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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Dekembrioy 2003

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes, se thleoptikh ekpomph parakoloyqhsame to Grammatea ths N.D. Baggelh Meimarakh na pairnei mia qesh poy peripoy shmainei kalych ths kinhshs poy exei kanei o k. Xatzhdakhs sto xwro ths E.E., se o,ti afora ta Kentra Eleyqerwn Spoydwn. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pragmati, o k. Meimarakhs xqes phre th qesh poy eixe ekfrasei o k. Xatzhdakhs. Eipe, dhladh, oti prepei na anagnwristoyn ta ptyxia poy xorhgoyn ta Kentra Eleyqerwn Spoydwn, efoson ayta einai syndedemena me kapoio ptyxio panepisthmioy ths Eyrwphs, opote h xorhghsh ginetai me thn kalych aytwn twn panepisthmiwn. To qema poy tiqetai einai to ejhs:

Prwton, mporei h N.D. na apofasisei epiteloys poia einai h qesh ths; Einai ayth poy ekfrazei o k. Meimarakhs, o opoios einai kai o Grammateas ths h einai ayth thn opoia, kata kairoys, exoyn ekfrasei alla stelexh ths;

Deyteron, ean h qesh ths einai ayth poy exei ekfrasei o k. Meimarakhs, tote einai safes oti odhgoymaste eyqews se anagnwrish twn ptyxiwn twn Kentrwn Eleyqerwn Spoydwn. Odhgoymaste eyqews sthn katarghsh twn dikaiwmatwn kai sthn amfisbhthsh ths ajias twn ptyxiwn twn AEI kai twn TEI. Ayto qa ginei otan qa mporei o oiosdhpote, mesw enos KES kai me thn kalych kapoioy panepisthmioy ths Eyrwphs, na kanei tetoies kinhseis.

To symperasma poy dikaioymaste na ejagoyme einai to ejhs: H N.D. epiteloys egkataleipei ta prosxhmata. Yioqetei eyqews tis qeseis toy k. Xatzhdakh. H N.D. yioqetei eyqews thn amfisbhthsh kai ypobaqmish twn ptyxiwn twn AEI kai TEI sthn Ellada. H N.D. erxetai na agkaliasei eyqews ta KES kai na odhghsei -profanws kanontas emporio elpidas- se katastaseis poy einai epikindynes, gia to synolo ths Paideias sth xwra mas. Perimenoyme apanthseis. An den yparjoyn -kai o k. Meimarakhs, opws fainetai, pragmati exei ekfrasei thn epishmh qesh ths N.D., estw kai meta apo mia ebdomada talaipwrias metajy toys- einai safes oti exoyme mia eyqeia epiqesh ths N.D. kata ths dhmosias Paideias sth xwra mas. Kaloyme oloys toys anqrwpoys ths Paideias, toys prytaneis, toys proedroys twn TEI, oloys osoi doylecan gia na anabaqmistei h dhmosia Paideia na paroyn qesh.

TAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelw na sas rwthsw kata poson mporoyn na kamfqoyn oi antidraseis sth syzhthsh poy ginetai gia to eyrwpaiko Syntagma, oson afora th rhtra amoibaiothtas kai to qema toy Kypriakoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dyo diaforetika qemata. Oi diafwnies poy yparxoyn sto Syntagma exoyn na kanoyn me th dynatothta lhchs apofasewn sthn E.E. kyriws. Dhladh, to agkaqi, an mporoyme na to poyme etsi, einai kyriws to qema toy tropoy lhchs apofasewn sthn E.E.. Opws einai gnwsto yparxoyn protaseis gia eidikh pleiochfia, h opoia na sygkentrwnei to 50% twn xwrwn kai to 60% twn plhqysmwn kai yparxoyn antirrhseis apo seira xwrwn se ayto to qema. Yparxei, epishs, ena qema poy syndeetai me thn eyrwpaikh amyna. Yparxoyn kai zhthmata poy syndeontai me toys Epitropoys. Yparxoyn kai alla tetoia qemata, sta opoia paramenoyn diafwnies.

To Kypriako einai mia allh ypoqesh kai exei na kanei me genikotera zhthmata kai th genikoterh stash ths E.E. sto qema poy syndeetai arrhkta me thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias. Bebaiws, einai safes oti gia na yparjei eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias, qa prepei h Toyrkia na ylopoihsei kapoies ypoxrewseis ths. Piqano na exei kanei kapoia mikra bhmata. Apo o,ti maqainoyme kapoia mikra bhmata exoyn diapistwqei kai sto keimeno twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn, kyriws ston tomea ths eswterikhs nomoqesias. Alla den arkoyn. Einai safes oti h Toyrkia, allazontas stash prepei na symbalei sth lysh toy Kypriakoy, ean epiqymei pragmati na enisxysei thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths. Emeis qeloyme thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias, alla exoyme pei kat` epanalhch oti ayth pernaei mesa kai apo thn katarghsh ths prasinhs grammhs.

TAKHS: Gia ta agkaqia poy eipate kai aforoyn ki emas, giati mas eggizoyn, blepete na yparxei mia omalh ejelijh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pote se Synodo Koryfhs den mporeis na kaneis me akribeia probleceis. Qa elega, omws, ti einai to swsto. Anamfibola mporei kapoios na pei eykola oti: ``Entajei na mh breqei symfwnia sth diarkeia ths Synodoy twn Bryjellwn, poy ginetai sto telos ths ebdomadas. Mporoyme na erqoyme to Flebarh, to Marth kai na janakanoyme mia syzhthsh, na katalhjoyme se mia symfwnia''. Ayto mporei kapoios na to pei. Alla prosejete: Yparxei mia eyrwpaikh empeiria @kai milw gia to Syntagma- poy leei oti otan xaneis mia eykairia, otan ena pragma ftanei sthn koryfwsh toy kai den epitygxanetai symfwnia, polles fores, den epitygxanetai oyte sth synexeia, alla to qema parapempetai stis kalendes, to xaneis. Gi` ayto lew oti h ellhnikh apoch einai na breqei symfwnia sth Synodo twn Bryjellwn. Na katabaloyme kaqe dynath prospaqeia, na symbaloyme oloi. Ayto boleyei thn Eyrwph. Ayto symferei toys laoys ths. Ayto einai to symferon twn eyrwpaikwn koinwniwn: Na breqei lysh sto Syntagma. Oloi prepei na doylecoyme me bash to symferon twn eyrwpaikwn koinwniwn. Gi` ayto kai qa katabaloyme kaqe dynath prospaqeia. H ellhnikh kybernhsh kai proswpika o Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths kataballoyn kai qa kataballoyn kaqe dynath prospaqeia. Pantote, bebaia, sth bash twn protasewn poy exei kanei h Syneleysh, prokeimenoy na katalhjoyme se symfwnia gia to Syntagma ths Eyrwphs.

KARGOYDH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela ena sxolio sas gia th xqesinh dhlwsh toy k. Miler, oti qa topoqethqei gia th dikastikh apofash gia th dikh ths 17N, meta thn epimetrhsh twn poinwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pros to paron den exw kapoio sxolio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, gia ta KES qelw na sas rwthsw. Yparxoyn sthn Ellada KES, ta opoia emfanizontai ws pararthmata jenwn panepisthmiwn. Poios toys edwse ayth thn adeia kai to dikaiwma na emfanizontai sthn Ellada ws pararthmata jenwn panepisthmiwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, emeis pantws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios dinei thn adeia, h kybernhsh den thn exei dwsei; To ypoyrgeio Paideias ti kanei, kleinei ta matia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyn kanena dikaiwma na emfanizontai, ws panepisthmio. Emfanizontai ws KES. Apo ekei kai pera, ean qelei ena panepisthmio na to onomazei, opws qelei, ayto den exei kamia sxesh @kai to exoyme jekaqarisei hmeres twra- me thn pragmatikh ennoia toy panepisthmioy. Emeis eimaste kaqaroi. Ta ptyxia toys den anagnwrizontai. An h N.D. qelei na ta anagnwrisei -to eipe kaqara- kaloyme, ayth th stigmh, oloys toys pneymatikoys anqrwpoys ths xwras na paroyn qesh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios toys edwse thn adeia poy phran na einai pararthma panepisthmioy. Mporeite na moy peite;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me to ellhniko dikaio den einai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws den einai; Afoy emfanizontai, poios toys epitrepei; Tis diafhmiseis den tis exete dei; Toys kalyptete, dhladh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto katalabate; Kaqenas katalabainei o,ti mporei.

KOYI@N: Xqes, o boyleyths toy SYN k. Lafazanhs yposthrije, se synenteyjh Typoy, oti to kostos gia thn asfaleia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, mazi me ola ta synarmodia ypoyrgeia proseggizei to 1,5 dis eyrw. Aytos o ariqmos briskei symfwnh thn kybernhsh h einai ligotero to kostos;

PRWTOPAPAS: To kostos asfaleias twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn einai gnwsto. Exei ypografei symbash kai einai gnwsto to kostos.

KOY@I@N: Ennoei ola ta synarmodia ypoyrgeia, Dhmosias Tajhs, Eqnikhs Amynas, Emporikhs Naytilias k.t.l.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqenas aytes tis hmeres qa pei tis apoceis toy -dhmokratia exoyme sthn Ellada- piqano na pei kai tis yperboles toy, piqano na kanei kai tis ektimhseis toy, oi opoies mporei na mhn exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta, alla exei dikaiwma na ta leei. Emeis ayto poy antiteinoyme einai oti, opoios qelei na skeftei kai na leitoyrghsei sobara, den exei para na parei tis symbaseis kai na dei ta posa poy anaferontai se aytes.

KOYIN: Qa dhmosiopoihqoyn pote oi symbaseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme enhmerwsei epishmws gia to kostos; Exei doqei egkrish toy KYSEA.

KOYIN: Einai mia symbash h dyo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sthn apofash toy KYSEA milhsame gia mia symbash me thn etairia SAIC. Apofasisame th symbash me thn koinoprajia ayth kai to synoliko kostos. Twra to pws exei ginei h katanomh, den mporoyme na to gnwrizoyme.

TSIKRIKA: O k. Miler kai o k. Mpaoytzer afhsan anoikto ena paraqyro na zhthsoyn thn ekdosh kapoiwn kathgoroymenwn ths 17N stis HPA. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme jekaqarisei, me dhlwseis toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs k. Petsalnikoy, oti den yparxei kanena qema ekdoshs se allh xwra. Gi` aytoys poy aqwwqhkan den yparxei kanena problhma. Osoi kriqhkan enoxoi, afoy anakoinwqoyn oi poines toys apo to armodio dikasthrio, qa klhqoyn na ektisoyn thn poinh toys stis fylakes mas.

MPOTWNHS: Symbadizoyn me thn koinwnikh politikh ths kybernhshs ta nea timologia poy anakoinwse o OTE;

PRWTOPAPAS: Anakoinwqhke ena oloklhro plegma metrwn kai sas parapempw sto plhres periexomeno ths anakoinwshs poy ekdoqhke. Perilambanontai diafora metra. Den anaferetai se ena mono qema h anakoinwsh.

MPOTWNHS: Qa einai pio akriba pleon.

PRWTOPAPAS: O OTE einai mia epixeirhsh, alla to Dhmosio den payei na einai o kyrios metoxos toy. Gi` ayto endiaferetai panta gia thn politikh toy. Gia na katalhjete, omws, se telikes kriseis, qa sas parakaloysa na diabasete to synolo ths anakoinwshs.

GARGALAKOS: Arxise, shmera, mia prodhmosieysh, kata kapoion tropo, twn stoixeiwn ths dhmoskophshs (poy qa dhmosiopoihqei ayrio) ths etairias MRB. Mhpws mporeite na th sxoliasete; Rwtw, dioti yparxei kai ena prwtoselido shmera.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eida orismena dhmosieymata kai akoysa plhrofories apo synadelfoys sas. To qema poy yparxei einai to ejhs: Perimenoyme thn MRB na topoqethqei kai na mas pei an isxyoyn aytes oi plhrofories. Dioti, an den isxyoyn, paei kala. Alla, an isxyoyn, einai safes oti exoyme mia akyrwsh ths idias ths dhmoskophshs. Dioti, syndromhtikh dhmoskophsh, h opoia prodhmosieyetai, parapempei se alloy typoy logikes, poy ayth th stigmh den qelw na anaferw. Epeidh, loipon, den biazomaste, qa hqela na parakalesw kai dhmosiws @to exw kanei kai kat` idian- thn etairia MRB na ekdwsei shmera sxetikh anakoinwsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O OTE eixe ypobalei sthn kybernhsh to sxedio gia to neo xaratsi; Eixe egkriqei apo thn kybernhsh, me thn ennoia oti einai epopteyomenos organismos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den egkrinontai apo thn kybernhsh, dioti o OTE den einai epopteyomenos organismos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: DEKO den einai; Poios diorizei to dioikhth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai DEKO. O proedros kai dieyqynwn symboylos den diorizetai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ton Antwnakopoylo, poios ton ebgale;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den ton ebgale h kybernhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Thn pleiochfia poios thn exei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oyte pleiochfia exoyme. Gia na sas to ejhghsw: To Dhmosio einai o kyrios metoxos toy OTE. Ara, to Dhmosio exei dikaiwma na chfisei sth Genikh Syneleysh toy OTE, ton x@, ton c@, efoson to epiqymei kai piqanon, logw ths polydiasporas twn metoxwn, na eklegei aytos poy qa chfisei. Ayto shmainei oti to Dhmosio, dhladh to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn, endiaferetai kai parakoloyqei thn poreia ths epixeirhshs, dedomenoy oti einai megalometoxos. Opoy prepei na symbalei gia ton eyrytero anaptyjiako kai koinwniko rolo toy OTE, to kanei. Dioti, to Dhmosio endiaferetai na exei o OTE ena eyrytero koinwniko kai anaptyjiako rolo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, egkrinei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa ayto. Eipa oti endiaferetai na exei ena eyrytero koinwniko kai anaptyjiako rolo, pera apo th stenh leitoyrgia mias epixeirhshs. Me ayth thn ennoia, den egkrinei, alla ekdhlwnei to endiaferon toy kai se sxesh me tis timologiakes politikes. Einai safes oti endiaferomaste na gnwrizoyme kaqe kinhsh, wste kai ta symferonta toy organismoy (to anaptyjiako programma toy) kai to programma ejyphrethshs toy katanalwth kai h megisth shmasia toy roloy toy OTE sthn oikonomia, alla kai oi qeseis ergasias na ejasfalizontai. Parallhla, bebaia, o katanalwths na mhn epibarynetai. Na prostateyetai. Prospaqoyme, loipon, panta na symbaloyme kai oxi na apofasizoyme.

ZOYLAS: Epeidh den katalaba kala to sxolio sas gia thn MRB@

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti, an bgoyn ta pososta sth dhmosiothta kai den einai ayta poy grafthkan, yparxoyn dyo periptwseis: H mia, na prokeitai gia paraplhroforhsh, poy qymata ths opoias epesan synadelfoi sas (kai den toys kakizw- ginontai ayta-) opote kalw thn MRB na topoqethqei kai na ta diaceysei. H deyterh, na mhn prokeitai gia paraplhroforhsh, opote tiqetai ena meizon qema politikhs deontologias. Alla, epeidh den qelw na biazomai, pisteyw oti to kalytero poy exei na kanei h etairia (poy einai mia megalh etairia sto xwro twn dhmoskophsewn me th dikh ths ypostash) einai na topoqethqei h idia shmera.

ZOYLAS: To ``meizon qema ths politikhs deontologias'' den katalabainw giati einai meizon qema gia thn kybernhsh. Kai alles fores exoyn diarreysei stoixeia dhmoskophsewn, prin thn epishmh dhmosieysh toys, ws dhmosiografikes plhrofories.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exei katadikastei ayto; Otan exoyme syndomhtikes dhmoskophseis, den exoyme pei oti aytes prepei na emfanizontai mesa apo ton episthmoniko dromo ths deontologias, ton opoio deixnoyn oi idies oi apofaseis toy SEDEA kai na mh xrhsimopoioyntai gia politika paixnidia. O idios o SEDEA den to exei pei; Den yioqetw oti etsi einai ta pragmata. To kalytero poy exei na kanei h etairia einai na topoqethqei kai na dwsei telos sta senaria. Den toys amfisbhtw. Lew oti xreiazetai na doqei ena telos sta senaria. Dioti, ean ta senaria epibebaiwnontai, einai safes oti yparxei xrhsh syndromhtikhs dhmoskophshs sto politiko paixnidi. Katalabainete oti ayto qa dhmioyrghsei, me th seira toy, peraiterw amfisbhthseis, stis opoies den mporw na anaferqw ayth th stigmh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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