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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 7 Oktwbrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na arxisoyme me ena eyxaristo kai shmantiko gegonos. Plhroforhqhka oti o kaqhghths Dhmosioy Dikaioy toy Panepisthmioy Qessalonikhs kai dikasths Basilhs Skoyrhs ejelegh Proedros toy Eyrwpaikoy Dikasthrioy. Enas akomh Ellhnas erxetai na katalabei mia idiaitera shmantikh qesh ths Koinothtas, kati poy deixnei thn isxyrh qesh kai thn apodoxh ths Elladas apo olh thn Eyrwph.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

ANTYPAS: Exw treis erwthseis. Prin apo liges hmeres, eixate zhthsei apo ton k. Karamanlh, me aformh thn ypoqesh Spanoydakh, na topoqethqei dhmosiws an pisteyei oti oloi oi Ellhnes einai isoi enanti toy nomoy, symfwna me to Syntagma. Qa hqela th qesh ths kybernhshs, me bash osa eginan xqes sto qema twn ayqairetwn, alla kai me tis synexizomenes apergies, para tis dikastikes apofaseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sto prwto erwthma: O k. Karamanlhs, oxi mono den exei topoqethqei, alla apanthse emmesws, phgainontas sth synaylia toy k. Spanoydakh.

Deyteron, oson afora ta ayqaireta, pragmatika h xqesinh eikona htan idiaitera dysaresth. H armodia dieyqyntria, otan ths proskomisan mia dikastikh apofash pro pollwn etwn, allaje th sxetikh apofash ths kai anagkase ta synergeia ths perifereias na stamathsoyn. Bebaiws, emeis qa epanelqoyme. Hdh, o Perifereiarxhs k. Kyriakidhs exei kanei tis deoyses energeies pros th Nomarxia gia na elegxqei olh h ypoqesh se sxesh me poleodomikes parabaseis. Eimaste apofasismenoi na baloyme telos sthn ayqairesia. Akomh ki an paroysiazontai problhmata, opws to xqesino, problhmata poy enoxloyn oloys mas, emeis epimenoyme kai qa ejantlhsoyme ta periqwria poy yparxoyn, prokeimenoy na mpei tajh.

Kai triton, gia tis kinhtopoihseis twn gewtexnikwn, prepei na sas pw oti, meta to Sabbato, den yfistatai problhma ths ayths tajews, opws yphrxe mexri tote. Akoysa, shmera kai thn ka Papanikolaoy se kapoio radiofwniko staqmo. Ta problhmata einai poly mikrotera, exoyn meiwqei shmantika kai xairomaste gi@ ayto. Bebaiws, janaprosfygame sto Dikasthrio shmera, giati yphrje mia prospaqeia allaghs toy periexomenoy twn apergiakwn kinhtopoihsewn, profanws prosxhmatikh kai htan anagkaio na proboyme se ayth th nea kinhsh. Qewrw, omws, oti to qema qa lhjei omala kai den qa yparjei problhma gia th dhmosia ygeia.

ANTYPAS: Dhladh, h antidrash ths kybernhshs ejantleitai sto na ejantlei ta periqwria, xwris na allazei tipota;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oysiastika efarmosthke h dikastikh apofash.

ANTYPAS: Sto qema twn ayqairetwn. Epeidh, opws eipate, einai polla xronia h telesidikh apofash.

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrxe mia apofash, h opoia mas koinopoihqhke, xqes, sthn armodia yphresia. H ka Dieyqyntria ektimhse kai enhrghse, opws enhrghse. Bebaiws, leei oti phre mia dikastikh apofash sta xeria ths kai ti allo mporoyse na kanei. Ayto einai mia allh syzhthsh. Emeis breqhkame mprosta se ena dedomeno. Mia kakh leitoyrgia poy yphrxe, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, alla bebaiws kai h yparjh mias apofashs, estw kai an dikastika einai palaioterh. Ti kanoyme loipon; Blepoyme thn yparjh ayqairesias; Nai, th blepoyme kai htan pragmatika lyphro poy den mporoyse na ektelestei h xqesinh apofash. Epanerxomaste, omws. To qema den to afhnoyme, den to jexname. Apo th stigmh poy ektimoyme oti yparxoyn parabaseis, qa ginei erwthma -kai exei proxwrhsei ayth th stigmh apo ton Perifereiarxh k. Kyriakidh pros th Nomarxia, poy einai armodia- wste na elegxqei h ypoqesh. Den stamatame mexri poy na feroyme ta pragmata ekei poy prepei, opws apaitei apo emas o ellhnikos laos.

ANTYPAS: O k. Shmiths, xqes, zhthse apo toys boyleytes toy na bgoyn porta-porta, symfwna me tis plhrofories (ean einai laqos, akyrh h erwthsh).

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme. Qa to zhthsei ayto kai sto Eqniko Symboylio.

ANTYPAS: Qa hqela, loipon, na rwthsw, ean o k. Shmiths einai ikanopoihmenos (pera apo ayta poy zhta apo ta stelexh kai toys boyleytes) apo toys ypoyrgoys toy apo thn kinhtopoihsh poy exoyn na epideijoyn mexri stigmhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai, einai ikanopoihmenos, dioti oloi oi ypoyrgoi kanoyn kala th doyleia toys, yperaspizoyn to kybernhtiko ergo kai malista me to syntonismo toy k. Akribakh phgainoyn se olh thn Ellada, opws egine kai to Septembrio, alla kai twra ton Oktwbrio, gia na paroysiasoyn kai na analysoyn to kybernhtiko ergo. Einai allo ayto kai allo h ejormhsh olwn twn stelexwn toy kommatos se ola ta epipeda, perifereiaka kai topika, pros ta ejw, poy qa shmatodothqei apo to Eqniko Symboylio. Einai mia megalh mazikh ejormhsh me bash to programma mas, th doyleia mas kai th Xarta oikonomikhs kai koinwnikhs sygklishs, mia ejormhsh oloy toy PASOK.

IWANNOY: Metajy allwn, maqainoyme oti xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, se synanthsh poy eixe me to Proedreio ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas, amfisbhthse an einai dokimos o oros gia tis dhmoskophseis h ton tropo me ton opoio aytes dienergoyntai, legontas xarakthristika, toylaxiston opws diabasame, oti ta krithria me ta opoia ginontai h h meqodos poy xrhsimopoieitai isws na mhn einai ajiopisth kai oti oi pio sobaroi melethtes lene oti oysiastika prokeitai gia mia maxh sthqos me sthqos. Einai etsi; Pragmati o Prwqypoyrgos amfisbhtei tis dhmoskophseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos o,ti exei na pei, to exei pei anoikta. Th genikoterh qesh, toso toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oso kai ths kybernhshs, thn exoyme paroysiasei, kat@ epanalhch, edw. Den topoqetoymaste panw se ektimhseis h plhrofories synadelfwn sas, poy polles fores, sthn prospaqeia toys na kalycoyn diafora gegonota, metaferoyn ta pragmata opws ta akoyne. Bebaia, den ftaine aytoi. Ayta, omws, den exoyn na kanoyn me thn pragmatikh syzhthsh poy exei ginei. Gia paradeigma, ayto poy egine prin apo mia ebdomada, to opoio bebaiws den eixe eipwqei etsi.

IWANNOY: To erwthma moy einai, an o Prwqypoyrgos exei ayth thn apoch gia tis dhmoskophseis. Ean to gnwrizete, giati mporei na mh to gnwrizete.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den topoqetoymai se dhmosieymata. Den einai dynaton. O Prwqypoyrgos o,ti eixe na pei gia tis dhmoskophseis to exei pei me ton pio kaqaro kai safh tropo. Exw pei kai egw, ws Ekproswpos, orismena pragmata, kata kairoys, kai gia thn ajia twn dhmoskophsewn kai gia to ti deixnoyn aytes. Ola ayta mporei na ajiopoihqoyn. Einai anagkh na kanoyme sobarh koybenta, prosqetw twra -me thn idiothta toy ypoyrgoy Typoy to lew ayto- gia tis dhmoskophseis; Emeis qa exoyme etoimh mia protash, ena sxedio politikhs, to opoio qa qesoyme ypoch kai twn kommatwn kai twn endiaferomenwn. Den qa epimeinoyme na ginei nomos. Dioti, kapoios mporei na pei "ti pate na kanete, na dhmioyrghsete problhma paramonh eklogwn"; Oxi, bebaia. Den exoyme kamia tetoia proqesh. Ean, omws, ta politika kommata, oi endiaferomenoi ektimhsoyn oti ayto to plaisio mporei na exei eyrytath apodoxh, na symfwnhsoyme dhladh, tote den qa yparxei problhma. Alla ws enarjh mias syzhthshs, xwris th biasynh ths nomoqetikhs parembashs -kai to tonizw ayto- pisteyw oti qa wfelhsei oloys, estw kai an meinoyme sth syzhthsh. Den einai kako.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Meta th dhmosiopoihsh twn teleytaiwn dhmoskophsewn, prin apo merikes ebdomades, eixate diapistwsei ki eseis apo edw mia beltiwsh toy klimatos gia thn kybernhsh kai to kybernwn komma. Symfwneite h diafwneite me tis ektimhseis poy grafontai se polla dhmosieymata oti ayth h poreia exei anakopei gia thn kybernhsh kai oti yparxei tis teleytaies hmeres ena telma; Kai grafetai anaforika me para polla gegonota poy kyriarxoyn sthn epikairothta.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den exei anakopei h qetikh poreia ths kybernhshs pros ta mpros, oyte toy PASOK. Kai qa to diapistwsete ayto poly syntoma kai apo to klima poy qa dhmioyrghqei apo thn ejormhsh poy qa kanoyme se ola ta epipeda. An ennoeite twra ayto poy akoyw kaqe mera sta radiofwna oti h Ellada einai se asfyktiko kloio apo kinhtopoihseis k.lp. nomizw oti einai oi synhqeis yperboles poy xrhsimopoioyme merikes fores, idiaitera sto xwro ths enhmerwshs. Den einai ta pragmata, oyte tragika, oyte ejw apo sygkekrimenes katastaseis poy kata kairoys exoyme antimetwpisei. Yparxoyn fysiologikes diekdikhseis kai ginontai kinhtopoihseis. Den einai h prwth fora. Exoyme jekaqarisei kai kati: Eidika fetos, logw ths kalhs poreias ths oikonomias, yphrje h dynatothta kai doqhkan oysiastikes paroxes. Gia paradeigma 2,3 dis eyrw exei h desmh twn koinwnikwn metrwn, h opoia kateyqynqhke kyriws stoys exontes th megalyterh anagkh. Otan, loipon, apo th qetikh poreia ths oikonomias diaqesame 2,3 dis eyrw se anergoys, xamhlomisqoys, agrotes, xamhlosyntajioyxoys, otan doqhkan, ws apotelesma toy dialogoy, shmantikes ayjhseis stoys alloys kladoys twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn, oi opoies -se orismenes periptwseis, opws stoys ekpaideytikoys- einai dyomish fores panw apo ton plhqwrismo, einai safes oti ejantloyntai ta oria ths oikonomias. As to katalaboyn oloi: Den qa yparjoyn peraiterw ayjhseis sta misqologia. Doqhkan, hdh, shmantikes ayjhseis kai mazi me to koinwniko paketo ejantlhqhkan kai ta oria poy yparxoyn. Qelw na pisteyw oti oi ergazomenoi qa to katanohsoyn ayto kai qa epideijoyn thn aparaithth koinwnikh ypeyqynothta. Me thn eykairia tonizw kai pali oti h siwph se tetoia zhthmata den einai xrysos. Prepei ola ta politika kommata na paroyn qesh. Eyqews. Prin apo ligo kairo stelexh ths N.D. elegan oti katastrefetai h oikonomia me th desmh twn koinwnikwn metrwn. Twra, poy ektos ths desmhs twn koinwnikwn metrwn doqhkan kai shmantikes ayjhseis sta misqologia, ti exoyn na poyn gia tis kinhtopoihseis;

SIDERHS: Anafereste synexeia sth qetikh poreia ths oikonomias. Pws krinete to gegonos oti ayjhqhke to pososto twn noikokyriwn poy blepoyn dysoiwno to oikonomiko mellon toys, symfwna me thn ereyna ths ICAP;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn kai alles ereynes poy lene diaforetika pragmata. Omiloyn gia megalyterh aisiodojia sto xwro ths oikonomias. Den mporw na elegjw to pws ginetai h kaqe ereyna h to deigma ths. Se kaqe, omws, periptwsh nomizw pws oloi oi Ellhnes katalabainoyn oti h qesh mas, ws Ellada, sthn oikonomia exei anabaqmistei. Bebaiws, yparxoyn akomh problhmata. Bebaiws, qeloyme na pame kalytera. Bebaiws, einai logiko kaqe anqrwpos, kaqe noikokyrio na diekdikei th beltiwsh ths oikonomikhs qeshs toy. Omws, pame kalytera kai toy xronoy qa pame akomh kalytera. Anaptyjh 4% den exei kamia eyrwpaikh xwra ayth th stigmh, me ejairesh isws thn Irlandia. H Ellada exei dekaplasio ryqmo anaptyjhs apo to meso oro ths E.E.. Kai deytero, shmeiwste oti sta elleimmata exoyme apo ta mikrotera. H oikonomia mas paroysiazei poly ygiesterh katastash kai poly megalytero dynamismo. Ayto einai, nai h oxi mia pragmatikothta; Emeis, leme nai. Kai ayto einai poy aitiologei thn aisiodojia mas kai gia megalyterh eyhmeria gia ton polith, thn epomenh tetraetia.

SIDERHS: Mia dieykrinistikh erwthsh: Exei h kybernhsh deiktes poy na deixnoyn poso apo ayto to pososto ths anaptyjhs ofeiletai sto KPS;

PRWTOPAPAS: To KPS htan gnwsto, dedomeno. To KPS epese sth xwra me kanena alejiptwto; Exete synhdeitopoihsei oti xarh stis energeies ths kybernhshs kai sthn epityxia poy exoyme deijei sthn oikonomia, ta teleytaia xronia, mporesame kai phrame ayto to paketo apo thn E.E.; Exete katanohsei oti an den yphrxe ayth h poreia kai ayth h dynatothta ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, to paketo ayto qa htan poly mikrotero; Exete, epishs, katanohsei oti oi poroi toy KPS einai peripoy oi misoi apo ekeinoys poy eisreoyn sth xwra gia ta erga, tis ypodomes kai ola ta alla prostiqentai apo eqnikh, kratikh kai idiwtikh xrhmatodothsh; H anaptyjh den ofeiletai mono sto KPS . Alla, kai to KPS einai katakthsh ths Elladas. Otan ginetai ena ergo, poly megalo meros ths xrhmatodothshs einai dhmosioi h idiwtikoi poroi, Ellhnwn, omws, oi opoioi symmetexoyn se ayto. Einai poroi poy anhkoyn sth xwra kai poy h xwra toys ajiopoiei kata ton kalytero tropo, apo o,ti sto parelqon. Na stamathsei, epiteloys, ayth h mizeria, h opoia diakatexei orismenes pleyres. Kai me thn eykairia na pw oti, epeidh shmera h N.D. exei mia diadikasia, ean xreiastei qa moy epitrecete na sas talaipwrhsw gia tis sxetikes apanthseis.

MIXAHL: Afoy pane toso kala ta qemata sthn oikonomia kai exete diakhryjei kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai eseis, oti ayto qa einai to isxyro xarti sas stis ekloges@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ena apo ta isxyra.

MIXAHL: Entajei. To isxyrotero, endexomenws. Qa dexqeite prin apo th syzhthsh toy Proypologismoy thn protash toy k. Karamanlh gia pro hmerhsias diatajews syzhthsh gia thn oikonomia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto qa syzhthqei mesa stis koinoboyleytikes diadikasies. Kyrie Mixahl, ston Proypologismo, ti syzhtame kat` arxhn;

MIXAHL: Thn oikonomia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Thn oikonomia. Wraia. Apanthsate.

MIXAHL: Miso lepto, omws: Afoy den fobaste gia to oti einai to isxyro xarti sas kai den to amfisbhteite, ti sas empodizei na kanete kai mia syzhthsh prin apo ton Proypologismo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na syzhthsoyme, dhladh, dyo fores ta idia pragmata.

MIXAHL: Kata ton k. Karamanlh, ayto qelei. Giati den to kanete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa to ektimhsoyme. Alla, eyxaristw gia thn parembash sas, giati to kanate safes: Na syzhthsoyme dyo fores ta idia pragmata. Htan pragmatika shmantikh h parembash sas.

MIXAHL: Egw; O k. Karamanlhs sas to zhtaei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den kathgorw esas. Mas bohqhsate na to anadeijoyme.

GIANNISHS: O toyrkikos Typos anaferei shmera se dhmosieymata toy oti h Ellada endexetai na mplokarei tis opoies diadikasies syzhthshs gia thn enarjh entajiakwn diapragmateysewn ths Toyrkias, an den yparjei proodos sto Kypriako mexri to Dekembrio toy 2004. Isxyei kati tetoio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai aytonohto. Exoyme pei, polles fores, oti h eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias perna mesa apo thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. To eipe o Prwqypoyrgos sth Qessalonikh. Oi Toyrkoi, anti na diapistwnoyn, as kanoyn kati pros thn kateyqynsh poy toys zhta h Dieqnhs Koinothta. Einai wra gia prajeis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kati sxetiko: O k. Erntogan, fainetai oti den akoyse ti toy eixe pei o Prwqypoyrgos, kata th synanthsh toy sth Rwmh, sxetika me thn entajh ths Toyrkias kai thn taytoxronh lysh toy Kypriakoy kai ekane kapoies dhlwseis, poy einai poly aysthres. Eipe, gia prwth fora, oti sta krithria ths Kopegxaghs den yparxei proypoqesh entajhs ths Toyrkias sthn E.E. me sygxronh epilysh toy Kypriakoy kai ekane logo gia dyo krath, dyo laoys kai dyo qrhskeies.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi apofaseis ths E.E. lene alla.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qelw na sxoliasete akribws ayto, to oti lene alla.

PRWTOPAPAS: Synistoyme ston k. Erntogan na diabazei kalytera tis apofaseis ths E.E..

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Xqes, gia prwth fora, o Ntenktas dhlwse oti ean stis ekloges toy Dekembrioy kerdisei h antipoliteysh twn toyrkokypriakwn kommatwn, qa qesei beto. Ayto shmainei oti ek twn proterwn mas anakoinwnei oti den qa apodexqei to apotelesma twn eklogwn. Kai ena trito qema: Toyrkika polemika aeroskafh parenoxlhsan, xqes, epibathgo aeroskafos twn kypriakwn aerogrammwn, to opoio eixe proorismo th Skotia kai to opoio pernoyse panw apo th Xio kai th Lesbo. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto den exei jekaqaristei akomh. Anejarthtws, omws, aytoy exoyme mia dedomenh stash ths Toyrkias. Exoyn ginei parenoxlhseis, parabiaseis, oloi to gnwrizete. Ekeino poy qelw na jekaqarisw einai oti qa ejakoloyqoyme na antimetwpizoyme aytes tis katastaseis, opws tis antimetwpizame mexri twra. Den exoyme logo na allajoyme taktikh. H Toyrkia den to kanei kai ektiqetai, den ektiqemeqa emeis.

Ws pros tis dhlwseis toy k. Ntenktas, einai gnwstes oi apoceis toy. Kai pragmatika, kaqe allagh twn sysxetismwn sta katexomena apo th diadikasia ths chfoforias, qa mporei na bohqhsei qetika ta symferonta ths toyrkokypriakhs Koinothtas. As to skeftei ayto h idia h Koinothta.

KARGOYDH: Hqela na rwthsw, ean ta syndikalistika stelexh sas exoyn yioqethsei apolytws thn proseggish poy kanete enanti ths ikanopoihshs twn aithmatwn twn ergazomenwn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den prepei na apeyqynete aytes tis erwthseis ston Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo. Qa prepei na apeyqynqeite sto Grafeio Typoy toy PASOK.

KARGOYDH: Einai yposthriktika stelexh ths kybernhtikhs politikhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai "yposthriktika stelexh" ths kybernhtikhs politikhs. Kainofanhs qewria, h opoia den antistoixei me thn pragmatikothta. Qa prepei na apeyqynqeite sto Komma.

KARGOYDH: H ADEDY, gia na to kanw pio sygkekrimeno...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ti qelete na peite;

KARGOYDH: Qelw na pw oti antilambanomaste apo dhmosiografikes plhrofories kai ektimhseis oti yparxoyn diaforopoihseis twn syndikalistikwn stelexwn sas, idiws ths ADEDY...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelete na peite twn syndikalistikwn stelexwn poy einai melh toy PASOK, giati alliws den to katalabainw.

KARGOYDH: Bebaiws, ayto ennow.

PRWTOPAPAS: Tote, na apeyqynete thn erwthsh sas sto komma.

MIXAHL: Den sas apasxolei to gegonos oti mia Omospondia twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn, ths opoias hgeitai diko sas stelexos, katebainei se apergia dioti diafwnei me thn politikh sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den katalabainw ti ennoeite.

MIXAHL: Na to pw pio apla. H ADEDY apofasise na kanei apergia. Poia einai h stash ths kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: H idia poy eixame ews twra. H kybernhsh exei jekaqarisei kai pros thn ADEDY kai pros oloys toys dhmosioys ypallhloys oti oi apofaseis ths gyrw apo ta misqologia einai oi telikes, dioti ayto ypagoreyoyn oi synqhkes ths Oikonomias. H Oikonomia pareixe dynatothtes, dwsame to koinwniko paketo 2,3 dis eyrw se osoys exoyn th megalyterh anagkh kai dwsame shmantikes ayjhseis stoys dhmosioys ypallhloys poy yperbainoyn -se orismenes periptwseis, opws stoys ekpaideytikoys- dyomish fores ton plhqwrismo. Einai oi shmantikoteres ayjhseis twn teleytaiwn dekaetiwn. Ayta einai ta oria ths ellhnikhs oikonomias shmera. Den qa allajoyme thn apofash mas. Kai den qa thn allajoyme, dioti an to kaname, qa to plhrwne arnhtika o ellhnikos laos, giati den qa yphrxe h idia qetikh poreia sthn oikonomia, epeidh qa eprepe na katafygoyme se daneismo. Loipon, den qa allajoyme thn apofash mas, me pisth oti ayth h poreia bohqa telika ton Ellhna polith. Qelw na kalesw toys ergazomenoys na epideijoyn thn armozoysa koinwnikh ypeyqynothta kai eyelpistoyme ws pros ayto. Epishs, qelw na kalesw kai ta alla politika kommata, pisteyontas baqia oti h siwph den einai xrysos se aytes tis periptwseis poy apasxoloyn qemata ton ellhniko lao, na paroyn qesh.

KWNSTANTHS: Yioqetei h kybernhsh ayto poy zhthse xqes o prwhn ypoyrgos kai nyn boyleyths k. Mantelhs, na epitrepontai ta tyxera paixnidia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Den exei tetoia apoch h kybernhsh. Bebaiws, einai dikaiwma kaqe boyleyth na paroysiazei sto Koinoboylio tis apoceis toy.

KWNSTANTHS: Epeidh sto parelqon gia ena paromoio qema, enas allos boyleyths o k. Xrysanqakopoylos eixe kathgorhqei kai eixe diagrafei. Emeine ektos Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh to ena qema me to allo. O k. Mantelhs kateqese mia protash sth Boylh, eyqarsws, opws exei dikaiwma ws boyleyths. Eipe thn apoch toy. Den shmainei oti thn yioqetoyme. Omws, einai apoch toy boyleyth kai stelexoys mas kai eteqh mesa apo tis diadikasies toy Koinoboylioy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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