Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-01-13

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 13 Ianoyarioy 2005

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxei plhroforia gia anagnwrish twn Skopiwn ws ``Makedonia'' apo thn Albania. Isxyei;

ANTWNAROS: Anafereste profanws se apanthsh poy doqhke apo ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Albanias se erwthsh dhmosiografoy. H apanthsh dhmioyrghse mia asafh eikona. Ta peri anagnwrisews den fainontai mexri stigmhs na epibebaiwnontai epishma. Prokeitai gia qema toy opoioy h diereynhsh brisketai se ejelijh. Kai epanalambanw: Ayth th stigmh den fainetai na exoyme epishmh anagnwrish me to onoma ``Makedonia''.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yparxoyn dhlwseis syndikalistwn ths DAKE sthn Eleysina poy epimenoyn oti o Yfypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas k. Mixaloliakos, kata th synanthsh poy eixan, toys ferqhke aprepws. Anaferontai malista se sygkekrimenh frash poy mono se ayto to xwro den tairiazei. Qa hqela ena sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS: To qema gia mas ejantlhqhke apo xqes. Den exw na prosqesw tipote allo.

TSIODRAS: To qema gia sas ejantlhqhke, alla apo o,ti fainetai den ejantlhqhke apo thn pleyra ths DAKE. Katalabainw th xqesinh dhlwsh sas, oti oi syndikalistes exoyn tis apoceis toys, tis opoies mporoyn na ekfrazoyn, omws einai syndikalistes poy einai melh ths Neas Dhmokratias, dhladh toy kybernwntos kommatos kai kataferontai kata ypoyrgwn. Ayto to qema den anhsyxei thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kamia anhsyxia. Oi ypoyrgoi kanoyn th doyleia toys.

GKOYTZANHS: Tis prohgoymenes hmeres o k. Meimarakhs eixe pei oti den qa ginoyn anektes symperifores poy den synadoyn me to yfos kai to hqos ths paratajhs. H fraseologia poy xrhsimopoihse o k. Mixaloliakos gia to poy exei grammena ta stelexh ths DAKE synadei me to yfos kai to hqos ths paratajhs;

ANTWNAROS: Metaferete isxyrismoys memonwmenwn atomwn. Den exw kanena sxolio.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ta stelexh poy bgainoyn dhmosia sta radiofwna kai tis thleoraseis, kathgorwntas th Nea Dhmokratia, den einai melh ths Neas Dhmokratias, den anhkoyn sto xwro ths;

ANTWNAROS: Ti stelexh;

SOYGLERHS: Ths Neas Dhmokratias, ths DAKE den einai stelexh@

ANTWNAROS: H Nea Dhmokratia, opws gnwrizete, diaqetei poly megalo ariqmo energwn melwn.

SOYGLERHS: Gi` aytoys milw. Den anhkoyn sthn paratajh, giati diaforopoioyntai, den exoyn to dikaiwma se ayto to xwro na exoyn diaforetikh apoch gia kapoia pragmata;

ANTWNAROS: H qesh mas, xqes, htan safhs. Den nomizw oti amfisbhtei kaneis se kanena to dikaiwma na ekfrazei tis apoceis toy. Bebaiws, me to katallhlo kai apodekto apo thn koinwnia yfos, giati h koinwnia qetei kanones.

SOYGLERHS: To yfos o Prwqypoyrgos pws to eisprattei h h kybernhsh an qelete. Kai twn syndikalistwn ths DAKE, alla kai twn boyleytwn merikes fores kai twn ypoyrgwn poy diaforopoioyntai se basika qemata leitoyrgias toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

ANTWNAROS: Ep` aytoy toy qematos topoqethqhka xqes. Den prokeitai na kanw kanena allo sxolio.

KAKALHS: Qewrei h kybernhsh oti drash twn syndikalistwn ths DAKE einai empodio h baridi sthn epiteyjh twn kybernhtikwn stoxwn h twn diaforetikwn allagwn poy ejhggeile proxqes o Prwqypoyrgos;

ANTWNAROS: H drash toy syndikalismoy sth xwra exei prosferei para polla.

PALAIOLOGOS: To gegonos oti oi syndikalistes ths DAKE epiplhttoyn kybernhtika stelexh gia ton tropo anaqeshs promhqeiwn, ejoplistikwn sygkekrimena, poy aforoyn to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas den thn afora; Kat` arxas, synadei me to yfos kai to hqos twn syndikalistwn kai deyteron ti apanta h kybernhsh apo th stigmh poy mallon deixnei gia toys syndikalistes pws einai zhthma zwtikhs shmasias;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh apanthse xqes.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Peritto na sas anaferw oti xqes eixame pali parabaseis kai parabiaseis ston enaerio xwro apo toyrkika aeroskafh. Ayto einai kaqhmerinh ypoqesh, to antiparerxomai. Ti ginetai me tis dhlwseis Poytin, epibebaiwnontai; Kai an nai problhmatizoyn thn ellhnikh kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete h episkech toy k. Erntogan oloklhrwqhke xqes brady. H epishmh enhmerwsh ths ellhnikhs pleyras synexizetai. Shmantikh diapistwsh gia thn ellhnikh pleyra einai oti h rwsikh ejwterikh politikh sthrizetai se arxes poy tis diakrinoyn h synepeia kai h synexeia.

SPYRAKH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me sygxwreite, qewreite ``synepeia kai synexeia'' to oti o k. Poytin eipe mprosta sthn kamera oti h Rwsia qewrei qetikh ejelijh thn apeyqeias enarjh emporioy me th Boreia Kypro; Giati etsi akribws metafrasthke.

ANTWNAROS: Qa kanoyme apotimhsh, opws sas eipa, ths episkechs toy k. Erntogan.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Me sygxwreite, den exete parei thn epishmh dhlwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn;

ANTWNAROS: Sas milhsa gia epishmh enhmerwsh kai apotimhsh.

GALIATSATOS: Mias kai xreiazetai kapoios xronos gia na kanete tis apotimhseis, na kanw mia erwthsh poy exei kai parelqontikh anafora. Diabasa xqes mia anakoinwsh toy Yfypoyrgoy k. Salagkoydh oti ton exei kalesei o k. Biktwr Xristenko, o opoios einai antiproedros ths rwsikhs kybernhshs kai ypoyrgos biomhxanias kai energeias, gia na ypogracoyn to perifhmo mnhmonio gia ton agwgo Mpoyrgkaz-Alejandroypolhs. Epeidh jeroyme oti sth dieqnh diplwmatia yparxei kapoio prwtokollo mporeite na moy peite pws enas ypoyrgos kai antiproedros kybernhshs apeyqynei prosklhsh se yfypoyrgo; Kai to deytero poy qa hqela na jerw einai, epeidh o k. Xristenko htan parwn sth synanthsh ths Mosxas me ton k. Karamanlh kai sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn, giati apo thn ellhnikh pleyra den paristato o analogos ypoyrgos toy, dhladh o k. Sioyfas;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw poion orizei h rwsikh pleyra. H ellhnikh pleyra orizei profanws ton k. Salagkoydh. Poion orizei h rwsikh pleyra afora thn idia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Xqes, o k. Mixaloliakos fainetai pws anoije kai ena neo metwpo meta toys syndikalistes ths DAKE, ayto me ton proistameno Ypoyrgo toy k. Sphliwtpoylo. Afora to qema ths apeyqeias anaqeshs kapoioy eidoys tyfekioy sthn EBO Aigioy gia to opoio kykloforhsan kai polles fhmes oti yphrje parejhghsh kai gia to opoio ebale enantion toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy. Ti exei na pei h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Apodidete tis dhlwseis toy k. Mixaloliakoy apospasmatika. Parakalw na tis apodidete oloklhres.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw gia to qema toy tyfekioy na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Einai h deyterh fora poy o k. Mixaloliakos brisketai sto epikentro diamaxhs me alloys synadelfoys gia pragmata poy feretai na toy apodidontai kai telika den exei pei. Den exei pei gia syndikalistes, den exei pei gia ton k. Sphliwtopoylo kai omws monimws brisketai sto epikentro ekwn akwn.

ANTWNAROS: Apodidete ston k. Mixaloliako apoceis kai alla tina kai den katalabainw gia poio logo. Den diakrinw tipota.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhmosiografikes plhrofories einai poy malista eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas kai anaparhxqhsan apo MME.

ANTWNAROS: Dhmosiografikes plhrofories genika, etsi opws moy tis metaferete, den prokeitai na sxoliasw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den yparxei dhladh qema gia to tyfekio kai thn apeyqeias anaqesh sthn EBO Aigioy;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti prokeitai gia eidiko qema. Apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas.

TSIODRAS: Ayth th stigmh brisketai se ejelijh sto Ypoyrgeio Agrotikhs Anaptyjhs h synanthsh toy k. Mpasiakoy me toys syndikalistes kai toy boyleytes ths N.D. ths Qessalias. Yparxoyn omws kai se alles perioxes agrotes poy diamartyrontai.

ANTWNAROS: Me toys ekproswpoys twn agrotwn.

TSIODRAS: Nai. Exei etoimasei h kybernhsh kapoio paketo poy na apanta se kapoia apo ta aithmata twn agrotwn; Giati mas eipate oti oi eqnikes epidothseis den qa doqoyn, atoka daneia den qa doqoyn.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth th stigmh diejagetai mia syzhthsh, enas dialogos. Den prokeitai na ypeiselqw, th stigmh poy o dialogos brisketai se ejelijh, se leptomereies aytoy toy dialogoy.

LEONTITSH: H kybernhsh syzhtaei mono me toys galazioys agrotosyndikalistes kai oxi me toys ypoloipoys agrotes;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei syzhthsei kai syzhtei me oloys toys ekproswpoys toy agrotikoy kosmoy.

LEONTITSH: Na perimenoyme dhladh h epomenh synanthsh toy Ypoyrgoy na einai me toys agrotes ths Makedonias kai toys ypoloipoys agrotes toy qessalikoy kampoy;

ANTWNAROS: Osoi exoyn qemata pros syzhthsh, syzhtoyn me thn politikh hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy.

LEONTITSH: Qa apeyqynei prosklhsh to Ypoyrgeio;

ANTWNAROS: Otan prokycei ena qema, ginontai synennohseis metajy twn dyo pleyrwn.

LEONTITSH: Moiazoyn perissotero eswkommatika para formalistika.

ANTWNAROS: Den exei kanena tetoio xarakthra h synanthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai eyxaristhmenos me thn troph poy pairnoyn ta gegonota apo ta epeisodia ths Neas Smyrnhs kai me ayta poy akoysthkan xqes sthn Kalliqea;

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh exoyn topoqethqei me apolyth safhneia se oti afora ston aqlhtiko xwro kai eidika sto xwro toy podosfairoy. H koinwnia den einai diateqeimenh na anextei symperifores oi opoies jefeygoyn apo toys kanones ekeinoys poy h poly megalh pleiochfia twn sympolitwn mas akoloyqei kaqhmerina. Osoi pane sto ghpedo, sth syntriptikh toys pleiochfia, pane gia na parakoloyqhsoyn kai na apolaysoyn me hremia mia aqlhtikh diorganwsh. Ekfraseis xydaiothtas apo mikro ariqmo atomwn poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me to filaqlo pneyma apodokimazontai apo th megalh pleiochfia twn filaqlwn poy opws sas eipa pane se enan aqlhtiko xwro gia na perasoyn dyo, treis wres eyxarista.

SOYGLERHS: Eimaste poly konta poy h kybernhsh, to kratos qa parei kapoies prwtoboylies, gia aytoys toys anqrwpoys poy amayrwnoyn to ellhniko podosfairo;

ANTWNAROS: Oi prwtoboylies exoyn lhfqei kai ayth th stigmh briskomaste sto stadio ths efarmoghs toys. Efarmozontai bhma @ bhma kai me apofasistikothta.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ayta ta synqhmata poy akoysthkan kata toy Prwqypoyrgoy, den prokalesan algeinh entypwsh;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa.

GALIATSATOS: Ma, h PAE Olympiakos ebgale mia anakoinwsh xqes, me thn opoia mila gia organwmeno sxedio ejontwshs ths. Exete kapoio sxolio gi` ayto;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pantws, den fobatai h kybernhsh oti ayto to qema pairnei alles diastaseis kai ginetai prospaqeia politikopoihshs toy;

ANTWNAROS: H syntriptikh pleiochfia twn filaqlwn gnwrizei para poly kala na apomonwnei aytoys toys ligoys poy parektrepontai.

GALIATSATOS: Na epanelqw sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh moy, giati exw thn aisqhsh oti den moy apanthsate. Moy eipate oti thn pleyra ths kybernhshs ekproswpei se aytes tis energeiakes synomilies o k. Salagkoydhs. Ean einai etsi ta pragmata, tote giati o k. Salagkoydhs den htan sthn episkech sth Mosxa opoy syzhthqhkan ola ayta;

ANTWNAROS: H synqesh mias kybernhtikhs apostolhs einai kati to opoio apofasizoyn o Prwqypoyrgos kai to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

GALIATSATOS: Se allo qema. Yparxei h apanthsh, se eperwthsh ston k. Papadhmoylh, apo thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, h opoia paradexetai oti oi italikes mystikes yphresies eixan sthsei diktyo parakoloyqhshs kinhtwn thlefwnwn en agnoia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, sth xwra mas. Pote enhmerwqhke gi` ayto h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai ti diabhmata exei analabei ektote stis italikes arxes.

ANTWNAROS: Ginontai oi analoges ereynes, wste na diapistwqei h basimothta aytwn twn isxyrismwn. Otan oloklhrwqoyn oi ereynes, qa sas enhmerwsoyme gia ta bhmata poy endexomenws qa ginoyn.

PALAIOLOGOS :Exei kapoio sxolio h kybernhsh sxetika me th diarrhjh poy feretai na egine sto spiti ths Grammateas toy Ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas k. Sphliwtopoyloy, h opoia krathqhke mystikh;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw sxolia epi toy astynomikoy deltioy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den einai ``astynomikoy deltioy''. Afora th Grammatea enos ypoyrgoy ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw sxolio epi toy astynomikoy deltioy.

MIXAHL: Oi ergazomenoi sth DAKE ebgalan nea anakoinwsh shmera, me thn opoia kataggelloyn ton k. Mixaloliako gia neo ybristiko periexomeno eis baros toys. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Ola ayta ta epanalambanomena symptwmata h kybernhsh mexri poioy shmeioy mporei na ta @epitrecte moy th frash- anexqei;

ANTWNAROS: Kanate mia laqos diatypwsh. Eipate oi ``ergazomenoi sth DAKE''. Den gnwrizw h DAKE na apasxolei anqrwpoys. Oso gia to erwthma sas, apanthsa molis pro oligoy kai den exw tipota allo na prosqesw.

MIXAHL: Gia sas, dhladh, mporei na epanalhfqoyn tetoioy eidoys symptwmata @na to pw etsi- kai eseis na anamenw oti h apanthsh poy moy dinete twra einai kai isxyei h idia;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa shmera, 13 Ianoyarioy, th sygkekrimenh wra.

GALIATSATOS: Qa anaferqw sto prwtoselido ths efhmeridas ``TA NEA'', gia toys nanorypoys poy pnigoyn thn Aqhna. Symfwna me to reportaz den exoyn qespistei akomh oria gi` ayta ta swmatidia, ta opoia aiwroyntai kai apeiloyn thn ygeia twn politwn. Einai diateqeimenh h kybernhsh na kanei kapoies energeies, na proxwrhsei wste na kaqarisei h atmosfaira ths Aqhnas pali;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto YPEXWDE.

PALAIOLOGOS: Einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo thn troph poy pairnei h ypoqesh ths DEKA; Giati, ean qymamai kala, h N.D. ws ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh eixe politikopoihsei to qema ths DEKA kai twn piqanwn eyqynwn, poinikwn kai politikwn, twn emplekomenwn proswpwn kai shmera blepoyme @h toylaxiston akoyme- oti oi kathgoroymenoi, oxi pantws ta politika proswpa, afeqhkan eleyqeroi, xwris perioristikoys oroys.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw apofaseis ths Dikaiosynhs.

GALIATSATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h Ejetastikh Epitroph gia to Xrhmatisthrio qa ginei;

ANTWNAROS: Thn apanthsh moy th gnwrizete. Qa perimenoyme na oloklhrwqei h ereyna poy brisketai se ejelijh enwpion ths Dikaiosynhs. Ean kriqei oti prepei na ftasei to qema sth Boylh, tote h Boylh qa apofasisei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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