Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-04-18

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Aprilioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Prin jekinhsoyme to dialogo mas, qa hqela na tonisw oti einai safes pws h xwra mas eixe mia idiaitera eytyxh sygkyria ayto to dihmero ths Eyrwpaikhs Diaskechs sthn Aqhna. Htan h poly megalh stigmh ths ypografhs ths Prajhs Prosxwrhshs twn deka newn xwrwn me prwth thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Htan mia stigmh poy mas sygkinhse oloys, mia stigmh poy problhqhke pagkosmia, mia stigmh gia thn opoia milhse me ta kolakeytikotera logia olh h Eyrwph.

Omws, sth Synodo ayth, eixame kai dyo shmantikes politikes ejelijeis:

H prwth htan, to anoigma twn syzhthsewn gia to neo Syntagma ths Eyrwphs, gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs kai malista yphrjan oi prwtes symfwnies, opws sto qema ths dhmioyrgias toy qesmoy toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ths E.E.. Bebaiws, h syzhthsh qa proxwrhsei. Yparxoyn akomh shmeia diafwniwn, alla h syzhthsh anoije. Proxwroyme, loipon, kai o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei thn eykairia -stis epafes poy qa kanei me toys hgetes olwn twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E., arxhs genomenhs shmera apo thn Kypro, opoy jekina ta tajidia toy, ta opoia qa diarkesoyn peripoy ena dimhno- na anaptyjei ta qemata ayta kai na brei tis lyseis poy qa mas dwsoyn th dynatothta na katalhjoyme sta prwta symperasmata sto Eyrwpaiko Symboylio ths Qessalonikhs.

H deyterh megalh politikh stigmh htan h dhlwsh ths Proedrias, h opoia bebaiws exei th symfwnh gnwmh kai twn ``15'', alla kai olwn twn melwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Diaskechs, gia to qema ths krishs sto Irak. Epanabebaiwnetai h anagkh gia ena kentriko rolo toy OHE, gia lysh sto Mesanatoliko kai gia mia anoikodomhsh toy Irak me sebasmo twn dikaiwmatwn kai ths ekfrashs toy irakinoy laoy.

H koinh dhlwsh twn ``15'' deixnei, epishs, oti to rhgma poy yphrxe anamesa stis xwres-melh ths E.E. epixeireitai na kalyfqei, na mikrynei. O dialogos exei proxwrhsei kai ayto einai ena gegonos poy ofeiloyme na to shmeiwsoyme, ws idiaitera qetiko.

@To trito shmeio, peran ths megalhs stigmhs ths dieyrynshs, htan to gegonos oti to Kypriako einai sthn prwth grammh toy endiaferontos. Ayto tonisthke kai apo to Geniko Grammatea toy OHE. Yphrjan oi sxetikes dhlwseis apo oloys. H epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy einai ena qema poy einai sthn epikairothta, einai zwntano, yparxei piesh pros thn Toyrkia kai ayto qa tonistei apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, kata th shmerinh episkech toy sthn Kypro.

Epishs, qelw na metaferw ta sygxarhthria toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros oloys osoi doylecan gi` ayth th megalh stigmh. Pros ta stelexh kai tis yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, pros ta stelexh kai tis yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Politismoy, poy eixan thn eyqynh gia th Stoa toy Attaloy, pros ta dioikhtika stelexh kai tis yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Typoy kai MME, gia thn organwsh toy Kentroy Typoy kai pros thn ERT gia thn ejairetikh kalych olwn twn ekdhlwsewn poy eginan ayto to dihmero. Oloi oi Ellhnes polites, anejarthtws politikwn kai kommatikwn protimhsewn, me eqnikh syneidhsh, aisqanqhkan ayto to dihmero idiaitera perhfanoi gia to rolo poy diadramatizei, pleon, h xwra mas stis eyrwpaikes kai tis dieqneis ejelijeis.

Prepei na ejarw kai th stash twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs, bebaiws kai ths N.D. idiaitera, se ayth th shmantikh stigmh gia th xwra mas kai olon ton Ellhnismo.

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O Proedros ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas k. Ntoyizempergk, me epistolh toy, to Febroyario toy 2002, ston Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, gnwstopoioyse thn proqesh toy na apoxwrhsei apo th qesh toy thn 9h Ioylioy 2003, prin apo th lhjh ths qhteias toy. Sthn idia epistolh o k. Ntoyizempergk anefere oti qa htan diateqeimenos na parateinei thn paramonh toy, ean toy to zhtoysan, gia na genei omala h metabash sth nea Proedria.

Enocei twn ejelijewn poy mesolabhsan apo tote kai meta apo diaboyleyseis me alles xwres-melh ths Eyrwzwnhs, o proedreywn toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths, esteile epistolh ston k. Ntoyizempergk kai toy zhtei na parameinei sth qesh toy mexris otoy analabei ta kaqhkonta toy o neos Proedros, o opoios qa eklegei.

O k. Ntoyizempergk apodexqhke thn protash kai eyxaristhse ton Prwqypoyrgo gia thn empistosynh toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy pros to proswpo toy.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

TSAKIRHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eixame shmera neo dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas ``AYRIANH'', poy emplekei kai ton ypoyrgo para tw Prwqypoyrgw k. Manika. Ton kathgorei oti meteixe se ``paixnidia'' sto Xrhmatisthrio. Hqela na rwthsw, ean einai enhmeros o Prwqypoyrgos gi` ayto to dhmosieyma, ean exei epikoinwnhsei mazi toy kai ean exoyme kapoia ejelijh se ayto to qema.

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws kai einai enhmeros o Prwqypoyrgos gia ta dhmosieymata. Alla, qelw na tonisw oti h kybernhsh mas chfise ena nomo, to nomo 2843 toy 2000, opoy sto arqro 33, problepontai sygkekrimenoi periorismoi kai apagoreyseis gia politika proswpa kai idiws gia kybernhtika stelexh (ypoyrgoi, yfypoyrgoi, genikoi grammateis ypoyrgeiwn), se sxesh me tis xrhmatisthriakes synallages. O nomos aytos threitai me idiaiterh prosoxh kai sxolastika kai aytes oi ejelijeis parakoloyqoyntai. Mexri thn chfish toy nomoy den yphrxe bebaia kamia sxetikh paranomh prajh.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Wstoso, pro trihmeroy, tetrahmeroy eixame thn paraithsh toy k. Malesioy, o opoios epikalesthke logoys eyqijias. Krinei h kybernhsh oti qa eprepe kai o k. Manikas na akoloyqhsei to paradeigma toy synadelfoy toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den blepw kamia paranomh prajh.

PAPAHLIOPOYLOS: Olh ayth h eikona mporei na odhghsei se kapoion anasxhmatismo, tis epomenes meres;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi proteraiothtes mas einai teleiws diaforetikes. O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, jekina shmera ta tajidia toy, ws Proedreywn ths E.E., me prwto staqmo thn Kypro. Einai mia istorikh stigmh. Apo o,ti plhroforoymaste, qa yparjei pallaikh ypodoxh kai milame gia idiaitera shmantikh kinhtopoihsh twn Kypriwn politwn, toy kypriakoy laoy.

Ayrio, qa exei th dynatothta -peran apo thn kataqesh stefanoy sta Fylakismena Mnhmata, ston topo mnhmhs kai qysias toy kypriakoy laoy- na exei makra synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Taso Papadopoylo, me ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Boylhs Dhmhtrh Xristofia, me toys arxhgoys twn politikwn kommatwn, me ton Arxiepiskopo kai qa milhsei sthn olomeleia ths Kypriakhs Boylhs.

Exei proskalesei, opws gnwrizete, ws Proedreywn ths E.E. kai ta politika kommata ths toyrkokypriakhs koinothtas. Gia to an qa apodexqoyn h oxi ayth thn prosklhsh, mexri thn teleytaia stigmh, einai ena erwthma.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qelw na sas diabebaiwsw, epeidh anaferqhkate, oti o kypriakos laos anamenei ton Prwqypoyrgo me anoiktes agkales, dioti pragmati synetelese sthn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E. poy einai gegonos anamfisbhthto. H Toyrkia, ayth thn wra, einai pragmati "strimwgmenh" me tis ejelijeis poy exoyme kai thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E., o Ntenktas exei probei se dhlwseis poy einai aparadektes, den apodexetai -kai h toyrkikh pleyra- thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E.. Hqela na sxoliasete th dhlwsh toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn twn HPA k. Paoyel, o opoios gia prwth fora se dhlwsh toy se omhgyrh Ellhnwn ths N. Yorkhs eipe, metajy twn allwn, anaferomenos sto Kypriako, oti h Toyrkia an qelei na proxwrhsei thn entajiakh poreia ths qa prepei na plhroi ola ta krithria ths Kopegxaghs. Gia prwth fora pairnei apostaseis h Amerikh apo thn Toyrkia. Allote htan monokommath yper twn toyrkikwn qesewn.

PRWTOPAPAS: To exoyme epishmanei apo xqes kai xairomai poy o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn twn HPA, me to eidiko baros poy exei, kanei ayth th diapistwsh. Pragmatika xairomaste. Apo ekei kai pera, to tonisame kai xqes, oti h Toyrkia den exei na kerdisei apo th synexish ths grammhs ths adiallajias. Prepei na apallagei apo antilhceis san kai aytes poy ekfrazei o k. Ntenktas, o opoios ayth th stigmh, einai empodio kai gia thn idia thn Toyrkia, alla kai gia thn toyrkokypriakh koinothta. Einai empodio gia ta idia ta symferonta toys. Qa prepei h Toyrkia na anaqewrhsei th stash ths, na ektimhsei th nea pragmatikothta poy exei diamorfwqei kai na symbalei sth dikaih epilysh toy Kypriakoy, symfwna me tis apofaseis kai to plaisio toy OHE, anoigontas etsi, bebaiws, kai enisxyontas to dromo gia th dikh ths eyrwpaikh poreia.

Qeloyme na pisteyoyme oti h xqesinh stash toy k. Gkioyl mas dinei mia nota -kai oxi mhnyma- mias sxetikhs aisiodojias se ayth thn ypoqesh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epeidh metadoqhke apo thn thleorash o syntomos dialogos toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Gkioyl kai akoysame mono osa eipe o Prwqypoyrgos, mhpws mporeite na moy peite ti eipe o k. Gkioyl ston Prwqypoyrgo;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Gkioyl den eipe kati idiaitero.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: H aisiodojia apo poy proerxetai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo th genikoterh stash toy k. Gkioyl kai apo ta osa eipe ston ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy sth diarkeia toy deipnoy, mporei kaneis na symperanei oti yphrje toylaxiston enas baqys problhmatismos, poy dhmioyrgei mia nota aisiodojias, oti h Toyrkia mporei na symbalei. Alla, as mh biazomaste, mexri ayto na apodeixqei.

KARGOYDH: Dika sas stelexh apodidoyn ta dhmosieymata toy k. Koyrh ston epixeirhmatiko agwna poy dinei. Hqela na rwthsw, poy apodidei h kybernhsh thn ajiopoihsh twn epixeirhmatwn Koyrh apo ton k. Pagkalo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw na perimenete na emplakei h kybernhsh s@ ayto.

KARGOYDH: Alla, qa perimename na yparjei ena sxolio apo thn kybernhsh gia tis kathgories poy apodidei o k. Pagkalos se stelexh ths kybernhshs kai stenoys synergates toy Prwqypoyrgoy..

PRWTOPAPAS: Poies kathgories; Ennoeite ta peri Ektelestikoy Grafeioy;

KARGOYDH: Emmesws yioqetei kapoies kathgories hqikoy periexomenoy poy apodidontai se stelexh sas. Etsi exw katalabei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na jekaqarisw oti h kybernhsh toy PASOK, se oles tis prajeis kai tis energeies ths, diakatexetai apo to kaqestws ths diafaneias, ths entimothtas kai bebaiws ton idiaitero sebasmo twn symferontwn toy ellhnikoy laoy stis opoiasdhpote morfhs promhqeies, opws egine kai sto qema ths asfaleias twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela ena sxolio sas gia thn idia thn politikh stash toy k. Pagkaloy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw na pw tipota parapanw apo o,ti eipa. Einai apolytws safes ayto poy eipa.

MIXAHL: Yparxei ena anamfisbhthto gegonos, to opoio kai eseis anagnwrizete, oti me mia seira dhmosieymatwn katonomazontai h epikrinontai h katakrinontai sygkekrimena kybernhtika stelexh. Eseis pisteyete oti ayta aposkopoyn se fqora ths kybernhshs h einai mono se ena epipedo proswpikwn h epixeirhmatikwn dienejewn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Afhste na bgaloyme emeis ta symperasmata. Ayth th stigmh exei ajia na poyme oti s@ ayta ta qemata den yphrxe paranomh prajh. Den yphrxe kati poy na antikeitai stoys nomoys kai tis isxyoyses diatajeis. Apo ekei kai pera, gia ta kinhtra kai otidhpote allo, kaqenas ejagei ta symperasmata toy kai emeis ta dika mas. Na eiste bebaioi oti den prokeitai na emplakoyme oyte se mia anazhthsh skopimothtwn, poy antikeimenika yparxoyn, oyte se opoiasdhpote morfhs epixeirhmatikoys antagwnismoys.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Qema hqikhs tajhs, kata th gnwmh mas, den tiqetai gia thn kybernhsh, otan emfanizontai mia seira apo stenoi synergates toy Prwqypoyrgoy na exoyn paijei sto Xrhmatisthrio, profanws exontas plhrofories poly perissoteres apo o,ti kaqe poliths;.

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo poy to ejagete ayto;

TRIANTAFYLLOY: H koinh logikh to leei ayto. Otan enas anqrwpos, o opoios askei ejoysia, einai ypoyrgos, einai safes oti exei megalyteres plhrofories apo o,ti exei o kaqenas Ellhnas poliths.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den prepei na parasyromaste se ayqaireta symperasmata. Se sxesh me ayto to zhthma den yparxei paranomh prajh. Den yparxei kati poy na antikeitai stoys tote isxyontes nomoys kai kanonismoys. Emeis ftiajame ena neo qesmiko plaisio, shmantika aysthrotero, poy isxyei gia oles tis kybernhseis. To chfise h Boylh. To parakoloyqoyme aysthra. Apagoreyetai, ayth th stigmh, se ypoyrgoys kai alla kybernhtika stelexh na paizoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio. Mhn odhgoymaste se ayqaireta symperasmata.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Giati ftiaxthke o nomos; Giati anagnwrizei h kybernhsh oti oi ypoyrgoi kai ta kybernhtika stelexh briskontai se pronomiakh sxesh enanti twn ypoloipwn politwn. Ayto, profanws, isxye kai to @ 99. Gi@ ayto rwtw, an qewreite oti yparxei qema hqikhs tajhs...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ftiajame kai throyme to nomo ayto gia na apallajoyme ton politiko kosmo apo aytoy toy eidoys tis ypocies h tis kathgories, oi opoies polles fores mporei na ayqairetes kai asthriktes. Ayto to kefalaio exei kleisei.

GARGALAKOS: Shmera, se mia megalh prwinh efhmerida, grafetai ena arqro, poy peripoy leei ston k. Shmith oti exei oloklhrwsei thn politikh toy diadromh kai kalo qa htan na paraithqei, na fygei gia na ananewqei h politikh zwh. Qa qelate na to sxoliasete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti diafwnoyme plhrws me tetoies antilhceis, otan olh h Eyrwph, pisteyw kai oloi oi Ellhnes polites, epikrotoyn oles tis energeies toy Prwqypoyrgoy, idiaitera ayth thn periodo. Einai idiaitera akatallhlh stigmh gia tetoies protaseis. Erxontai se eyqeia antiqesh me to koino aisqhma. Alla, bebaiws, dhmokratia exoyme sthn Ellada kai exei dikaiwma o analyths na kanei tis ektimhseis kai tis protaseis toy, oi opoies erxontai se plhrh antiqesh me tis dikes mas apoceis. Ayto, omws, einai to megaleio ths Dhmokratias.

TSAKIRHS: Olh ayth h dosolhcia me to Xrhmatisthrio toy k. Manika, opws toylaxiston emfanizetai sto dhmosieyma, ginotan to 1999.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizate;

TSAKIRHS: Einai dhlwmenh sto "Poqen esxes". To gnwriza. Omws, ekeinh thn epoxh, an qymamai kala, to PASOK diafhmize to Xrhmatisthrio mesw ths proeklogikhs toy kampanias. Hqela na rwthsw, den yparxei hqiko qema s@ ayto gia thn kybernhsh kai gia to PASOK;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prwton, afoy to gnwrizate, giati den to eipate; Kai deyteron, qa deite oti alloi politikoi exoyn paijei sto Xrhmatisthrio kai alloi oxi. Alloi exoyn kerdisei kai alloi exoyn xasei. Den yparxoyn kanones s@ ayto. Gia na stamathsei, loipon, ayth h istoria kai epeidh den mporoyme na to apagoreysoyme stoys boyleytes to kaname gia thn kybernhsh. Phrame thn eyqynh kai kocame, me to maxairi, kaqe dynatothta xrhmatisthriakoy paixnidioy. Ayto qa perimena na to xairetisete.

TSAKIRHS: O Prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnhse me ton k. Manika kai ton k. Neonakh, toy opoioy to onoma empleketai se allh efhmerida;

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati na epikoinwnhsei o Prwqypoyrgos; Poio einai to qema;

TSAKIRHS: Oi plhrofories lene oti milhsan sto thlefwno.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den plhroforhqhka kati tetoio. Isws kapoia stigmh na exei ginei. To qema, omws, einai oti den yparxei paranomh prajh. Den yparxei parabash nomoy h kanonismoy. Apo ekei kai pera, epeidh akribws o Prwqypoyrgos hqele na mhn egeirontai tetoia erwthmata, phre thn prwtoboylia kai eishghqhke h kybernhsh ena nomo sth Boylh, ton opoio chfise kai me ton opoio apagoreyei stoys ypoyrgoys, toys genikoys grammateis, ta kybernhtika stelexh, na paizoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio. Ayto einai ena qetiko metro gia ton politiko kosmo kai prepei na to xairetisoyme. O idios o Prwqypoyrgos exei dwsei entolh na parakoloyqeitai stena h efarmogh ayths ths diatajhs.

TSAKIRHS: Symfwneite me ton k. Neonakh oti o polemos ginetai ek twn esw; Giati, sthn anakoinwsh toy, mila gia aspondoys filoys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw ejantlhsei tis apanthseis moy gi@ ayto to qema.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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