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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 30 Ioynioy 2004

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

O Prwqypoyrgos eixe shmera diadoxikes synergasies, stis 10.30 me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Giwrgo Alogoskoyfh, stis 11.15 me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs Prokoph Paylopoylo kai stis 12 to meshmeri me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Petro Molybiath.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo PEXWDE Giwrgo Soyflia. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias Kwnstantino Stefanopoylo, prokeimenoy na ton enhmerwsei gia tis apofaseis ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO kai toy ektaktoy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy. Sth 1 meta to meshmeri, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs Dhmhtrh Sioyfa.

Shmera to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos apesteile epistolh ston tews prwqypoyrgo Kwsta Shmith sthn opoia anaferei ta ejhs:

``Kyrion Kwnstantino Shmith

prwhn Prwqypoyrgo

Entayqa

Agaphte, kyrie Shmith

Anaforika me thn epistolh sas ths 26hs Ioynioy 2004, qa hqela na gnwrizete oti, toso kata tis dimereis epafes me Eyrwpaioys hgetes sthn Kwnstantinoypolh kai tis Bryjelles, oso kai kata to xqesino Eyrwpaiko Symboylio, eixa thn eykairia na epixeirhmatologhsw yper ths endiaferoysas protashs sas.

Sth sxetikh syzhthsh sto Symboylio, meta th dikh moy topoqethsh, ekfrasthkan kat` arxhn qetika kai alloi apo toys symmetexontes. H de oristikh antimetwpish toy qematos apofasisthke na ginei prosexws apo thn ollandikh proedria.''

Ypenqymizetai oti xqes to brady ekdoqhke anakoinwsh-apanthsh se sxetikh erwthsh, oti o k. Shmiths eixe aposteilei epistolh ston Prwqypoyrgo, thn perasmenh ebdomada.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

POYLIDOY: Ws pros to teleytaio, hqela na sas rwthsw oti parathrhsa th seira twn gegonotwn xqes kai o Prwqypoyrgos ekane kapoies dhlwseis me th lhjh toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, opoy den anaferqhke kaqoloy sto qema Shmith. Kai afoy gnwstopoihqhke to qema apo toys antapokrites stis Bryjelles, bghke h dikh sas anakoinwsh. Giati egine aytos o xeirismos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos qewrhse oti qa htan swstotero na enhmerwsei, me epistolh toy, prwta ton k. Shmith kai en synexeia na ginei dhmosia anakoinwsh.

SOYGLERHS: Poy krinetai h piqanothta na doyme ton k. Shmith se kapoio posto sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio oxi. Den yparxei tetoia skech. H skech, h idea einai na ginei mia epitroph me proswpikothtes apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh @den exei oristei oyte o akribhs ariqmos, oyte poios qa syntonizei ayth thn epitroph- h opoia sta epomena dyo xronia qa analabei to rolo ths prowqhshs ths neas Syntagmatikhs Synqhkhs ths E.E.. Opws gnwrizete, xreiazetai na ginei prowqhsh se oles tis xwres. Se orismenes periptwseis h Syntagmatikh Synqhkh prepei na egkriqei apo ta eqnika Koinoboylia kai se alles periptwseis qa diejaxqoyn dhmochfismata.

TAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, pote blepete ayth h epitroph na pairnei ``sarka kai osta'' kai pote qa epilegoyn ayta ta tria proswpa poy qa thn apartizoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws sas eipa, h ollandikh proedria qa analabei pia na ferei to qema se syzhthsh. Den exei anakoinwqei to pote. Qa anakoinwqei apo thn ollandikh proedria, afoy prwta ginei syzhthsh sto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn kai sth synexeia, kapoia stigmh, fantazomai qa perasei kai apo to Symboylio Koryfhs.

SIDERHS: Niwqei ekteqeimenos o Prwqypoyrgos apo ton ypoyrgo Amynas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den yparxei kati tetoio. Moy dinete thn eykairia na pw -kati poy exei hdh eipwqei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo- kai qa to epanalabw gia allh mia fora: Den yparxei oydemia allagh, oyte sthn eqnikh strathgikh, oyte stis qeseis ths kybernhshs gia ta qemata poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas ton teleytaio kairo. Gia thn kybernhsh to qema exei kleisei.

SIDERHS: Symfwnoi. Alla tiqetai qema ajiopistias toy k. ypoyrgoy, giati, an den kanw laqos, den hmoyn mprosta, alla etsi metadoqhke, o k. Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti o k. ypoyrgos ekane diaceysh. Omws, o k. ypoyrgos ceytika ekane th diaceysh, afoy ta eixe pei ayta, opws apedeixqh apo to apomagnhtofwnhmeno keimeno. Ara, anagkase ton Prwqypoyrgo na pei cemata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa hmoyn pio prosektikos stis ektimhseis moy. Bebaiws, den einai h qesh moy na proteinw tropoys ypobolhs erwthsewn, wstoso einai baria h kathgoria thn opoia apeyqynete ston ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas. Qa meinw sth dhlwsh toy, h opoia safws jekaqarizei oti oydepote eipwqhkan tetoia pragmata kai oti parapoihqhkan oi dhlwseis toy.

KARAMPASHS: Gia thn kybernhsh, dhladh, den yparxei qema ypoyrgoy Amynas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei kanena apolytws qema.

KARAMPASHS: Epeidh, shmera, exei dhmioyrghqei ena qema me thn AEK, me th dikastikh apofash h opoia exei dhmioyrghsei ena oloklhro qema, poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs, giati nomizoyme oti yparxei synexeia sthn Politeia. Exoyn xaristei xreh apo tis prohgoymenes kybernhseis dyo-treis fores. Pws skopeyei na to antimetwpisei h kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto to qema exei kanei, hdh, ekteneis dhlwseis o armodios yfypoyrgos Giwrgos Orfanos. Sas parapempw se aytes.

BITALHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa epanelqw sto qema poy exei dhmioyrghqei apo tis feromenes h oxi dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas Sphlioy Sphliwtopoyloy. Eipate kai prohgoymenws kai akoysame kai ton Prwqypoyrgo na leei oti den yparxei kamia allagh sthn eqnikh strathgikh. Qelw na rwthsw kati para poly sygkekrimeno: Epeidh, plhrws antilambaneste oti olos o problhmatismos kai oi aitiaseis poy anaptyxqhkan htan gyrw apo thn ekfrash gia ta 10 milia ston enaerio xwro, se ayth, loipon, th dikh sas epishmansh poy kanete kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ennoeite oti ta 10 milia enaerios xwros einai mia adiapragmateyth qesh ths Elladas; Gia na eimaste jekaqaroi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa. Den yparxei kamia allagh.

XIWTHS: Se o,ti afora to qema toy k. Shmith, qa hqela na gnwrizw an o k. Shmiths esteile epistolh mono ston Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo h kai stoys 25 hgetes ths E.E.. Deyteron, qa hqela na jerw ean h kybernhsh yposthrizei thn ypochfiothta toy k. Shmith ws melos ths epitrophs h ws syntonisth ayths ths epitrophs.

POYLIDOY: Kai poioi alloi einai se ayth thn epitroph, ean jerete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayto poy mporw na sas pw einai oti o k. Shmiths esteile epistolh ston Prwqypoyrgo kai exei steilei epistolh kai ston proedreyonta toy Symboylioy, ton k. @Axern. Den gnwrizw an exei steilei alles epistoles. Den eimai se qesh na to gnwrizw. Sto deytero qema poy eipate, h syzhthsh poy egine xqes exei ws ejhs: Efere to qema sto Symboylio o k. @Axern, amesws meta zhthse kai phre to logo o Prwqypoyrgos, o opoios dhlwse enqermos yposthrikths ths ideas kai akoloyqhse syzhthsh, poly syntomh, sthn opoia h apofash poy elhfqh einai na parapemfqei to qema sthn Ollandikh Proedria kai ekei pia, oristika, na lhfqoyn apofaseis.

XIWTHS: @Ara, h protash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs yposthrizei kat` arxhn thn idea, den egine syzhthsh akomh gia proswpa kai kat` epektash gia ton k. Shmith.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, egine. Sas to eipa.

XIWTHS: Tote, h ellhnikh kybernhsh yposthrizei thn ypochfiothta toy k. Shmith gia th qesh toy syntonisth h ayto to afhnei sth diakritikh eyxereia twn diaboyleysewn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Prwton, den yparxei tipote sygkekrimeno. Yparxei mia idea, thn opoia briskoyme poly endiaferoysa kai thn yposthrizoyme. Deyteron, antilambaneste oti isxyei ayto poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos: Gia opoiondhpote Ellhna, se kapoia qesh sthn E.E., h qesh ths kybernhshs einai qetikh.

XIWTHS: Ektos ths antallaghs twn epistolwn, yphrje kapoia alloy eidoys epikoinwnia metajy Prwqypoyrgoy kai k. Shmith;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

TAKHS: Mhpws prokeitai na yparjei sto mellon, giati me epistoles, kapoia stigmh endexomenws, prepei na ta poyn kai kat` idian gia na syzhthsoyn kai kapoies leptomereies; Mhpws yparxei sthn atzenta kapoia synanthsh twn dyo andrwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei kapoia synanthsh twra. Efoson proxwrhsei ayth h idea, h opoia emeis qeloyme na proxwrhsei, bebaiws kai qa ginei.

POYLIDOY: Sthn protash yphrxan kai onomata;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi.

SOYRMELIDHS: O Prwqypoyrgos gnwrizei thn protash toy k. Sphliwtopoyloy se o,ti afora thn aposyrsh pyraylwn apo thn Imbro;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia prospaqeia na aposyrqoyn epiqetika opla apo diafores perioxes sta paralia.

SOYRMELIDHS: Ayto shmainei kai apo th Lhmno, se mas;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Emeis den exoyme epiqetika opla ekei, exoyme mono amyntika. Einai dyo teleiws diaforetika pragmata.

SOYRMELIDHS: Shmainei, estw, aposyrsh kapoiwn oplwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H amyna mias xwras einai oxi aplws dikaiwma, alla kai ierh ypoxrewsh ths.

SOYRMELIDHS: Poia einai h qesh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth syzhthsh poy egine gia ton Mparozo; Ti yposthrixqhke apo ellhnikhs pleyras;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yper ths ypochfiothtas toy k. Mparozo. Gnwrizete oti me ton k. Mparozo yparxei mia poly kalh filikh sxesh. Yparxei poly kalh sxesh twn dyo xwrwn. Ektimoyme oti qa bohqhsei idiaitera xwres ths Mesogeioy. O idios, allwste, exei terastia empeiria, oson afora ta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyn aytes oi xwres. Einai koina ta problhmata kai ths dikhs toy kai ths dikhs mas xwras.

SOYGLERHS: Apo tis ayrianes synanthseis bgainei kati jexwristo h einai sth synhqh enhmerwsh twn ypoyrgwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws exw pei kai alles fores, o Prwqypoyrgos synergazetai synexws me toys ypoyrgoys toy. Gia ton Prwqypoyrgo den apotelei eidhsh ayth h synergasia. Einai sto plaisio twn kaqhkontwn toy.

MPOILE: Yparxei mia erwthsh toy k. Kaxrimakh sth Boylh poy apeyqynetai se sas, oti topoqethqhke sth Genikh Grammateia Ejoplismwn enas synergaths ths xoyntas, o k. Kwnstantinos Qwmas, an qymamai kala to onoma toy@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se mena proswpika apeyqynetai;

TAKHS: Nai, se sas. Leei oti htan basanisths toy Alejandroy Panagoylh kai sas kalei na parete qesh, an ontws symbainei ayto. Epishs, leei oti exei allajei kai to onoma toy@ Katateqhke prin apo pente lepta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw to qema kai aporw pws apeyqynetai se mena. Den einai sth dikh moy armodiothta ayth h Grammateia, wstoso qa to ereynhsw kai qa sas apanthsw.

ZOYLAS: Qa dwsete thn epistolh toy k. Shmith sth dhmosiothta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Ean qelei o k. Shmiths, mporei na to kanei.

ZOYLAS: Na rwthsw, tote, kati epi ths oysias: O k. Shmiths proteine ston k. Karamanlh na qesei o idios to qema, dhladh o k. Karamanlhs na to xeiristei se kaqe periptwsh to qema ayto h perimene ton proedreyonta, gia na synainesei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai mia idea toy k. Shmith. Kata synepeia den mporei na perimenei kaneis na egerqei apo kapoio allo proswpo mia idea poy den einai dikh toy, den thn jerei. Otan, omws, th diabase, th brhke poly endiaferoysa kai thn yposthrije. Sas qymizw th xqesinh anakoinwsh. Yparxei anafora gia tis syzhthseis poy eginan sto periqwrio twn synanthsewn kai sthn Kwnstantinoypolh kai stis Bryjelles. Dhladh, o Prwqypoyrgos synomilhse me arketoys apo toys Eyrwpaioys hgetes gi` ayth thn idea, gia na diapistwsei ean einai qetikoi kai oi idioi.

SOYRMELIDHS: Einai qetikoi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai, yparxei endiaferon.

XIWTHS: O Prwqypoyrgos protiqetai na enhmerwsei ta kommata gia thn ypochfiothta toy k. Shmith; Einai ena eqniko qema, qa to elega. Den jerw an exei thn proqesh h kybernhsh na enhmerwsei ton arxhgo ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs h an qa ton afhsei na plhroforeitai aytoy toy eidoys th synergasia apo tis efhmerides.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Fantazomai oti qa exei enhmerwqei apo ton k. Shmith. Den to jerw. H kybernhsh exei kanei dhmosia gnwsth th qesh ths me tis anakoinwseis ths kai xqes to brady kai shmera.

XIWTHS: Den exete thn proqesh na prokalesete enan kyklo enhmerwtikwn epafwn me ta kommata;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Brhkame endiaferoysa thn idea kai thn prowqoyme. Den akoysa kapoion na einai antiqetos. Den einai ena meizon eqniko qema gia na enhmerwsoyme ta kommata. Gia meizona eqnika qemata, allwste, sto parelqon h kybernhsh exei enhmerwsei me dikh ths prwtoboylia th Boylh. Sas qymizw kai th syzhthsh sto Proedriko Megaro gia to Kypriako.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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