Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-11-14

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Aqhna, 14 Noembrioy 2005

APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada

Synedriazei, ayrio stis 11.00, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me qema thn Olympiakh Aeroporia. To apogeyma, qa synedriasei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph me to idio qema. Qa akoloyqhsoyn dhlwseis gia to ti mellei genesqai me thn etairia.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KAKALHS: Sthn ayrianh synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs qa syzhthqei kai to nomosxedio gia tis DEKO;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h Toyrkia kai apo epishmo pleon bhma stis Bryjelles diakhryttei oti den prokeitai na energopoihsei to Prwtokollo ths Agkyras poy afora thn Telwneiakh Enwsh me tis 10 nees xwres, symperilambanomenhs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, akoma kai oti den exei stoxo na anagnwrisei thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia an prwta den arqei to oikonomiko empargko kata twn Toyrkokypriwn. To erwthma poy tiqetai, eyloga, einai to ejhs: H Eyrwpaikh Enwsh diaqetei ekeinoys toys mhxanismoys wste na epiballei kyrwseis sthn @Agkyra, efoson den threi toys oroys poy ths exoyn epiblhqei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, yparxei mhxanismos parakoloyqhshs twn kinhsewn kai ths proodoy ths Toyrkias. H Toyrkia den exei allo dromo, efoson qelei na ginei melos ths E.E., para na akoloyqhsei ta symfwnhqenta.

SARANTAKOS: H kybernhsh apodokimazei ta osa eipe prosfata o Mhtropoliths Ambrosios gia ton prwhn Prwqypoyrgo k. Kwsta Shmith;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw janarwthqei gia ayto to qema. Qa epanalabw oti den symfwnw me xarakthrismoys opws aytoi poy akoysthkan, apo opoiadhpote pleyra gia ton opoiondhpote prwhn Prwqypoyrgo.

SARANTAKOS: O Mhtropoliths eipe shmera, epishs, oti qa prepei h kybernhsh na anoijei to qema twn taytothtwn. Ep@ aytoy exete kapoio sxolio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, exoyme milhsei poly gi@ ayto to qema.

SIDERHS: Ontws, htan swsth h qesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti oi polloi anasxhmatismoi einai antiparagwgikoi. Mas to eixe deijei h epoxh toy Andrea poy toys allaze kaqe 8mhno kai epaize me toys ypoyrgoys toy. Omws, o Prwqypoyrgos qewrei oti h paroysa kybernhsh einai paragwgikh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H paroysa kybernhsh einai paragwgikh. Allwste kapoios poy parakoloyqei prosektika ta bhmata ths, tis apofaseis, ta nomoqethmata, tis prwtoboylies ths mporei na to diapistwsei.

BLAXOS: Giati o Prwqypoyrgos exei dwsei entolh stoys ypoyrgoys toy na teleiwsoyn to nomoqetiko toys ergo mexri to telos toy xronoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw na yparxei kapoia tetoia entolh.

BLAXOS: Tetoia entolh eipate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa oti den gnwrizw na yparxei kapoia tetoia entolh. Yparxei sygkekrimenh diadikasia prokeimenoy na erqoyn sth Boylh oi nomoi ekeinoi oi opoioi qa allajoyn to topio, oi nomoi twn megalwn metarryqmisewn. Opws gnwrizete, hdh exei ginei mia poly megalh prospaqeia h opoia apodidei kai oikonomika. Alla, entolh na oloklhrwqei to nomoqetiko ergo ews to telos Dekembrioy, den yparxei.

BLAXOS: Enhmerwqhkate gia th dhlwsh toy k. Nikolopoyloy, telika, sthn thleorash ths Patras;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Enhmerwqhka gia th dhlwsh toy ekeinh thn hmera. Epishs enhmerwqhka kai gia th dhlwsh ths epomenhs hmeras, me thn opoia kleinei to qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh eipate oti ayrio h Kybernhtikh Epitroph qa exei ws antikeimeno to qema ths Olympiakhs, h erwthsh moy einai fysiologikh meta apo tis antidraseis poy eixe o k. Liaphs. Enhmerwqhke telika apo ton armodio ypoyrgo ton k. Alogoskoyfh, o k. Liaphs eidika me to ti mellei genesqai gia thn Olympiakh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete mperdecei ta qemata.

PALAIOLOGOY: Ennoeite, ti;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ennow oti anafereste se alla zhthmata apo ayta ta opoia syzhtame.

SIDERHS: Epeidh den brhkate ashmika, giati ta eixan poylhsei oi prohgoymenoi, poylate kai spitia twra; Dhladh, qa poylhqei to Ypoyrgeio Emporioy, to ktirio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diabasa kai egw ena dhmosieyma. Qelw na sas pw oti den yparxei kamia sxetikh syzhthsh. To armodio Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn otan exei kati, qa to anakoinwsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti den yparxei qema me ton k. Nikolopoylo. Dhladh, symfwneite oti h kybernhsh einai ``lait'';

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa oti epanorqwse th dhlwsh toy. Den yparxei kanena zhthma peraiterw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai alloi epanorqwsan alla diagrafhkan.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas apanthsa.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa anakoinwsete ayrio oristikh lysh gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayrio, qa anakoinwqei gia to ti prepei na ginei apo edw kai pera. As perimenoyme ews ayrio.

SOYGLERHS: Anasxhmatismos den yparxei. Einai paragwgikh h kybernhsh. Allages se alloys tomeis qa exoyme;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite;

SOYGLERHS: Se alloys tomeis, DEKO@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayth th stigmh, den exw na anakoinwsw tipote.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epistrefontas apo thn Iapwnia o Prwqypoyrgos, ti metaferei ston ellhniko lao, oson afora toylaxiston tis oikonomikes kai emporikes synomilies poy eixe ekei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, anelysa, hdh apo thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, tis prwtoboylies poy eprepe na analhfqoyn se ayto to tajidi, opws kai egine. Peran ths sysfijhs twn kalwn sxesewn poy yparxoyn metajy Elladas kai Iapwnias, egine syzhthsh gia thn anaptyjh peraiterw emporikwn sxesewn kai eidika thn prowqhsh ellhnikwn proiontwn. Elpizoyme se qetika apotelesmata.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den sas enoxlei to gegonos oti to teleytaio diasthma ekproswpoi ths Ekklhsias parembainoyn syxna sta dhmosia pragmata kai epitiqentai polles fores kata akomco tropo enantion twn politikwn, opws parathrhqhke twra me ton Ambrosio, toso se baros toy k. Shmith, oso kai se baros toy k. Aqanasakh, alla kai toy Anqimoy se baros toy k. Alabanoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ennoeite, an me enoxlei to na exei kaneis to eleyqero na diatypwnei tis apoceis toy;

PALAIOLOGOS: Ekeino poy qelw na pw einai oti den einai dynaton enas ekproswpos ths Ekklhsias na qewrei oti o ekproswpos ths Politeias einai eite diktatoriskos, eite den exei dikaiwma na milaei kai anaferomai sto diaxwrismo kratoys-Ekklhsias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa, prohgoymenws.

BLAXOS: Akoysame ton Prwqypoyrgo na leei oti einai antiparagwgikh h syxnh allagh ypoyrgwn. Mhpws mporeite na mas peite poia einai h gnwmh toy k. Karamanlh gia to xrono twn eklogwn; An dhladh epanalambanete thn palaioterh dhlwsh toy k. Karamanlh oti mia kybernhsh prepei na ejantlei thn tetraetia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Thn epanalambanw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh to teleytaio diasthma exei akoystei para poly oti o k. Karamanlhs qa proxwrhsei se prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy na antistrecei to bary klima poy yparxei h telos pantwn na kanei kati oytws wste na analabei prwtoboylies se alla epipeda, den gnwrizw se poia. Yparxei kati sxetiko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den katalabainw thn erwthsh sas. Anaferete oti yparxei bary klima. Yparxoyn prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs se mia seira apo tomeis. Oi metarryqmiseis, hdh, apodidoyn. O k. Alogoskoyfhs, se ligh wra, qa dwsei synenteyjh Typoy gia ta oikonomika zhthmata kai gia ton Proypologismo. Oi metarryqmiseis exoyn apodwsei se ena megalo pososto, peripoy 2,5 monadwn -opws sas exw anaferei- kai h meiwsh toy elleimmatos ofeiletai se aytes. Ara, loipon, nomizw oti ta peri barews klimatos poy anaferete, mallon qa prepei na ta janaskefteite.

PALAIOLOGOS: Tote, gia poio logo den mporeite na epiballete thn politikh atzenta sto skhniko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ennoeite na epiballoyme kati sta MME;

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi sta MME.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai oyte stis skeceis mas, oyte stis epidiwjeis mas kati tetoio.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ennow oti sthn oysia den exete eseis thn prwtoboylia twn kinhsewn se diafora zhthmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizete oti den exei h kybernhsh thn prwtoboylia;

PALAIOLOGOS: Den gnwrizw. Eseis ti lete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egw apantw oti thn exei.

IWANNOY: Poy kata th gnwmh sas teleiwnoyn h stamatoyn ta oria ths proswpikhs apochs poy mporei na ekfrazei kaqe mhtropoliths kai poy jekina h parembash sta ths Politeias. Anaferomai, bebaiws, stoys xarakthrismoys, oi opoioi den einai kai toso poly kosmioi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H parembash sthn apoch, opws gnwrizete, orizetai apo ta syntagmatika dikaiwmata poy isxyoyn gia oloys toys Ellhnes polites. Apo ekei kai pera, an kapoios yperbainei ta eskammena, yparxoyn pali, sta plaisia toy Syntagmatos mas, nomoi, diatajeis, arxes k.o.k.

SIDERHS: Mesa sta syntagmatika dikaiwmata toy Anqimoy poy opws eipe o Pagkalos ekane ton troxonomo gia na mhn epitrecei ston Gewrgiadh na perasei sth Qessalonikh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den katalaba to syllogismo toy k. Pagkaloy, alla den einai h prwth fora.

SIDERHS: O k. Anqimos eixe apagoreysei ston Gewrgiadh@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mhn koyrazeste, den qa to katalabw oses fores ki an to epanalabete.

BLAXOS: O k. Arsenhs qa paijei kapoio rolo; Toy epifylassei kapoio rolo h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

SOYGLERHS: Ta gegonota toy Sabbatoy sth lewforo Alejandras syndeontai me ta gegonota ths Gallias; Gia thn kybernhsh ti yparxei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw milhsei gia ta epeisodia sth Gallia apo thn perasmenh ebdomada. Exoyme anaferqei kai se zhthmata qesmwn, opws o nomos poy o k. Paylopoylos eishghqhke kai chfisthke sth Boylh. Ginetai mia prospaqeia, gia prwth fora malista, na beltiwqoyn oi synqhkes ths zwhs twn metanastwn sthn Ellada. O k. Paylopoylos ejedwse kai mia anakoinwsh thn perasmenh Paraskeyh, enw ki egw sas eixa kanei dhlwsh ep` aytoy.

Qa moy epitrecete, me aformh ayth thn erwthsh, na epanalabw orismena mono shmeia ths: H kybernhsh Karamanlh, kalyptontas to megalo prohgoymeno keno se elaxisto xroniko diasthma, chfise to nomo 3386/2005, o opoios apotelei mia oloklhrwmenh metanasteytikh politikh. Kyrioi ajones ayths ths politikhs einai: Prwton, gnwrizoyme pleon poios metanasths erxetai sthn Ellada kai ti erxetai na kanei. Deyteron, o metanasths askei plhrws ola ta dikaiwmata toy. Anaptyssei eleyqera thn proswpikothta toy, einai asfalismenos kai asfalhs. Triton, aplopoioyntai oi diadikasies kai meiwnontai sto elaxisto oi kaqysterhseis se o,ti afora thn ekdosh adeias diamonhs me parallhlh apofygh twn kaqe eidoys mesazontwn. Epishs, gnwrizete poly kala oti oi sxetikes yphresies stegasthkan sto neo ktirio toy Royf, opoy me sygxronh mhxanografhsh lynontai polla problhmata poly grhgora. Kai tetarton, dhmioyrgeitai to kaqestws twn epi makron diamenontwn -milame gia mia pentaetia- poy apotelei mia poly shmantikh parembash. To kaqestws aytos synista kai ton proqalamo gia thn apokthsh ths ellhnikhs iqageneias, efoson bebaiws to epiqymoyn oi endiaferomenoi, oi opoioi apofasizoyn eleyqera gi` ayto, symfwna me tis diatajeis toy sygxronoy kwdika iqageneias poy chfise hdh h kybernhsh Karamanlh apo to 2004.

Se ayto to shmeio na shmeiwsoyme oti h xwra eixe na dei kwdika iqageneias apo to 1955. Sthn oysia toy erwthmatos sas, qa elega ``oxi, den syndeontai ta dyo zhthmata, xwris kai na ta apokleiw''. Den exei ginei ereyna apo thn astynomia gia na gnwrizw ta apotelesmata ths.

KOYIN: Den syndeetai ti; To kacimo 20 aytokinhtwn me to metanasteytiko nomo; Giati den to katalaba.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sigoyra den syndew to kacimo twn aytokinhtwn me ton metanasteytiko nomo. Eipa oti den apokleiw kapoioi na qeloyn -pairnontas paradeigma apo ta epeisodia sth Gallia- na dhmioyrghsoyn antistoixes taraxes sthn Ellada.

MPOTSARAKOS: Einai antiparagwgikh h syxnh allagh ypoyrgwn kai deyteron, eseis to qesate oti h kybernhsh einai paragwgikh. Na rwthsw to ejhs: Yparxei dynatothta, periqwrio beltiwshs ths paragwgikothtas ths kybernhshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Pantote yparxei se oloys toys tomeis.

MPOTSARAKOS: Ara, einai anoiktos kai o anasxhmatismos h kapoies diorqwtikes kinhseis.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan exei milhsei o Prwqypoyrgos -kai malista se toso syntomo xroniko diasthma- ti perissotero perimenete na pw;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti gnwrizete toys metanastes poy erxontai sthn Ellada, exoyn katagrafei oloi. Gnwrizete posoi einai sthn Ellada, ayth th stigmh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eipa oti me to neo sxedio nomoy, to opoio chfisthke sth Boylh kai einai nomos toy kratoys, allaje mia seira zhthmatwn. Eidikotera anaferqhka sto zhthma ths mhxanorganwshs, poy leitoyrgei poly kalytera apo oti sto parelqon. Ean qelete oloklhrwmena stoixeia, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi perissoteroi, ena megalo pososto, exoyn erqei paranoma kai paramenoyn paranoma sthn Ellada.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw: Exei ginei mia poly megalh prospaqeia. Xreiazotan enas nomos, xreiazotan na allajoyn qesmoi, oi opoioi htan pepalaiwmenoi. Molis prin sas ypedeija ton kwdika iqageneias me thn anafora ston prohgoymeno kwdika toy 1955. Prepei na leitoyrghsoyn pio organwmena oi dhmosies yphresies. Den gnwrizw ean to ergo ayto exei oloklhrwqei, wstoso, exei arxisei.

MOYRTHS: Einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na ferei nomo sth Boylh gia thn proairetikh anagrafh toy qrhskeymatos stis taytothtes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio. Den exei ginei kapoia tetoia syzhthsh.

MOYRTHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia ena qema poy eixa qesei prin 15 hmeres. Eixa rwthsei, ean einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na ferei nomo sth Boylh, ektelestiko toy Syntagmatos, poy na afora sto asymbibasto twn boyleytwn. To Syntagma problepei oti kapoies drasthriothtes einai symbates.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eixa pei na apeyqynqeite sto armodio ypoyrgeio.

MOYRTHS: Eipate oti qa enhmerwqeite kai qa moy apanthsete.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa sas parapemcw sto armodio ypoyrgeio. Na enhmerwqw ki egw parallhlws kai na zhthsw sygnwmh, ean eixa apanthsei etsi, kai den exw dwsei apanthsh akomh.

BLAXOS: Exete enhmerwqei kai qelete na mas peite gia to ti ginetai me tis olympiakes egkatastaseis toy Agioy Kosma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw. Se poio qema anafereste;

BLAXOS: Se ekpomph toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy ston ALPHA.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelw na sas pw oti kinoymai panta epi th basei toy kanona, oti ofeilei kapoios na mhn bgazei symperasmata protoy yparjei oloklhrwmenos elegxos mias ypoqesews. Ap` o,ti gnwrizw, ypoqeseis, opws ayth poy anaferqhkate, elegxontai edw kai poly kairo.

BLAXOS: Giati elegxontai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Htan apo mhnwn aithma ths Eqnikhs Omospondias Petosfairhshs pros to armodio Elegktiko Symboylio ths Genikhs Grammateias Aqlhtismoy.

KAKALHS: Poioys ennoeite otan lete oti den apokleietai na epidiwkoyn th dhmioyrgia taraxwn sthn Ellada me aformh ta gegonota sth Gallia; Exete kapoies sygkekrimenes plhrofories;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O k. Karamanlhs eyriskomenos sthn Iapwnia dhlwse oti telika qa episkefqei thn Toyrkia mesa sto 2006. To erwthma einai oti qa thn episkefqei, opws ki an exoyn ta pragmata; Ean h Toyrkia dhladh einai arnhtikh epi twn eqnikwn qematwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa pw tipota perissotero ep` aytoy toy qematos.

Sas eyxaristw.

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