Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-10-05

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Aqhna, 5 Oktwbrioy 2004

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

Pro oligoy oloklhrwqhke h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs me qema to sxedio nomoy ``peri kyrwsews toy Kwdika ths Ellhnikhs Iqageneias'', me eishghth ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs Prokoph Paylopoylo.

Shmera, stis 19:30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei ton Proedro ths DEH k. Giannh Palaiokrassa.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

XIDIROGLOY: Blepw sto sxedio nomo poy mas dianemhqhke to ejhs: ``H apodoxh h oxi ths aithshs apo ton Ypoyrgo, enapokeitai sth diakritikh eyxereia toy, efoson gia thn aporriptikh krish den apaiteitai aitiologia''. Kai ligo parakatw: ``Mporei na arnhqei thn politografhsh kata synektimhsh stoixeiwn poy sxetizontai me ta genikotera symferonta toy kratoys''. Exw thn entypwsh oti toylaxiston ayth h diatypwsh poy blepw edw einai ypokeimenikh. Pws sxoliazete;

ANTWNAROS: Gi ayta ta qemata qa apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs.

POYLIDOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean exei epitrapei o gamos omofylofilwn, sthn Ellada, giati sto sxedio nomoy, problepetai ``h apodosh ths ellhnikhs iqageneias ston syzygo Ellhna diplwmatikoy ypallhloy''. Peite ston eishghth na prosexei ta genh h na to diorqwsei.

ANTWNAROS: Qa to katagracw.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw ean to onoma toy Kwsta Shmith einai anamesa se ayta poy skeftetai h kybernhsh gia Proedro ths Dhmokratias. To rwtw etsi giati ean sas pw oti to proteinei o k. Mhtsotakhs, edw kai dyo hmeres synexws, qa moy peite oti den sxoliazete tis dhlwseis toy.

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei kanena apolytws onoma to opoio na skeptetai h kybernhsh. Einai prowro na ginetai syzhthsh gia thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias.

IWANNOY: To onoma toy Kwsta Shmith apokleietai@;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti einai poly prowro na ginetai syzhthsh gia thn eklogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias.

IWANNOY: Kai kati allo: H k. Mpakogiannh einai ayth th stigmh to ``noymero 2'' sto komma;

ANTWNAROS: Oyden sxolion.

IWANNOY: O k. Mhtsotakhs eipe oti fysika, nomoteleiaka, qa ginei Prwqypoyrgos meta ton Kwsta Karamanlh kai oti einai to ``noymero 2'' sto komma.

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, den sxoliazoyme dhlwseis toy epitimoy Proedroy ths N.D.

GKOYTZANHS: Giati k. Ekproswpe; Den einai paragontas toy kybernwntos kommatos o k. Mhtsotakhs;

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazoyme dhlwseis toy k. Mhtsotakh.

GKOYTZANHS: As mhn sxoliazete, alla apasxolei thn kybernhsh oti edw kai ena mhna exei bgei polles fores sta MME dhmioyrgwntas qemata sthn epikairothta; Zhtwntas ekloges kai legontas oti h oikonomia odhgei se ekloges.

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw kamia dhlwsh toy k. Mhtsotakh.

GKOYTZANHS: Den zhthsa sxolio. Rwthsa ean apasxolei thn kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Den apasxolei tipota tetoio thn kybernhsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Sthn kybernhtikh Epitroph, syzhthqhke kapoio allo qema se sxesh me prwtoboylia (den akoygetai)@

ANTWNAROS: Den yparxei tipota allo na sas anakoinwsw sxetika me thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph.

PALAIOLOGOS: Shmera to prwi, o Arxiepiskopos k. Xristodoylos, se mia omilia toy eipe xarakthristika oti o idios kai h Ekklhsia den exoyn jexasei ta qemata poy exoyn ypobalei ston Prwqypoyrgo k. Kwsta Karamanlh. Mporeite na mas peite poia einai ayta ta qemata poy exoyn ypoblhqei ston k. Karamanlh;

ANTWNAROS: Mporeite na rwthsete ton Arxiepiskopo poia qemata ennoei. Den sxoliazw dhlwseis toy Arxiepiskopoy, twn opoiwn malista den exw to akribes keimeno.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, einai qema ajiopistias. Alla, apo th stigmh poy eipwqhke gia kapoia qemata poy exei ypobalei ston k. Karamanlh@

ANTWNAROS: Den qelw na amfisbhthsw oti metaferete ajiopista ayta poy exoyn lexqei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mesa se ayta ta qemata einai ayto twn taytothtwn, ths ekklhsiastikhs perioysias; Poia einai ayta ta qemata;

ANTWNAROS: Apeyqynqeite ston Arxiepiskopo, ean ekeinos to anefere.

PALAIOLOGOS: To anefere, omws, me thn ennoia toy ypainigmoy h ths proeidopoihshs, ean den kanw laqos.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai h dikh sas ermhneia, thn opoia den aspazomai.

GKOYTZANHS: Anejarthtws, toy Arxiepiskopoy, yparxei qema taytothtwn;

ANTWNAROS: Ennoeite ean yparxei ayth th stigmh epikairo qema; Asfalws, oxi.

GKOYTZANHS: Ayth th stigmh h genikws; Giati qymomaste oti h N.D. ws antipoliteysh exei krathsei mia kapoia stash@

ANTWNAROS: Blepete na qetei kaneis qema taytothtwn;

TAKHS: Eipate oti den sxoliazete tis dhlwseis toy k. Mhtsotakh. Ayto poy hqela na sas rwthsw einai ean yparxoyn skeceis kai ean problhmatizeste ean telika aytes oi parembaseis kai oi dhlwseis dhmioyrgoyn problhma kai sthn kybernhsh kai to komma. Dioti polloi boyleytes ths N.D. se phgadakia kai se syzhthseis lene oti aytes oi dhlwseis prokaloyn problhma kai ginontai ean qelete kai me kapoia idioteleia.

ANTWNAROS: Den dhmioyrgeitai kanena apolytws problhma.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ennoeite apo tis dhlwseis toy k. Mhtsotakh h genikotera;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa se ayto poy erwthqhka.

PALAIOLOGOS: H kybernhsh poy apodidei olh ayth th syzhthsh gia ekloges, gia thn proedrikh eklogh; Qewreite oti yparxoyn alla@

ANTWNAROS: Den blepoyme na qetei kaneis qema eklogwn. Einai dikh sas ermhneia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qelete na sas pw ti eipe akribws;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na sxoliasw dhlwseis kanenos kai poly perissotero toy k. Mhtsotakh.

POYLIDOY: Epeidh rwtate, sas apantw@

ANTWNAROS: H Kybernhsh den qetei qema eklogwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: To qetoyn omws stelexh poy proskeintai sto xwro ths kybernhtikhs paratajhs, opws o k. Mhtsotakhs.

ANTWNAROS: Den to blepw etsi. Den blepw na qetei kaneis qema dienergeias eklogwn. Diabaste prosektika oles tis dhlwseis kai qa to diapistwsete.

XIDIROGLOY: Sxetika me to qema twn ejetastikwn epitropwn: O Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos mas exei pei edw, kata kairoys, oti kaneis den einai yperanw toy nomoy, oti kaqe fora poy h Dikaiosynh apaitei mia peraiterw diereynhsh sth Boylh, to qema qa diereynatai, alla kaneis den einai yperanw toy nomoy. Telika, omws, blepw oti h Eisaggelia stelnei ypoqeseis sth Boylh kai h Kybernhsh einai skeptikh gia to an qa proxwrhsei thn kaqe ypoqesh h oxi. Telika isxyoyn politika krithria sthn apofash ths Boylhs an qa diereynhqei mia ypoqesh h oxi, asxeta an h Kybernhsh pisteyei oti yparxei kati to mempto pisw apo kaqe ypoqesh;

ANTWNAROS: Oi Eisaggelikes Arxes apostelloyn dikografies, efoson to krinoyn, sth Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Enapokeitai sta kommata na proteinoyn th systash ejetastikhs epitrophs -an to krinoyn- kai efoson melethsoyn tis sygkekrimenes dikografies kai kaqe periptwsh jexwrista me ta stoixeia poy periexei. Ayth einai h diadikasia poy problepetai kai apo ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Blepete, dhladh, sto qema poy anekyce xqes apo to ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias, se sxesh me thn periptwsh Anwmerith, na proxwraei se systash ejetastikhs epitrophs;

ANTWNAROS: H Nea Dhmokratia qa melethsei to qema kai qa apofasisei pws qa to xeiristei, ektimwntas ta stoixeia poy periexontai sth sygkekrimenh dikografia. Polles dikografies, sto parelqon, efqasan sth Boylh kai den katelhjan se ejetastikh epitroph. H kaqe periptwsh exei ta dika ths xarakthristika.

XIDIROGLOY: Ta dika ths politika xarakthristika;

ANTWNAROS: Ta stoixeia poy tekmhriwnoyn th dikografia. Mia dikografia tekmhriwnetai apo sygkekrimena stoixeia ta opoia sygkentrwnei kai sta opoia katalhgei o eisaggelikos leitoyrgos poy kanei thn ereyna.

KAKALHS: Shmera, opws eixate anaferei kai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, lhgei h symbash misqwshs toy Zepelin. Xqes elhje h adeia poy eixe dwsei h Arxh Prostasias Dedomenwn gia tis kameres. Wstoso, h Kybernhsh den exei jekaqarisei th stash ths. To erwthma einai: Qa synexisei na xrhsimopoiei h Kybernhsh aytoys toys mhxanismoys parakoloyqhshs twn politwn, adiaforwntas gia thn katapathsh twn syntagmatikwn eleyqeriwn kai twn atomikwn dikaiwmatwn;

ANTWNAROS: Milate gia dyo diaforetika pragmata. Einai safes oti h symbash misqwshs toy Zepelin elhje. Oson afora sth xrhsh twn sygkekrimenwn systhmatwn, exei dhlwqei oti qa xrhsimopoihqoyn gia na bohqhsoyn thn kalyterh leitoyrgia toy kykloforiakoy kai toy sygkoinwniakoy diktyoy sthn Aqhna.

KAKALHS: Oi sygkoinwniakoi logoi einai mallon profash, giati yparxoyn sobares enstaseis, afoy exoyn topoqethqei kameres se dromoys me poly mikrh kykloforia, opws, gia paradeigma, sth Didotoy sta Ejarxeia.

ANTWNAROS: Sto dromo poy anaferqhkate, opoios perna taktika apo ekei, qa exei dei oti h kinhsh einai pyknh. Alla den mporw na anaferqw se kaqe dromo jexwrista.

GKOYTZANHS: Yparxei gia thn Kybernhsh qema parabiashs twn proswpikwn dedomenwn apo th leitoyrgia aytwn twn mhxanismwn;

ANTWNAROS: Se kamia periptwsh den prokeitai na epitrecoyme na ginei parabash twn kanonwn poy aforoyn sthn prostasia twn proswpikwn dedomenwn.

GKOYTZANHS: Sas qymizw oti, se mia syskech poy eixe ginei prin apo dyo ebdomades ypo ton k. Boylgarakh, den eixe klhqei ekproswpos ths Arxhs Prostasias Proswpikwn Dedomenwn.

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti den qa epitrecoyme na ginei kamia tetoia parabash.

GALIATSATOS: O k. Boylgarakhs se olh thn diarkeia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn mas elege oti den yphrxan oploforoi synodoi sthn Aqhna. To elege kai to epanalambane met` epitasews. Shmera apokalyptetai apo phges toy FBI kai apo dhmosieyma ths @LOS ANGELES TIMES@, poy anadhmosieyetai se ellhnikes efhmerides, oti ontws aytoi oploforoysan kai to paradexetai epishmws kai to FBI. Epimenei h Kybernhsh oti den oploforoysan aytoi oi froyroi sth diarkeia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn;

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw dhmosieymata jenwn efhmeridwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh me to porisma gia to Sinoyk, se poia fash brisketai; Exei doqei sta xeria toy ypoyrgoy k. Sphliwtopoyloy; Qa hqela na mas peite an epimerizontai eyqynes h an qa yparjei kapoia peraiterw ajiopoihsh toy.

ANTWNAROS: To porisma ths EDE gia tis kaqysterhseis poy yphrjan sthn enhmerwsh sxetika me to dystyxhma, einai aporrhto ek toy nomoy. Emperiexei proswpika dedomena kai afora ton peiqarxiko elegxo twn ajiwmatikwn kai ypajiwmatikwn poy feretai na emplekontai. Einai dedomena toy proswpikoy fakeloy toy kaqenos. O fakelos einai aporrhtos kai den qa doqei sth dhmosiothta.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se politiko epipedo ayto to porisma qa ftasei sta xeria toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy. Qa yparjoyn energeies gia tyxon katalogismo eyqynwn;

ANTWNAROS: To porisma sto opoio anafereste, ereyna akribws tis eyqynes poy endexetai na exoyn ajiwmatikoi kai ypajiwmatikoi, oson afora thn kaqysterhsh sthn enhmerwsh. Den anaferetai se politikes eyqynes.

PALAIOLOGOS: Milaw kai gia stratiwtikes eyqynes.

ANTWNAROS: Opoy yparxoyn eyqynes mesa sto plegma ayto, asfalws kai qa apodoqoyn. Gi` ayto to logo ginontai kai oi EDE.

LEONTITSH: Sxetika me tis kameres, elhje h adeia poy eixe dwsei h Arxh Prostasias Dedomenwn sthn Kybernhsh gia th leitoyrgia toys. Protiqetai h Kybernhsh na aithqei thn epanaleitoyrgia toys kai akribws opws einai aytes oi ejeligmenes kameres, poy exoyn mikrofwna kai dynatothta zoym, na parameinoyn; Poia qa einai h protash ths Kybernhshs pros thn Arxh Prostasias Dedomenwn;

ANTWNAROS: Qa enhmerwqeite tis epomenes hmeres.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Paylopoylos otan h prohgoymenh Kybernhsh den proselambane toys epilaxontes toy diagwnismoy toy ASEP, ekane logo gia analghth kybernhsh kai eixe kathgorhsei ton k. Skandalidh. Twra poy kai eseis den toys proslambanete, na ypoqesoyme oti aytoi oi xarakthrismoi prosomoiazoyn kai sth dikh sas kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Se poio diagwnismo anafereste;

SIDERHS: Toy 1998.

ANTWNAROS: Opws gnwrizete, orismenoi epilaxontes apo to diagwnismo toy 1998, eixan katafygei sto Symboylio Epikrateias, to opoio toys dikaiwse prin apo dyo peripoy ebdomades. Molis elabe o k. Paylopoylos thn apofash toy StE, hrqe se epafh me ton Proedro toy ASEP kai edwse tis entoles poy xreiazontai, wste na doqei h pio ikanopoihtikh lysh sto qema.

SIDERHS: Mia einai h lysh. Kathgoroysate thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh oti einai analghth kai den toys proslambanei@

ANTWNAROS: Kai sas eipa oti ayto egine prin apo deka hmeres.

SIDERHS: Giati den desmeyetai oti qa toys proslabei gia na teleiwnei;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti den einai apofash toy k. Paylopoyloy. Ekane oles ekeines tis energeies poy problepontai apo to nomo, wste na dikaiwqoyn osoi katefygan sta dikasthria kai oxi mono aytoi, alla kai alloi poy den katefygan.

GALIATSATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ayrio dhmosieyetai h apofash ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs poy afora thn entajiakh hmeromhnia ths Toyrkias. Anejarthta apo to apotelesma ayto, polles eyrwpaikes xwres, opws h Gallia dia toy Proedroy ths k. Sirak, exoyn dhlwsei oti se periptwsh poy einai qetikh h apofash ths Epitrophs apenanti sthn hmeromhnia kai telika to Symboylio apofasisei, qa pane se teliko dhmochfisma apo toys laoys toys gia na egkrinoyn thn entajh ths Toyrkias. Protiqetai h Kybernhsh na dwsei kai stoys Ellhnes polites th dynatothta, opws oi alles xwres ths E.E., na apofasisoyn se ena dhmochfisma gia thn entajh ths Toyrkias;

ANTWNAROS: H Ellada sthrizei thn eyrwpaikh prooptikh ths Toyrkias. Qa perimenoyme mexri ayrio na doyme thn oloklhrwmenh protash poy qa kanei h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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