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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Maioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Kat@ arxas, na sas enhmerwsw oti thn erxomenh Trith qa teleiwsei h syzhthsh toy sxedioy nomoy toy Ypoyrgeioy Typoy gia ta Grafeia Typoy Ejwterikoy kai alles diatajeis gia to radiothleoptiko topio. Exoyn ginei, hdh, oi treis prwtes synedriaseis kai exoyn chfistei ta prwta 20 arqra.

Synexizetai, mexri ayth th stigmh, h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs K. Skandalidh. Meta th synanthsh, qa ginoyn dhlwseis apo ton ypoyrgo.

Qa hqela na kanw mia anafora sth xqesinh Genikh Syneleysh toy SEB. Yparxei, bebaia, h omilia toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh, sthn opoia sas parapempw. Qelw, omws, na shmeiwsw dyo pragmata:

To prwto, einai h topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto grapto mhnyma poy eixe steilei pros to SEB, sto opoio tonizei oti emeis -h kybernhsh mas- exoyme anoikto metwpo kata ths diafqoras. Exoyme qesei, opws xarakthristika eipe, thn katapolemhsh ths forodiafyghs kai tis paranomes symperifores sto epikentro ths politikhs mas kai qa synexisoyme xwris distagmo.

To deytero afora thn topoqethsh toy Proedroy toy SEB k. Kyriakopoyloy, gia thn opoia qelw na tonisw to ejhs: Anamfibola, kaqe koinwnikos foreas sthn Ellada kai idiaitera enas megalos foreas sto xwro ths oikonomias, opws einai o SEB, mporei na kanei tis dikes toy anafores kai th dikh toy kritikh. Gennioyntai, omws, orismena erwthmata, mesa apo thn topoqethsh toy k. Kyriakopoyloy kai qelw na epishmanw pente shmeia: Exoyme tis kalyteres synqhkes, poy isws yphrxan pote, toylaxiston edw kai para polla xronia, sthn ellhnikh oikonomia. Exoyme politikh kai oikonomikh staqerothta. Exoyme mia ygih oikonomia mesa sthn eyrwpaikh oikonomia, mesa sthn eniaia eyrwpaikh oikogeneia. Exoyme th diaqesh twn porwn toy G@ K.P.S.. Exoyme lysei to asfalistiko. Yparxei ergasiakh omalothta sthn Ellada. Yparxoyn, loipon, oles oi dynatothtes gia na anaptyxqei to ependytiko klima kai na enisxysoyme me synergasia thn antagwnistikothta ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Epomenws,

-Prwton, ofeilei kai o SEB na analabei to meridio ths eyqynhs poy toy analogei kai na kataqesei kai aytos th syneisfora toy s@ ayth thn prospaqeia poy xreiazetai h xwra.

-Deyteron, o SEB ofeilei, epishs, na katanohsei oti exoyn parelqei anepistrepti oi epoxes poy oi biomhxanoi h oi ergodotes zhtoysan ton kratiko parembatismo h prostateytismo. Apo ekei jekinoyn kai ta problhmata, ta opoia eixan prokycei kai sto parelqon. Den xreiazetai na ta ypenqymisw. Prepei na orioqethsoyme, pia, ena neo plaisio leitoyrgias mesa se mia anoikth oikonomia, opoy kaqenas exei to diko toy rolo kai diaplokes den mporei na yparxoyn. Qa prepei, loipon, oi ennoies "prostateytismos" kai "parembatismos", poy gennoyn ayta ta problhmata, na afeqoyn sto parelqon. Pisteyw oti o SEB mporei na to katanohsei apolyta ayto.

-Triton, mesa se mia oikonomia poy prosferetai gia ependyseis, prepei kai oi ergodotes na analaboyn kai ta dika toys riska. Den einai dynato na yparxei h antilhch -kai yparxei, apo o,ti fainetai, se arketes ellhnikes biomhxanies- oti to synolo twn ependysewn prepei na kalyfqei apo tis epidothseis, eite toy G@ K.P.S., eite apo alles poy problepontai apo toys anaptyjiakoys nomoys. Prepei na yparxei kai h ennoia toy epixeirhmatikoy riskoy kai na mhn kalyptontai oi epixeirhseis apo tis epidothseis. Prepei, epiteloys, oi ergodotes na tolmhsoyn. Kai h ennoia ths prospaqeias, ths syneisforas poy apaiteitai sth xwra mas, shmainei kai thn analhch aytoy toy epixeirhmatikoy riskoy.

-Tetarton, den einai dynaton, kaqe fora poy parathreitai problhma se mia epixeirhsh, na anaptyssontai antilhceis toy typoy "rije toys misqoys", "misqoi Kinas", "aporyqmish ergasiakwn sxesewn". Ola ayta h kybernhsh den prokeitai na ta dexqei kai as to katalaboyn kala oi ths ergodotikhs pleyras. Epishs, symperifores kai logikes, san aytes poy eidame prosfata apo Ellhnes epixeirhmaties, oti "xwris na analambanw mia koinwnikh eyqynh apenanti sth xwra kai thn prospaqeia poy ginetai, shkwnomai kai feygw, epeidh mporei na kerdisw perissotera kapoy alloy", den mporei na meinoyn asxoliastes. Einai symperifores poy prepei na katadikastoyn. Kai,

-Pempton, o plhqwrismos, ean den einai ekei poy qeloyme -kai den einai- ofeiletai se megalo baqmo kai sta diarqrwtika problhmata poy exoyn na kanoyn me ta kerdh kai tis ayjhseis twn kerdwn. Den ofeiletai stoys misqoys twn ergazomenwn. Epomenws, prepei kai h ergodotikh pleyra, oxi apla na diapistwnei, alla na syneisferei to diko ths meridio eyqynhs, prokeimenoy na antimetwpizontai ayta ta problhmata. Tetoies symperifores, poy ypodeixqhkan xqes apo ton Proedro ths Syneleyshs Stelio Argyro, o opoios eyqews eneplakh se kommatikoys antagwnismoys, den prosferoyn se kanenan. Qelw na pisteyw oti yparxoyn oles ekeines oi dynameis -kai mesa stis ellhnikes epixeirhseis- poy antilambanontai oti, ayth th stigmh, h xwra proxwra mprosta, oti yparxoyn eykairies gia ependyseis, alla kai oti prepei na kataqesoyn kai th dikh toys eyqynh, sto meridio bebaia poy toys analogei, sth genikoterh prospaqeia gia antagwnismo, gia tonwsh ths apasxolhshs kai sebasmo sto koinwniko protypo poy exoyme sthn Ellada. Eimaste etoimoi gia ena triptyxo poy exei na kanei me thn pragmatikh dhmioyrgia, thn prospaqeia kai thn ergasia. Kai ekei, qeloyme th symfwnia kai th symporeysh me oles tis pleyres. Alla, ayto proypoqetei oti qa analaboyn oloi tis eyqynes toys.

Gia thn anakoinwsh toy k. Tsiplakoy exw politika topoqethqei apo xqes kai exei hdh paraxwrhsei synenteyjh Typoy o k. Paxtas gia ta kondylia toy B@ K.P.S..

Qa hqela na sas diabasw ena shmeio ths topoqethshs toy k. Tsiplakoy. Einai epishmh topoqethsh ths Neas Dhmokratias -den einai kapoios poy kapoy eipe kati- kai kata th gnwmh moy dhmioyrgei kapoia erwthmata, sxetika se ayta poy qa pw. Anaferetai se mena kai leei oti anelaba na kalycw ton k. Paxta kai oti dhlwnw me kynismo pws h apwleia twn 160 dis draxmwn einai deigma ygeias, krinontas bebaia apo tis dikes moy anagkes gia diaita. Sto shmeio ayto. qelw na jekaqarisw kati, se sxesh me aytes tis anohsies. Perimenw apo th N.D. na apodokimasei eyqews tis anohsies poy ekstomise shmera, oxi enas tyxaios, alla o ypeyqynos gia thn parakoloyqhsh ths poreias toy Koinotikoy Plaisioy Sthrijhs.

Qelw na pisteyw oti h N.D. qa to kanei. Giati an den to kanei, shmainei oti ayta ta peri politikoy politismoy poy exei pei ta exei hdh egkataleicei h ta exei petajei sto kalaqi twn axrhstwn. Shmainei oti yioqetei ton pio aparadekto, me proswpikes epiqeseis, barbaro kai ybristiko tropo sthn politikh antiparaqesh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

LAMPRAKOS: Ayth h parembash toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn pros thn E.E. gia tis toyrkikes parabiaseis, shmainei kai strofh ths mexri twra akoloyqoymenhs politikhs sta ellhnotoyrkika;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai mia para poly kalh kai qetikh prwtoboylia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn Giwrgoy Papandreoy pros ton k. Ferxoigken. Opws gnwrizete, h Toyrkia exei ypobalei aithsh kai malista exei labei kapoies hmeromhnies gia tis diapragmateyseis. Symfwna me tis apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei apo thn E.E., yparxei seira krithriwn poy prepei na plhroi. Ena apo ayta afora th symperifora ths se mia seira zhthmatwn sxetikwn me ta problhmata sto Aigaio. Otan h idia dhmioyrgei problhmata, otan h idia kanei kinhseis poy emfanizontai oti apeiloyn thn eirhnh, otan h idia xrhsimopoiei tropoys kai meqodoys poy apadoyn me ena prohgmeno eyrwpaiko kratos, tote prepei antikeimenika na teqei to erwthma, gia to pws antilambanetai thn eisodo ths sthn E.E. Hmastan kai ejakoloyqoyme na eimaste yper ths eisodoy ths Toyrkias sthn E.E.. Alla, to "yper" shmainei entajh me toys oroys poy isxyoyn kai ta dedomena poy orizontai gia oles tis eyrwpaikes xwres. An h Toyrkia qelei na einai mia eyrwpaikh xwra, prepei na exei kai thn analogh symperifora. Me ayth thn ennoia, h topoqethsh toy zhthmatos apo ton k. Papandreoy einai ejoxws qetikh kai apotelesmatikh.

LAMPRAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, rwthsa an einai strofh stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, giati prin apo ligo kairo eidame ton Ellhna ypoyrgo me ton Toyrko omologo toy mazi, sto Kastelorizo kai sto Kars.

PRWTOPAPAS: O Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn qa ejakoloyqei na syzhta. To gegonos oti syzhta ta problhmata, den shmainei oti den qa kanei kai tis prepoyses kinhseis. Kai o Toyrkos ypoyrgos htan me ton k. Papandreoy gia na to paroyme kai apo thn antistrofh pleyra kai ta aeroplana toys ekanan parabiaseis.

KARGOYDH: Apo thn arxikh topoqethsh sas, se sxesh me ton SEB, na bgaloyme to symperasma oti katalogizete sto Syndesmo emmesh, alla safh anameijh sta politika pragmata ths xwras;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto to eipa gia ton k. Argyro poy prohdreye ths Syneleyshs.

KARGOYDH: Genikeyw to erwthma moy kai lew se epipedo qesewn, toylaxiston...

PRWTOPAPAS: Se epipedo qesewn ekane mia seira apo anafores, tis opoies, kata th gnwmh moy, olos o epixeirhmatikos kosmos prepei na prosejei idiaitera.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: H xqesinh sas topoqethsh, ejhghsh-dieykrinish se o,ti afora tis kataggelies toy arxhgoy ths N.D. gia thn aporrofhtikothta twn kondyliwn toy B` K.P.S. synista paradoxh ek meroys sas, ths adynamias ths kybernhshs na aporrofhsei kapoia kondylia; Kai ayto to rwtw giati mexri prosfata kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai oi armodioi ypoyrgoi kai yfypoyrgoi, dhlwnan, epi lejei, oti h Ellada den exei xasei oyte ena eyrw apo to B` K.P.S.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw pei oti se olh thn Eyrwph, ayth thn periodo, ginetai to kleisimo toy B` K.P.S. kai fysika ginontai, eite ginontai apo tis eqnikes, eite apo tis eyrwpaikes arxes, oi sxetikoy elegxoi. Se olh thn Eyrwph exei diapistwqei mia seira problhmatwn poy dhmioyrgoyn kapoies perikopes -prosejte- sto kleisimo, ston apologismo toy B` K.P.S.. Kai malista, opws qa parathrhsate apo ta sxetika stoixeia, sthn Ellada einai idiaitera xamhles, xamhloteres apo polles alles eyrwpaikes xwres. Ta eidika qemata gia to B` K.P.S. ta ejhgei stoys oikonomikoys syntaktes o yfypoyrgos Oikonomikwn Xrhstos Paxtas. Xqes, se synennohsh me ton k. Xristodoylakh, ekana mia politikh anafora, epi toy qematos, h opoia kai isxyei. Den edwsa noymera.

MIXAHL: Apeyqynate pente parathrhseis pros to SEB, me aformh tis dhlwseis toy k. Kyriakopoyloy, poy ekane prosfata kai ta osa eipe xqes sth Syneleysh o k. Argyros. Gia ton k. Argyro dikaiwma sas na ta peite, alla moy kanei entypwsh giati anafereste sta osa anaferei o k. Kyriakopoylos, dioti kai persi, pali ta idia elege o SEB. Ti einai ayto poy allaje fetos kai sas ypoxrewnei na apeyqynete aytes tis parathrhseis-paraineseis oti prepei na ekmetalleytoyn to epixeirhmatiko klima. Kai persi to elegan. Einai pagia qesh toy SEB...

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn kai propersines anafores, yparxoyn kai anafores apo persi, mporeite na anatrejete se aytes. Fetos, eipe sygkekrimena pragmata o k. Kyriakopoylos, ta eixan pei kai prin apo merikes hmeres. Qymizw kai thn ypoqesh ths ``SISER PALKO'', kai thn ypoqesh twn misqwn kai me ayth thn ennoia kanw mia synolikh anafora, ayth th stigmh. Kaqe fora sxoliazoyme, opws dexomaste kai kritikh. Ofeiloyme ki emeis na kanoyme tis parathrhseis mas. Einai aytonohto.

KARGOYDH: Dhmosieyetai mia ereyna, symfwna me thn opoia oi erwthqentes polites ektimoyn oti yparxoyn sxeseis eklektikhs syggeneias isxyroterhs metajy SEB kai N.D. apo o,ti me to PASOK. Hqela na sas rwthsw, ean ayto to diapistwnete kai stis xqesines topoqethseis toy k. Kyriakopoyloy kai toy k. Karamanlh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qelw na sxoliasw ayto to qema. Ekana sygkekrimenes parathrhseis, gia sygkekrimena proswpa kai gia sygkekrimenes apostrofes twn omiliwn twn ekproswpwn toy Syndesmoy. Einai safes oti o Syndesmos exei to diko toy qesmiko rolo, ton opoio qeloyme na diathrhsei. Apo kei kai pera, qa kanoyme tis parathrhseis mas. Tonisa, omws, oti symperifores, opws ayth toy k. Argyroy, den symballoyn sto qesmiko rolo toy SEB.

ELENOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na sxoliasete th qesh toy gnwstoy Toyrkoy arqrografoy k. Eksi sto periodiko ``KRAMA'', poy dhmosieyqhke shmera kai poy einai kati metajy apeilhs kai endexomenoy, sth logikh toy oti blepei sto mellon mia alloiwsh ths plhqysmiakhs synqeshs sta eleyqera tmhmata ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, me th xrhsh, bebaiws, kai twn eyrwpaikwn krithriwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Diabasa to sxetiko arqro toy Toyrkoy arqrografoy. Prepei na sas pw oti antallaja apoceis epi toy qematos me ton omologo moy k. Xrysostomidh. Den qelw na kanw mia biastikh topoqethsh. Ayto poy emeis qeloyme einai na lyqei to Kypriako, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE, dioti o arqrografos syzhta sth bash ths paroysas katastashs. Se ola ayta ta zhthmata problhmatizetai idiaitera h Kypriakh Dhmokratia kai emeis mazi toys. Mexri stigmhs den exei teqei zhthma. Ayto den leei isws kati tromero, dioti mporeite na moy peite oti endexomenws na teqei ayrio. Alla, einai shmantiko oti, mexri th stigmh poy milame, den exei teqei kapoio zhthma. Yparxei megalos problhmatismos sthn Kypriakh Dhmokratia, ston opoio symmetexoyme ki emeis. Ekeino poy qelw na tonisw einai oti, se kaqe periptwsh, yparxoyn anqrwpoi poy exoyn thn kypriakh iqageneia. Qa ejetastoyn aytes oi ypoqeseis, kata periptwsh, me antikeimenika krithria kai mesa apo tis prwtoboylies poy h Kypriakh Dhmokratia qa parei. Anamfibola, omws, apotelei kai ayto stoixeio problhmatismoy.

GIANNISHS: Me thn eykairia, sta elhnnotoyrkika exei anaptyxqei to teleytaio 24wro mia filologia peri katarrichs kapoioy toyrkikoy aeroskafoys to 1996 se mia emplokh. Exete enhmerwqei epishma apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den moy exei epibebaiwqei mexri ayth th stigmh.

MIXAHL: Diabazoyme dhmosieymata kai exoyme plhrofories apo to reportaz oti exei apokatastaqei enas tropos epafhs -qewreiste oti einai dikh moy h anafora kai mhn th sxoliasete- metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy k. Pagkaloy, o opoios malista ekproswpei to PASOK sto Synedrio toy Gallikoy Sosialistikoy Kommatos, katopin entolhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opws grafetai ston Typo shmera. Thn idia wra, omws, o k. Pagkalos epikrinei jana thn kybernhsh kai ton Prwqypoyrgo oti gia thn allh Ellada, poy leei oti yparxei, einai ayth h Ellada poy sthrize kai chfize to PASOK tosa xronia kai twra thn exete jexasei kapws. Qelete na to sxoliasete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dynaton na sxoliazw kaqe hmera anafores stelexwn mas; Den qa stamathsoyme pote.

MIXAHL: Sto plaisio ths proseggishs mporeite na th sxoliasete.

PRWTOPAPAS: To dialogo metajy twn stelexwn protimw na ton kanw me ta stelexh mas kai oxi sthn aiqoysa ths enhmerwshs. Nomizw ejalloy oti qa einai poly pio karpoforo.

KARGOYDH: Den einai bebaio...

PRWTOPAPAS: Etsi lete; Oxi! Einai bebaio.

MIXAHL: Eseis -oxi ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos- pws ektimate th qesh toy k. Pagkaloy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Menw sthn apanthsh poy edwsa prin. Edw, exw sygkekrimenh idiothta. Apo kei kai pera, poly kala kanei o k. Pagkalos kai ekproswpei to PASOK sto Synedrio toy Gallikoy Sosialistikoy Kommatos. Ayto einai qetiko.

Sas eyxaristw.

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