Greek Government Press Briefing, 04-02-03

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 3 Febroyarioy 2004

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI

KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qa hqela, eisagwgika, an kai den exei oloklhrwqei h paroysiash toy oikonomikoy programmatos ths Neas Dhmokratias, na kanw ena prwto sxolio. Qa yparjoyn, bebaiws, kai oloklhrwmenes topoqethseis sth synexeia apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys.

Prwton, yparxei mia terastia antifash sth N.D.. Mexri twra, o k. Karamanlhs elege oti h oikonomia mas einai gkriza, katestrammenh kai oti ta pragmata einai mayra. Twra, prospaqei, profanws mesa sto agxos kai thn agwnia toy, na proxwrhsei se paroxes. Ara, anagnwrizei oti h oikonomia exei aytes tis dynatothtes. Ara, anagnwrizei th shmantikh doyleia poy exei ginei sto oikonomiko pedio.

Deyteron, yparxei mia seira epimeroys parembasewn poy exoyn kanei oi ypeyqynoi ths N.D. gyrw apo orismena qemata. To prwto kai kyrio einai h emmonh ths N.D. sthn aparadekth kai katadikasmenh sth syneidhsh twn politwn, asfalistikh metarryqmish ths periodoy @90-@93, me to legomeno ``nomo Sioyfa''. Opws qa qymaste, me ekeino ton asfalistiko nomo eixan perikopei basika dikaiwmata twn ergazomenwn. Yphrxe h antilhch oti oi ergazomenoi kai oi syntajioyxoi kaloyntai na shkwsoyn olo to baros gia to asfalistiko systhma. Me ekeino to nomo, h katwterh syntajh eixe prosdioristei gyrw stis 65.000 drx., yphrxe sobarh epibarynsh twn epikoyrikwn syntajewn, twn efapaj kai twn oriwn hlikias. H N.D. emmenei se ena asfalistiko systhma poy qigei ton ergazomeno kai to syntajioyxo. Proanaggellei oti ean erxotan sthn ejoysia, qa epanaferei aytes tis katadikasmenes praktikes. O ellhnikos laos qa to maqei kai qa krinei.

Triton, h N.D. ypainissetai kai apolyseis se orismenoys tomeis. Bebaia den einai safes to keimeno. Diabazw to keimeno gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia kai perimenw apanthsh. H N.D. problepei pwlhsh ths O.A. se idiwtikh etairia kai analhch apo to kratos ths apozhmiwshs toy pleonazontos proswpikoy ths palaias O.A.. Ayto shmainei apolyseis; Ek prwths ocews einai safes. Perimenoyme thn apanthsh toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

Tetarton, shmeiwnw thn prospaqeia epanaforas apocewn gia plhrh ekpoihsh @kai exei shmasia ayto, oyte kan diathrhsh posostwn poy na mporei to kratos na exei ton elegxo h na ephreazei tis apofaseis- poly megalwn epixeirhsewn (opws einai o OTE) kai paradosh se symferonta.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Eiste ikanopoihmenos ws stelexos toy PASOK kai ws ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs, apo th mexri twra proeklogikh ekstrateia toy PASOK;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimai idiaitera ikanopoihmenos apo ta mhnymata poy dinei o Giwrgos Papandreoy, apo tis prospaqeies poy ginontai kai apo th strateysh olwn twn stelexwn mas sthn koinh prospaqeia. Fysika exoyme polla pragmata na kanoyme akomh kai qa ta kanoyme. Na eiste bebaioi gi` ayto.

MIXAHL: Nai, alla ola ta stelexh den ta blepoyme. Gia paradeigma, mexri stigmhs, oyte ton ypeyqyno toy proeklogikoy sas agwna exoyme dei na drasthriopoieitai, oyte ton k. Laliwth, o opoios anakamptei, alla den jeroyme ti qa kanei, oyte blepoyme kapoia alla stelexh na drasthriopoioyntai kai opoy, telos pantwn, exoyn emfanistei parathreitai mia apoklish, oson afora th diatypwsh qesewn h akoma ston tropo poy yperaspizontai to kybernhtiko ergo ths oktaetias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw tetoia eikona. Ola ta stelexh mas dinoyn th maxh. Ola ta stelexh mas metexoyn sthn kentrikh prospaqeia toy eklogikoy agwna. Ola ta stelexh mas paleyoyn gia tis qeseis mas, opoy mporoyn. Kai aytoi poy einai sta chfodeltia, stis perifereies toys. Yparxoyn anafores, dhlwseis, synenteyjeis toys kai antiparaqesh me stelexh ths N.D., kaqws kai synexhs epafh me to lao gia thn yperaspish toy programmatos kai twn qesewn mas. Den yparxei, loipon, tetoio qema.

TAKHS: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia tis xqesines dhmoskophseis poy deixnoyn oti anoigei h calida jana stis tesseris monades kai emfanizoyn th N.D. ws katallhloterh na kybernhsei ton topo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti oles aytes oi dhmoskophseis apoteloyn endeijeis mias sygkyrias. Emeis, omws, twra exoyme perasei ton kabo. Badizoyme mprosta, proxwrame me to Giwrgo Papandreoy kai ayth h prwtognwrh symmetoxikh diadikasia ths erxomenhs Kyriakhs einai ekeinh poy qa mas dwsei th dynamh kai parallhla thn entolh ths koinwnias gia thn telikh nikh.

TAKHS: Den sas anhsyxei to gegonos oti exei anoijei jana h calida kai exei ftasei stis tesseris monades; Qewreite oti qa janakleisei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti yphrje enas ephreasmos apo tis teleytaies ejelijeis. Omws, twra, perasame ton kabo. Den yparxoyn, pia, oi ephreasmoi apo aytes tis ejelijeis. To qema exei kleisei, me th gennaia apofash toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy.

SIDERHS: Lete oti einai endeijeis ths sygkyrias. Otan h calida ekleine, mas eixate pei oti pagiwnetai mia poreia nikhs. Tote, poy sas eynooyse, pagiwnotan poreia nikhs. Twra, apla, einai endeijh sygkyrias. Apla, prospaqhsate na parajete politiko apotelesma tote. Aytodikaiws, dikaioymaste na poyme oti to PASOK apoklinei apo thn ejoysia. Sth dikh sas logikh badizw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den jerw apo poy bgazete ayto to symperasma. Qa eprepe, omws, na prosejete oti kai aytoi oi opoioi profanws ephreasthkan apo thn prosfath istoria toy ``Porto Karas'', den dhlwnoyn oti chfizoyn ena allo komma. Aytos o ephreasmos, poy fanhke ayth thn periodo, profanws jepernietai. Perasame ton kabo. Proxwrame mprosta. H prwtognwrh @kai epimenw se ayto- symmetoxikh diadikasia ths koinwnias thn epomenh Kyriakh, qa dwsei sthn paratajh mas mia apofasistikh wqhsh.

MIXAHL: Yparxei xronos;

PRWTOPAPAS: O politikos xronos, peripoy pente ebdomadwn, einai poly shmantikos. Ejalloy, se oles tis dhmoskophseis katagrafetai mia idiaitera shmantikh yperoxh toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy. Einai aytos ton opoio empisteyetai o laos.

BITALHS: Sxetika me th diadikasia ths Kyriakhs qa hqela na rwthsw: Yparxoyn, shmera, ston Typo kapoies kritikes kai qa hqela na anaferw kapoia apo ta sobara stoixeia ayths ths kritikhs, opws gia paradeigma, proswpika dedomena kai diafylajh toys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Poio einai to problhma; Opoios proserxetai ekei, proserxetai aytoboylws, me dikh toy epilogh, gia na chfisei. Dinei to onoma toy, thn taytothta toy, dhlwnontas oti epiqymei, se ayth thn poreia poy qeloyme na akoloyqhsoyme, na dwsei thn entolh sto Giwrgo Papandreoy gia mia pio dhmokratikh kai symmetoxikh koinwnia, gia to sxedio kai to orama poy exoyme gia th nea tetraetia. Den proserxetai kryfa.

BITALHS: Ekei einai kai h enstash kai apo to sygkekrimeno dhmosieyma. Qelw na parw mia apanthsh se mia kritikh poy ginetai.

PRWTOPAPAS: H kritikh ayth einai pantelws anaitiologhth gia ton ejhs logo: Otan kapoios proserxetai eqelontika kai aytoboylws antapokrinetai se mia prosklhsh, na erqei kai na chfisei. Th stigmh poy epilegei na to kanei, dinei to onoma kai to epiqeto toy, dhlwnei dhladh oti symmetexei se ayth thn poreia. Oti qelei to Giwrgo Papandreoy ws Proedro toy PASOK. Oti qelei na toy dwsei thn entolh na proxwrhsei, na allajei ta pragmata kai na efarmosei to sxedio toy gia th xwra kai thn koinwnia. Ayto den prepei na ginei me to onoma kai to epiqeto mas; Ayto leei to PASOK.

TAKHS: Pws qa diasfalisete to endexomeno mias polychfias. Dhladh, enas opados sas h enas poy qelei na dhmioyrghsei problhma endexomenws, phgainei se 15 topikes kai chfizei.

PRWTOPAPAS: H Plhroforikh exei para polles dynatothtes.

TAKHS: Qa exete on-line systhma se olh thn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai, se olh thn Ellada. Qa yparxei h dynatothta na erqei to onoma ston kentriko ypologisth. Diaforetika, den exei kaneis logo na to kanei. Omws, milame gia ypeyqynoys polites.

TAKHS: Ma, mporei kapoioi na qeloyn na sas dhmioyrghsoyn problhma, na mhn einai opadoi sas, na einai opadoi allwn kommatwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn ypobaqmizoyme to qema. Xrhsimopoioyme kentriko ypologisth, prokeimenoy na mporoyme na jeroyme me akribeia ti exei ginei. Peran, omws, aytoy, den qelw na ypobaqmisoyme se texnikoys oroys ayth th diadikasia. Einai mia prwtognwrh symmetoxikh diadikasia, einai mia koryfaia politikh diadikasia. Polles ekatontades xiliades polites qa symmetasxoyn kai qa prepei na antimetwpizoyme th diadikasia ayth me th deoysa prosoxh kai eyqynh.

IWANNOY: Pantws, qa moy epitrecete na sas pw, giati akoysa se kapoies syzhthseis, oti osoi anqrwpoi ki an pane na chfisoyn se ayth th diadikasia, den apodeiknyetai kati, dedomenoy oti, as poyme 3,5 ekatommyria, chfisan to PASOK stis teleytaies ekloges. Opote, kai 3 ekatommyria filoi toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy na pane na ton chfisoyn, pali qa ypoleipontai apo to pososto poy exei parei to PASOK.

PRWTOPAPAS: Na to peite dhmosia ayto to epixeirhma! Kata t` alla, den xreiazetai na to sxoliasw. Exoyme peripoy 150 xiliades melh. Apo ekei kai pera, qeloyme na mhn perioristei h diadikasia ths entolhs gi` ayth th megalh allagh poy epaggellomaste mono se aytoys toys anqrwpoys. Toys timoyme, einai ta melh mas. Einai oi anqrwpoi poy paleyoyn kaqhmerina gia to PASOK, gia thn paratajh mas. Qeloyme, omws, kai toys alloys polites. Jerete giati; Giati qa xreiastoyn megales metarryqmiseis kai allages poy apaitoyn eyryterh pleiochfia, eyryterh sthrijh, eyryterh strateysh. Kai ayth th megalh pleiochfia prepei na thn exoyme ws entolh, ws dhlwsh strateyshs, ws dhlwsh eyqynhs, symporeyshs kai synergias se mia megalh prospaqeia.

SIDERHS: Apeilhtiko akoygetai k. Ekproswpe. Synhqws, qeloyme to lao mazi, otan exoyme dyskola na bgaloyme pera.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme mia allh antilhch gia th sxesh mas me to lao. Einai mia nea sxesh ths politikhs me toys polites.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qelw na sas rwthsw, giati xqes oi ypoyrgoi Oikonomias kai Anaptyjhs poy einai armodioi toy oikonomikoy epiteleioy, den paresthsan stis anakoinwseis toy k. Papandreoy, oson afora ta metra gia toys mikromesaioys epixeirhmaties. Pws einai dynaton oi armodioi ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs na mhn einai parontes@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai Prwqypoyrgos o k. Papandreoy. Arxhgos toy kommatos einai.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Nai, alla phgainei stis ekloges kai ejaggellei metra gia thn epomenh tetraetia. Oi armodioi ypoyrgoi poy ekanan thn politikh mexri shmera, giati den htan parontes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Profanws, gia na ejaggeilei ta metra elabe ypoch toy @kai ayto to eipe- kai thn yparxoysa politikh kai ta osa exoyn ginei mexri twra kai bebaiws epeleje, me bash tis diadikasies poy yparxoyn, kai ta osa prepei na ginoyn apo edw kai pera. Kai an qelete th gnwmh moy, to prwto kai kyrio zhthma einai ekei na briskontai oi endiaferomenoi stoys opoioys apeyqynetai h ejaggelia. Kai oi endiaferomenoi, oi Ellhnes mikromesaioi, htan ekei.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Eseis den briskete logo poy den htan ekei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den katalabainw giati eprepe na einai. Kai egw den hmoyn, mporoysa na paw, alla exw thn apoch oti ekei, se aytes tis ekdhlwseis, prepei prwta ap` ola kai panw ap` ola na einai oi endiaferomenoi. Kai oi endiaferomenoi htan ekei. Yphrxe pragmatika mia prwtofanhs proseleysh twn mikromesaiwn.

BITALHS: Apoce to brady anamenoyme mia synanthsh toy Amerikanoy Proedroy Mpoys me ton Kofi Anan. Qa einai kyriws gia to Kypriako, apo o,ti lene oi efhmerides. Qelw na sas rwthsw, me bash tis endeijeis kai tis plhrofories poy exei h ellhnikh kybernhsh olo ayto to diasthma yparxoyn kapoies zymwseis; Blepete oti eimaste pleon konta se epanenarjh synomiliwn gia to Kypriako;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei mia poly megalh kinhtikothta kai to jerete. Emeis exoyme dhlwsei oti eimaste etoimoi -kai bebaiws to exoyme dhlwsei kai emeis kai o k. Papadopoylos- gia na arxisoyn oi syzhthseis. Apo ekei kai pera, prepei na ejetasoyme kai tis pragmatikes proqeseis ths toyrkikhs pleyras. An einai eilikrineis @kai eyxomaste na einai- qa arxisoyn oi syzhthseis, oi diapragmateyseis, me bash to sxedio Anan. Apo ekei qa fanei h qelhsh ths kaqe pleyras na symmetasxei sth syzhthsh gia thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy. Emeis exoyme dhlwsei epaneilhmmena th qelhsh mas na symballoyme se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Bebaiws, qelw na qymisw tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Giwrgoy Papandreoy, ta osa eipe ston k. Anan, gyrw apo to qema twn diadikasiwn. Einai idiaitera shmantika ayta poy eipe, dioti mesa apo tis syzhthseis, mesa apo tis diapragmateyseis, qa dhmioyrghqei kai to qetiko klima empistosynhs poy qa mas dwsei th dynatothta gia th synexeia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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