Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-06-13

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 13 Ioynioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Eisagwgika, qelw na tonisw to idiaitera qetiko gegonos ths paroysiashs apo ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs K. Skandalidh, toy periexomenoy toy sxedioy nomoy poy qa prowqhsei gia tis allages sto dhmosio tomea. Thn idia wra poy kapoioi miloyn aorista, aprogrammatista kai genikologa peri dhqen epanidryshs toy kratoys, thn idia wra h kybernhsh apodeiknyei sthn prajh oti merimna, prowqei metra gia ton eksygxronismo ths dhmosias dioikhshs, thn kalyterh sxesh ths me ton polith kai thn kalyterh apodosh twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn. Ta metra ayta, sta opoia anaferqhke o k. Skandalidhs, exoyn syzhthqei sto parelqon kai sth diakommatikh kai me tis syndikalistikes organwseis twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn, me tis opoies, bebaiws, qa ginoyn kai alles syzhthseis kai syntoma, mesa apo thn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia, qa exoyme thn eykairia na ta syzhthsoyme kai sthn eqnikh antiproswpeia.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Qa hqela na mas peite, ti ginetai me ayton ton perifhmo "maqhmatiko typo", mesw toy opoioy katanemontai ta dhmosia erga, kaqoti kai dhmosieymata yparxoyn oti h kybernhsh ton anaskeyazei h to exei zhthsei h E.E., alla yparxei kai mia erwthsh toy k. Kefalogiannh sth Boylh poy malista thn koinopoihse kai ston k. Kroystallakh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Edw exoyme dyo epipeda topoqethshs. To ena afora thn oysia toy qematos. Yparxei mia apofash ths ypoyrgoy PEXWDE B. Papandreoy, h opoia exei stalei sthn Efhmerida ths Kybernhsews -apo o,ti exw plhroforhqei- poy dinei th dynatothta na aitiologoyntai oi poly xamhles prosfores. Einai, omws, ena qema poy analytika qa paroysiasei kai h ypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh genikotera, sto plaisio ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias, dedomenoy oti yparxoyn kai sxetikes erwthseis. Ara, sthn oysia toy qematos, qa yparjei analytikh topoqethsh apo to YPEXWDE kai thn kaq@ ylhn armodia ypoyrgo, poy pisteyw oti qa dwsei olh th sxetikh enhmerwsh poy xreiazetai gia ena tetoio qema.

Yparxei, omws, kai ena qema poy fainetai epi ths diadikasias kai den anaferomai sthn oysia toy qematos. Qelw na to katasthsw safes ayto. Anaferomai se ena qema poy ek prwths ocews fainetai epi ths diadikasias, alla krybei mia baqia perifronhsh toy Koinoboylioy kai mia baqia perifronhsh toy politikoy dialogoy. Einai h energeia toy k. Manwlh Kefalogiannh na koinopoihsei thn erwthsh poy apeyqyne stoys armodioys ypoyrgoys, pros ton k. Eyaggelo Kroystallakh, ton eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy. Kai malista, me koinopoihsh poy anaferei sto keimeno ths erwthshs. H energeia ayth apadei stis koinoboyleytikes diadikasies. Ypobaqmizei idiaitera ton koinoboyleytiko dialogo. Deixnei baqia perifronhsh sthn ennoia toy koinoboyleytikoy kai politikoy dialogoy. Den einai dynato na ginetai enas dialogos sth Boylh kai na yparxei eyqeia apeilh me eisaggelea. Ti eidoys politikos dialogos einai aytos; Fysika, kanenas den prokeitai na tromajei me aytoy toy eidoys tis apeiles toy k. Kefalogiannh. Alla, ayto to gegonos ypobaqmizei ton politiko dialogo. Deixnei oti o boyleyths aytos -kai elpizw h N.D. na mhn ton kalycei, dioti an ton kalycei qa einai synypeyqynh- den sebetai to Koinoboylio kai tis diadikasies toy. Kai bebaiws, aytoy toy typoy oi ypodeijeis pros th Dikaiosynh nomizw oti apadoyn kai pros to kyros ths Dikaiosynhs, h opoia kanei poly kala th doyleia ths kai, opoy xreiazetai kai ektima oti prepei na epembei, epembainei. Den einai dynato na taytizetai mia koinoboyleytikh diadikasia, mia erwthsh pros toys armodioys ypoyrgoys mesa apo tis diadikasies toy Koinoboylioy, me prosfygh ston eisaggelea, poy anaferetai, malista, sto idio keimeno. Eipa oti anaferomai sthn antilhch toy k. Kefalogiannh. Epi ths oysias qa yparjei, bebaiws, apanthsh kai dialogos. Hdh, h ka Papandreoy proxwrei stis sxetikes energeies.

GARGALAKOS: O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy oysiastika zhthse, enocei twn prwtoboyliwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy, na yparjei kai allagh pleyshs sthn oikonomia kai na doqei emfash ston tomea ths anaptyjhs. Dhladh, zhta allagh politikwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn ermhneyete ta stelexh mas kai tis dhlwseis toys. Einai laqos na prospaqoyme na ermhneyoyme ta stelexh mas kai tis dhlwseis toys. Yparxei mia synolikh topoqethsh toy k. Papandreoy panw sth sygkyria, h opoia ektimw oti symballei sto ergo mas. As mhn koboyme kommatia, prospaqwntas na thn parermhneysoyme.

ARGYROS: O k. Papandreoy eipe oti...

PRWTOPAPAS: An parete kommataki-kommataki, profanws qa bgalete ena diaforetiko periexomeno apo ayto poy eipe.

ARGYROS: Eipe oti den synista o anasxhmatismos proswpwn, tomh. Symfwneite mazi toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: An deite th synolikh topoqethsh toy k. Papandreoy, h opoia egine se radiostaqmo ths Aqhnas, qa deite oti einai mia topoqethsh poy symballei sth genikoterh prospaqeia mas. Einai laqos, kata th gnwmh moy, na epixeirhsoyme na krinoyme, ayth th stigmh, tmhmata, apomonwnontas to ena apo to allo. O kaqenas qa mporoyse na symfwnhsei h na symplhrwsei se kapoia apo ayta. Alla, ayto den einai swsto. Swsto einai na deis th synolikh topoqethsh, poy symballei sthn prospaqeia mas.

BITALHS: Kai sto shmeio, alla den qa to parw ws shmeio, alla ws oloklhrwmeno skeptiko, leei o k. Papandreoy oti apo monos toy o anasxhmatismos den synista megalh tomh. Leei parakatw oti xreiazomaste dialogo me thn koinwnia, me toys foreis, gia beltiwmenes politikes kai prooptikes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Omilei gia beltiwseis sthn politikh mas kai gia tomes. Mporei kaneis na exei antirrhsh gia beltiwseis kai politikes tomes; Einai allo ayto kai allo na emfanizoyme oti exoyme kati teleiws kainoyrgio jafnika. Gi@ ayto sas lew, deite th synolikh topoqethsh kai qa antilhfqeite oti einai mia prospaqeia symbolhs. Ejalloy, sto qewrhtiko, ean enas anasxhmatismos apo monos toy lynei ola ta problhmata, poios mporei na pei oti ta lynei; An to deite kai qewrhtika akomh, den prokalei kanena qema. Alla, qa elega oti to synolo ths topoqethshs erxetai na symbalei sthn prospaqeia mas.

ANTYPAS: O k. Papandreoy edwse mia politikh synenteyjh, o k. Shmiths apo to ejwteriko dieykrinise me kathgorhmatiko tropo oti den endiaferetai gia Proedros ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs. Apo o,ti fainetai, sto PASOK, sthn kybernhsh arxizete na janaasxoleiste me ta eswterika qemata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pantote asxoloymaste me ta eswterika qemata kai oydepote ta egkataleicame.

ANTYPAS: Oi dhmoskophseis deixnoyn, bebaia, oti xreiazetai akomh na perpathsete poly dromo...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ton dianysoyme.

ANTYPAS: Peran toy anasxhmatismoy, o opoios qewreitai apo oloys dedomenos...

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo poioys;

ANTYPAS: Kai apo ton k. Papandreoy, poy leei oti den lynei enas anasxhmatismos ta pragmata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Prosejte tis dhlwseis kala.

ANTYPAS: Peran toy anasxhmatismoy, yparxei allo plaisio politikwn prwtoboyliwn, to opoio mporeite na mas anakoinwsete ayth th stigmh, enocei toy Ioylioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Krinete oti qa mporoysa na anakoinwsw plaisio politikwn prwtoboyliwn, poy exei krathsei o Prwqypoyrgos gia na to anakoinwsei o idios;

ANTYPAS: Yparxei;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei anaferqei sto plaisio politikwn prwtoboyliwn, poy qa anakoinwsei meta th lhjh ths Proedrias. Einai dynaton pote na ginoyn proanakoinwseis;

ANTYPAS: Jeroyme pote;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opote epilejei o idios.

BITALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos den kolakeyetai apo oles aytes tis parotrynseis pollwn Eyrwpaiwn hgetwn gia na diadramatisei kapoion eyrwpaiko rolo, wste na janadei pio zesta to qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Aytoi poy deixnoyn tosh agwnia -den to lew gia sas, bebaiws- gia na paei o Prwqypoyrgos sthn Eyrwph, oysiastika einai ekeinoi poy den qeloyn na einai o k. Shmiths parwn stis ekloges. Kai ayto, dioti gnwrizoyn oti einai to megalo oplo mas, oti exei thn apodoxh toy ellhnikoy laoy kai oti mazi toy mporoyme na kerdisoyme tis epomenes ekloges. Aytoi oi opoioi proballoyn toso entona to endiaferon toys einai aytoi poy den qeloyn to kalo toy PASOK kai thn prooptikh nikhs stis ekloges.

KARGOYDH: Meta to sxolio sas gia thn praktikh toy k. Kefalogiannh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ws praktikh ths koinopoihshs to ekrina, dioti einai dikaiwma toy na kanei erwthsh.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh prosfata kai o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs eixe krinei thn praktikh toy k. Mhtsotakh, oson afora th stash toy enanti ths Dikaiosynhs, hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh ektima oti h antipoliteysh synolika exei ena sxedio emplokhs ths Dikaiosynhs eyqews me ta politika pragmata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa kai proxqes -kai anaferomoyn sth N.D.- oti opoios nomizei oti mporei mikrokommatika na ekmetalleytei th Dikaiosynh qa apogohteytei oiktra. Qelw na elpizw oti tetoia fainomena den qa emfanistoyn to amesws epomeno diasthma. H Dikaiosynh kanei poly kala th doyleia kai den exei anagkh apo ypoboleis, pantos typoy kai pantos eidoys kai oyte mporei na empleketai se tetoioy eidoys mikrokommatika paixnidia.

MIXAHL: Pote qa ginei Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gia thn topoqethsh twn newn proedrwn kai eisaggelewn sta anwtata dikasthria;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos den exei kaqorisei pote qa synedriasoyn ta kybernhtika organa. Thn epomenh ebdomada, omws, apokleietai, dioti exoyme th Synodo Koryfhs.

POYLIDOY: Epeidh lete oti h Dikaiosynh kanei poly kala th doyleia ths, qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean exete ypoch sas oti o k. Xristodoylakhs prin apo merikoys mhnes eixe zhthsei apo ton eisaggelea na kinhsei th diadikasia gia 2.500 ypoqeseis poy eixe o idios dwsei sthn Eisaggelia. Kai mia deyterh erwthsh: O k. Cwmiadhs ejakoloyqei na noshleyetai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to deytero, den gnwrizw. An qymamai kala, yphrxan kapoies ejelijeis. Ayth h ypoqesh afora ton k. Cwmiadh kai th Dikaiosynh. O k. Cwmiadhs exei katadikastei gia thn ypoqesh ths sykofantikhs dysfhmishs kata toy Kwsta Laliwth. Exei apodeixqei h proqesh na dhmioyrghsei qema ekei poy den yphrxe kai exei apodeixqei h proqesh na sykofanthsei to Grammatea toy PASOK. Ola ayta, bebaiws, ta gnwrizei o ellhnikos laos.

POYLIDOY: Kykloforei ws fymatikos.

PRWTOPAPAS: An den kanw laqos yparxei mia apofash toy Dikastikoy Symboylioy, h opoia toy epitrepei na kykloforei.

POYLIDOY: Logw fymatiwshs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Yparxei mia apofash poy exei bgalei to Dikastiko Symboylio, h opoia toy epitrepei na kykloforei. Twra, an kalws h kakws ebgale thn apofash to Dikastiko Symboylio, exete to dikaiwma na to krinete. Alla, otan lew oti h Dikaiosynh kanei kala th doyleia ths, den anaferqhka sthn periptwsh toy kyrioy a@ h b@. Anaferomai sth genikh prospaqeia poy ginetai. Ejalloy, gi@ ayto htan kai ta grammata poy estalhsan gia epitaxynsh twn ypoqesewn. Kai o k. Kroystallakhs antapokriqhke tote sth genikh prospaqeia poy ginetai na jekaqaristoyn mia seira apo ypoqeseis. Gi@ ayto kai o k. Petsalnikos perase kai to nomo gia thn epitaxynsh twn diadikastikwn zhthmatwn poy syndeontai me thn apodosh dikaiosynhs, gia na mporei na parembainei pio grhgora. Ayth th stigmh, den qeloyme na kanoyme diaforetikh ektimhsh. Oyte to problhma mas einai h Dikaiosynh. Oso pio hsyxh afhsoyme th Dikaiosynh na kanei th doyleia ths, toso to kalytero. To problhma mas einai oti emfanizontai orismenoi apo th N.D. ws ypoboleis pros th Dikaiosynh kai ayto einai aparadekto. Den mporei o k. Kefalogiannhs na syndeei -kai malista me wmo tropo, aytoy toy typoy- mia koinoboyleytikh kai politikh diadikasia me thn apeilh ths Dikaiosynhs. Prwton, me ayto ton tropo ypobaqmizetai o koinoboyleytikos dialogos. Den yparxei, dhladh, logos na ginetai ayto, symfwna me aytes tis antilhceis. Deyteron, mia politikh diadikasia ypobaqmizetai kai ekfylizetai. Emfanizetai kapoios ws ypoboleas pros ton eisaggelea toy Areioy Pagoy. Prepei na katalabei poly kala kai aytos kai h N.D. -omilw, bebaiws, gia ton k. Kefalogiannh- oti kai o laos gnwrizei poly kala kai katalabainei ti ginetai me aytoy toy eidoys tis antilhceis. Sas janalew, oti den anaferomai sthn oysia. Ayth qa apanthqei mesa apo tis koinoboyleytikes diadikasies. Anaferomai sthn praktikh.

LAMPRAKOS: Emfanisthkan, xqes, sthn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs kapoies apokalyceis apo dyo eisaggeleis oti h Ellada einai h xwra poy "jeplenei" brwmiko xrhma.

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn diafores apoceis. Apo ekei kai pera, den shmainei oti h Ellada einai h xwra sthn opoia "jeplenetai" brwmiko xrhma. Emeis exoyme kanei toys qesmoys, yparxoyn oi kanonismoi, exoyn dhmioyrghqei organa, exoyn doqei entoles, prokeimenoy na prolaboyme to "jeplyma" brwmikoy xrhmatos. Bebaiws, panta yparxoyn aytes oi prospaqeies apo orismenoys kai den afora mono thn Ellada, alla oles tis xwres. Se oles tis xwres yparxei synergasia gia thn antimetwpish toy "jeplymatos" toy brwmikoy xrhmatos. Einai enas kindynos poy afora oles tis xwres. Gia opoiondhpote epixeirei na kanei ayth thn prospaqeia, yparxoyn diadikasies, organa, qesmoi gia na to antimetwpisoyme. Einai mia diarkhs maxh. Yparxei o antipodas, alla exoyme kai emeis ta opla na ton polemhsoyme.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo trihmero.

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