernhsh parapempei to qema sth Dikaiosynh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ekane ayto to opoio eprepe na kanei.

BLAXOS: Oxi, den to ekane.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanete megalo laqos. Kai ftasame sto shmeio@

BLAXOS: Oxi den to ekane kyrie Ekproswpe.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Orismenoi -kai dystyxws mesa sth Boylh- na prospaqoyn na kathgorhsoyn aytoys oi opoioi htan qymata ypoklophs, me dikoys toys logoys kai dikoys toys tropoys prospaqwntas na wfelhqoyn opoia politika ofelh. Lypamai gia logariasmo toys. Kai lypamai giati pragmatika, otan exoyme stelexh toy PASOK poy epitiqentai sth Dikaiosynh me skaio kai xydaio tropo, oydeis ejanistatai se ayton ton topo. Elaxistoi ejanistantai. Enw antistoixa otan exoyme stelexos ths Neas Dhmokratias poy ekane proswpikh kritikh -kai kakws thn ekane, to exw pei kai alles fores- egine prwto qema stis thleoraseis kai tis efhmerides epi polles hmeres. Den enoxlei th dhmokratikh eyaisqhsia sas oti stelexh toy PASOK kai dh ena stelexos to opoio qa eishghqei ayrio thn allagh toy Syntagmatos; Qa eishghqei dhladh, th diakrish kai to sebasmo twn ejoysiwn. Erxetai kai kathgorei eyqews, proswpika leitoyrgoys ths Dikaiosynhs. Den einai ayto qema;

BLAXOS: Terastio. Symfwnw mazi sas, alla qa hqela na prosqesw kai kati. Qa sas ebgaza to kapelo kyrie Ekproswpe kai se oloklhrh thn kybernhsh an sto epomeno tetarto apo th stigmh poy enhmerwqhkate apo ton k. Korwnia oti ginontai ypoklopes mesa apo to systhma ths Vodafone, eixate paei, eixate dei kai eixate elegjei, monoi sas, ennow mesw twn mhxanismwn, to systhma ayto ths Vodafone kai na exete akribws thn egkyrothta twn plhroforiwn poy sas dinei h Vodafone kai tis opoies yioqeteite kai tis paroysiazete me th fwnh sas kai thn egkyrothta enos politikoy andros.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Moy qesate pali to idio qema peri mhxanismwn kai sas eipa oti se mia dhmokratika eynomoymenh Politeia, mia kybernhsh poy sebetai th Dhmokratia ofeilei na kineitai sto qesmiko plaisio kai oxi me alloys mhxanismoys, ektos qesmikoy plaisioy.

KAKALHS: An katalaba kala, h momfh poy prosaptete sto PASOK einai oti peripoy synwmotei me ajiwmatoyxoys ths Komision gia na yponomeysei thn kybernhtikh politikh kai to eqniko symferon. Anarwtiemai omws an yparxei periqwrio gia mia tetoia yponomeysh apo th stigmh poy h kybernhsh brisketai se anoixth grammh me tis Bryjeles kai oloys toys ajiwmatoyxoys profanws, den yparxei kanena anoixto qema kai den diaforopoieitai poyqena se sxesh me thn politikh twn Bryjelwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Bgalate mia seira symperasmatwn ta opoia den qa sxoliasw. O,ti eixa na pw gia thn ypoqesh to exw pei, dikhn erwthmatwn apeyqynomenwn pros ton arxhgo toy PASOK.

KAKALHS: Xwris na apantate; Ayto shmainei oti mallon ginetai olh ayth h istoria gia na proklhqoyn entypwseis kai oxi epi ths oysias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai poly oysiastiko qema ean ena apo ta dyo megala kommata h ena opoiodhpote komma kineitai me ton tropo poy kineitai kai den exei enhmerwsei toys Ellhnes polites.

PAPAGIANNHS: Exei ftasei sto Majimoy h plhroforia oti kykloforei se orismena dhmosiografika grafeia mia fwtografia me ton Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs k. Boylgarakh na paizei tenis me ton geniko dieyqynth ths Vodafone ton k. Korwnia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas parakalesw oi erwthseis poy ypoballontai s` ayth thn aiqoysa na einai sobaroteroy epipedoy. Gia na mh dhmioyrgeitai oloklhrh parafilologia, sas lew oti den exei ftasei kamia tetoia fwtografia.

PAPAGIANNHS: To sxolio peri epipedoy den katalaba kyrie Ypoyrge.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia na to katalabete, afoy den to katalabate: Yphrje h apolyta safhs, tekmhriwmenh dhlwsh toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs xqes, gia ola ta qemata. Parakalw poly na diabasete to prwto kommati apo tis dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs gia na katanohsete ti einai ayto to opoio perigrafei.

TSIODRAS: Symfwna me dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas ``TO PONTIKI'' shmera, yphrje apagwgh Ellhna epixeirhmatia apo tis boylgarikes arxes se synergasia me tis amerikanikes, toylaxiston symfwna me tis kataggelies toy kai xreiasthke parembash twn ellhnikwn arxwn prokeimenoy na epistrecei sthn Ellada. An ontws yphrje tetoia parembash kai an oi ellhnikes arxes gnwrizoyn to peristatiko kai to epibebaiwnoyn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei hdh kanei dhlwsh o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ejw apo to Proedriko Megaro prin apo peripoy tria tetarta. Den qa pw tipota perissotero apo ayta poy eipe o k. Molybiaths.

MPOTSARAKOS: Gia na katalaboyme kalytera, me bash thn kataggelia poy kanate shmera kai ta dyo peristatika poy anaferate gia to parelqon gia stelexh toy PASOK, kathgoreite dhladh ton Giwrgo Papandreoy oti eyqynetai gia prajeis stelexwn poy yponomeyoyn to eqniko symferon; Gia prajeis poy den einai yper toy eqnikoys symferontos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den antilambanomai giati den katalabate poly kala ayto poy eipa apo thn arxh kai qelete na to katalabete kalytera. Ypebala sygkekrimena erwthmata sto PASOK kai ton arxhgo toy. Ean o arxhgos toy PASOK qelhsei na apanthsei eite o idios, eite dia toy ekproswpoy toy, perimenoyme na ton akoysoyme me pollh xara. Ypoballontas ta erwthmata, parallhlws sas ypenqymisa orismenes parembaseis stelexwn toy PASOK sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Atyxeis parembaseis sthn kalyterh periptwsh gia na mhn xrhsimopoihsw barytero oro.

MPALHS: Me kapoio tropo syndeete aytes tis synanthseis me th synedriash toy EKOFIN se treis hmeres h me thn ekqesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs gia thn Ellada, gia thn poreia twn dhmosionomikwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai alhqeia oti se dyo hmeres yparxei ayth h synedriash toy EKOFIN.

MPALHS: To syndeei ayto h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eqesa orismena erwthmata.

SIDERHS: Kai an den sas apanthsei qewrwntas oti ta erwthmata ayta den exoyn antikeimeno apanthsews, qa qewrhsete oti einai ypopth h siwph;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean den mas apanthsei h an den apanthsei stoys Ellhnes polites, oloi exete th dynatothta na to krinete. Bebaiws qa krinoyme ki emeis. Opws den apanthse o k. Papandreoy epi treis hmeres twra stis ybreis enantion ths Dikaiosynhs kai leitoyrgwn ths apo prwtoklasata stelexh toy. Ybreis poy ejepemfqhsan en pollois enwpion toy. Den gnwrizw an den katalabe h ekane pws den katalabe. Se kaqe periptwsh omws, htan barytates ybreis kai den htan ena frastiko laqos. Dioti epanelhfqh afoy teleiwse h synedriash. Ta stelexh ayta ekanan dhlwseis stis kameres kai den htan ena deytero frastiko laqos, dioti epanelhfqh. Molis shmera to prwi ena apo ta dyo stelexh janaekane dhlwseis. Edw, loipon, den exoyme na kanoyme me ena olisqhma ths glwssas. Exoyme na kanoyme me syneidhth prospaqeia apajiwshs ths Dikaiosynhs kai leitoyrgwn ths.

SIDERHS: Allo rwthsa. An qewrhsei oti den xrizoyn apanthsews aytes oi kathgories, giati prokeitai peri kathgoriwn@(den akoygetai).

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sth Dhmokratia exei kapoios dikaiwma kai sthn omilia kai sth siwph.

SIDERHS: Qa toy katalogisete kati;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Alla h krish toy kaqenos mas kai gia to ti leei o kaqenas kai gia to pws kai pote siwpa o kaqenas, einai krish polith, eynomoymenhs Politeias kai krish poy nomizw oti mporei na odhghsei se symperasmata.

BLAXOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mhpws exete thn eygenh kalosynh na mas apokalycete kai na mas metaferete tis ektimhseis toy k. Karamanlh gia to qema twn ypoklopwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti sxolio ths kybernhshs htan na kanw gia to qema twn ypoklopwn, to exw kanei apo thn perasmenh Pempth sthn eishghtikh moy topoqethsh. Giati sas qymizw, ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, ekproswpw thn kybernhsh kai ton Prwqypoyrgo.

BLAXOS: Den yparxei kapoio allo sxolio toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia thn ejelijh ayth;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw dexqeite ws sxolio ths kybernhshs, afoy anegnwsqh apo emena se ekeinh th synenteyjh, opws qymaste, to sxolio poy egine gia thn ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn.

BLAXOS: Jerete giati to lew ayto;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

BLAXOS: Giati yparxoyn plhrofories poy lene oti o k. Karamanlhs einai ejorgismenos epeidh oi armodioi Ypoyrgoi, den jerw poioi einai aytoi, den ton enhmerwsan swsta. Ton enhmerwsan basei plhroforiwn poy eixan mono apo ton k. Korwnia kai den toy edwsan tis pragmatikes diastaseis toy qematos opws ayto apokalyptetai mera me th mera.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw akoysei aytes tis fhmes, giati plhrofories den qa tis xarakthriza. Se kaqe periptwsh, epanalambanw oti to sxolio poy egine ekeinh thn hmera ekfrazei thn kybernhsh, ara kai ton Prwqypoyrgo.

BLAXOS: Den einai ejorgismenos o k. Karamanlhs me thn plhroforhsh apo Ypoyrgoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw pei polles fores s` ayth thn aiqoysa na mh me rwtate gia ta synaisqhmata toy Prwqypoyrgoy an einai ``ejorgismenos'' h ``eyxaristhmenos'' h ``xaroymenos''. Ean diabasete to eishghtiko moy sxolio qa katalabete poly kala poia einai h qesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw kyrie Ypoyrge, mhpws fqasate s` ayto to shmeio shmera, logw paraleicewn ths kybernhshs sto sygkekrimeno qema twn ypoklopwn h ths kataskopeias, an qelete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se poio shmeio, ennoeite, oti efqasa shmera;

PAPADOPOYLOS: S` ayto to qorybo poy apasxolei thn koinh gnwmh, s` aytes tis apokalyceis poy ginontai, s` ayto to ``sooy'' poy kanate oi treis ypoyrgoi proxqes -den th lew ypotimhtika th lejh ``sooy''- ola ayta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ejartatai. An anaferosaste se sooy poy kanei h thleorash to Sabbato to brady gia na diaskedasei toys thleqeates, bebaiws den einai ypotimhtiko. An omws anafereste se mia synenteyjh Typoy poy doqhke gia na plhroforhqoyn oi Ellhnes polites ena apo ta shmantikotera qemata -pisteyw- twn teleytaiwn etwn, mallon einai ypotimhtiko.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Malista. Mhpws fqasate loipon s` ayto to shmeio logw paraleicewn ths kybernhshs sas sto sygkekrimeno qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An ennoeite thn hmera ths synenteyjhs Typoy@

PAPADOPOYLOS: Oxi, oxi. Gia to qema twn ypoklopwn ennow.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to qema twn ypoklopwn: An loipon ennoeite thn enhmerwsh, qelw na sas qymisw oti to yp` ariqmon ena stoixeio ths politikhs mas einai h ypeyqynh enhmerwsh toy Ellhna polith. To eipa ekeinh thn hmera. O logos, de, poy egine ekeinh th sygkekrimenh hmera kai oxi allh kai ayto ejhghqhke: Dioti teleiwse h prokatarktikh ejetash.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Oxi h prolhptikh frontida gia na prostateysete ta dikaiwmata twn politwn, ths kybernhshs kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy; Ekei entopizw thn kybernhtikh paraleich. Exete ena ayjhmeno endiaferon na enhmerwsete ton kosmo gia ena gegonos poy@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apo tis prwtes kiolas wres poy egine gnwsto to qema sthn kybernhsh, odhghqhke sth Dikaiosynh. Ayto apanta sta peri ``prolhptikhs frontidas'' poy eipate.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Oxi, den to estiazw ekei. To qema twn ypoklopwn, qa moy epitrecete na sas pw, einai palio. Ws palaioteros, na sas qymisw ton Tompra, na sas qymisw ton Tzhma, ton Gryllakh, qa sas qymisw ton Mayrikh, qa sas qymisw to systhma poy sthqhke stoys Olympiakoys Agwnes apo to prohgoymeno kaqestws, thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh, kai eseis eixate ypoxrewsh efoson analabate thn ejoysia na elegjete ayto to systhma twn synexwn ypoklopwn. Ekei estiazw to qema ths kybernhtikhs paraleichs. Kai afhnete ena xroniko diasthma na leitoyrgei ayto to parakratos, ayto to systhma kai erxeste meta kai deixnete eyaisqhsia sto na mas enhmerwsete pws leitoyrgoyse to parakratos. Den yparxei paraleich kybernhtikh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat` arxas, den jeroyme tipote perissotero apo ayta poy eipame ekeinh thn hmera. Dhladh, ean phgaine palaiotera h ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn kai posoys mhnes h xronia palaiotera. Ekeina ta shmeia poy entopisthkan anakoinwqhkan. Den mporw na to gnwrizw kai fantazomai kai to PASOK den einai se qesh na mas pei me bebaiothta ean isxye h den isxye kati tetoio sto parelqon.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Den eixan ypogracei symbaseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Lew pali oti den mporw na gnwrizw kati perissotero apo ayto to opoio dwsame sth dhmosiothta. Kai o,ti dwsame sth dhmosiothta htan o,ti gnwrizame. Twra, h krish peri paraleicewn klp@

PAPADOPOYLOS: Oxi den einai krish. Erwthsh einai. Egw den kanw kriseis, erwtw. Dioti exete ayjhmenh eyaisqhsia sthn enhmerwsh alla den blepw -ektos an einai laqos h diapistwsh poy kanw- thn idia ayjhmenh eyqynh kai frontida sto na prolabete, na jhlwsete ayto to mhxanismo. Dyo xronia eiste sthn ejoysia, giati den to kanate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw oti h ypoqesh odhghqhke sth Dikaiosynh. Den gnwrizw ean exete kapoia stoixeia ta opoia odhgoyn se sygkekrimeno mhxanismo poy na ekane tis parakoloyqhseis. Mporei o kaqenas na bgalei symperasmata kai bgainoyn polla symperasmata ayth thn periodo, ap` oti blepw. Ginontai polles analyseis, polles skeceis, polles eikasies. Egw apo th qesh poy eimai -opws katalabainete- den qa mpw h den moy epitrepetai na mpw se ayth thn ypoqesh.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ma, me sygxwreite poly, treis ypoyrgoi mas enhmerwsan proxqes oti yparxei aytos o mhxanismos, o opoios jhlwqhke en pash periptwsei, toylaxiston apo pleyras hlektronikhs morfhs. Den jerw apo pleyras anqrwpinhs. Giati to amfisbhteite;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to ``anqrwpinhs morfhs'' poy lete, edw apokalyfqhke kai apedeixqh oti eprokeito gia mia idiwtikh etaireia. Den prokeitai gia kratiko mhxanismo.

BLAXOS: Sto ypomnhma toy k. Korwnia, pros ton Eisaggelea, pros th Dikaiosynh, poy apokalyptei shmera to ``PONTIKI'', katalhgei legontas pws oti ekane, to ekane me aisqhma eyqynhs, ejyphretwntas ta symferonta ths xwras, twn politwn kai ths Vodafone. Apo pote ta symferonta ths Vodafone kai ths Elladas taytizontai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw. Rwthste ton k. Korwnia. Ean rwtate ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo, fysika ta symferonta ths xwras einai panw apo ta symferonta opoioydhpote polith, opoiasdhpote etaireias kai toy opoioydhpote polith se opoiadhpote qesh kai na brisketai.

BLAXOS: Den sas rwtaw tyxaia. Sas rwtaw giati eseis mazi me dyo alloys ypoyrgoys, eixate yioqethsei ta osa sas eipe o k. Korwnias, ta opoia bghkate kai ta anakoinwsate. Ara; Eixate etsi kai alliws@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanoyme to idio kai to idio. Egw qa eimai edw, osh wra qelete, na epanalabete oses erwthseis qelete.

BLAXOS: Bebaiws. Einai poly shmantiko qema, gi` ayto kai to epanalambanw. To qewrw para poly shmantiko qema.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw: Egine mia kataggelia. Ayth thn kataggelia h kybernhsh th xeiristhke me poly sobaro kai qesmiko tropo. Phge sth Dikaiosynh kai thn ereyna kai o,ti akoloyqhse ta gnwrizete. Qa isxye ayto poy lete -gia na kanoyme dialogo afoy to qelete- ean kaname ayto poy legate eseis prohgoymenws, ``giati den kanate monoi sas me toys mhxanismoys sas ereyna''. E, loipon, den isxyei ayto. Qesmika leitoyrghsame, teleia kai payla.

MPOTSARAKOS: Dyo erwthseis. Prwton, ean yparxei apo yphresia ths E.E. kapoia oxlhsh, kapoia parembash, ws to pros to giati oi entetalmenes arxes den eixan diapistwsei egkaira thn parabiash toy thlepikoinwniakoy aporrhtoy, ean yparxei kapoia epafh ths kybernhshs me thn E.E. gi` ayto to qema. Kai deyteron. Yparxei shmera mia ereyna, poy dhmosiopoihqhke apo to ``SKAI'', to barometro ths V-PRC kai ena eyrhmata leei oti oktw stoys deka polites pisteyoyn oti oi parakoloyqhseis synexizontai kai shmera. Ayto den sas problhmatizei, oson afora thn apoch poy exei h koinh gnwmh gia tis parakoloyqhseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora to prwto erwthma, den exw kati ypoch moy. Se o,ti afora to deytero, bebaiws kai me problhmatizei, opws problhmatizei kaqe Ellhna polith. Antilambanomai to aisqhma to opoio diakatexei polloys apo toys sympolites mas shmera. H prospaqeia na apokatastaqei ayto to aisqhma, einai mia dyskolh prospaqeia. Einai mia prospaqeia poy pernaei mesa apo tis qesmikes ryqmiseis poy tyxon qa xreiastoyn. Mia prospaqeia poy pernaei mesa apo th dynatothta kaqe kybernhshs na mporei na epitelei to rolo ths. Mesa apo th dynatothta kaqe polith na leitoyrgei eleyqera, sto plaisio ths Dhmokratias mas. Kai ayto den einai mia prospaqeia poy ginetai apo th mia mera sthn allh h poy thn kataferame mia fora kai teleiwse. Eipa polles fores s` ayth thn aiqoysa oti nomoi enantion toy egklhmatos yparxoyn apo arxaiotatwn xronwn. Pantote yphrxan kai foboymai dystyxws oti qa yparxoyn egklhmata stis koinwnies poy zoyme. Den shmainei oti teleiwnei ayth h prospaqeia. H kybernhsh me ton tropo ths, me th leitoyrgia ths, me thn apofasistikothta ths, ayto poy qelei epipleon na katadeijei einai oti den anexetai tetoia fainomena kai qa prospaqhsei na ta patajei se opoio xwro kai an anaferontai.

KYRITSHS: Askhsate kritikh ston k. Pagkalo kai se alla stelexh toy PASOK oti epitiqentai sth Dikaiosynh. Wstoso, den pisteyete oti qa mporoyse kaneis, opoiosdhpote poliths, eyloga na anarwthqei pws ginetai gia mia tetoia ypoqesh parakoloyqhsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy klp, na askeitai diwjh se baqmo plhmmelhmatos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean qelete, eseis ws dhmosiografos, na kanete opoiadhpote krish, kante thn. Egw lew ena poly aplo pragma: Eixame to ypokritiko PASOK prin apo 20-25 hmeres na kathgorei, na kataggellei, na fwnaskei pantoy, sta ``thleparaqyra'', sth Boylh h opoydhpote alloy, ton tote yfypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs, gia enan xarakthrismo toy @ton opoio xarakthrismo den yioqethse pote h kybernhsh- kai exoyme shmera to PASOK, liges ebdomades meta, na kanei xarakthrismoys antistoixoys h kai baryteroys gia leitoyrgoys ths Dikaiosynhs kai na mh symbainei tipote. Ayth thn anantistoixeia kai thn anakoloyqia einai poy hqela na anadeijw, epishmainontas edw kai treis hmeres, tis dhlwseis poy ekane kai o proanaferqeis prwhn ypoyrgos toy PASOK kai allos prwhn ypoyrgos toy PASOK.

KYRITSHS: Nai, alla h erwthsh moy den htan ayth. H erwthsh moy htan an sas fainetai logiko@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa sthn arxh sthn erwthsh sas. Mporeite na kanete opoia krish qelete. Ean moy zhtate na kanw krish gia th leitoyrgia ths Dikaiosynhs, den qa thn kanw.

PAPAGIANNHS: Einai pasifanes kyrie Ekproswpe, oti sthn ypoqesh twn ypoklopwn, parabiasthkan basika arqra toy Syntagmatos, opws to arqro 19, alla kai nomoi peri aporrhtoy twn thlepikoinwniwn. Qelw na sas rwthsw kati jekaqaro: Giati h kybernhsh den bazei ``loyketo'' sth sygkekrimenh etaireia kinhths thlefwnias, dedomenoy oti se alles periptwseis, diaforetikes bebaiws, opws asfalistikwn etaireiwn h alles paromoies periptwseis, ta ``loyketa'' se aytes tis periptwseis einai para poly eykola;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na eiste bebaios oti opoiosdhpote parabiazei to nomo, exei kai tis synepeies toy.

TSIODRAS: Se sxesh me to gegonos oti o k. Korwnias, gnwrize eji hmeres prin, eipate oti to qema brisketai sth Dikaiosynh. Qelw na jerw to ejhs: H kybernhsh den exei problhmatistei, giati eji hmeres meta enhmerwse o k. Korwnias to Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh otan enhmerwqhke esteile to qema ston Eisaggelea. Ayto ofeile na kanei kai ayto ekane. Oi problhmatismoi mporei na anhkoyn ston kaqena mas. O kaqenas mporei na ypobalei erwthmata ston eayto toy h dhmosiws. H kybernhsh me ypeyqyno kai qesmiko tropo leitoyrghse. H Dikaiosynh exei anoixth thn ereyna ths. Exoyme empistosynh sth Dikaiosynh kai stis apofaseis poy qa labei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs, gia deyterh fora, ekane kapoies dhlwseis gia to Xrhmatisthrio kai sxedon ekroyse pali ton kwdwna toy kindynoy na prosejoyn. Einai deyterh fora poy ginetai ayto. Mhpws jerei kati; Yparxoyn metoxes ``foyskes'', yparxei kapoio problhma mesa sto Xrhmatisthrio; Giati den to leei o k. Alogoskoyfhs, na teleiwnoyme me ayto to qema, na mhn pesoyn pali qymata anqrwpoi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs dhlwse -ontws gia deyterh fora- gia to Xrhmatisthrio peripoy ayto to opoio eipate. H ennoia twn dhlwsewn toy, opws eixa pei kai thn prwth fora, einai oti den prepei na epanalhfqoyn dhlwseis-parembaseis, se o,ti afora th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, oi opoies na odhghsoyn se palaioteres qliberes epoxes kai gia to Xrhmatisthrio kai gia toys Ellhnes polites.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei kati omws poy to kanei ayto; Exei entopistei tipote; Kykloforoyn pali ``foyskes'' kai ``papagalakia'' kai tetoia mesa sto Xrhmatisthrio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O ypeyqynos ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, ekane ayth th dhlwsh, gia to logo poy sas eipa.

IWANNOY: Qewreite oti plhttetai proswpika h eikona toy Prwqypoyrgoy; H idia dhmoskophsh poy anefere prohgoymenws o synadelfos deixnei meiwmenh th dhmofilia toy k. Karamanlh, sygkritika me th dhmofilia toy k. Papandreoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eimai bebaios, oti oi Ellhnes polites krinontas ton tropo poy leitoyrghse h kybernhsh, tis entoles poy edwse o Prwqypoyrgos gia plhrh dialeykansh ths ypoqeshs, afoy ayth odhghqei-opws kai egine- sth Dikaiosynh kai sto syntomo mellon kai istorika argotera, qa dikaiwsoyn apolytws ayth thn epilogh.

BLAXOS: Sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti sto ypomnhma toy o k. Korwnias, poy einai analytikotato, den anaferei kaqoloy thn aytoktonia toy stelexoys ths Vodafone;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se o,ti afora toys problhmatismoys, eteqh ena erwthma prohgoymenws apo ton k. Tsiodra. Milhsa gia problhmatismoys, eipa oti qa yparxoyn problhmatismoi apo oloys. Apo toys symmetexontes sth diadikasia ths kaqhmerinhs enhmerwshs -kai einai sebastoi oi problhmatismoi- kai apo polloys alloys. Wstoso h Dikaiosynh exei analabei ayth thn ypoqesh kai h Dikaiosynh qa dwsei apanthseis kai se aytoys toys problhmatismoys. Eimai bebaios gi` ayto.

MPOTSARAKOS: Aytoys toys problhmatismoys omws, toys eixe kai h kybernhsh, ws pros thn apenergopoihsh toy logismikoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qewrw oti hdh exw apanthsei.

MPOTSARAKOS: Pws krinete to ergo ths k. Mpakogiannh sto Dhmo Aqhnaiwn kai ti qa ths eyxosastan apo edw kai sto ejhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti na eyxhqw sthn k. Mpakogiannh ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos; O,ti eyxomai se kaqe anqrwpo. Oson afora to prwto skelos toy erwthmatos sas, qa pw oti h apotimhsh poy ginetai apo thn k. Mpakogiannh -kai ayto ofeilw na to pw giati kapoioi espeysan na ths epiteqoyn- kai einai ethsia apotimhsh gia to ergo ths sto Dhmo ths Aqhnas, einai mia apotimhsh poy dikaiwnei tis epiloges twn Aqhnaiwn politwn.

BLAXOS: Pantws mh bgeite to meshmeri kai peite oti den sas rwthsame gia ton anasxhmatismo kai gi` ayto den mas to eipate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kalo meshmeri.

Sas eyxaristw.

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