Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-11-16

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Aqhna, 16 Noembrioy 2004

JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me ton Ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Giwrgo Alogoskoyfh kai me ton Proedro ths Enwshs Ellhnikwn Trapezwn k. Giannh Kwstopoylo.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pame se ekloges;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei qema eklogwn.

BLAXOS: Poy to jerete, oti den yparxei qema eklogwn; Efoson den yparxei proswpo koinhs apodoxhs to endexomeno eklogwn einai anoixto. Ean qelete na mas peite oti exei symfwnhsei o k. Karamanlhs me ton k. Giwrgo Papandreoy sthn ejeyresh proswpoy koinhs apodoxhs, tote mporeite na mas to peite, alla mh mas peite onoma. Sas dinoyme th dynatothta na mh mas peite onoma, alla peite mas oti exoyn symfwnhsei.

ANTWNAROS: Kyrie Blaxo eiste empeiros politikos syntakths. Omws, katalhgete se ayqaireta symperasmata ta opoia den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta.

BLAXOS: Apanthsh qelw, den qelw na moy peite ta symperasmata. Apanthsh exete se ayto; Se ayth th logikh exete apanthsh; Sth syllogistikh poy sas aneptyja;

ANTWNAROS: Kaqe syzhthsh gia thn proedrikh eklogh einai prowrh.

BLAXOS: Poy jerete oti den qa ginoyn ekloges. Ayto qelw na moy peite. Poy jerete oti den qa ginoyn ekloges;

ANTWNAROS: Sas epanalambanw oti h kybernhsh qa efarmosei to Syntagma mesa sto pneyma ths synaineshs poy problepei to Syntagma etsi wste na breqei, sta plaisia ths synennohshs thn opoia paroysiase o Prwqypoyrgos, enas ypochfios poy qa exei thn apodoxh twn Ellhnwn.

MPOTSARAKOS: H kybernhsh symfwnei oti to 1989 eginan yperboles;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai se ti anafereste.

MPOTSARAKOS: O k. Kwnstantopoylos asxeta me to rolo poy endexomenws qa exei, giati den qa apanthsete, eipe xqes oti eginan yperboles to 1989 kai malista oti symmeteixe kai aytos. Symfwnei h kybernhsh oti to 1989 eginan yperboles;

ANTWNAROS: Den krinw, oyte sxoliazw tis dhlwseis allwn politikwn arxhgwn, oi opoioi diatypwnoyn proswpikes apoceis gia sygkekrimenes periodoys ths sygxronhs ellhnikhs istorias.

GKOYTZANHS: Afora th Nea Dhmokratia ayto, den einai qema krishs se ena proswpo.

ANTWNAROS: Eimai ekproswpos ths kybernhshs kai oxi toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias.

GKOYTZANHS: Kai thn kybernhsh thn afora.

ANTWNAROS: Allh erwthsh, parakalw.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, efoson h ekkremothta ths proedrikhs ekloghs kalliergei kai ena plaisio astaqeias, qa elege kaneis, afoy afhnei anoixto to endexomeno twn prowrwn eklogwn, den katanow giati o Prwqypoyrgos o k. Karamanlhs den pairnei thn prwtoboylia na fwnajei sto Megaro Majimoy, edw kai twra, to Giwrgo Papandreoy na ta broyn kai na teleiwnoyme me ayth thn istoria, ean ontws einai eilikrines ayto poy legetai kai apo esas kai epaneilhmmena apo paragontes ths kybernhshs oti epidiwkete th synainesh sthn proedrikh eklogh;

ANTWNAROS: To Syntagma proypoqetei synainesh kata thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. H kybernhsh, h opoia exei thn eyqynh ths diakybernhshs ths xwras, einai fysiko na efarmozei to pneyma toy Syntagmatos. Den yparxei kanena klima astaqeias, san ki ayto to opoio ypainixqhkate. H xwra kybernatai me megalh staqerothta kai makra pnoh.

KAKALHS: Alhqeyei oti o Prwqypoyrgos diemhnyse stoys ypoyrgoys toy oti den yparxei qema eklogwn kai na proshlwqoyn sta ypoyrgika toys kaqhkonta;

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei qema eklogwn. Oi ypoyrgoi einai oytws h allws proshlwmenoi sta ypoyrgika toys kaqhkonta.

XONDROS: Giati, h kybernhsh den pairnei mia prwtoboylia na kleisei ayto to qema ths filologias peri prowrwn eklogwn, oxi bazei ton k. Papandreoy, alla apla anakoinwnontas to onoma toy ypochfioy sto opoio qa yparjei synainesh gia na mporesei h politikh zwh na apegklwbistei apo thn proedrologia kai na (den akoygetai) me kati sobaro;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti einai prowrh opoiadhpote syzhthsh gia to qema ths proedrikhs ekloghs. En pash periptwsei, ayth h filologia sthn opoia anaferqhkate den kalliergeitai apo thn kybernhsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Kalliergeitai apo toys Ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs. Na qymisw tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Panagiwtopoyloy;

XIWTHS: Mas eipate oti ayrio qa metaboyn sto Megaro Majimoy o k. Alogoskoyfhs kai o k. Kwstopoylos, ths Alpha Bank;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Kwstopoylos metabainei me thn idiothta toy Proedroy ths Enwshs Ellhnikwn Trapezwn.

XIWTHS: To antikeimeno ths syzhthshs poio einai;

ANTWNAROS: H synanthsh ayth, opws kai alles poy prohghqhkan, einai sto plaisio ths enhmerwshs poy exei o Prwqypoyrgos gia to trapeziko systhma kai synafh oikonomika qemata.

XIWTHS: H kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh me ton tropo poy antapokrinontai oi trapezes stis dosolhcies toys me toys polites;

ANTWNAROS: Prokeitai gia ena eidiko qema to opoio den epiqymw na sxoliasw.

KAKALHS: To asfalistiko twn trapezwn qa syzhthqei sth synanthsh;

ANTWNAROS: Otan teleiwsei h synanthsh, fantazomai oti qa kanei dhlwseis o k. Alogoskoyfhs.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Se aythn edw thn aiqoysa exete epaneilhmmenws epanalabei oti h Ellada sthrizei thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias. Wstoso stis 17 Dekembrioy stis Bryjeles, skopeyete na qesete kapoioys oroys sthn toyrkikh pleyra se oti afora thn arsh toy casus belli kai se oti afora thn anagnwrish ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Koymoytsakos ekane xqes enhmerwsh gia qemata poy aforoyn sthn ejwterikh politikh. Opws antilambaneste h kybernhsh den qa qesei se dhmosio dialogo ola ta qemata poy qa syzhthqoyn kata th diadromh pros th 17h Dekembrioy.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Sas fobizei h paraithsh toy Skopianoy Prwqypoyrgoy kai fobaste oti mporei na dhmioyrghqei ena poly bary klima me aprobleptes ejelijeis sta Balkania;

ANTWNAROS: Den mas fobizei tipote tetoio. H paraithsh toy Skopianoy Prwqypoyrgoy einai eswteriko qema ths geitonikhs xwras. Ekeino poy mas endiaferei -kai isxyei gia oles tis geitonikes xwres kai oxi mono gia thn PGDM- einai na epikratei staqerothta, asfaleia kai eirhnh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: O Skopianos Prwqypoyrgos paraithqhke gia ta problhmata poy exei me toys Albanoys. Ayth h ptyxh toy qematos den sas fobizei;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na ypeiselqw stoys logoys gia toys opoioys paraithqhke o Prwqypoyrgos ths geitonikhs xwras.

MPOTSARAKOS: Gia pollosth fora xqes h kybernhsh dia mesoy toy ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs stelnei kapoia mhnymata gia to qema ths diaplokhs. Qa hqela na rwthsw giati exoyme tosa polla kai hxhra mhnymata gia to qema ths diaplokhs kai den blepoyme erga. Yparxei kapoio empodio sto ergo ths kybernhshs gia thn antimetwpish toy qematos ths diaplokhs;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Papalhgoyras anaferqhke sto qema kai epanelabe th gnwsth kai epekfrasmenh qesh ths kybernhshs. Einai apofash mas na katapolemhsoyme th diaplokh kai na ejasfalisoyme th diafaneia. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh exoyn lhfqei hdh sygkekrimena metra.

TSIODRAS: Se sxesh me to qema ths proedrikhs ekloghs eixate pei s` aythn edw thn aiqoysa -den qymamai an eisaste eseis h o k. Roysopoylos- oti h synainesh qa epiteyxqei eite me thn anakoinwsh kapoioy onomatos ek meroys ths kybernhshs, poy qa sygkentrwnei th synainesh, eite mesa apo synennohsh h diaboyleysh metajy twn kommatwn. Mporeite na mas peite se poia apo tis dyo lyseis katalhgei h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kamia apolytws dhlwsh gia to qema ths proedrikhs ekloghs.

TSIODRAS: Oyte an qa exei prwtoboylia h kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Kamia apolytws dhlwsh gia to qema ths proedrikhs ekloghs.

LEONTITSH: Xqes, sto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn Eqnikhs Amynas ths E.E. edeijan thn porta sto ypoyrgo Amynas ths Kyproy. Toy eipan ``parakaloyme, peraste ejw''. H Kypros, loipon, ws isotimo melos ths E.E. kai plhres, eidame na bgainei apo mia tetoia poly shmantikh diaskech. Poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs kai poia h antidrash ths;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw ypoch moy to sygkekrimeno symban kai oyte prokeitai na to sxoliasw.

KARAMPASHS: Qa moy epitrecete ki emena na epimeinw ligo sthn proedrikh eklogh. Eipate prohgoymenws oti den yparxei qema eklogwn, alla yparxoyn polla dhmosieymata kai h aisqhsh oti eytelizetai h diadikasia me ola osa blepoyme kai diabazoyme.

ANTWNAROS: Se poia diadikasia anafereste;

KARAMPASHS: H diadikasia gia thn proedrikh eklogh me ola osa ginontai ayton ton kairo. Kat` arxas, yparxei ayth h aisqhsh sthn kybernhsh oti eytelizetai h diadikasia; To deytero erwthma, epeidh o Proedros toy PASOK k. Papandreoy eipe oti den qa paijoyn paixnidia se baros mas, ara den yparxei synainesh en kenw ayth th stigmh kai eqese treis proypoqeseis. Pws to eklambanei ayto h kybernhsh; Kai ena trito erwthma, yparxei periptwsh na anakoinwqei to onoma toy ypochfioy gia thn Proedria ths Dhmokratias me th syzhthsh toy proypologismoy;

ANTWNAROS: Opoiadhpote syzhthsh gia to qema ths proedrikhs ekloghs einai prowrh.

BLAXOS: Mporeite na mas ejhghsete to logo giati den kanete sxolio;

ANTWNAROS: Sas ejhgw oti einai prowro na syzhthqei, kata thn apoch ths kybernhshs, to qema ths proedrikhs ekloghs.

BLAXOS: Xqes, omws, o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, qesmikos paragontas, jekinhse to dialogo. Periegrace, dhladh, treis oroys toys opoioys prepei na ikanopoiei o ypochfios gia thn Proedria ths Dhmokratias. Se ayth thn prosklhsh den apantate;

ANTWNAROS: Einai politikh epilogh toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

BLAXOS: Qa thn afhsete anapanthth;

ANTWNAROS: Allh erwthsh parakalw.

SIDERHS: O k. Papalhgoyras -na epanelqw- anakalyce th nea megalh idea toy eqnoys, opws eipe. Qa mporoysate na mas apariqmhsete, ti exete kanei ws twra, oktw mhnes, gia na yphrethsete ayth th megalh idea toy eqnoys, mh faneite epiorkoi;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw ayth th stigmh analytiko apologismo toy ergoy ths kybernhshs. Toyto mono: To ergo ths kybernhshs einai ploysio. H kybernhsh exei kanei polla kai sygkekrimena se diaforoys tomeis.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mia poy milame gia to qema ths diaplokologias, pote telika qa katateqei to nomosxedio gia ton basiko metoxo;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa xqes. Den prokeitai na epanalabw thn apanthsh moy gia mia akoma fora. Katanta entelws monotono. Opws antilambaneste, den allaje entos 24 wrwn h qesh ths kybernhshs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Den qewrei, loipon, h kybernhsh oti exei kaqysterhsei kata poly to nomosxedio;

ANTWNAROS: Apolytws oxi.

TSIODRAS: Milate gia synainesh gia thn Proedria ths Dhmokratias, oi oroi poy qetei o k. Papandreoy briskoyn symfwnoys thn kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na anaferqw se qemata poy exoyn sxesh me thn proedrikh eklogh. Otan krinei h kybernhsh oti exei erqei o xronos, qa to prajei. Twra kaqe syzhthsh einai prowrh.

PEPONHS: Dyo basika erga ypodomhs gia th dytikh Ellada kai thn Hpeiro htan o dytikos odikos ajonas kai o sidhrodromos. Sta erga ayta parathreitai stasimothta kai adraneia. Oi Nomarxiakes Aytodioikhseis ths Hpeiroy kai ths dytikhs Elladas exoyn arxisei kinhtopoihseis. Poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs, ean exei kati sygkekrimeno na pei gi ayta;

ANTWNAROS: Einai ediko qema. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto YPEXWDE.

PEPONHS: Den einai eidiko qema, apeyqynontai ston Proedro ths kybernhshs ton k. Karamanlh.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kamia kaqysterhsh.

GKOYTZANHS: H kybernhsh anhsyxei gia th diathrhsh ths staqerothtas, ths asfaleias kai ths eirhnhs sta Balkania;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

KARAMPASHS: Yparxei kati neotero gyrw apo thn ejetastikh epitroph gia to Xrhmatisthrio;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena sxolio gi ayto to qema.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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