Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-09-09

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Septembrioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qelw na sas ypenqymisw oti ayrio, meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, stis 2 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos qa paroysiasei sto Zappeio Megaro th Xarta Oikonomikhs kai Koinwnikhs Sygklishs.

Akoloyqws, qa ginei edw enhmerwsh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ayrio o k. Papandreoy metabainei sthn Kypro, opoy eixe programmatisei synanthsh me toys arxhgoys twn politikwn kommatwn ths toyrkokypriakhs pleyras, oi opoioi omws periergws, enw arxika eixan apodexqei, arnhqhkan ayth thn prosklhsh. Pws to ejhgeite kai pws sxoliazete ena tetoio gegonos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh ola ayta ejelissontai se mia krisimh periodo, pisteyw oti den qa htan xrhsimo na to sxoliasoyme. Poly orqa o k. Papandreoy ekane ayto to anoigma. Apo ekei kai pera, ean oi hgetes twn kommatwn kai enocei eklogwn sta katexomena exoyn tis dikes toys epiloges h en pash periptwsei tis dikes toys anagkes, einai ena qema to opoio den exoyme idiaitero logo na to krinoyme. Plhroforhqhka, omws, prin apo ligo, apo thn Kypro oti piqanon na apodexqoyn kapoia allh prosklhsh se mia allh ekdhlwsh poy qa einai omilhths o k. Papandreoy. Ara, ek twn pragmatwn, qa yparjei mia morfh syneyreshs h synanthshs. O k. Papandreoy ekane ayto poy eprepe. Einai poly shmantiko ayto to tajidi sthn Kypro. Proetoimazei th synanthsh poy qa ginei metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Qa antallajei apoceis me thn kypriakh hgesia kai sto plaisio ayto hqele na synanthsei kai toys toyrkokyprioys. Qa doyme pws qa ejelixqei h katastash.

BITALHS: Yparxoyn gia thn wra kapoies plhrofories, oxi apolyta epibebaiwmenes, oti xqes h Presbeia mas sth Madrith egine stoxos bombistikhs apopeiras. Qa hqela, kat` arxas, na mas peite an epalhqeyontai oi plhrofories aytes kai ti akribws exei ginei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Egine kapoia prospaqeia apo kapoioys, toys opoioys pros to paron den gnwrizoyme. Apestalh ena paketo sto opoio yphrxe ekrhktikos mhxanismos, apo o,ti fainetai. Thn ypoqesh xeirizontai oi arxes asfaleias ths Ispanias.

BITALHS: Epeidh den einai h prwth fora poy h Presbeia mas sth Madrith exei ginei "stoxos" kapoias apopeiras -nomizw prin apo ena xrono egine kati paromoio me mia epistolh- gia ta metra asfaleias poy yparxoyn poioi einai ypeyqynoi telika; Einai h ispanikh pleyra poy eprepe na eixe labei kapoia enisxymena metra, eimaste emeis me tis...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yphrje telika kanena problhma.

BITALHS: Epeidh, kata tyxh, to anakalyce kapoios dikos mas ypallhlos...

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme parei metra asfaleias. Den einai tyxaio oti h kinhsh ayth apokalyfqhke. Apo ekei kai pera, fysika, panta enisxyoyme ta metra asfaleias kai prostateyoyme tis Presbeies mas. Oi ispanikes arxes asfaleias qa ejetasoyn kai to kommati poy afora th dikh toys dikaiodosia.

IWANNOY: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite - shmera o Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias- poio htan to antikeimeno ths synanthshs; Htan h koinwnikh Xarta, poy anamenetai na paroysiasei h mporei na exei sxesh kai me tis ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Protrexete! Einai kalo na eimaste eyfantastoi, alla oxi kai toso poly! Molis proxqes, o Prwqypoyrgos jekaqarise oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn thn anoijh toy 2004. Giati prepei na to leme synexeia; Htan h kaqierwmenh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Yphrje mia enhmerwsh apo ton Prwqypoyrgo pros ton Proedro gia tis kybernhtikes proteraiothtes kai epiloges. Yparxoyn sxetikes dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

PEGKOS: Sth Qessalonikh, o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti den qa yparjei neo paketo metrwn. Wstoso, shmera, diabazoyme sthn efhmerida "TA NEA", dhlwseis toy yfypoyrgoy Ergasias R. Spyropoyloy, oti h kybernhsh etoimazetai na kocei tis eisfores sto IKA kata 30%. Den einai en hdh paketoy ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na jekaqarisw oti to Asfalistiko exei kleisei. Yparxei h lysh, h opoia doqhke, poy epidoteitai -kai malista gennaia apo ton kratiko Proypologismo- symfwna me tis apofaseis poy lhfqhkan to 2002. Yparxoyn, bebaia, diafores skeceis kai idees, oi opoies den aforoyn ayth th xronikh periodo, aforoyn to mellon. Ayto qelw na to shmeiwsw. Oles aytes oi skeceis kai idees qa syzhthqoyn me anesh xronoy sthn Epitroph Dialogoy poy exei dhmioyrghqei sto ypoyrgeio Ergasias. Yparxei mia Eqnikh Epitroph Apasxolhshs me th symmetoxh twn koinwnikwn etairwn, poy syzhta ola ta zhthmata poy aptontai toy koinwnikoy tomea. Se ayth thn Epitroph mporei na ginei kai mia tetoia syzhthsh, me tetoies skeceis, idees kai protaseis kai na doyme me poio tropo qa proxwrhsoyn. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, den afora th sygkekrimenh xronikh periodo. Ayta aforoyn to mellon. Gi@ ayth th sygkekrimenh xronikh periodo to Asfalistiko exei kleisei qetika me to nomo poy perase h kybernhsh.

POYLIDOY: Exw diabasei tis qeseis ths Gallias kai ths Germanias gia to Irak, oi opoies lene oti sto kainoyrgio chfisma poy qa prepei na ekdwsei to Symboylio Asfaleias, qa prepei na yparxei xronodiagramma gia thn epistrofh ths eqnikhs kyriarxias sto Irak. Den exw maqei th qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs ep@ aytoy. Mporeite na mas thn peite;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safhs kai idiaitera epimonh. Qewroyme oti oi opoies ejelijeis kai oi prwtoboylies poy qa analhfqoyn apo ton OHE, prepei na syndeontai kai me thn epitaxynsh ths diadikasias epistrofhs ths eqnikhs kyriarxias sto Irak.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Yparxei mia epistolh toy ekproswpoy Typoy ths N.D. k. Roysopoyloy gia ton tropo me ton opoio ta MME xeiristhkan dhmosiografika tis dhmoskophseis poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas. Yparxei kapoios sxoliasmos apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto ejhgei thn agwnia toy k. Roysopoyloy kai ths N.D. mprosta sth seira twn dhmoskophsewn poy eginan kai oi opoies oles symfwnoysan oti ayth h politikh ths N.D. peri dhqen "filodwrhmatwn", "cixoylwn" kai allwn poy akoysthkan, den eixan kamia sxesh me th gnwmh kai th qelhsh toy ellhnikoy laoy. Opws eidate, oi polites symfwnhsan h symfwnoyn me thn kateyqynsh aytwn twn metrwn, ta opoia qewroyn shmantika. Ayto katagrafhke, oxi se mia, alla se tesseris dhmoskophseis. Den katalabainw to problhma toy k. Roysopoyloy. Qelei na mh leme thn alhqeia; Apo ekei kai pera, qewrw oti ta MME -kai eidikotera h ERT- xeirizontai panta, me idiaiterh prosoxh, ola ta qemata, katagrafontas oles tis apoceis (einai ypoxrewmena, ejalloy) kai bebaiws stekontai me idiaitero sebasmo kai sthn apoch ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, opws panta. Qelw, omws, na parathrhsw - gia na mhn adikoyme, isws, se kapoia shmeia th N.D.- oti sthn epistolh ths den anaferetai se sygkekrimena Mesa. Me thn idia logikh, qa mporoysa na pw oti yphrje kai diamartyria apo orismenes efhmerides, teleiws antiqeth, gia enan allon kratiko forea -to APE- oti, enw o k. Roysopoylos leei oti htan merolhptikh yper ths mias apochs, yphrxan alloi poy elegan oti htan merolhptikh yper ths allhs. Kai malista, egina koinwnos aytwn twn diamartyriwn. Ti shmainei ayto; Shmainei oti qa prepei -opws tonisa pros oles tis kateyqynseis- na katalaboyme oti oloi aytoi oi anqrwpoi kanoyn th doyleia toys oso mporoyn kalytera. H ERT eidika, alla kai to APE, exoyn kanei megala bhmata sthn kateyqynsh ths polyfwnias, ths dhmokratias, toy ployralismoy kai ths ajiopistias. Apo ekei kai pera, prepei na ta bohqhsoyme na oloklhrwsoyn ayth thn poreia. Na mh stekomaste me dyspistia apenanti stis prospaqeies toys, metrwntas me th "mezoyra" an yparxei ena deyterolepto ligotero ston enan h ton allon.

POYLIDOY: Gia logoys tajhs, na dieykrinistei oti sto APE eixe perasei h dhmoskophsh ths sygkekrimenhs efhmeridas, otan eixe...

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti eginan diamartyries, alla prepei na antilambanomaste oti diamartyries ginontai apo oles tis pleyres. Den mporei na yparxei "mezoyra" kai na metrame an o enas milhse 20 deyterolepta kai o allos 19. Kai to APE kai h ERT exoyn kanei terastia bhmata ston tomea ths ajiopistias, toy ployralismoy kai ths Dhmokratias. Kai ayto prepei na to katalaboyme, na to enisxyoyme.

BITALHS: Kyrie ekproswpe, an qymamai kala, sthn epistolh toy o k. Roysopoylos qigei to qema ths mh metadoshs ths dhmoskophshs poy afora proqesh chfoy. Se ayto to shmeio exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: An den kanw laqos, yphrxan 4-5 dhmoskophseis to Sabbatokyriako. Den nomizw oti einai dynato mesa se ena deltio eidhsewn na paroysiastoyn analytika pente dhmoskophseis. Profanws qa egine mia synoptikh anafora se oles. An twra kapoion symferei h mia kai den symferoyn oi alles tesseris, as katalabei oti den einai ypoxrewmenos o opoiosdhpote organismos -kai epanalambanw oti den leei kai se ti anaferetai- na kanei to xatiri toy. Prepei me antikeimeniko kai ployralistiko tropo na staqei se oles. Otan yparxoyn pente dhmokophseis qa anaferqoyn perilhptika kai oi pente. Den einai dynato na anaferqoyn se aythn poy qelei kapoios, epeidh krinei oti ton symferei perissotero apo tis alles tesseris. Den einai antilhch ayth.

KARGOYDH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Prwqypoyrgos sth Qessalonikh epekrine tis qeseis ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs gia thn ejwterikh politikh, eite gia thn oysia toys, eite gia thn asafeia toys. Xqes, yphrje mia dhlwsh - apanthsh toy k. Molybiath stis epikriseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Hqela na rwthsw ean kalypteste apo ayth th dhlwsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Molybiaths, ws stelexos ths N.D., apanthse profanws me arnhtiko tropo stis dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den einai h prwth fora poy stelexh ths N.D. kritikaroyn, eite ton Prwqypoyrgo, eite kybernhtika stelexh. Ti na kanoyme; Ayta exei h dhmokratia. Den mporoyme na asxolhqoyme me oles tis dhlwseis.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Prwqypoyrgos jekaqarise oti den qa yparxei allo paketo metrwn h paroxwn. Ayrio, loipon, anamenetai na paroysiasei thn Koinwnikh Xarta kai dedomenoy oti h Xarta erxetai na prosteqei sto prwto paketo metrwn kai olo ayto ti antikrisma qa exei stoys polites;

PRWTOPAPAS: H Xarta Oikonomikhs kai Koinwnikhs Sygklishs einai ena epixeirhsiako sxedio gia thn epomenh tetraetia. Pws, dhladh, qa sygklinoyme se oloys toys krisimoys tomeis, sthn oikonomia kai thn koinwnia, me thn Eyrwph. Pws qa sygklinoyme sthn oikonomia kai thn antagwnistikothta kai pws qa ekmetalleytoyme th qetikh poreia ths oikonomias kai ths ayjhshs toy AEP gia na sygklinoyme sthn apasxolhsh, thn koinwnikh prostasia, thn ekpaideysh, to biotiko epipedo. Qa desmeytoyme se ariqmoys, se sygkekrimenoys stoxoys kai me th bohqeia kai synergia toy ellhnikoy laoy qa toys kanoyme prajh. Ayth einai h politikh mas, to sxedio mas, h strathgikh mas gia thn epomenh tetraetia, me prospaqeia poy arxizei apo twra. Safws, ta koinwnika metra poy qa efarmostoyn apo 1.1.2004, me ejairesh ta dyo poy efarmozontai apo twra, synteinoyn sthn poreia gia thn oikonomikh kai koinwnikh sygklish, xwris na shmainei oti einai monon ayta.

IWANNOY: Aytoi oi stoxoi, einai programmatikes qeseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: As poyme oti einai epixeirhsiakes programmatikes qeseis.

IWANNOY: Aytoi oi stoxoi aforoyn to kybernhtiko ergo kai einai mia eswterikh doyleia. Se ti afora ayto ton polith, an den einai mia apofash poy qa lhfqei@

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai eswterikh doyleia h strathgikh gia na ftasei to biotiko epipedo mas to eyrwpaiko;

IWANNOY: Oxi, alla ayto einai kati poy prepei na ginei mesa sthn kybernhsh. Afora ton polith na to maqei ayrio; Einai programmatikes, einai kybernhtikes qeseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: O poliths den prepei na maqei se ti desmeyomaste kai poio einai to sxedio mas gia to mellon toy; Ayth th stigmh to PASOK -symfwna me thn katagrafh poy egine stis ekloges toy 2000- einai to megalytero politiko komma kai diekdikei thn chfo toy ellhnikoy laoy gia na ginei kybernhsh kai thn epomenh tetraetia. Qa apofasisei o ellhnikos laos thn anoijh toy 2004. Gia na apofasisei den ton afora poio einai to epixeirhsiako sxedio, to programma kai h strathgikh toy kommatos mas gia thn eyhmeria toy; Kat` ejoxhn ton afora. Ayto einai ekeino gia to opoio prepei na endiaferontai oi polites. Den einai to life style.

GARGALAKOS: Diafores koinwnikes omades, idiaitera aytes poy anhkoyn sta legomena eidika misqologia, me toys ekproswpoys toys deixnoyn oti qa diekdikhsoyn aithmata, misqologikes ayjhseis, oxi mono panw apo thn eisodhmatikh politikh ths kybernhshs, alla poly panw. Deixnoyn kai apofasismenes, aytes oi koinwnikes omades, gia kinhtopoihseis kai sygkroyseis endexomenws me thn kybernhsh. Ayto to skhniko anhsyxei kaqoloy to kybernhtiko epiteleio;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh endiaferetai na syzhta kai na prospaqei na brei tis kalyteres dynates lyseis gia ta problhmata twn koinwnikwn omadwn. Katanooyme oloi oti yparxoyn diekdikhseis kai apo toys ekpaideytikoys kai apo to xwro twn Swmatwn Asfaleias kai apo alloys. Me to xeri sthn kardia, me kaqarh syneidhsh kai me qetikh proqesh koybentiazoyme mazi toys, prokeimenoy na broyme tis kalyteres dynates lyseis, alla panta mesa stis dynatothtes poy dhmioyrgei to sygkekrimeno oikonomiko periballon. Oi diapragmateyseis aytes qa ginoyn, qa proxwrhsoyn kai qa ejelixqoyn. Na eiste bebaioi oti qa kanoyme to kalytero dynato, sto plaisio poy epitrepei h oikonomia. Qelw na pisteyw oti, me ypeyqyno tropo, qa staqoyn kai oi sygkekrimenes koinwnikes omades. Den epidiwkoyme th sygkroysh. Epidiwkoyme thn ejeyresh qetikwn lysewn. Qeloyme na elpizoyme oti kai ta politika kommata den qa kanoyn alloy eidoys kinhseis.

MPOTWNHS: Gi` aytes tis omades twn ergazomenwn poy eipate, shmainei oti den exoyn ayth thn anagkh th dedomenh stigmh kai den symperilhfqhkan sto koinwniko paketo;

PRWTOPAPAS: To koinwniko paketo exei treis parametroys: Th diaxronikothta poy analysame. Prin apo ligo, sas eipa gia to asfalistiko toy 2002 oti einai 600 dis draxmes. Th sxesh me thn oikonomia, giati h xrhmatodothsh prokyptei apo th qetikh poreia ths. Kai th stoxeysh. To koinwniko paketo stoxeyei na bohqhsei toys oikonomika adynamoys. Ayto den shmainei oti enas o opoios anhkei se mia anwterh eisodhmatika kathgoria den qa parei ayjhsh. Allo to ena kai allo to allo. Omws, se ekeines tis periptwseis, oi opoies oikonomikes paroxes doqoyn qa einai sto plaisio poy antexei h oikonomia. Pantote, bebaiws, me qetikh diaqesh, se sxesh me ta problhmata, apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs.

PEGKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to rezerboyar toy aytokinhtoy sas qa to gemisete shmera;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, qewrw oti prepei oloi na kanoyme otidhpote gia na mporei kaqe poliths na exei gemato to rezerboyar toy kai na mh dhmioyrgoyntai problhmata se enan tetoio eyaisqhto tomea. Epeidh, loipon, mas endiaferoyn oi polites proxwrame kai shmera se synanthseis gia ejeyresh lyshs sta zhthmata poy qetoyn oi benzinopwles. Den qeloyme na pisteyoyme oti yparxei opoiadhpote kathgoria ergazomenwn poy exei na krycei otidhpote kai idiaitera se sxesh me ta forologika zhthmata. Yparxei epafh kai me to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn kai me to ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs. Qa prospaqhsoyme, me kalh diaqesh, na broyme mia lysh, poy na dieykolynei th doyleia twn benzinopwlwn. Alla, bebaiws, prepei kai o ellhnikos laos na gnwrizei oti -opws se oles tis periptwseis- yparxei h prostasia toy dhmosioy symferontos, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh ths diasfalishs twn esodwn toy kratoys. Eimaste ena eynomoymeno kratos.

Sas eyxaristw.

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