Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-11-26

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 26 Noembrioy 2003

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Xqes, eixame dhlwsh 28 eyrwboyleytwn kai dhlwsh ths ESHEA. Skeptetai h kybernhsh, an o mh genoito peqanei kapoios apo kapoia epiplokh, oti afenos qa dhmioyrghqei ek toy mh ontos kinhma kai afeteroy kaneis den qa mporei na empodisei opoiadhpote eyrwpaikh efhmerida na milhsei gia ``ejpres toy mesonyktioy'' kai ``leyka kelia'' sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prokeitai peri kalpazoysas fantasias kai qa parakaloysa poly na prosexoyme, dioti h sygkrish me tetoia pragmata prosballei th xwra kai ton politismo mas. Yparxoyn kai oria.

SIDERHS: Den to lew egw, ypoqesh ergasias kanw. Qa mporoyse kapoia eyrwpaikh efhmerida na gracei tetoia pragmata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Dexomai apolyta th dieykrinish sas kai proxwrw sthn apanthsh: Prepei na jekaqaristei kati. Sthn Ellada h Dikaiosynh leitoyrgei anejarthta. Bebaia, s` ayto to zhthma oloi exoyme eyaisqhsia. To mono, omws, poy mporei na kanei h kybernhsh einai na zhta thn epitaxynsh twn diadikasiwn. Kai to kanei. Tipote allo. Apo ekei kai pera, gia tis synqhkes krathshs kai thn opoia kinhsh pros toys kratoymenoys, yparxei armodios eisaggeleas, o opoios hdh exei parembei sta zhthmata poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn ygeia kai thn prostasia ths zwhs toys. Omoiws, se sxesh me thn epitaxynsh twn diadikasiwn kai thn tyxh ths aithshs apofylakishs toys, yparxoyn ta armodia dikastika symboylia. H kybernhsh den mporei, oyte na toys apofylakisei, oyte na apofasisei gia to an qa parapemfqoyn h oxi. Den prepei na zhtame kati tetoio, giati ekfeygei toy Syntagmatos mas kai einai ejw apo th logikh ths organwmenhs ellhnikhs Politeias. Ayto poy mporei h kybernhsh na kanei @kai to exei kanei, sas diabebaiwnw- einai na parakoloyqei synexws thn poreia ths ypoqeshs kai na zhta thn epitaxynsh twn diadikasiwn. Bebaiws, qa kanei o,ti perna apo to xeri ths @panta me thn parakoloyqhsh eisaggelea- wste na diasfalistoyn h ygeia kai oi omales synqhkes krathshs toys. Ara, nai sthn epitaxynsh, alla sas jekaqarizw oti den mporw na gnwrizw an qa synexistei h profylakish, oyte an qa parapemfqoyn kai me ti kathgories. H ypoqesh brisketai sta xeria ths Dikaiosynhs, h opoia @epanalambanw- sth xwra mas einai anejarthth.

POYLIDOY: H ``AYGH'' dhmosieyei, shmera, neo fwtografiko ntokoymento, opoy emfanizetai o diadhlwths na krata allh tsanta apo ayth gia thn opoia enoxopoieitai. Qa hqela na rwthsw, h kybernhsh zhthse EDE gi` ayth th symperifora;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei prwta na oloklhrwqei h dikastikh ereyna kai sth synexeia na proxwrhsoyn oi peiqarxikes ereynes. Apo th dikastikh ereyna, h opoia prepei na oloklhrwqei grhgora, qa bgoyn symperasmata, an prokyptoyn kathgories. Prepei na jekaqarisw oti gia kanenan den mporoyme na paroyme qesh, oso yparxei dikastikh ereyna. Epishs, h Dikaiosynh qa apofanqei an qa synexistei h fylakish toys h oxi, dioti ekkremei kai h aithsh toys. H kybernhsh qa kanei swsta th doyleia ths. Zhtoyme prwtoi thn epitaxynsh ths diadikasias. Den mporoyme, omws, na anagkasoyme h na prokrinoyme h na ephreasoyme @kai den prepei- toys eisaggeleis h toys dikastes, dioti symfwna me to Syntagma, leitoyrgoyn anejarthta.

MIXAHL: Yparxei to ejhs lepto shmeio, sto opoio h kybernhsh mporei, an qelei @kai tonizw to ``an qelei''- na parembei. Oi armodies astynomikes arxes exoyn sygkentrwsei stoixeia@

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei armodios eisaggeleas, o opoios parakoloyqei ta dhmosieymata poy yparxoyn ston Typo kai enhmerwnei ta armodia organa.

MIXAHL: Anamfibola. Rwtw, omws, an eseis kanete tis peiqarxikes ereynes, opws exete dikaiwma ws kybernhsh kai ekei diapistwqei oti pragmati epibebaiwnetai to fwtografiko yliko poy dhmosieyetai, amesws allazei to periexomeno, poy h dikastikh ereyna diaqetei ws stoixeio gia na mporei na krinei.

PRWTOPAPAS: H dikastikh ereyna, profanws exei labei ypoch ths ta dhmosieymata. Gnwrizete oti para polles fores o eisaggeleas exei epembei meta apo dhmosieymata. Epomenws, emeis qa kanoyme th doyleia mas kai einai swsto ayto poy lete oti qa prepei na ginei kai sxetikh ereyna eswterika, alla ayto poy epeigei ayth th stigmh einai h Dikaiosynh na bgalei to porisma ths.

POYLIDOY: An den eixan syllhfqei kai den ekkremoyse dikastikh ereyna, eseis, basei toy fwtografikoy ylikoy, den qa zhtoysate@

PRWTOPAPAS: H ereyna entos, qa ginei. Kaqe kataggelia prepei ej orismoy na ejetazetai. Den gnwrizw an h kataggelia einai orqh h oxi, den exw tis texnikes dynatothtes. Allo, omws, einai ayto kai allo ta qemata poy sxetizontai me th dikastikh ereyna. Einai anejarthta pragmata.

POYLIDOY: Qa hqela na dieykrinisete, ayrio endexomenws, an ginetai kai diadikasia@

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa sas dwsw leptomereies sthn epomenh politikh enhmerwsh, afoy milhsw prwta me tis arxes.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Me entypwsiazei to gegonos oti lete pws den mporeite na ekferete apoch , pera apo to sebasmo sas pros th Dikaiosynh. Eiste enas politikos paragontas o opoios epopteyei thn Kratikh Thleorash, mesw ths opoias hrqe sth dhmosiothta thleoptiko binteo poy apodeiknyei thn astynomikh skeywria kai ayqairesia. Ws poliths, alla kai ws politika epopteywn thn Kratikh Thleorash, qewreite oti ayto to binteo einai plasto, kataskeyasmeno, analhqes;

PRWTOPAPAS: An einai dynaton! Den eipa oti einai analhqes. Eipa oti h dikh moy doyleia, se sxesh me th Dhmosia Thleorash, einai na diasfalisw me bash tis eyqynes poy moy dinei o nomos, h Dhmosia Thleorash na einai anoikth, ployralistikh, dhmokratikh, poiotikh kai enhmerwtikh. Apo ekei kai pera, an qa deijei kapoio binteo h oxi einai diko ths qema. Ayth einai h eyqynh moy kai qelw na katalabete oti den parembainw sto ti qa deijei. Alimono an parenebaina. Qa hmastan se alles epoxes kai oxi ston 21o aiwna.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Qewreite pragmatiko kai alhqes ena binteo to opoio katadeiknyei thn astynomikh skeywria kata enos syllhfqenta, o opoios ayth th stigmh brisketai@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimai oyte peiqarxiko organo ths Astynomias, oyte dikasths, oyte eisaggeleas. Den moy epitrepetai na kanw tetoioys xarakthrismoys. Ayto poy qelw na sas diabebaiwsw kai einai eyqynh moy, einai oti ola ayta exoyn teqei ypoch twn arxwn. Sto men qema ths dikastikhs ejoysias einai aytonomh na kanei th doyleia ths, sto de qema poy afora tis opoies eyqynes qa sas enhmerwsw analytika gia thn poreia poy qa akoloyqhsoyme.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn kataggelies oti ena apo ta krithria gia thn paratash ths syllhchs twn anqrwpwn poy briskontai sth fylakh, einai kai h eqnikothta toys. Gia na ginw pio safhs, yparxoyn kataggelies oti metajy twn syllhfqentwn, twn prwtwn hmerwn, ekeinoi poy eixan amerikanika diabathria afeqhkan amesws eleyqeroi. Qelw na rwthsw, ean exei ypopesei kati tetoio sthn antilhch sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den egine kamia syllhch me bash krithria eqnikothtas, fyloy, fylhs, xrwmatos. Oi syllhceis, ej oswn gnwrizw, eginan me bash thn aisqhsh poy yphrxe ekeinh th stigmh sta astynomika organa.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Exete ypoch sas, ean yphrjan thn prwth hmera twn syllhcewn parembaseis apo thn amerikanikh presbeia gia syllhfqentes Amerikanoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den dexomaste tetoioy eidoys parembaseis. Ta krath, yphkooi twn opoiwn exoyn syllhfqei, logiko einai na rwtoyn, mesw twn armodiwn arxwn, ti ginetai. Ayto einai apolyta fysiologiko. Ki emeis rwtame. Twra me to Pakistan, poy exoyme mia ypoqesh me toys Ellhnes naytikoys, exoyme asxolhqei para polles fores kai einai ypoxrewsh mas na asxoloymaste. Alimono ean den endiaferomaste.

BITALHS: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia thn ejelijh poy eixame shmera me to qema ths Titinas Loizidoy gia thn katabolh ths apozhmiwshs, ek meroys ths Toyrkias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Se epikoinwnia poy eixa me to Strasboyrgo den exei oristikopoihqei h sygkekrimenh antidrash ths toyrkikhs pleyras. Kratw mia mikrh epifylajh gia logoys plhroforhshs. Akomh den exei anakoinwqei epishma, yphrxan polles fhmes, profanws se aytes anafereste.

GARGALAKOS: Ean ginei ayto, dhladh, na plhrwsei h Toyrkia thn ka Loizidoy, ayto qa einai qetiko;

PRWTOPAPAS: Safws. Ean h Toyrkia dexqei na plhrwsei sthn ypoqesh Loizidoy qa to xairethsoyme prwtoi, ws mia poly kalh kinhsh kai anagnwrish twn kanonwn toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. Qa einai ena qetiko gegonos.

MPOTWNHS: Akoysa kapoies dhlwseis, poy einai kai qesh toy Proedroy toy OTE, oti qa prepei me ton enan h ton allo tropo na apoxwrhsoyn apo ton Organismo peripoy 4.000 ergazomenoi. Exete kapoio sxolio; Symfwnei h kybernhsh me ayth thn apoch;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyn doqei ejhghseis. Den qa yparjei kamia apolysh kai den einai dynato na ginei kati tetoio apo ayth thn kybernhsh, giati einai ejw apo th logikh kai thn politikh mas. Sth logikh ayths ths kybernhshs einai oti ta problhmata den antimetwpizontai me omadikes apolyseis. Ara, emeis qa askhsoyme thn politikh mas epirroh pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Hdh, exei dwsei dieykriniseis o k. Antwnakopoylos.

POYLIDOY: Meta th xqesinh apofash toy ECOFIN anhsyxei h kybernhsh oti enocei kai toy Proypologismoy qa entaqoyn oi apergies, oi kinhtopoihseis twn ergazomenwn, afoy yparxei kai nomimh pleon bash xalarothtas twn dhmosionomikwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Poia einai h nomimh bash xalarothtas twn dhmosionomikwn kai den thn jeroyme;

POYLIDOY: H apofash toy ECOFIN.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. H apofash toy ECOFIN den einai nomimh bash xalarothtas twn dhmosionomikwn. Ayto qelw na to jekaqarisoyme.

POYLIDOY: Gia dyo xwres.

PRWTOPAPAS: H apofash toy ECOFIN einai katanohsh sta problhmata poy yphrjan se dyo xwres, lambanomenoy panta ypoch oti sthrizoyme thn poreia poy epiballei to Symfwno Staqerothtas, opws polles fores ginetai sthn E.E. Den einai h prwth fora. Qelw na sas qymisw oti eixe ginei sto parelqon kai gia mas. Den yparxoyn eidikes diadikasies -giati den prokeitai gia ayto- alla mia diadikasia katanohshs periodwn kai problhmatwn, poy paroysiazontai se orismenes xwres, panta me th desmeysh oti qa yparjei h poreia poy epiballoyn oi symfwnies. Den tiqetai, loipon, se amfisbhthsh to Symfwno Staqerothtas. Ayto prepei na ginei apolyta katanohto. Den einai pros to symferon ths xwras, ths koinwnias kai twn politwn na teqei se amfisbhthsh to Symfwno Staqerothtas.

Sas eyxaristw.

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