Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-09-07

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Aqhna, 7 Septembrioy 2004

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Ayth thn wra exei synergasia, sto Megaro Majimoy, me to Grammatea toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Baggelh Meimarakh.

Ayrio, stis 9.30 to prwi, qa synanthqei, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton prwhn Proedro ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Miltiadh Ebert. Stis 10.30, qa exei synanthsh me to proedreio ths PASEGES, stis 11.30 me to proedreio ths Eqnikhs Synomospondias Ellhnikoy Emporioy (ESEE) kai stis 12.30, qa metabei sto ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, prokeimenoy na labei meros sth synedriash toy Syntonistikoy Symboylioy Olympiakhs Asfaleias, opoy qa ginei apologismos se qemata poy aforoyn sthn asfaleia gia thn periodo twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn kai thn proetoimasia gia thn periodo twn Paraolympiakwn Agwnwn.

Oloklhrwqhke, prin apo ligo h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Opws gnwrizete, exoyn hdh ginei anakoinwseis kai synexizetai h proergasia gia thn metaolympiakh xrhsh twn akinhtwn.

Shmera sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph egine mia eyryterh syzhthsh, katopin eishghsews toy ypoyrgoy Anaptyjhs k. Dhmhtrh Sioyfa, me qema ``Anaptyjh kai olympiaka kekthmena''.

H prospaqeia ths kybernhshs einai na ajiopoihsei thn empeiria poy apokthqhke sthn proolympiakh kai thn olympiakh periodo.

Stoys tomeis aytoys perilambanetai h apasxolhsh, to periballon, h poiothta zwhs, o eqelontismos, o aqlhtismos, oi metaolympiakes xrhseis egkatastasewn kai Meswn Metaforas, o toyrismos, oi olympiakes poleis kai o tropos poy leitoyrghsan, kaqws kai to Olympiako Xwrio, ws protypos oikismos.

Oi protaseis poy qa aforoyn toys anwterw tomeis prepei na exoyn mia prooptikh ajiopoihshs toy olympiakoy kekthmenoy, me thn ennoia oti ola osa synebhsan kai biwqhkan se ayth thn periodo den prepei na apotelesoyn olympiakh parenqesh, alla ena neo shmeio afethrias.

H empeiria, hdh, einai poly megalh. To klima dieqnws einai idiaiterws qetiko gia th xwra mas kai ayto to klima qa prepei na ajiopoihqei se oloys toys tomeis, eite einai ston Toyrismo, eite einai stis ependyseis, eite sthn idia thn kaqhmerinothta mas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, poso piqano qewrei h kybernhsh to endexomeno na exoyme prowres ekloges thn anoijh; Kai to rwtw dioti, se megalo baqmo, qa kriqei apo thn protash ths gia thn Proedria ths Dhmokratias.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To ellhniko Syntagma, to opoio efarmozetai 30 xronia, apanta se ola ayta ta erwthmata.

XIWTHS: An epekteinw thn apanthsh sas, moy lete oti sxedon apokleiete na exoyme prowres ekloges, dioti to Syntagma mexri twra ayth th lysh exei prokrinei, plhn omws@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas lew ti problepei to Syntagma.

GKOYTZANHS: To Syntagma ta afhnei ola anoikta, apo o,ti jerw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To Syntagma kaqorizei safws ti ginetai se aytes tis periptwseis. To mono poy mporw, epipleon, na symplhrwsw einai oti to pneyma toy Syntagmatos toy 1975 epidiwkei thn eyryterh dynath synainesh twn politikwn kommatwn sto proswpo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias.

XIWTHS: H kybernhsh epaneilhmmena exei tonisei oti h syzhthsh ayth einai prowrh. Wstoso, ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs ayths, koryfaia stelexh ths poy molis ejhlqan apo thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph synexizoyn na synthroyn to qema, perigrafontas kai to profil toy ypochfioy poy qa prepei na proteinei h Nea Dhmokratia. Ti apo ta dyo symbainei; Oi ypoyrgoi den exoyn antilhfqei tis proqeseis ths kybernhshs h epishmws h kybernhsh dhlwnei kati gia to opoio oi ypoyrgoi den symfwnoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akoysa tis erwthseis, oi opoies eginan stoys ypoyrgoys kai tis apanthseis toys. Den prokyptei to idio sxolio me ayto poy kanete eseis.

XIWTHS: Me sygxwreite poly. H ypoyrgos Paideias dhlwse oti o Proedros prepei na einai ths megalyterhs dynaths eyryteras apodoxhs. Den apanthse se kapoia erwthsh. Ayto htan to sxolio ths.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas eipa kai prohgoymenws o,ti problepei to Syntagma.

XIWTHS: Na eikasoyme, synepws, oti o ypochfios poy qa protaqei apo th Nea Dhmokratia den qa proerxetai apo toys kolpoys ths, giati den mporw na fantastw ypochfio apo th Nea Dhmokratia poy na qewreitai eyryterhs apodoxhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw, hdh, dwsei apanthseis se ola ta qemata. Einai prowro na syzhthsoyme to qema toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias.

TAKHS: Gia na mhn yparxoyn, loipon, oi dhlwseis twn ypoyrgwn ejw apo to Majimoy kai na prokaloyn kai tis dikes mas@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati na mhn yparxoyn dhlwseis ypoyrgwn;

TAKHS: Oxi, oson afora to sygkekrimeno qema kai na prokaloyn kai tis dikes mas apanthseis, mhpws o Prwqypoyrgos protiqetai sthn Ekqesh Qessalonikhs na kleisei to qema me mia dhlwsh toy kai na stamathsei ayth h prowrh proedrologia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ean o Prwqypoyrgos erwthqei sth Qessalonikh, qa apanthsei, opws allwste apanta se oles tis erwthseis.

TAKHS: Exei thn proqesh na to kleisei, giati blepoyme diafora dhmosieymata oti yparxei kai enoxlhsh apo (den akoygetai).

ROYSOPOYLOS: An eiste ekei, qa kanete thn erwthsh kai qa parete apanthsh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: To endexomeno ypochfiothtas toy k. Shmith, opws proteine xqes kai o k. Skandalidhs, to ejetazei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Isxyei h prohgoymenh apanthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: H kybernhsh bolidoskopei tis diaqeseis ths koinhs gnwmhs @na thn kanw pio sygkekrimenh thn erwthsh- exei sta xeria ths gkalop ths koinhs gnwmhs h exei proanaggeilei tetoies ereynes, prokeimenoy na ejetasei poio qa einai to piqano profil toy ypochfioy, to opoio mporei na einai apodekto apo thn koinh gnwmh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan leme oti einai prowro, ennooyme oti einai prowro gia oloys.

POYLIDOY: Hqela na sas rwthsw to ejhs: To brady twn epeisodiwn, meta to mats, eginan ejh syllhceis Ellhnwn kai o apologismos dinei 40 traymaties Albanwn, ena nekro Albano kai treis traymaties Ellhnes. Den yparxei mia dysarmonia anamesa stis syllhceis kai toys traymatismoys. Dhladh, den synelhfqh oyte enas Ellhnas, otan mprosta sthn Astynomia espagan aytokinhta me albanikes pinakides, ekaigan albanikes shmaies;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eginan syllhceis, perifereiaka se memonwmenes symplokes, tis opoies h Astynomia katafere na apotrecei stis perissoteres twn periptwsewn.

POYLIDOY: Oyte enan Ellhna, apo o,ti exoyme dei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den protiqemai na kanw sxolia gia to poioi synelhfqhsan. Synelhfqhsan aytoi, oi opoioi htan prwtagwnistes epeisodiwn.

POYLIDOY: Ereyna gia thn antimetwpish ths Astynomias jerete an exei diatajei to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den exw kamia tetoia plhroforia. Den yparxei kamia epishmh kataggelia gia opoiodhpote problhma. An yparjei kataggelia, bebaiws, qa ginei ereyna.

GKOYTZANHS: Ereyna gia th symmetoxh ths gnwsths organwshs ``Xryshs Ayghs'' sta epeisodia exei ginei h apasxolei thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H Ellhnikh Astynomia prospaqei na apotrepei ta epeisodia kai syllambanei prwtagwnistes epeisodiwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh th dhlwsh toy Ferxogken sthn Toyrkia, oti h anagnwrish ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias apo thn Toyrkia den apotelei oro gia thn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias. Einai mia jekaqarh qesh ths E.E. poy dhmioyrgei nea dedomena.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai gnwsth h qesh ths Elladas, oson afora to qema ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs ths Toyrkias. To Eyrwpaiko Symboylio, to perasmeno Ioynio, kalese thn Toyrkia na proxwrhsei stis symfwnies ths telwneiakhs enwshs, kalyptontas ola ta krath melh ths E.E., symperilambanomenhs kai ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epomenws, h dhlwsh Ferxoigken den exei kamia shmasia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei apofash toy Symboylioy.

SIDERHS: Proeklogika, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe pei ta olohmera sxoleia ``parkingk maqhtwn''. Gi@ ayto to skopo, profanws, den stelnete akomh kaqhghtes kai ap@ oti fainetai qa arghsoyn na staloyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanete megalo laqos.

SIDERHS: Leipoyn toylaxiston 7.500 kaqhghtes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na tonisw oti, gia prwth fora, exoyn stalei hdh ta biblia, edw kai dyo ebdomades, sta sxoleia, enw palaiotera ta biblia efqanan telos Septembrioy, akoma kai Oktwbrio h Noembrio. Einai mia megalh allagh, h opoia syntelesthke se poly syntomo xroniko diasthma. Osa kena diapistwqoyn, qa symplhrwqoyn grhgora apo anaplhrwtes kaqhghtes. Qa hqela na sas pw kati poy epeshmane kai h armodia ypoyrgos ka Giannakoy, xqes: Oi anaplhrwtes kaqhghtes einai se lista proteraiothtas. H kybernhsh protiqetai na orisei @kai ayto einai aithma kai ths OLME kai ths DOE- Epitroph Diafaneias poy qa elegxei thn thrhsh ths listas. Oi kenes qeseis kaqhghtwn qa kalyptontai apo th lista twn anaplhrwtwn kaqhghtwn kai oxi apo wromisqioys, opws ginotan mexri twra, kata parabash kaqe proteraiothtas kai kat@ epiloghn, opoy hqele o kaqe ypoyrgos. Exoyme na kanoyme, loipon, me ena entelws neo systhma ajiokratikhs epiloghs, me th symmetoxh kai th qelhsh -opws ayth eixe diatypwqei- twn armodiwn syndikalistikwn organwsewn, ths OLME kai ths DOE.

XIWTHS: An einai etsi, poy apodidete olh ayth thn anataraxh poy exei jespasei sto xwro ths Paideias, ektos an den thn anagnwrizete kai sthn opoia symmetexoyn kai kommatika stelexh ths N.D. Den dexontai ayta ta stelexh ta bhmata proodoy poy eseis anaferete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai poly genikh h erwthsh sas. Mporeite na thn ejeidikeysete;

XIWTHS: Kat@ arxhn dexetai h kybernhsh oti yparxei mia anataraxh sto xwro ths Paideias, mia ebdomada prin jekinhsei h sxolikh xronia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Otan lete ``anataraxh'' ti ennoeite;

XIWTHS: Thn perasmenh ebdomada eixame epeisodia, akoma kai ston proqalamo ths ypoyrgoy, shmera diabazoyme stis efhmerides oti mia oloklhrh nomarxiakh epitroph ths N.D. sth Lesbo exei paraithqei kai epipleon fqanoyn stis efhmerides diafores diamartyries kai parapona oti h sxolikh xronia den jekina me toys kalyteroys oiwnoys.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H teleytaia parathrhsh einai poly genikh. Molis sas periegraca giati jekiname to neo sxoliko etos me toys kalyteroys oiwnoys, me apofaseis poy den eixan lhfqei sto parelqon. Sas eipa xarakthristika gia thn egkairh apostolh twn sxolikwn bibliwn. Peran aytoy, kaqenas eite einai syndikalisths eite oxi, exei to dikaiwma na ekfrazei dhmosia thn apoch toy. Se kaqe dhmokratikh xwra h eleyqeria ths gnwmhs einai sebasth. Qelw na shmeiwsw, edw, thn antifash poy yparxei ton teleytaio kairo se kathgories kai apo thn antipoliteysh, gia to ean ``ta dika mas'' h ``ta dika toys'' paidia @ennoia thn opoia emeis den apodexomaste- metexoyn h den metexoyn ston kratiko mhxanismo. Otan yposxeqhkame epanidrysh toy kratoys, o Kwstas Karamanlhs kai ws arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs tote, alla kai ws Prwqypoyrgos sth synexeia, stis programmatikes dhlwseis poy ekane sth Boylh, milhse gia ajiokratika krithria. Eipe oti den perisseyei kanenas ajios. Oi antidraseis stis opoies anafereste, apodeiknyoyn akribws oti ayth h kybernhsh den kinhqhke me kommatika krithria stis epiloges poy ekane sto ypoyrgeio Paideias.

XONDROS: Ma, oi antidraseis sth Lesbo eginan gia kommatiko stelexos. Den htan gia stelexos alloy kommatos. Yphrje paraithsh ths Epitrophs ths Neas Dhmokratias giati den toys arese o ekei ekproswpos poy htan epishs ths Neas Dhmokratias. Milame gia problhma mesa sth Nea Dhmokratia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Anaferqhka se ektenh dhmosieymata kai se dhlwseis ths antipoliteyshs, oi opoies epekrinan thn kybernhsh gia tis epiloges ths. Kai eipa oti gia tis epiloges aytes yphrjan antidraseis, kriseis kai epikriseis, se orismenes periptwseis, kai apo kommatika stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Ayto apodeiknyei oti h ka Giannakoy ekane poly kala th doyleia ths.

XIWTHS: Ayto apodeiknyei, epishs, oti oi epiloges poy kanei h kybernhsh to xwro ths ekpaideyshs den ginontai apodektes apo syndikalistes twn dyo megalyterwn kommatwn. Ayto den apasxolei thn kybernhsh, oti piqanws den kineitai sth swsth kateyqynsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto poy apasxolei thn kybernhsh einai na epilegontai me ajiokratika krithria stis qeseis toy Dhmosioy oi ajioteroi kai ayto apedeixqh sto ypoyrgeio Paideias.

GKOYTZANHS: Meta thn epimonh toy k. Cwmiadh stis gnwstes apoceis toy peri ``miasmatwn'', ejakoloyqei na einai stelexos ths N.D. kai oi apoceis poy ekfrazei xwrane sth N.D.;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To erwthma exei apanthqei apo xqes.

GKOYTZANHS: Nai, alla o k. Cwmiadhs epanhlqe kai shmera kai xqes.

ROYSOPOYLOS: O anaplhrwths kybernhtikos ekproswpos apanthse xqes gia to an yioqetei h aporriptei h kybernhsh qeseis, oi opoies den tairiazoyn me th logikh, thn opoia o idios o Prwqypoyrgos exei perigracei. Kaqe ena apo ta politika stelexh, eite einai boyleyths, nomarxhs h dhmarxos, exei dikaiwma na ekfrazei tis proswpikes apoceis toy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Akomh ki an einai toso akraies;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sth Dhmokratia epitrepontai oles oi apoceis, den apagoreyetai kamia. Ean apagoreyetai, tote den einai Dhmokratia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dikaiologeitai to gegonos apo th stigmh poy h N.D. eyaggelizetai oti einai komma toy mesaioy xwroy, na diatypwnontai kai na diakinoyntai, malista, tetoies apoceis -kai malista kata syrroh- apo thn pleyra toy k. Cwmiadh sto xwro ths; O k. Cwmiadhs to exei pei ayto gia ta ``miasmata'' se ola ta thleoptika kanalia.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa qelate na kanete pio sygkekrimenh thn erwthsh.

PALAIOLOGOS: Lew, pws einai dynato ena komma toy mesaioy xwroy, opws einai h N.D. kai h kybernhsh, na dikaiologei akraies apoceis, opws aytes peri ``miasmatwn'' poy tis yposthrizei enas anqrwpos ths kai malista eklegmenos nomarxhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Xqes kai shmera labate safh apanthsh, gia thn kybernhtikh apoch.

PALAIOLOGOS: Emeis mporei na phrame, o k. Cwmiadhs endexomenws den to exei katanohsei ayto.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia to ean yioqetei h kybernhsh tis apoceis toy k. Cwmiadh htan h apanthsh.

GKOYTZANHS: Profanws kai o k. Cwmiadhs den yioqetei tis apoceis ths kybernhshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporeite na kanete opoio sxolio qelete.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epimenw sto gegonos, epeidh epimenei kai o k. Cwmiadhs. Emeis mporei na pairnoyme thn apanthsh sas, alla@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kala kanete kai epimenete. H kybernhsh, epishs, epimenei se ayto poy sas eipa. Ara, emmenoyme o kaqenas sth qesh toy.

XATZIA: Meqayrio, pisteyw oti qa doyme ton Prwqypoyrgo kai dipla toy ton k. Cwmiadh. Ti qa apantoysate stoys Albanoys metanastes-ergates poy zoyn sth Nomarxia toy k. Cwmiadh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O k. Cwmiadhs einai eklegmenos Nomarxhs Qessalonikhs me pososto panw apo 50%.

XATZIA: Xqes, to meshmeri o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Albanias eixe kalesei ton Ellhna presbh sthn Albania k. Karkampash sto grafeio toy. Yphrxe kapoia politikh antidrash apo pleyras Albanias pros thn Ellada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

XATZIA: Yparxei kapoia proklhsh pros ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Albanias ek meroys ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, aytes tis hmeres gia synanthsh entos toy mhnos sthn Ellada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta qemata ayta ta xeirizetai to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

XATZIA: Oi albanikes efhmerides shmera kai xqes katakrinoyn th xamhlh stash toy Albanoy Prwqypoyrgoy Fatos Nano, apenanti sta gegonota. Qa hqela na rwthsw, yphrje kapoia thlefwnikh epikoinwnia metajy toy Albanoy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy k. Karamanlh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia. Ekeino poy qelw na shmeiwsw einai oti h sympnoia metajy twn dyo lawn prepei na einai o apolytos stoxos. Eimaste geitones kai prepei na zhsoyme eirhnika kai armonika. Memonwmena peristatika, ta opoia einai katadikastea kai apo tis dyo pleyres, den prepei na diatarajoyn tis kales sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn.

XATZIA: Pisteyete oti ola ta ellhnika kai albanika MME qa prepei na kratoyn xamhloys tonoys se ayth thn periptwsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta MME eleyqera askoyn to dhmosiografiko leitoyrghma toys.

XIWTHS: Sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh perilambanetai episkech sth Nomarxia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy qa sas anakoinwqei prosexws.

TRIGKAS: O k. Cwmiadhs einai kai stelexos ths N.D. ektos apo eklegmenos Nomarxhs me pososto megalytero toy 50%. Qa yparjoyn peiqarxikes kyrwseis apo to komma ths N.D. gia tis apoceis toy k. Cwmiadh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia qemata kommatikhs leitoyrgias, parakalw apeyqynqeite sto komma.

LEONTITSH: Kata th xqesinh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me to Syndesmo Biomhxanwn Boreioy Elladas, eleipe o ypoyrgos Makedonias-Qrakhs k. Tsiartswnhs. Kai malista kata thn ejodo toy o ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs k. Sioyfas eipe oti proteraiothta ths kybernhshs apotelei h Perifereia kai kyriws h Qessalonikh. Poios htan, loipon, o logos poy apoysiaze o armodios ypoyrgos Makedonias-Qrakhs, otan eiqistai na einai parwn kai malista enocei ths DEQ;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw. (O armodios ypoyrgos k. Tsiartswnhs brisketai sth Qessalonikh, opoy exei synanthseis me foreis twn paragwgikwn tajewn kai proetoimazei thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Qa metexei de se oles tis epafes toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys foreis.)

Sas eyxaristw.

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