Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-06-04

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 4 Ioynioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Shmera, stis 11.30 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos, mazi me ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs M. Xrysoxoidh, phge sto Astynomiko Tmhma toy Agioy Pantelehmonos, opoy enhmerwqhke gia to neo qesmo "O astynomikos ths geitonias", poy arxise na leitoyrgei apo tis 17 Martioy. Yparxei sxetikh dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Stis 12.30, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh kai ton oikonomiko symboylo toy k. Xardoybelh.

Me thn eykairia ayth, shmeiwnw th xqesinh qetikh ejelijh poy eixame sto EKOFIN, dhladh thn epiteyjh symfwnias se ena krisimo qema poy apasxoloyse, gia poly kairo, thn Eyrwph: Th forologhsh twn kataqesewn politwn orismenwn xwrwn ths E.E., oi opoies briskontai se trites xwres.

Ayrio, apo tis 10 to prwi kai meta, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei diadoxikes synanthseis me thn politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, toy ypoyrgeioy Typoy kai isws -an xreiastei- allwn ypoyrgeiwn, gia qemata poy syndeontai me th Synodo Koryfhs sth Xalkidikh. To apogeyma, qa anaxwrhsei gia to Parisi.

Thn Paraskeyh, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Gallikhs Dhmokratias Zak Sirak kai to brady me ton Proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Syneleyshs Baleri Ziskar nt@ Esten.

To Sabbato, o Prwqypoyrgos qa epistrecei sthn Aqhna.

Thn Trith (10/6) ews to Sabbato (14/6), o k. Shmiths qa anaxwrhsei gia to teleytaio "gyro twn prwteyoyswn". Qa episkefqei thn Ollandia, to Belgio, to Loyjemboyrgo, th Germania, thn Aystria. Stis Bryjelles, qa exei kai synanthsh me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Ti perimenete, shmera, apo th syzhthsh sth Boylh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na anadeixqei h pragmatikh poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, h poreia gia thn anaptyjh ths, thn enisxysh toy dynamismoy kai ths antagwnistikothtas ths kai h krish ths qetikhs apodoshs ths ellhnikhs oikonomias gia perissoterh kai kalyterh koinwnikh politikh kai enisxysh ths apasxolhshs, opws akribws einai o kybernhtikos programmatismos.

ARGYROS: Protiqetai o Prwqypoyrgos na syndesei ayto poy eipe sthn Kentrikh Epitroph gia thn anatroph ths kybernhshs apo epixeirhmatika symferonta, me onomata;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei kanei tis anafores toy sthn Kentrikh Epitroph kai bebaiws oi anafores poy ekane gia thn oikonomia isxyoyn kai qa apotelesoyn kai to politiko plaisio ths topoqethshs toy kai shmera. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws qa kanei mia synolikh anafora sthn poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Qa ejhghsei giati ayth h poreia odhgei staqera sthn anaptyjh kai thn antagwnistikothta. Qa milhsei gia ta metra enisxyshs toy dynamismoy ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, opws htan kai h prosfath sygxwneysh twn ELPE me thn PETROLA. Qa anaferqei kai sta problhmata poy yparxoyn, alla kai stis protaseis mas kai sthn prospaqeia mas gia thn epilysh toys. Kai bebaiws, qa tonisei th syndesh ths qetikhs apodoshs ths ellhnikhs oikonomias me thn apasxolhsh kai thn koinwnikh politikh. Qa anaferqei, epishs, kai stis diafores poy mas xwrizoyn, se ayton ton idiaitera krisimo kai eyaisqhto tomea gia to mellon toy topoy kai ths koinwnias mas, me to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

IWANNOY: Epeidh polla akoygontai, qa doyme mia "kokoromaxia", shmera to brady;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas edwsa thn entypwsh, me thn topoqethsh moy, peri "kokoromaxias"; Oi "kokoromaxies" einai qeamata. Edw, qa milhsoyme gia ton arto.

LAMPRAKOS: Anaferqhkate sth sygxwneysh twn ELPE me thn PETROLA. Qelw na sas rwthsw: Xqes, o k. Lafazanhs ekane mia apokalych gyrw apo ta prometoxa poy exei parei h ELPE kai fainetai, me osa leei o boyleyths, oti oxi mono den qa plhrwsei o k. Latshs, alla toy xrwsta kai to ellhniko kratos apo panw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ti einai ayta poy lete; Triakosia eikosi eji ekatommyria eyrw qa eisreysoyn sta kratika tameia.

LAMPRAKOS: Ayto pws qa to maqei o ellhnikos laos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta den einai mystika. Qa eisreysoyn xrhmata sto kratiko tameio.

LAMPRAKOS: Me poion tropo; Pws diasfalizetai h ...

PRWTOPAPAS: Oloi -kai eseis kai egw- exoyme dikaiwma na agorasoyme prometoxa. Kaqenas mas exei dikaiwma, otan diatiqentai omologa toy Dhmosioy me opoiandhpote morfh, na agorasei. Den katalabainw ti ennoeite. Epeidh kapoios edwse ta xrhmata toy sto ellhniko Dhmosio, opws mporoysate na dwsete kai eseis, opws kai o idios o k. Lafazanhs mporoyse na ta dwsei kai na agorasei prometoxa, omologa h o,ti allo, shmainei oti to ellhniko Dhmosio den qa ejoflhsei thn ypoxrewsh poy anelabe; Xrhmata doqhkan. Apo thn agoropwlhsia ayth problepetai h eisroh 326 ekatommyriwn eyrw sto Dhmosio Tameio. Ayto mila apo mono toy.

LAMPRAKOS: Me sygxwreite poy epimenw, egw ws aplos poliths, pws qa to maqw;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pws eseis syndeete tis ypoxrewseis toy Dhmosioy pros tritoys me mia sygkekrimenh pwlhsh metoxwn; Piqano na eiste eseis o tritos poy xrwsta to Dhmosio, dioti exete parei omologies toy. Den qa ekplhrwsei tis omologies, den qa sas ejoflhsei ayto poy phrate; Qa syndeqei me mia allh synallagh sas me to Dhmosio; Einai logikh ayth; Enas idiwths exei dikaiwma na agorasei omologies toy Dhmosioy h prometoxa h otidhpote allo diaqetei pros pwlhsh to Dhmosio. Erxetai o idiwths kai agorazei. To Dhmosio den qa ejoflhsei tis ypoxrewseis toy; Syndeetai ayth h ejoflhsh yparktwn shmerinwn ypoxrewsewn toy Dhmosioy me opoiadhpote nea symfwnia kanei me ton idiwth; Oxi, bebaiws.

LAMPRAKOS: Mporei kai na syndeetai, omws.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, ti lete! Agorasate kati apo to Dhmosio, me thn yposxesh oti to Dhmosio qa sas ta dwsei me toko. Peri aytoy den prokeitai; To Dhmosio ypoxreoytai na sas ta dwsei, dioti, an den symbei ayto, kanei apistia se baros sas. Syndeetai ayto me mia allh sxesh mazi sas, poy mporei na exei gia opoiondhpote logo; Mhn pame se sofisties.

SOYGLERHS: Oi anakoinwseis aytes tis hmeres, to dihmero, kai oi dikes sas kai toy k. Roysopoyloy, alla kai toy k. Paylopoyloy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Milhsa politika edw kai milhsa gia th N.D. Den milhsa gia kanena proswpo. Omoiws, o k. Roysopoylos, paroti htan mia sklhrh politikh dhlwsh milhse politika epi sygkekrimenwn qematwn. Yparxei politikh antiparaqesh metajy twn kommatwn. Den nomizw oti einai h prwth fora. Apo kei kai pera, o k. Paylopoylos ejetraph se proswpikes anafores kai epiqeseis. Ayto xarakthrizei ton k. Paylopoylo. Den exw na kanw sxolio. O k. Roysopoylos ekane politikh dhlwsh. Bebaiws, fantazomai oti h erwthsh sas apeyqynetai kai pros ton k. Paylopoylo.

SOYGLERHS: Ennoeitai.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh leei oti den qa kanei pisw sto qema ths xwroqethshs twn newn xwmaterwn. H N.D. apo thn pleyra ths zhta thn aposyrsh ths tropologias. Oi kinhtopoihseis synexizontai. Yparxei periptwsh, opws zhtoyn kai ta kommata, na kanete enan peraiterw kyklo dialogoy, na ekponhsete mia nea meleth h qa epimeinete sthn chfish ths tropologias ``ayqwrei kai paraxrhma'';

PRWTOPAPAS: Edw den prepei na efarmosoyme th laikh paroimia poy leei ``opoios den qelei na zymwsei, xilia xronia koskinizei''. Prepei na to paroyme apofash. Mexri ton Aygoysto, prepei na xwroqethqoyn oi neoi XYTA. Ayto afora thn ygeia, to mellon, thn asfaleia 4 -isws kai parapanw- ekatommyriwn politwn poy zoyn sto Lekanopedio ths Attikhs. Exoyme eyqynh apenanti se aytoys toys anqrwpoys. H kybernhsh, analambanontas to opoio kostos -kai ayto nomizw oti einai idiaitera qetiko gia thn ypoyrgo PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy- proxwra me apofasistikothta, se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Qa ginoyn oi neoi XYTA. Dialogo zhthse na kanei. Opws gnwrizete, sthn idia th nomoqetikh parembash prosdiorizontai poly perissoteroi xwroi, prokeimenoy na ginoyn peraiterw meletes kai na katalhjoyme se ekeinoys poy qa leitoyrghsoyn ws XYTA. Kaqe allh kinhsh den deixnei para thn ypokrisia orismenwn. Kai milw gia politikes dynameis, bebaiws. Telika ti qa ginei; Qa yparjoyn XYTA h oxi; Qa perifroyrhsoyme thn ygeia, to mellon, thn asfaleia, apo apoch ygieinhs, twn ekatommyriwn katoikwn toy Lekanopedioy; @H qa koitajoyme mono na ta exoyme kala me kapoioys, oi opoioi se telikh analysh, oson afora thn ygeia toys, isws den qigontai. Kapoies politikes apofaseis prepei na lambanontai kai emeis oi politikoi prepei na analambanoyme aytes tis eyqynes. Pisteyw oti prepei na sygxairoyme -kai xairomai idiaitera giati to epraje h Dhmarxos Aqhnaiwn Ntora Mpakogiannh- aytoys poy analambanoyn aytes tis eyqynes. Prepei na sygxaroyme thn ka Papandreoy.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kai thn ka Mpakogiannh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai thn ka Mpakogiannh kai thn ka Papandreoy. Thn ka Papandreoy gia thn apofash ths kai thn ka Mpakogiannh gia to politiko qarros ths.

SOYGLERHS: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia to laqos twn ejetasewn sta maqhmatika.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ap` oso gnwrizw, o k. Eyqymioy exei sygkalesei thn Epitroph Ejetasewn kai epomenws, apo ekei qa exoyme tis eidhseis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qelw na sxoliasete dyo zhthmata poy proekycan ta dyo teleytaia 24wra: Prwton, thn epishmh dhlwsh toy k. Gkioyl oti den yparxoyn parabaseis kai parabiaseis toy enaerioy xwroy, giati h Ellada prepei na perioristei sta eji milia. Deyteron, exoyme nea tetelesmena sthn Kypro, sta Strobilia kai yparxei mia anhsyxia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to deytero qema, ej oswn gnwrizete kai gnwrizw, o k. Iakwboy parenebh amesws. Kinhqhke me ton tropo poy eprepe na kinhqei kai bebaiws sthrizoyme aytes tis kinhseis ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Kai qa to deite. Oson afora to prwto qema, tonizw oti den qa mas pei oyte o k. Gkioyl oyte kanenas allos, gia tis apofaseis poy qa paroyme. H Ellada, kaqe fora, lambanei tis apofaseis ths me bash kai to eqniko symferon kai thn ypobohqhsh twn genikoterwn prwtoboyliwn poy analambanei se dieqnes epipedo. Se kaqe periptwsh, einai h gnwsth taktikh ths Toyrkias na prokalei deytereyonta zhthmata, prokeimenoy na fygoyn ta fwta ths dhmosiothtas kai h piesh, thn opoia yfistatai, apo to prwteyon, poy einai h epilysh toy Kypriakoy.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Xqes sto Star, yphrxe mia apokalych. O dieyqynwn symboylos twn ELPE periegrafe sthn k. Paparhga ton tropo diaswshs ths PETROLA. Me liga logia elege dhladh oti problepei to sxedio, th sygxwneysh xwris thn katabolh xrhmatwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw ti eipe o k. Karaxalios. Ayton fantazomai oti ennoeite.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Nai, ton k. Karaxalio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Emeis exoyme paroysiasei to synoliko sxedio kai to gnwrizete poly kala. Pisteyw oti to synoliko sxedio einai qetiko kai gia ta Ellhnika Petrelaia kai gia thn PETROLA. An den htan qetiko kai gia toys dyo, den qa probainame se ayth th symfwnia.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Me sygxwreite poy epimenw, alla exoyme thn apokalych toy k. Lafazanh, opoy emfanizetai h etaireia DEKA na xrwstaei 370 ekatommyria eyrw ston k. Latsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean xrwstaei, qa plhrwsei. O,ti ofeilei to Dhmosio den qa to plhrwsei; Anexeste eseis o,ti xrwstaei to Dhmosio na mhn to plhrwnei; To Dhmosio, opws prepei na eisprattei apo ekeinoys poy toy xrwstane -kai dexomaste kritikh ean orismenoi foreis toy Dhmosioy kaqysteroyn, kai kalws dexomaste kritikh- etsi prepei kai na ekplhrwnei tis ypoxrewseis toy. Ean xrwstaei, loipon -giati den to gnwrizw- na plhrwsei. Gia poio logo xrwstaei den to gnwrizw. Fantazomai oti ennoei agora omologwn h kati tetoio.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Rwtw eyqews, qa parei xrhmata to kratos apo ton k. Latsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pera apo thn analytikh prospaqeia poy exw katabalei gia na sas bohqhsw, pistecte me pws den mporw na katabalw allh.

GARGALAKOS: Einai diaforetikes synallages.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta exw ejhghsei epaneilhmmena. Apo th synallagh poy ginetai, to Dhmosio qa eisprajei 326 ekatommyria eyrw.

MIXAHL: To erwthmatiko poy endexomenws egeiretai einai to ejhs: Apo th stigmh poy eseis prepei na plhrwsete, giati ta ofeilete kai opws swsta lete, 370 ekatommyria h etaireia DEKA, dhladh to kratos, ston k. Latsh@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw to akribes poson.

MIXAHL: Estw oti einai ena eyrw, den exei shmasia. Thn idia stigmh eiste ypoxrewmenos na eisprajete apo ton k. Latsh to poson poy lete oti symfwnhsate gia ta ELPE. To qema einai, omws, ean yparxei periptwsh symchfismoy, me apotelesma soy xrwstaw, moy xrwstas, kleisame th symfwnia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epidiwkete na taytisete dyo anejarthtes metajy toys ypoqeseis; Ti yponoeite;

MIXAHL: H mia diadikasia einai ayth. Kai sas rwtaw@

PRWTOPAPAS: Prwton, h oikonomia den mporei tis apisties. Deyteron, sthn oikonomia mhn phgainoyme me th logikh toy "tefterioy" toy palioy mpakalh. Yparxoyn pragmata poy einai aytapodeikta kai ta gnwrizete kala. Den qa taytizete anejarthtes metajy toys ypoqeseis. Ti einai ayta poy ginontai; Den lypoymai gia thn epimonh na rwtate, lypoymai gia ton politiko poy xrhsimopoiei tetoioy eidoys epixeirhmata. Einai dynato na xrhsimopoioyme sofisteies; Dhladh, an den ginotan h symfwnia, den qa plhrwne to Dhmosio; Safws qa plhrwne. Einai dynaton to Ellhniko Dhmosio na mhn ekplhrwnei tis ypoxrewseis toy stoys Ellhnes kai stis ellhnikes epixeirhseis;

Sas eyxaristw.

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